Intel, Microsoft, Dell, HP and Lenovo Expect PCs With Fast 5G Wireless To Ship Next Year (pcworld.com) 59
Intel, along with Dell, HP, Lenovo, and Microsoft said Thursday that the companies expect the first 5G Windows PCs to become available during the second half of 2019. From a report: That's about the same time that Intel plans to begin shipping its XMM 8000 commercial modems, marking the company's entrance into the 5G market. Intel will show off a prototype of the new 5G connected PC at Mobile World Congress show in Barcelona. In addition the company will demonstrate data streaming over the 5G network. At its stand, Intel said that it will also show off eSIM technology -- the replacement for actual, physical SIM cards -- and a thin PC running 802.11ax Wi-Fi, the next-gen Wi-Fi standard.
Intel ME integration (Score:3, Insightful)
Obviously this will be directly connected to the Intel Management Engine just like current Intel wired network cards so it can do whatever it wants without any OS control?
Re: i love meltdown and spectre (Score:2)
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Hi!
We know you're trying to be helpful but can you please stop doing it?
I hear AMD have some vacancies for PR shills at the moment. Why not contact them? I even asked on your behalf and they said they'd match your current Intel rate.
Thanks for everything you've done, but I think it's time we parted company.
Debbie
Intel PR
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Yeah. On the plus side, they'll probably make a deal with the telecoms so their telemetry collection doesn't count against your data cap.
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Obviously this will be directly connected to the Intel Management Engine just like current Intel wired network cards so it can do whatever it wants without any OS control?
Let's hope so.
Imagine if you laptop was stolen and you could turn it on via an encrypted SMS and then have it ping its lat / long back to you.
Or imagine if you could remotely brick it or wipe the thief's drive.
Imagine as a remote IT tech being able interact wirelessly and directly with a PC, even if it's at a blue screen.
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Imagine the powers that be detecting that you're working on something that they don't like and bricking your computer or even making it use the highly volatile and explosive battery :)
Or even a nefarious third party using the awesome Intel(r) Security(r) of AMT that you so highly regard (CVE-2017-5689 9.8/10 - allows logging in as admin to every AMT interface with just a blank password). And don't tell me that a multi-billion corporation didn't test for this in a security-focused product... they knew.
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How about imagine if the company that supplies the operating system, can now access your computer at any time, in fact not possibility of disconnecting to freely access all your data, install any software it wants to, delete anything it wants to and bricks your machine at a whim, ohhh yeah, M$ with 5G on a PC, just bend me over that desk and fuck me harder, it feels so good. FUCK OFF.
SubjectIsSubject (Score:5, Funny)
Wow. Didn't see that coming.
Wi-Fi huh (Score:1)
The same Wi-Fi that's easily blocked by a single piece of drywall?
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Probably not [itu.int]
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Now it won't even be able to have a PC offline in order to have airgap security.
Of course it will. Just don't put in your credit card number when the cellular carrier asks for it to bill you for the first month of service.
Shrug. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Shrug. (Score:5, Insightful)
The PC makers are just discovering that they're not really selling hardware to users, they're actually selling data consumption to cellular providers.
1GB can cost 15K-20K with some roaming plans (Score:2)
1GB can cost 15K-20K with some roaming plans
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Can your profit-ear me now? (Score:2)
At its stand, Intel said that it will also show off eSIM technology -- the replacement for actual, physical SIM cards
They have a secret "use case" test:
[ ] Unauthorized thief can replace the eSIM as easily as a physical sim to get the stolen phone back onto a cellular provider network, who profiteers off this misery by getting a new customer funded by the victim and giving the victim the honor of having to pay them an outrageous price for a new phone because they have to keep paying the network contract including the stolen old phone anyway.
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When will they be shipping non-backdoored CPUs?
Maybe instead of that they'll extend their backdooring practices to their new eSIM technology. Although there's probably no need - the concept sounds like a hacker's wet dream even without any of Intel's hubris-driven on-purpose security holes.
Re: Intel (Score:1)
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I remember those days. At the time, Sprint would not let any machines off their network, nor allow anything on their network that wasn't sold with a their label, saying it was done to ensure device quality. Nothing like waiting on hold for 30-45 minutes for something that I could on a GSM network in seconds.
Heck with eSIMs. Not interested in going back to the Dark Ages.
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5G? Try again. (Score:2, Informative)
Yeah, REAL 5G isn't going to be out that soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhECDSuXRDs
The 5G shit they are releasing next year is just LTE Advanced Pro being sold as "5G". Just like the scams cellular carriers were pulling with calling later generations of HSPA "4G". Real 5G won't be hitting the mass market till around the 2020's
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allowance (Score:4, Insightful)
Use your allowance in 5 microseconds. Zero to $5000 bill in half a minute.
That's what I'm expecting to be the next generation of mobile Internet. I mean, they still brag about "loads of data" next to 500 MB/month allowance, and still have 100 MB/month of data "as standard" everywhere. I don't remember if they also advertise 4G next to those allowances, but it's not impossible.
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How much does it cost for someone holding only citizenship outside the European Union, such as in the United States, to learn Finnish and take other steps to qualify for a Finnish work visa?
8 hour day is dead (Score:2)
On call 24/7.
Cafe owners breathe a sigh of relief as "free wifi" no longer a drawcard for telecommuting zombies.
But the devil is in the data plan. The definirion of 'unlimited' will be subject to fair use.
Re: 8 hour day is dead (Score:1)
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It seems a peculiarly American/Starbucks phenomenon where mooching on free wifi for hours at a time is regarded as a basic human right. The rest of the world happily tether to their phone's data connection.
Fake 5G (Score:4, Informative)
This, like Qualcomm's version is Fake 5G. 5G hasn't been locked down yet. It hasn't even been submitted to IMT yet.
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No thanks (Score:5, Insightful)
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Oh sorry, you were talking about MS Windows...
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Registry rigmarole for Ethernet media cost (Score:2)
you actually can set an internet connection as 'metered' in Windows 10 so that it doesn't go crazy with updates and the like.
I thought the GUI to set media cost in Windows 10 worked only for WLAN connections, not wired Ethernet, and setting the media cost of wired Ethernet (such as with a satellite or cellular upstream) still required poking around in the registry [windowscentral.com]. Has this changed?
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The Lenovo ThinkPad X61 laptop into which I am typing this comment has an 8-pin Ethernet jack. Would these laptops lack one?
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Windows by default enables metered connections on cellular. Windows Update doesn't run, software in the Windows Store software doesn't update or download, and other restrictions on data apply to the PC.
This is a non-issue. In fact the only thing really still missing is the fact that you can set this setting for WiFi but NOT for bluetooth connections. Guess which one is more likely to be used with mobile phone tethering...
as long eSIM can't not be carrier locked (Score:2)
as long eSIM can't not be carrier locked
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Thankfully you're a minority and people that do actual complicated workloads require actual processing power.
Have fun barely being able to run open a web page without stutter. (good sites that is, not shit sites with high overhead libraries everywhere like Google, Facebook and even here)
Even Laptop babbies laugh at you.
Great... (Score:1)
Its not enough that Intel ME could upload all PC data even when your PC is turned off as long as a network cable was plugged in and it had power. Now if your PC is anywhere close to a cell tower, open network, or plugged in to network, Intel owns it completely. Next they will ship "smart" TVs with 5g always connected. They are already trying this with cars. This is part of a greater corporate move to make consumers rent and never own their own devices. In times past when a consumer wanted to resist this mov
Ax? Where's ad? (Score:2)
6G? (Score:2)
I may even wait for 7G. That will be the shizzle . . .
Wait a minute, they expect to sell ??? (Score:2)
>> Intel, Microsoft, Dell, HP and Lenovo Expect PCs ... To Ship Next Year
Wait a minute, they expect to sell PCs next year ???
PCs are a declining business.