Major Websites Are Planning a 'Day of Action' To Block Repeal of Net Neutrality (medium.com) 88
An anonymous reader writes: Fight for the Future, a nonprofit advocacy group concerned with digital rights, has posted to medium today, revealing that many major websites, online communities, and internet users are planning a "day of action" focused on finding the final vote needed to pass the Congressional Review Act (CRA). "50 Senators have already come out in support of the CRA, which would completely overturn the FCC's December 14 decision and restore net neutrality protections," the post reads. "Several Senators have indicated that they are considering becoming the 51st vote we need to win, but they're under huge pressure from telecom lobbyists. Only a massive burst of energy from the internet will get them to move."
The day of action is scheduled for February 27, and participants include Tumblr, Etsy, Vimeo, Medium, Namecheap, Imgur, Sonos, and DuckDuckGo. "Internet users will be encouraged to sound the alarm on social media and sign up to receive alerts with their lawmaker's position on net neutrality and prompts to take action on the big day, while websites, subreddits, and online communities will display prominent alerts driving phone calls, emails, and tweets to Senators and Representatives calling on them to pass the CRA." The post notes that we're faced with an uphill battle as the fight will elevate to the House of Representatives if the CRA can pass the Senate. From there it will go to the President's desk.
The day of action is scheduled for February 27, and participants include Tumblr, Etsy, Vimeo, Medium, Namecheap, Imgur, Sonos, and DuckDuckGo. "Internet users will be encouraged to sound the alarm on social media and sign up to receive alerts with their lawmaker's position on net neutrality and prompts to take action on the big day, while websites, subreddits, and online communities will display prominent alerts driving phone calls, emails, and tweets to Senators and Representatives calling on them to pass the CRA." The post notes that we're faced with an uphill battle as the fight will elevate to the House of Representatives if the CRA can pass the Senate. From there it will go to the President's desk.
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Obama had no choice but to appoint Ajit Pai to the FCC. A Republican seat was open. The Republicans proposed Pai. Obama had to accept him.
If you want to blame anyone, blame Trump for elevating Pai to the chair.
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Yeah. I pay my ISP for my connection to "the Internet" and my traffic. They pay their ISP for their connection to "the Internet" and their traffic. That's how its 'supposed to work'.
Then some ISPs got the bright idea that even though I'm a their customer and am paying them to deliver packets to me from the servers of my choice; thay they could start a protection racket and charge the operator of the server extortion money not to 'disrupt' or 'slowdown' the packets.
ie... my ISP says to various service provid
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"The only argument you pro-NN people ever have is the netflix deal."
I didn't mention netflix.
There are plenty of good examples. Many ISPs are also landline providers, cellular phone providers, and/or in the cableTV business. Many also offer internetTV and/or voip services; or they form partnerships with various providers of those services. And then they have all kinds of incentives to ensure their own (or their partners) telephony and video services work best, including prioritizing them on the network, or
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Bingo. Nothing actually stops these companies from "using corporate policy" and promoting it as such, or listing it as a core value. They want these regulations, all of them for some reason. Which likely means there's something tasty and delicious that's feeding them and most people aren't seeing.
Kind of a waste of effort (Score:2, Interesting)
The thing is, NN is small potatoes to most people. It's gonna mean $10-$20 month out of their pockets for their cable bill, if that. 99% of Americans are never going to start an internet business to compete with established players.
Re: Kind of a waste of effort (Score:3)
You think the repeal of NN is unimportant to most because it will add $100 - $250 to their annual bills.
You think most people have less than $1k in the bank, I.e. the repeal of NN will be a significant chunk of money to them.
I don't know how to reconcile those two things?
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Yes, he thinks that most people won't care.
No, he doesn't think this. Unless he believes (as you seem to) that 40% is "most people"
Note that 60% not caring is "most people", but 40% not having $1k is NOT "most people"....
40% not having $1k _is_ most people (Score:3)
The people opposing NN (Score:2)
Meanwhile the folks yelling about NN are promising $10-$20 off your cable bill. Oh, I suppose they also said they'd knock a few points off your kid's student loans. Seriously, that's all I heard from the other side
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Promising people jobs from the '70s that aren't coming isn't populism, it's mendacious demagoguery, the latter is a subset of the former, they're not the same thing.
Re: Kind of a waste of effort (Score:3)
Care to support the notion ThatcHer Neutrality, as it is being discussed here today, will shave up to $20/month off my internet bi!l? It really seems like you pulled that number out of your backside.
Also, I'm a little confused how most people don't care about $20/month, or $240/yr, when 40% of Americans have less than $1K in savings? Please explain that seeming contradiction...
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"the current administration has ignored everything thrown at them with regards to net neutrality."
I agree that lobbying either the Trump administration or the FCC may be a waste of time. But isn't that why the effort is aimed at senators? You know, someone who could/might actually make a difference?
The question I have: even if you got a senator, wouldn't you still be facing an uphill battle in the House?
Huge pressure? (Score:3, Insightful)
"Several Senators have indicated that they are considering becoming the 51st vote we need to win, but they're under huge pressure from telecom lobbyists."
Jesus.
"We want to do what we know is the right thing, but we can't just say no to a pile of money for doing what we know is the wrong thing!"
This country is so fucked up.
I have to do this every time (Score:4, Insightful)
We don't have to "think" about the definition of net neutrality. We have had a perfectly good one for over a decade:
https://www.eff.org/issues/net... [eff.org]
So maybe you should tell us what you think it is.
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No, it was not.
https://www.freepress.net/blog... [freepress.net]
Re:I have to do this every time (Score:4, Informative)
You know what's missing from that exquisitely curated list?
A closing sentence at the end of each item that says (1) the situation was not resolved prior to Net Neutrality; and (2) it WAS resolved (and by the FCC, mind you) following the institution of Net Neutrality.
I can't imagine why they didn't fill in those details.
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Why are the idiots multiplying in droves?
Child Tax Credit.
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My reading list and I agree with you, it may not be the opposite but its much more complex than the simple representation of 'dont throttle', the set of rules implemented in 2015 to 2017 being repealed didn't break anything, and if it gets reworked in a way that doesn't negatively effect small groups/companies who want big pipes(amongst other problems with NN that are never talked about) like that set of rules was causing then it will work out better in the end.
And in case someone doesn't get it, I am for s
FAKE PAID POSTER (Score:2)
Hahahah shut the fuck up you paid shill. Jesus christ i can't believe i spent all my mod points before seeing your post.
Even fucking comcast of all places has *some* support of net neturality. Except for the parts they don't like, naturally.
It's obvious you're not a real person. Why the fuck are you guys posting on slashdot of all places though? This place is just a clubhouse for a few old nerds these days.
Waste of time, Sadly (Score:2)
Trump will veto any action to overturn Pai... and I don't think a 2/3rds majority to support such action is likely. Say goodbye to Net Neutrality until Trump is gone.
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Trump will veto any action to overturn Pai... and I don't think a 2/3rds majority to support such action is likely. Say goodbye to Net Neutrality until Trump is gone.
Na. Not a waste of time. It will reveal which senators and congress-critters oppose restoring NN. Ammo for the democrats in November. Dems aren't as stupid as one might desire to think. They know this is a game they can well, game.. for political gain in November.
I think it's pretty amusing what this administration is up to, it's like they're trying to piss off everyone, in every way possible. It's like they want to be shamed and ridiculed endlessly. The levels of stupid out of this administration ar
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Major Websites Plan Day of Irrelevance (Score:1)
Yawn.
Nobody cares. Turn your stupid website off. We'll go play video games. You're not that important.
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Uh, dummy, here's what Net Neutrality means to people who "play video games".
https://www.pcgamer.com/how-ne... [pcgamer.com]
Moral Victory!! Agony of Defeat... (Score:1)
Even if the 51st vote is found, then it heads to the House where it will most likely die. If by some miracle the house passes it, it will go to President Trump and he will surely veto it.
So I guess everyone involved can feel good they did something, but I can't see how this will change the decision on NN.
If it's so important, pass a law (Score:2)
They're perfectly willing to showboat for something pushed out by the last president, but unwilling to make it the law of the land in the normal "write a bill, pass it by both house and senate, and get the president to sign it".
If they did that, what the FCC chairperson of the week says does not matter. They would have to implement the law.
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That was my point a couple of weeks ago, and got modded into oblivion.
We should *want* this to happen, instead of living on proclamations from on high to make things happen. The fallacy of relying on government by decree has never been more clear. If you can't actually convince your representatives to sign on, then you have some recourse. Decrees can be anything the guys making it wants, whether its what you want or not.
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Because these people don't believe in laws. Just like Hillary, Obama, Comey, McCabe etc etc etc. They are above the law. You will obey them or else.
I thought we already had one. (Score:1)
Reddit was covered in net neutrality spam for days, and people have already forgotten about it. People don't remember the SOPA protests either, which was only effective because of Wikipedia, which is now too embroiled by admin abuse to be effective.
Those are "major web sites"? (Score:3, Informative)
Tumblr, Etsy, Vimeo, Medium, Namecheap, Imgur, Sonos, and DuckDuckGo
Those are not "major web sites". This is a list of major web sites. [wikipedia.org] Only one of those is even on the list, and it clocks in at #47.
I'd wager the average dude on the street hasn't heard of a single one of those sites.
Now if you can get Google, Facebook, or Youtube to join, then maybe somebody will notice. You know, the kind of sites you can mention to a random stranger on the street and they know what you're talking about.
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For those dying to know, it looks like imgur is #47 on the alexa ranking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/ind... [wikipedia.org]
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Of course... the companies in the top 40 can easily afford whatever additional fees the telcos will want from them. Hell... they might even appreciate the additional barrier of entry for new potential competitors.
Major Dicks (Score:2, Funny)
Stop playing with yourselves. You ain't gonna do shit.
The NN monopolies (Score:2)
All the federal NN rules did was further protect a few part political connected monopoly telcos and their POTS networks.
Let the innovative private sector move in and create some really great new networks all over the USA.
With no competition and protective federal NN rules nothing is upgraded by the few NN network monopoly telcos.
Someday a wealthy walled community, city, town can build its own n
Another one of these. (Score:2)
Are we also supposed to turn our lights off, and not buy gasoline (or anything else) for the day as well?
Because THAT'LL accomplish SOMETHING! I'm SURE of it!
Ow. Need to head to an opthalmologist. I just strained a bunch of things from rolling my eyes so hard...
The beauty of arguing for no regulation (Score:2)
Simple : Throttle Down their Connection (Score:1)
Their should be no problem to target some of the many people who supported the repeal.
Starting with Pai himself.
Then, if not the ISPs, the GAFA, Tweeter, Facebook, etc, could throttle down their services to show them what "no Net Neutrality" really means. Ideally inserting forms asking for money to get higher grade services.
What about Cloudflare ? They said they were looking for all possible legal action to throttle Pai's Internet ?
Re: Simple : Throttle Down their Connection (Score:3)
Yea! Drag Ajit Pai's internet connection all the way back to those horrible early-2015 days - that'll show him!
Problem is, the internet in the US wasn't horrible before NN rules (not laws) went into effect in 2015, and for 99.9% of Americans the passage of NN rules (not laws) had zero impact on their life/on-line Internet experience.
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Can we recreate all these problems for Ajit?
https://www.freepress.net/blog... [freepress.net]
Finding the vote! (Score:2)
These internet 'school's are always so effective.. (Score:2)
#BringBackOurGirls, for example.
The average American has no idea what Net Neutrality is, and a bunch of D-list websites organizing a 'day of action' that likely won't be reported on the evening news will have close to no impact, and will likely not result in 'flipping' that covered 51st senator, and I can't even begin to imagine the uphill battle this group will face in the House.
BTW, having 51 senators supporting a bill doesn't guarantee it will be brought up for a vote in the senate.
Is NN worth it? Break the monopolies instead! (Score:1)
I'm still not convinced net neutrality is good for the consumer. When you see almost every major corporation spending so much energy defending it, it should make you suspicious. Is having a big bureaucracy going to help things? I would argue the lack of regulation is what made the internet develop so well compared to the telecoms.
What if I want to buy a service that prioritizes time sensitive traffic like SIP? Not all traffic is the same. Streaming video can easily handle a high degree of jitter. My phone c
I was half excited until I saw the list... (Score:2)
...of participants. If any one of the following participated, it would have an immediate impact:
* Google
* Amazon
* Youtube
* Facebook
* Twitter
* The major porn sites/networks.
* Maybe Ebay and/or PayPal.
Without any of those players, this effort will be forgotten after half a news cycle.
BTW - DuckDuckGo participating is the one search engine that won't make a dent. People that are aware enough of internet-related issues to use DuckDuckGo have likely already written entire treatises about the evils of net n