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Facebook's Privacy Fixes Have Broken Tinder (theverge.com) 73

Posted by BeauHD from the stuck-in-purgatory dept.
Since the recent Cambridge Analytica data privacy scandal, Facebook has been rolling out more security and data privacy updates. "Today, however, the company announced sweeping changes to many of its most prominent APIs, restricting develop access in a number of crucial ways," reports The Verge. "Soon after, Tinder users started noting on Twitter that they had been kicked off the dating app and couldn't log back on, as those who used Facebook Login were caught in an infinite loop that appears to be related to an unknown bug." From the report: The app has been bringing up an error message to booted users, titled Facebook Permissions, stating that users need to provide more Facebook permissions in order to create or use a Tinder account. If users tap "Ask me," which is the only given option, the app requests they log into Facebook once more and the loop starts again. Roderick Hsiao, a senior software engineer at Tinder, tweeted that users could still access the service through its web browser while engineers worked on fixing the mobile client.
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  • Comment removed (Score:5, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @04:52PM (#56383497)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  • Grindr (Score:5, Funny)

    by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @04:53PM (#56383513) Homepage Journal
    Grindr still works fine.

  • Good (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Maybe, just maybe, when it stops them from banging, people start to realize, that they double-sold their soul to facebook after starting to use facebook sign-on in 3rd party apps...

  • LOL ... Jesus, really (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:13PM (#56383639)

    Holy fuck, you use Facebook ... as your login to Tinder ... and when that breaks, you turn to Twitter to bitch about it?

    Why the fuck you would use your Facebook as a login for every other site is beyond me. Sure, it's convenient, but at that point you've decided Facebook should be integrated into every aspect of your life.

    Fuck, there's no hope for humanity. This social media shit has created a world full of fucking morons.

    You idiots deserve what you get.

    • Re:LOL ... Jesus, really (Score:5, Informative)

      by b0s0z0ku ( 752509 ) on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:17PM (#56383653)
      I think Tinder actually REQUIRES Fecebook and pulls photos, etc from your profile.

      • Re:LOL ... Jesus, really (Score:4, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @06:02PM (#56383875)

        I think Tinder actually REQUIRES Fecebook and pulls photos, etc from your profile.

        LOL ... oh my fucking god, its the goddamned fucking social media apocalypse.

        I'm glad I'm too old and grumpy to give a fuck about any of this social media crap, because that level of stupid is beyond my comprehension.

        So the whole world has lost their collective fucking minds, and bought into the notion that Facebook should be central to your fucking lives? And you fucking morons are OK with this???

        Holy fuck, but humans are fucking stupid.

        • You are aware that Slashdot is a social media site? It's not the share-your-life kind of social media but its heavy emphasis on discussion does make it social media.

          Of course the rest of your point still stands. Non-pseudonymous social media are inherently dangerous and Facebook is about as trustworthy as a guy waving around a burning torch inside a fireworks factory.

      • Wait until Tinder and OKC realize that FOSTA makes them criminally-liable if anyone sets their age to like 20 but is really 14, or is a prostitute being pushed by a pimp.

        Wait until Facebook realizes it, too, is liable.

    • Why do you think its called FecesBook by people who don't use it?

      * People post their crap that no one gives a fuck about,
      * Only shit-for-brains people use it

      --
      FaceBook Censorship: "facebook purity" will be blocked but reversing it works: purity facebook. WTF!? *facepalm*
      Source: https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... [slashdot.org]

    • I understand a senior manager where I work asked why she could not use her Facebook logon to access the corporate network.
      I was not involved in the conversation, but I the realities of security were explained to her quite forcefully.
      I am not confident she got the message however, as she works in HR so it probably went right over her head.

  • Who trusts FB as an authentication provider? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by ctilsie242 ( 4841247 ) on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:16PM (#56383647)

    I know this is dumb, but why are sites trusting FB to do their gatekeeping for them? FB doesn't have any certifications or compliance. They do not sell themselves as this, but other companies use them for this purpose. We don't even know if FB does password hashing.

    • Re:Who trusts FB as an authentication provider? (Score:4, Informative)

      by b0s0z0ku ( 752509 ) on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:18PM (#56383665)
      Tinder doesn't just use FB as a login -- it was (at least originally) an overlay over FB that used your profile info (i.e. photos, etc) to generate a profile.
    • I have no idea. There have been a number of websites and services that I've actually just ignored or found alternatives to over the years because they all hump facebook's leg by using facebook login as their only form of user registration.
      I remember when facebook was young, and all my friends and family where signing up, and I actually visited the "Make an account" page, and had this weird unsettling sinking feeling, said to myself "I do not want or need this bullshit." and closed the page, and never loo

      • Ah yes; but at this point it doesn't matter if you made a profile yourself. While the 'shadow profile' thing gets trotted out frequently, there's a reason for that.

        What would you wager the odds are of FB being able to identify you by browser signature/IP etc; and tying that to your shadow profile?

        So basically you're getting the same dose of privacy rape as everyone who uses FB directly; but with none of the (questionable?) benefits of using the site.

        • I should totally make shadow profiles illegal, specifically. If you have a sign-up service and a person doesn't sign up, you can't aggregate data about them to an identity and act on it (transfer, sell, aggregate) except to allow said person to initiate a contact in which they would like to see what data you are able to collect about them from data they are allowed to collect and retain about people who have signed up.

          Yes that's a weird exception. If I have a bunch of stuff about you spread out and I ju

        • True, and with no way to check if facebook has a shadow profile for you, its impossible to tell what they do and don't have. From what I can tell, beyond keeping a mild lookout for people taking pictures at parties and trying to stay out of frame, (to avoid being tagged in their pictures) there is not much you can do to minimize or prevent the existence of a shadow profile. I suppose if you're lucky, and never gotten a picture of you tagged, you can keep your actual image out of the data they have on you. S

    • Convenience... it gets you out of the tedium of asking users for names, DOB and photos and things, and having to build photo uploading tools, and requiring the user to actually find photos that they may not have available on the device their currently using... Or you can use Facebook login and just drag all that from their site. It's a huge timesaver for the dev and the user, if you are willing to lean on Facebook. I mean yeah it's not a great idea to be reliant on a 3rd party, but then Tinder was one of th

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

      Facebook does sell themselves as a single sign on provider. Here's a photo of 2010 Zucks announcing the mobile version:

      https://www.cnet.com/news/face... [cnet.com]

      How good a job do they do? Probably a pretty good one. Their profitability is directly tied to getting, having, and keeping loads of data. Probably better than the random companies who would otherwise roll their own. Do they keep track of where you've signed on using the service? Of course.

  • Comment removed based on user account deletion

    • Hello software programmers; its called regression testing.

      Have you ever heard the expression:

      "The world is my oyster!"

      Facebook says:

      "The world is my regression test!"

    • In this case, it doesn't seem like a case of not testing. It seems more like a case of not caring what happens to downstream APIs. Facebook changed the API ... I bet all their own stuff kept working. The third parties are the ones scrambling to deal with the API change.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Desler ( 1608317 )

      I think it's ususlly taught in CompSci 101.

      Well there’s your problem. It’s not.

    • Hello software programmers; its called regression testing. You do it after making major changes to check if you have broken anything. I think it's ususlly taught in CompSci 101.

      Um... I doubt that Facebook were going to test 3rd party sites when they're changing their API, they've got more important self-interest things to worry about now. And Tinder devs were caught out because the API changed.

      Reminds me of when Windows locked down admin privileges and a bunch of programs broke. Probably they shouldn't have been operating like that in the first place... but that's difficult to know when it was working fine...

    • Hello software programmers; its called regression testing. You do it after making major changes to check if you have broken anything. I think it's ususlly [sic] taught in CompSci 101.

      Are you talking about FB or Tinder programmers? It sounds like you are talking about FB but I hope you at least are talking about Tinder instead.

  • Dates with Palmela Handerson on the agenda.
  • I've had this conversation with multiple people in academic/research contexts. We want single sign-on, and we want to reduce the proliferation of accounts that people need, and the suggestion keeps coming up that we use Facebook as authentication for various systems. Now, for the things we're talking about, security is probably not the biggest concern (low-value, low visibility target with access to niche data that most attackers wouldn't know what to do with). But Facebook has no guarantee of a stable API,

  • Maybe Tinder shouldn't base their entire business model on the good graces of Facebook.

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