RIP Tata Nano, the World's Cheapest Car (cnet.com) 84
From a report: Well, you guys, pour one out for the Tata Nano. The world's cheapest car is all but dead. According to Bloomberg, Tata Motors built one single Nano in June 2018. During the same month in 2017, Tata produced 275. As a final nail in the coffin, Tata told Bloomberg the car "cannot continue beyond 2019." The Tata Nano entered the Indian market in 2008 priced from just 100,000 rupees, or about $1,500. The price increased over time, and according to Tata Motors' website, an entry-level Nano starts at 236,447 rupees today, or $3,435 based on current exchange rates. Right from the get-go, the Nano was plagued with production issues, not to mention poor safety and dismal crash test results. The cars were also known to catch fire, which, uh, isn't good.
Poor Safety and Dismal Crash Test Results (Score:3)
You don't get the cheapest anything without cutting corners.
Re:Poor Safety and Dismal Crash Test Results (Score:4, Funny)
iPhones prove that cutting corners might not help with the cost anyway.
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Jony Ive: iPhone corners are not cut. Rather, they are carefully extruded, given form and substance precisely, almost miraculously, ensuring that every iPhone's fit and finish is of the calibre that our users expect from Apple.
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Cutting corners with big words doesn't really change the net result. Well, ok, it changes the price tag, but aside of that...
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Cutting corners is low-cost. Make them rounded is a lot more expensive.
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More to the point things are expensive for a reason.
When you sell a product to the wider market, even for cheap you need to have a particular quality standard. And the cost to run a business is more then the cost of the parts.
Quality/price often falls on an exponential scale. Such as the difference between a Timex watch and a Rolex watch.
I can write a program to solve a problem I have in a matter of minutes. But I wouldn’t be able to sell the program or would have any interest in the open source ma
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Technically you're right, but you have to see what the market they aimed for was. They targeted that thing at families where the whole family was before that sitting on a motor scooter made for a single rider. Compared to that, it had glowing crash test results.
Dying with a 50% chance is superior to dying with a 99% chance...
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The VW Golf has like 6 or 7 different generations to it. A Mark-I Golf (mid 1980s) is very different from a Mark-3 Golf (mid-to-late 1990s); and the Mark-V Golf is very different again - in practically every way except the general shape. But I'm guessing you already know that.
Easy to scoff, harder to respect (Score:5, Interesting)
It takes some mental effort to respect that fact that Tata brought car-based mobility to a new generation of people that otherwise couldn't afford the level of vehicles we enjoy in more developed nations today... it wasn't too long ago (~50 years) that we were driving cars worse in quality and safety than the Nano... and they cost a pretty penny even for first world nations at the time...so why begrudge and scoff at another developing nation's progress on the same path we also walked (albeit earlier)?
Re:Easy to scoff, harder to respect (Score:5, Insightful)
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Tata was eventually pressured into shutting down the Nano before it evolves into a cheap AND safe ride a few years down the road. That would have cost dozens of other bigger car makers hundreds of thousands or eventually millions of car sales every year.
That wasn't the big concern. The concern was that there would be millions and millions of more cars on the roads in India, leading to ever worse congestion and even worse pollution. When you talk about congestion and pollution, India knows levels of those that you probably can't even imagine.
No conspiracy theories required.
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How could a big company like Tata be pressured into shutting down its product to suit its rivals? That makes no sense at all.
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...Tata brought car-based mobility to a new generation of people that
Corpses don't count.
Not Really (Score:2)
> It takes some mental effort to respect that fact that Tata brought car-based mobility to a new generation of people that otherwise couldn't afford the level of vehicles we enjoy in more developed nations today.
Not really. The car was a flop from almost the beginning.
People preferred to buy a better 2nd hand car which was at the same price as the Nano.
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It would have brought India's roads to a total standstill. Haven't they learnt from the West the peril in building your transport around cars?
RIP Tata Nano (Score:1)
Better that than RIP all those future Tata Nano drivers...
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Was it really more dangerous than a motor-scooter though? Because that seemed to be it's what it was positioned to compete against. A scooter with weather protection and quad-wheel stability seems like a big step up to me.
So Big Industry Shut A Small, Cheap Car Down? (Score:3, Interesting)
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Re: So Big Industry Shut A Small, Cheap Car Down? (Score:3, Informative)
Tata IS big industry.
They own Jaguar, Land Rover, they run an airline, have retail stores, make trains.
They have over 100 subsidiary companies.
Their revenue last year was over $100 billion USD.
That's more revenue than Boeing, about a third less than Ford or GM
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Chevy Bolt production is at 576 per week. Model 3 production is at 5000 per week.
The #1 selling Sedan in the US in Q1 was the (far cheaper) Toyota Camry, at just over 18k vehicles sold per month. Depending on the US/Canada Mix, Model 3 could actually end up being the highest selling sedan of any powertrain and any price bracket in the US. And this ignores the huge numbers of vehicles (over 11k if I remember right) that are in transit, stockpiled in June. Even if there's some downtime (there was a small o
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2 of Them (Score:4, Funny)
I got two Tata Nanos so I could have my own pair of tatas.
Tata Nanooooo (Score:2, Funny)
Can you name the car with no wheel drive,
smells like a cow and seats three-point-five.
Tata Nano! Tata Nano!
Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down,
It's the country-fried truck endorsed by clowns!
Tata Nano! (Yah!) Tata Nano!
[CPI(M)] : Hey Hey
2 meters long, half a lane wide,
65 kilos of Indian Pride!
Tata Nano! Tata Nano!
Impossible to export,
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!
Tata Nano! Tata Nano! (Yah!)
The driver is blind 'cause of her super weak beams,
She's a squirrel powered, deer sized, dri
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Mooo, says the Tata Nano-proof cow, you are all sacred invincible cows. Mooooo! Mooo!
The clue was in the name all along (Score:2)
RIP Tata Nano, the World's Cheapest Car
Or in other words: tata [wiktionary.org], Tata.
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LOL. By "whistleblower", you mean the sabateur who tried to frame his coworkers, had dozens of behavioral complaints against him, and threatened to shoot up the Gigafactory. But now he's pretending that none of that ever happened. No, no, he's Good Mr. Public Interest now! Couldn't have saboutaged anything - why, he doesn't even know how to program! Except, well, he does [twitter.com], and when that was pointed out to him, he tried to hide his Stack Overflow, Adafruit and Scribd accounts. On, and for bonus points, can a
Re: RIP Tesla (Score:2)
Stop shorting Tesla stock Timmy, and get upstairs, the dinner is served.
vs. motorcycle? (Score:2)
Prices sound comparable to a motorcycle. I wonder how safety compares. You'd climb into the Nano wearing shorts and nothing on your head. You wear ATGATT on a motorcycle if you've got sense. ie, the Nano might lull you into a sense of complacency with what looks like a safety cage but really isn't.
It seems like a moot point anyway. If you want cheap (or can only afford cheap) transportation there and are willing to cut corners on safety, don't most Indians opt for a scooter anyway? And they ride witho
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You wear ATGATT on a motorcycle if you've got sense.
You've never even seen pictures of India have you...
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I literally wrote "they ride without helmets". If anything, I expected people to blast me for implying that Indians don't have sense. And the truth of the matter? It is indeed a nightmare but there are more people wearing helmets than I expected [youtube.com]
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They bought Land Rover and Jaguar. They are doomed. Perhaps if they amputate the limb attached to british cars manufacturing the contagion can be stopped. But I doubt it.
Hey, hey, we're Adobe! (Score:2)
Hey, hey, we're Adobe! The little car that's made out of clay
ta-ta Nano (Score:2)
Nano was the car which brought down Tata Motors (Score:5, Informative)
Tata Motor was the #2 car company in India after Maruti Suzuki before they introduced the Nano. Nano was their CEO Ratan Tata's pet project. Ratan Tata assumed the car would sell on it's own without much marketing & advertising expenditure. But the car didn't. People preferred to buy a 2nd hand car which cost the same as a new Nano but was a much better car. Ergo, the Nano was a flop. But because it was the CEO's pet project, the company wouldn't let it go, they spent a lot of money & effort over years to make sure the car doesn't die. Tata Motors went to losses because of the time, effort & money they spent on the car. They lost their position in the market. It was only after Ratan Tata resigned & a new CEO took over that the company was turned around again. And now they have at last stopped production of the car - something which should have been done 5-6 years back.
fire = good (Score:2)
world's cheapest car (Score:2)
There will always be a world's cheapest car, as long as there are cars.
Ob (Score:2)
That depends. Is there a widow [wikipedia.org] in it?
Nooooooooo! (Score:2)
Save the Tatas!