Google Employees Discussed Tweaking Search Results To Counter Trump's Travel Ban (wsj.com) 211
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Wall Street Journal: Days after the Trump administration instituted a controversial travel ban in January 2017, Google employees discussed how they could tweak the company's search-related functions (Warning: source may be paywalled; alternative source) to show users how to contribute to pro-immigration organizations and contact lawmakers and government agencies, according to internal company emails. The email traffic, reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, shows that employees proposed ways to "leverage" search functions and take steps to counter what they considered to be "islamophobic, algorithmically biased results from search terms 'Islam', 'Muslim', 'Iran', etc." and "prejudiced, algorithmically biased search results from search terms `Mexico', `Hispanic', `Latino', etc." The email chain, while sprinkled with cautionary notes about engaging in political activity, suggests employees considered ways to harness the company's vast influence on the internet in response to the travel ban. Google said none of the ideas discussed were implemented. "These emails were just a brainstorm of ideas, none of which were ever implemented," a company spokeswoman said in a statement. "Google has never manipulated its search results or modified any of its products to promote a particular political ideology -- not in the current campaign season, not during the 2016 election, and not in the aftermath of President Trump's executive order on immigration. Our processes and policies would not have allowed for any manipulation of search results to promote political ideologies."
Manipulation (Score:5, Insightful)
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I’m sure they’ll be tweaking results this upcoming election.
Pretty much a given. Facebook opened a war room to deal with "Election Interference" (Yeah other than their own), Google has also been on that bandwagon, and has long been putting it's thumb on the scales with Youtube.
What's really funny though is you manage to torque some twit who thinks people won't be able to figure this out if they don't see your post.
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Re: Manipulation (Score:5, Insightful)
So much truth in one statement. More people voted against Hilary than voted for Trump. I believe if they had run anyone other than Hilary it would have been a slam dunk for them.
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Why though?
Because she was a crook? But Trump is much worse, he has a track record of scamming and illegal discrimination.
Because they didn't think she was qualified? Trump has proven his financial incompetence.
Because they didn't like her? Hell of a thing to elect that buffoon just because of you don't like her personality.
There is no point trying to rationalize it.
Re: Manipulation (Score:4, Insightful)
Why though?
Because she was a crook?
Yes, she was, is, and forever will be a crook.
But Trump is much worse, he has a track record of scamming and illegal discrimination.
Well enough people in the flyover states totally disagreed with you. Sorry.
Because they didn't think she was qualified?
Yes
Trump has proven his financial incompetence.
Hmm, apparently you haven't noticed the record low black unemployment numbers, the record low hispanic unemployment numbers, the record highs in the stock market. I'm sorry, but you are the one who is incompetent if you cannot look at those results and see how spectacular they are.
Because they didn't like her?
No they did not like her.
Hell of a thing to elect that buffoon just because of you don't like her personality.
Is the pot calling the kettle black here? Perhaps it's you who doesn't like Trump's personality.
There is no point trying to rationalize it.
Then don't because you are not very good at it anyway.
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"Our processes and policies" (Score:4, Funny)
LOL.
Anyone who's ever had a job with a BigCo and isn't terminally naive knows this is a steaming crock of delusion.
Non-story (Score:3, Insightful)
So let me try to summarize this:
Somebody at Google said "hey, we could abuse our power for good!" and management came back saying "it's still abuse, so we're not doing it", and that was the end of it.
Folks did their jobs, nothing bad happened, and everything worked as it should. It's nice to have a story that isn't sky-is-falling panic, but there's literally nothing newsworthy to report here.
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there's literally nothing newsworthy to report here.
If only I had mod point! +1
Re: Non-story (Score:2, Insightful)
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Because their bosses said "LOL No" to their suggestion. Like, it's almost as meaningful if you emailed them a suggestion to do it.
I mean, it sounds like they're pretty low level employees from the story, but then again there are almost no details.
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Clinton also said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". On record.
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Were there any evidence Google actually was doing this, I would agree that the denials fell pretty flat. But that's not what happened. The WSJ got copies of some low level employees saying "wouldn't it be cool if..." to each other, before their managers told them to stop fucking around at get back to work.
According to the same standard of evidence, almost every franchise of almost every fast food restaurant, hell, every retail store, also has a weed-dispensing vending machine in the lobby.
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An employee suggests
Key word: suggests.
Hold you hat because I'm going to drop a bomb. There are some among the 70,000 Google employees that don't like Trump. Also, some of them talk about it.
Re: Non-story (Score:1)
Any Googledouche found supporting Trump would be fired on the spot, amiright? Diversity of opinion is dangerous and must be stamped out quickly.
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if only I was in the same room as you, it would be ass kicking and swirly time for you
Big talk for an anonymous post.
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P.S. you may want to wear a Kevlar vest.
Re:Non-story (Score:5, Informative)
Somebody at Google said "hey, we could abuse our power for good!" and management came back saying "it's still abuse, so we're not doing it", and that was the end of it.
Now that's funny.
This would be the same Google that plans to closely track users of it's search services for the Chinese government and silenced people talking about it ?
https://tech.slashdot.org/stor... [slashdot.org]
Really it's still on the damn front page as I type this.
Re:Non-story (Score:5, Insightful)
This would be the same Google that plans to closely track users of it's search services for the Chinese government and silenced people talking about it ?
It's also the same Google that used their platform to drive [slashdot.org] Latino votes during the election, in the hopes of upending Trump. But the Slashdot gatekeepers didn't want to tell you that story. They pulled that from the stories you could vote on within hours of my submitting it.
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This would be the same Google that plans to closely track users of it's search services for the Chinese government and silenced people talking about it ?
It's also the same Google that used their platform to drive [slashdot.org] Latino votes during the election, in the hopes of upending Trump. But the Slashdot gatekeepers didn't want to tell you that story. They pulled that from the stories you could vote on within hours of my submitting it.
And the same Google that altered your search when you looked for "crooked hillary" last election. I remember reading that and then trying it, and sure enough it seemed dumbfounded by what was an extremely common phrase at the time. You could even throw any other politicians name in there and it didn't have a problem.
Sorry, but I am absolutely convinced Google is already tweaking search results and I don't believe them for a second when they pretend they won't do it again.
Really Non-story (Score:1)
Your link [slashdot.org] links to your submission which links to Breitbart [breitbart.com]. The very first line that you wrote was
Here's a story you'll never see on the front page of Slashdot
You already knew that it would not be accepted because Breitbart is not news. Breitbart is propoganda - the word that we used before alternative facts.
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You already knew that it would not be accepted because Breitbart is not news. Breitbart is propoganda - the word that we used before alternative facts.
Breitbart is news. If it isn't, then point out what that story got factually wrong. There's no such thing as non-propaganda outlets any more, if there ever was. They all have a bias and an agenda. They report on some stories and not others. They leave out some facts and not others. And sometimes they just outright make shit up [newsbusters.org].
Remember how all those "trusted" media outlets kept on insisting that censorship of the right on social media was a "conspiracy theory" [nbcnews.com]?
Except it wasn't -- Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey adm [slashdot.org]
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The memo you link to doesn't support your conclusion.
Google tried to get Spanish speakers out to vote with Spanish language tools. No admission it was too help Clinton, in fact the memo is careful to remind readers that Google made efforts to be non-partisan with the information it provided.
Trying to get more people to vote probably did help Clinton, because most people who don't vote (because of apathy or suppression or lack of information) are Democrat voters, but that's democracy for you. You can't serio
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The memo you link to doesn't support your conclusion.
It wasn't "a memo". It was an email chain.
Google tried to get Spanish speakers out to vote with Spanish language tools.
Huh, and do you think it may be the case that the majority of Spanish voters almost always vote Democrat? And that it was expected, given Trump's rhetoric, that they'd be even more inclined to vote Democrat?
No admission it was too help Clinton, in fact the memo is careful to remind readers that Google made efforts to be non-partisan with the information it provided.
They tried the fig leaf of "non-partisan", but the main person behind this effort kept dropping the mask. Just couldn't help herself.
First, note the keen interest in "key states":
"A large percentage of Latino voters in Florida were new voters who had become citiz
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So basically you think that trying to get people who might vote democrat to vote is a bad thing and in the interests of democracy fewer people should actually participate.
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I destroyed your lie, and now you come back with this weak strawman. Low effort.
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and in the interests of democracy fewer people should actually participate.
also you in this thread:
in fact the memo is careful to remind readers that Google made efforts to be non-partisan with the information it provided.
If you try to get specific groups with known voting patterns to vote more, and you're doing it to help one particular side, then you cannot say you are non-partisan, pretty simple. If Google really wanted to further the "interests of democracy" then they would ensure a broad segment was helped, not specific groups. When they start sending Google buses to bring evangelical Christians to the polls, while also getting Hispanics more access, THEN I would believe they are just trying to b
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Every sizeable under represented group at the polls leans left. Doing almost anything to improve participation helps the democrats.
So either you decide voting should have lower participation because that helps the republicans, or you prefer a more representative democracy in principle.
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Google could have targeted voters in Red states like Montana, Nebraska, Kansas..... they specifically avoided those states, because they didn't want to help Trump.
They wanted to help Hillary... therefore they were biased.
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That's not true. Actually the largest underrepresented voter group is men, since 1980. http://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/si... [rutgers.edu]
Now if a company started a program to help men get out and vote, I would say that is pretty biased as well.
Anyway, your point about non-voters leaning Democrat (I'm not sure that's true unless you're excluding all white non-voters, or all male non-voters) is about inequality of outcome, which I'm fine with. If you help everybody across the board and that happens to help Democrats, that doe
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Thought about it and decided not to. What kind of Orwellian thought crime are you accusing them of?
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I dunno. Is lying a concept you aren't familiar with ?
You know things like "Do no evil and hello mr Jinping"
Or
"We welcome diverse viewpoints Mr. Damore"
or
"We don't track where you are via your phone or what you do when not using our services"
Re:Non-story (Score:5, Insightful)
Somebody at Google said "hey, we could abuse our power for good!" and management came back saying "it's still abuse, so we're not doing it", and that was the end of it.
Compare it to: Somebody at Google said "hey, men and women are different and if we consider that then we could help increase actual diversity here for good!" and management came back saying "you're fired", and that was the end of it.
It's bad enough that Google even has this power, but between it and Facebook, there's clear pressure from the bottom up (thanks to the prevalence of thought in the Bay Area) to end up doing this. It's naive to think effort to effect these types of things end here.
Re:Non-story (Score:5, Insightful)
Dalmore was fired amidst hate-filled rants and threats from far-left fellow employees, and Google said "He was fired for violating company policy (we don't know which one). Our employees are not far-left, and we would never act on those views (that they don't have)."
Then recently we discovered that right after the 2016 election, Google executives held a meeting, where employees expressed dismay at Trump's election. Many people, including multiple CEx officers, spoke about why it happened, and started brainstorming about ho to make sure that 'fake news' could never make it happen again. Google responded, saying "Yes, we have far-left employees, but they were just expressing their opinions (even the CEO). They would never think of acting on it."
Now we see that employees felt comfortable publicly brainstorming how to use Google's search results to manipulate public opinion and political views. Google's latest response: "Sure, we have far-left employees, and they spend their time thinking of ways to oppose the other political party. However, they would never actually do it. Our search result algorithms, which we will never show you, certainly don't include any deliberate bias for our chosen political views."
As you said, it is naive to believe them when they've lied so much in the past.
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In 2016, I worked with an extremely right-wing company. I'm pretty sure their employees have enough guns to equip a small army.
After the election, a significant percentage were disappointed. In discussions afterward, a few of the die-hard conservatives even confessed they'd voted for HRC, because they worried that Trump would divide the Republican party.
Last I heard, they mostly just want him to shut up and do something that isn't controversial, so the party isn't constantly on defense, and might actually b
Re: Non-story (Score:1)
"die-hard conservatives even confessed they'd voted for HRC"
LOL. No they didn't.
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"die-hard conservatives even confessed they'd voted for HRC"
LOL. No they didn't.
You seem to be confusing conservatives and right-leaning populists. Plenty of conservatives didn't actually vote for Trump, choosing either to leave it blank, vote third party, vote for Evan, or -- alas -- vote for Hillary.
The 2016 election was a hot mess between two horrible candidates, and plenty of folks on both sides of the aisle decided to vote against whoever they happened to believe was worst. Not always on traditional party/ideology lines.
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Please read Mr. Damore's thesis, available at https://web.archive.org/web/20... [archive.org]
I read it as an honest statement of belief, based on traditional beliefs about sexual dimorphism. My own opinion? He's assuming some specific human social traditions, rather than "Mrs. Bear has the same job description as Mr. Bear. Find lunch!"
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It's bad enough that Google even has this power
Power to effect their own business? I know, shocking.
Management said no because their was no profit (Score:1)
I guess you missed the story about Google abusing their power to suppress search results in China [slashdot.org]. Or Google management suppressing an internal memo discussing the details of their deal with the PRC [slashdot.org] to track users search request.
If you really think management said no because it was "abusive", you're naive. The only reason management said no was because there was no money in it (yet).
Re:Non-story (Score:5, Insightful)
So you have one confirmed instance of employees' serious intent to rig search results, you have the management's *word* that it didn't happen, and from that you conclude that the story is not newsworthy because it follows no other instance of such intent ever occurred, or if it did it must also have been blocked by the management -- according to the management? After the leaked video showing clear and unequivocal political preferences of the management?
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Management? More like the PR department said they didn't do it.
The social justice engineers probably still did it because everyone knows certain keywords get tuned by hand. Google has become a company whose denials have to be read with the same skepticism given to a lawyer/politician's statement. The specific carve outs and what is not said is as important as what they have told you.
Re: Non-story (Score:1)
Actually, they should have been fired.
Google is losing public trust that their search is trusted. Which is the sole source or income for Google (Google employees are confused about where the $ come from). This is akin to sales reps chatting about how they'll inflate quarter end sales.
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> management came back saying "it's still abuse, so we're not doing it"
which is, of course, objectively untrue. In fact, Attorney General Jeff Sessions is expected to meet with statesâ(TM) attorneys general next week to discuss possible criminal action against tech firms that bias their products against conservatives. Because who could ever forgot how Trumpâ(TM)s electoral victory caused such âoepanic and dismayâ among top Google executive
- Also one can't help but be skeptical consid
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which is, of course, objectively untrue
Which of course it is objectively true.
See how I did that. No links, no references, nothing. I just had to type and it became true.
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Which proves this whole thing is politically biased by conservatives who think they run the world and no-one should be able to oppose them. Why isn't he discussing criminal action against firms that bias their products against the non-right?
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Why isn't he discussing criminal action against firms that bias their products against the non-right?
Um, What firms would that be?
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Fox News? Chick Fil A? The NFL?
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FOX is usually considered "centrist" in most media studies (while CNN, NBC are "left") so there's no reason to prosecute FOX.
- Chick Fil-A is no more anti-left than In N Out with its bible verses on the burgers/fries. Have we really reached a point where business people who are Christian are not considered "liable for criminal action" by the AG?
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good = stuff the country with foreigners?
Why do so many people think that way?
Foreigners from terrorist heavy nations, no less.
This news will be most shocking to people who think immigration should be slowed, but don't want to be ostracized / attacked / blacklisted for being a "nazi".
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They're lying. Google's algorithm used to show me all kinds of things in my feed that I'm actually interested in. But someone, somewhere decided that I shouldn't be interested in those things and they stopped showing up. Literally over night. Now I have to explicitly search for DefCon presentations when they used to just show up in my feed.
They've done it before, they will do it again as long as they think they can get away with it. And they will.
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'Do no evil' has become 'We decide what is evil, according to what is fashionable among the Elite, which is Us'.
Lord Acton was right.
Look deeper, there's more to this than you claim. (Score:2)
We can't be so sure, and it's generally unwise to consider only the company's word for this. But you have to read more news beyond this story to understand the debate over the issue. Ironically, you'd have to read stories that we're told aren't so easy to find if you depend on Google to bring them to your attention.
According to RT [rt.com], one of the
Re: Non-story (Score:1)
"we're not doing it"
Everyone knows Big Brother Google regularly manipulates search results for social and political purposes. When they say they didn't do it, they're lying.
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So let me try to summarize this:
Somebody at Google said "hey, we could abuse our power for good!" and management came back saying "it's still abuse, so we're not doing it", and that was the end of it.
Folks did their jobs, nothing bad happened, and everything worked as it should. It's nice to have a story that isn't sky-is-falling panic, but there's literally nothing newsworthy to report here.
Just like Google is not in the process of implementing custom services to support authoritarian police states. Oh, wait, they are, there is a memo about it, and some employees have protested it by quitting.
Just like Goggle does not censor search results in favor of gun control.
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And yet CEOs from so many companies will donate company profits to political compaigns, on the left and the right, and they get away with it. Why should politics be ok for CEOs but banned for employees?
Re: Non-story (Score:1)
Because workers have no rights?
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The employees that even suggested such actions should have been terminated on the spot.
No, termination is reserved for employees who do not contribute to Google's echo chamber.
What's next ? Google compromised Firefox ? (Score:1)
At this point, I am expecting it to be revealed that Google deliberately engineered the downfall of Firefox by working behind the scenes to remove functionality and implement the current horrible UI.
At this point, it really would not surprise me if it was suddenly revealed that the core Firefox developers are in fact Google plants.
It would certainly explain the last 10 years...
Seriously, what the hell is Google going to get up to next ?
Google's problem (Score:5, Interesting)
Google needs to realize that by moving away from a neutral platform to one that is politically biased that they have lost the public trust. Not all of the public yet, but enough that people are talking about, even those that are not political. Whether it's here on Slashdot, at work or at the dinner table people are talking about Google's bias, even in liberal states.
Google needs to damage control and it's going to take more than claims of not being biased to do it. Google needs to come clean about past bias, remove the SJW weighting and be honest with people about what they did. Nothing less than a full mea culpa is going to work at this point.
They can claim they aren't biased all day long, but people keep seeing (and not seeing) the same results. Nothing has changed. When Google declined congresses invitation it showed a lot of people a company that is that is arrogant and completely out of touch with the average American.
As it is right now, your starting to see a lot of people who are looking at Google and declaring that their monopoly is overdue for antitrust action. This is starting to become much more prevalent in conservative media which has traditionally stood against antitrust actions.
Re:Google's problem (Score:5, Interesting)
The cited discussions suggest that the majority, and even the management, was against political bias. I'm constantly surprised that companies (like mine!) succeed in actually discussing both sides of questions instead of jumping in on one side and firing anyone who disagrees.
I once had an ex-CTO that wanted to do evil as a matter of policy. He still gives me nightmares (;-))
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Google needs to realize that by moving away from a neutral platform to one that is politically biased that they have lost the public trust.
As opposed to all those companies exercising their corporate personhood's right to free speech that haven't lost the public trust?
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Why is Google not allowed to be political in a country where even fast food outlets are openly homophobic? And where Fox News can run far-right propaganda 24/7?
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Google is allowed to be political, however making a corporate statement or donating to support various candidates is different from manipulating search results without telling them. It's dishonest. It's providing an inferior product to certain people. It would be like the difference between a fast food outlet that is homophobic in the sense that they support things like Proposition 8, and a fast food outlet that secretly overcooks burgers and uses cold fries for customers they suspect of being gay.
Contributions in kind? Campaign finance violation? (Score:1)
Wow.
Sounds like a contribution-in-kind to Democrats.
And therefore a violation of campaign finance laws!
Or maybe campaign finance laws really ARE restrictions on free speech?
Are you "'progressives" who want to "no-platform" those you disagree with willing to have the laws you clamor for applied to YOU?
Why'd I even ask...
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Sounds like a contribution-in-kind to Democrats. And therefore a violation of campaign finance laws!
Thank you for admitting that the Republican platform is one of bigotry and racism (since you seem to be insinuating that no Republican could possible oppose such shenanigans).
Re: Contributions in kind? Campaign finance violat (Score:1)
95% of the American racists I've met in recent years were Democrat partisans. Dems think it's cool & trendy to be racist. Now the Euro racists - I met way more racist Euros than racist Americans - that's a whole different story.
Shit, bro - I was at a bar downtown last week and I met this old geezer German tourist. Dude claimed to be a real, live, formal member of the Nazi party! I was like, holy fuck - for realz??
But dude was kinduva failure as a Nazi. He seemed to enjoy drinking and talking with my d
More censorship (Score:2)
Time for a search engine that just presents search results without the leverage.
Re:More censorship (Score:5, Informative)
STARTPAGE is good. Also duckduckgo
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Startpage uses Google results as well. Ixquick.eu was good, but they abandoned it in favor of Startpage, and now Ixquick just redirects to Startpage.
That's fine... (Score:5, Insightful)
...as long as the Federal regulators now recognize that Google DOES exert editorial control over its content.
Therefore, they are no longer simply a 'blind carrier' of information but in fact are showing that they are functionally liable for whatever they link, right?
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Where have you been (Score:2)
Re: Where have you been (Score:1)
Oh my brother, can you share some of what you're smoking? That must be some goooooood shit!
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Going to assume this is a genuine question, and not just a snarky pedant trying to pretend cleverness.
I'm not referring to a "specific law" of course, but to the principle established decades ago that common carriers (ie the phone company) are not themselves liable for the content on their lines. You cannot sue AT&T because some terrorists planned to blow up your dog on AT&T phone lines.
For the last 20 years, internet providers and search providers like google have relied on this to hold themselves
Why you shouldn't use google search (Score:5, Insightful)
I loved google when they delivered search results relevant to my query. But increasingly they've been tweaking results. You can do the same search in google and then in other search results and there are certain things that should be in the google search that aren't.
Lots of things are still good about google... their translate service is pretty cool, their maps service is great, their image list thing is pretty good for finding random images that are similar to search results.
Lots of positive things. But... the company has abandoned their "don't be evil" motto.
Time to recognize that and pop over to DuckDuckGo or something.
Whatever your politics, if you put any stock in classical Western Liberalism, then you can't be okay with the search engine trying to bias your political opinions by biasing the search. They've been doing it. Everyone knows. Time to acknowledge it and move on.
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Google results are a product. If you don’t like them, don’t use them. If you don’t like that most people think they are just fine, then that is your problem.
You can argue that they are bad. You can promote a competitor that you feel is better.
Arguing that they are “evil” because they don’t reflect your priorities is stupid. Arguing that they have some obligation to promote views that they disagree with or suppress their own views is stupid.
Just because you can’t ima
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As to google products, their search engine is so ubiquitous that it actually has the ability to affect public perception. That is well beyond just a product. Indifferent to whether I stop using it or not, I have reason to be concerned.
Consider the "russian influence of the election" which was mostly a bunch of posts on facebook. If "that" is worth an FBI investigation, what is Google playing with search results worth? Or does it only matter when there's some alleged link to the Russians?
What if we just make
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"They haven't been doing it. Everyone knows."
Well, the very article in question has them discussing it right there for one.
Let us not play the "I bet you don't know how a search engine works" game.
You either accept that I can find lots of links to substantiate my position... as I would hope you know I can... or you can waste my time by daring me to do it... and then try to claim the links aren't any good for some reason... Probably because they weren't notarized by Jesus or something.
All the while... you'll
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All the while... you'll probably not be citing anything... doing any kind of work... or really doing anything to balance out the effort here.
Let me explain how proof and evidence work. It's not up to me to provide evidence that something isn't happening. If you want to make a claim, about anything, the burden is on the accuser. You may not like that but it's how we do law and order in the good ol' USA. You know that whole innocent until proven guilty thing?
We do both know they were doing it. Your argument is blatant time wasting.
Out here in the real, we require evidence. Your evidence appears to be that 2-3 of the 70,000 Google employees were discussing how they didn't like Trump. The shocking revelation in TFA is tha
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If you are willing to go quid pro quo with effort then I'll do make an effort.
if you're just asking whether the Sun is in the sky to waste my time then we're done.
As to "how things work in the real"... in the real, we don't ask common knowledge questions. That sort of silliness is a sad internet rhetorical tactic.
So no. What you're doing is not how we do things in the real.
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So no. What you're doing is not how we do things in the real.
This is so basic that I have to assume you are not from a western country.
1. If you accuse someone of a crime, or wrongdoing, the burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused.
2. If you can point to some actual wrongdoing here... great. Otherwise, you are just hanging onto this abstract, hypothetical injustice that you can't quantify.
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I can only assume by your comment that you don't realize how transparent your rhetoric is here.
First, you quite obviously are trying to waste my time because all I asked you to do was put in about five seconds here and there doing web searches. That apparently is over the line of what you're willing to invest which means you're at best a troll.
Second, you're claiming "you are not from a western country." Friendo, you're compounding stupid lies on top of stupid lies. I'm quite obviously "western." I'm just n
This is why (Score:1)
Google MUST be broken up.
Countering the travel ban plan? (Score:1)
Newspapers, Radio, TV (Score:2)
Newspapers, Radio, TV have been doing this as long as they've existed and they are controlled by power capitalists continuously pushing their agenda.
e.g. It's The Sun Wot Won It (1992) [wikipedia.org] a meme that predates even Eternal September (1993) [wikipedia.org]
The idea that Google, FB, Twitter and the likes are really interested in pushing an agenda that doesn't also promotes their own self interest is deluding themselves.
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Don't be evil? (Score:1)
We know they do. (Score:1)
We already know they're modifying results in China, they've admitted it. Isn't that the definition of evil? I have no doubt they're modifying everyone elses results. It's easy. I type something in on a co-workers machine and I get very different results.
Just give it to us straight. What we need is honesty. Not some leftist bullshit world that doesn't work anywhere in the world.
Google needs to do some serious soul searching. First step, get rid of all the leftists.
U.S. Attorney General Jeff (Score:1)
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