22-Year-Old Google Engineer Dies At His Work Terminal (nypost.com) 209
"A Google software engineer has been found dead inside the company's Chelsea headquarters," reports the New York Post:
A janitor found 22-year-old Scott Krulcik unconscious at his work terminal on the sixth floor of the building on Eighth Avenue near West 16th Street around 9 p.m. on Friday, police sources said. EMS workers tried to perform CPR but to no avail. Krulcik was pronounced dead at the scene.
"Krulcik's Linkedin page says he began working at Google in August," reports long-time Slashdot reader McGruber, adding that "Police sources say that his body did not show any signs of trauma, nor did he have a history of medical conditions or substance abuse problems."
"Krulcik's Linkedin page says he began working at Google in August," reports long-time Slashdot reader McGruber, adding that "Police sources say that his body did not show any signs of trauma, nor did he have a history of medical conditions or substance abuse problems."
Probable Cause (Score:5, Funny)
Kids, this is why you NEVER go back through source history to look at the first commits for any old project.
Think end of Radiers Of the Lost Ark.
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THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR LIES NAZI FAGGOT KEN DOLL
Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING. Filter error:
WTF did SuperKendall do? Is the new Cdreimer? Speaking of the latter, where is that guy?
Identifies as evil (Score:1)
As long as he/she/they/xe/ze identify as alive, we must treat them that way out of respect for their identify. We cannot tolerate this abuse of the dominant livearchy, despite their claims that no accomplishments were made by the non-life-gifted.
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The grammatically correct pronoun is "it".
It is rarely used on people but I don't see any technical reason why it shouldn't.
The only clue (Score:5, Funny)
Police on the scene -- you know what I mean -- noted the letters YTREWQ on his forehead, but they were marked as if they were meant to be looked at in a mirror.
At least it wasn't Comic Sans, said the world weary detective.
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Still suspicious (Score:3)
Re:Still suspicious (Score:5, Insightful)
Can I interest you in a jump to conclusions mat? They are great. You can just claim something as suspicious based on an article with only around 200 words, most of which you clearly didn't read otherwise you'd know that the medical examiner is already tasked with determining the cause of death.
Re:Still suspicious (Score:4, Insightful)
Autopsies are always done when the cause of death isn't known, suspicious or not. 99% of them are done for purely medical history reasons.
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Re: Still suspicious (Score:1)
Thanks Mr. Internet Detective, what would we do without you?
Though I think it's more likely that he died of natural causes. Yes, this does happen to people at his age. Brain aneurysm, blood clot, acute cardiac failure, etc. My coworker nearly died of a bifurcated aorta. In many cases, the symptom of these is just tiredness, easily confused with the tiredness most office workers experience later in the day.
Why this is news? Who the fuck knows.
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Google execs found their leaker!
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"I'm going to allow this." - Futurama judge.
Chelsea, New York City (Score:5, Informative)
Just putting this out there that they mean Chelsea in Manhattan, New York City.
For those of us whose first notion was Chelsea in London. You know, on the other side of the big-ish pond.
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I though Chelsea was Obama's daughter...
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I thought it was something on Netflix...
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Next time you just hop on google and start "googling" things, think of the poor, poor 22 year old engineers with those giant stacks of books and banks and banks of filing cabinets, and how rapidly they have to run
Wait... they’re using people? I thought it was some sort of really fast dog.
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Karshi or Ennui? (Score:3)
Dead at Desk was always one of my worst nightmares.
3 or 4 people in my group were hospitalized during a death march project that involved 200+ consultants over the course of less than a year.
200+ Consultants ? (Score:1)
200+ Consultants ? That's either or a sign of the apocalypse, or time to find new employment.
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Another case of sudden heart attack death (Score:1)
I have no idea why it happens so much more frequently these days, but every now and then you get reports of young adults and teens just dropping dead from a heart condition nobody knew they had. [nih.gov] Young athletes regularly get screened for these [dailycamera.com] nowadays, but most people aren't aware of the risk.
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Infection, even from a flue, can in rare cases cause heart attacks. My brother had this happen at 25 years old. The worst part was that the ER nurses at the hospital thought he was just some kid OD'ing on drugs so gave him the lowest priority, as someone that young is unlikely to have a "legitimate" heart problem. It took yelling from his CO showing up several minutes later to convince them he wasn't some guy who just stumbled in from an alleyway. Normally, if you were a bit older, and mention having an
Re:Another case of sudden heart attack death (Score:5, Insightful)
Infection, even from a flue, can in rare cases cause heart attacks. My brother had this happen at 25 years old. The worst part was that the ER nurses at the hospital thought he was just some kid OD'ing on drugs so gave him the lowest priority, as someone that young is unlikely to have a "legitimate" heart problem. It took yelling from his CO showing up several minutes later to convince them he wasn't some guy who just stumbled in from an alleyway. Normally, if you were a bit older, and mention having any sort of chest or heart problem in an ER, you get swarmed by people checking if it is a heart attack.
That said, I don't know why this is news. There is some chance of people dying at any age from unknown medical conditions or some really bad luck. Unless this is directly related to his work at Google, then it is something that happens at any large company from time to time.
A few years back a female friend, probably about 26 at time time, had some sort of bad chest infection (not a cold, but probably not life threatening). Either way she went to the doctor and mentioned it was giving her chest pains... 10 minutes later they had her in emergency for an overnight visit.
It did take her a few weeks to fully recover from the infection, but "chest pains" turned out ot be a magic phrase that escalated things very quickly.
Re:Another case of sudden heart attack death (Score:5, Funny)
Infection, even from a flue, can in rare cases cause heart attacks.
Damn straight. Clean those chimneys, folks.
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It's news for the same reason so many other things are news today. Count up the number of sub-25 y/o people in Google, Tesla, Facebook, Apple, and other companies that people investigate every single iota of information escaping in hopes of finding something to put in the news and multiply that by the accumulated chance of every freak thing you can think of and you get numerous articles like this implying mountains where there aren't even molehills.
Truthfully, it doesn't even have to relate to a watched ent
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I have no idea why it happens so much more frequently these days, but every now and then you get reports of young adults and teens just dropping dead from a heart condition nobody knew they had. [nih.gov] Young athletes regularly get screened for these [dailycamera.com] nowadays, but most people aren't aware of the risk.
I don't think this happens more frequently, it's just that historically people died much more frequently. So even when someone young and seemingly healthy died without a clear explanation it didn't seem much out of the ordinary since young and healthy people were dying on a regular basis.
This still seems odd as a news item, it's very tragic (and I'm not a fan of all the people trying to make a funny comment) but people do die at work.
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I remember reading a newspaper report about 30 years ago about the inquest into a teenager's sudden death. It turned out that he had an undetected heart defect. He had had sex with his girlfriend 3 times in about an hour and a half and the effort was too much for his 19 year-old heart.
Re: Another case of sudden heart attack death (Score:2)
That's the one that predicts Satan ruling for a thousand years, right?
The one that was used as the basis for Left Behind, about a populist tyrant that destroys the free press and moves the embassy to Jerusalem?
Yeah, I can see people being concerned.
...found around 9p.m. on Friday... (Score:5, Funny)
...said nothing until Wednesday because, as the junior put it, "He still looked more productive than half the people here."
sounds like a Japanese salary man story (Score:1)
Death by overwork. "Karoshi"
Seriously? (Score:1, Insightful)
A 22-year-old man is DEAD and the asshats on this site are making their usual pathetic jokes?
This site needs an enema with a power washer.
Re: Seriously? (Score:5, Insightful)
He's a white guy, he's expendable
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So, did he have a red shirt?
Re:Seriously? (Score:5, Insightful)
As someone else said, there are 7.7 billion people on the planet and 1.8 billion seconds in a 90 year life span.
None of us here knew the guy, what are we supposed to do? Go into hysterics because he's dead and it's so TERRIBLE AND THE WORLD HAS ENDED AND NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME EVER AGAIN!
Do you realize how many people died around the world while I was typing this very post? Do you mourn all of them? And if so, do you then mourn the people who died while you mourned the first group?
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As someone else said, there are 7.7 billion people on the planet and 1.8 billion seconds in a 90 year life span.
None of us here knew the guy, what are we supposed to do? Go into hysterics because he's dead and it's so TERRIBLE AND THE WORLD HAS ENDED AND NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME EVER AGAIN!
Do you realize how many people died around the world while I was typing this very post? Do you mourn all of them? And if so, do you then mourn the people who died while you mourned the first group?
No one is saying you need to mourn him, I wouldn't expect most people who lack a personal connection to have an emotional response.
But if you're not mourning there are other possible responses (or non-responses) than insensitive jokes.
Keep in mind this guy worked at Google, exactly the demographic who reads slashdot. Some of his friends and co-workers might actually be reading this comment section.
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If you go onto the internet and see an article about a guy you knew who died, and you start reading the article and then the comments and you DO NOT EXPECT the internet to be the internet then you shouldn't be on the internet in the first place.
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If you go onto the internet and see an article about a guy you knew who died, and you start reading the article and then the comments and you DO NOT EXPECT the internet to be the internet then you shouldn't be on the internet in the first place.
The fact that some people are crappy isn't a justification to be crappy yourself.
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A 22-year-old man is DEAD and the asshats on this site are making their usual pathetic jokes?
Hey, lighten up! We have learned to cope using humor but we all know the seriousness of the situation (of which this young man's death is evidence) of being forced to switch from vi to Emacs.
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Man, are you going to be outraged when you see what the rest of the Internets are like...
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Why do you words ?
Could it be... (Score:1)
Karoshi?
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This is news? (Score:5, Insightful)
Although it is tragic that someone in their 20's drops dead at work.... to me, this is not so rare or interesting. And because it happened at Google, that doesn't really make it "news for nerds." Besides, he has only been at Google for a few months.
Now, if he were some famous tech person, or if his death was linked to tech work, or computer work, or has a technological link or the situation contained some science or part of some study... perhaps that would be interesting. Right now we know almost NOTHING about why he died. Congenital defect, drug abuse, rare disease, accidentally poisoned, stroke, nothing.
Re:This is news? (Score:4, Insightful)
It is interesting because sudden death at age 22 ought to be rare. Recall the recent death of a young woman at University of Maryland from an adenovirus infection, followed by the discovery there of around 30 more cases of adenovirus, some requiring hospitalization. Over the years, clusters of adenovirus and of meningitis have arisen in situations where young people are making a transition into living in close quarters with others: dorms, military training, and how about someone starting work in an expensive urban area? (Silicon Valley Airbnb listings have several dorm-like situations specifically marketed to young technical workers.)
Aneurysms, cardiac electrical defects, septicemia and valve damage following dental work (prime age for wisdom tooth extraction)... My worst episodes of flu (or perhaps something with flu-like symptoms, like adenovirus) were between ages 18 and 27. At age 18 I was failing to recover from what seemed like flu, then developed high fever that affected my judgment; someone finally noticed and dragged me to the doctor: bacterial pneumonia.
A colleague of mine some years ago, age mid 30's, was out of work with what began as typical flu. It evolved badly, attacked his heart, and left him with 20% loss of heart function.
The case is of public interest: a person at an age where serious consequences of undiscovered congenital defects can appear, increased exposure through new living situations, immune system not yet hardened by previous exposures, "it's just the flu", and the idea that one ought to just power through any situation.
There is an immediate lesson that does not require a medical examiner's findings from one tragic case. If you have someone age 17-28 in your family situation or in your general circumstances, yes this is the physically most capable age where people do amazing things, but it also has special vulnerabilities, including suddenly dropping dead on a basketball court. Keep watch and be aware that, though occurrence is rare, things can go bad quickly for those with undiscovered defects, or who become infected by something especially bad.
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It depends on the details. When my roommate started at Google on a Monday, after leaving for work on Wednesday he didn't come home that night or Thursday night. I tried calling him, but his phone was dead so I went by the parking lot early AM on Friday morning, and his car was there. After pounding on the door, I finally got someone to it to go check on him. His entire team had been there since Wednesday morning so he didn't feel like he could leave. I talked him into leaving since he wasn't making sen
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this is not so rare or interesting
I could not disagree more. What you have here is something that is quite rare and often almost a meme associated with Japanese working culture. The fact that it happened in the USA puts it statistically in the incredibly rare bucket, the fact that it happened at Google could be dumb luck, but it is nothing if not interesting.
I wish there is a way to help solve the mystery .. (Score:5, Insightful)
Some company that tracks every email, every text, every search and logs them all, making it available for the police to reconstruct the last few events and keystrokes of a dead person .... If only such a company existed they can help the police ....
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Why? In all likelihood it would just show him dying without visible cause. This happens sometimes, and then autopsy reveals internal malfunction or condition that caused it. For example, there are undetectable conditions that can cause a young person to go into cardiac arrest.
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"Whooosh" doesn't have the intended effect if the joke wasn't funny to begin with.
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nope, you were wooshed, you wooshie
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The NSA??!
Programmers don't die, (Score:2)
they just GOSUB without RETURN.
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Sounds more like GOTO hell.
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They just hit an unhandled exception.
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systemd failed to respawn a process that died.
Well... (Score:2)
Looks like itâ(TM)s time for Google to reset their âoeN days without a workplace fatalityâ board.
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What, Google doesn't support Unicode either?
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Very good (Score:2)
I am sure he gained great face with the company.
Where's * FOLLOW* button? (Score:2)
I've pulled all nighters. Hell even day'n nighters on end, 36 hrs. no sleep, in rooms without windows... somewhere; no matter. At 22 y.o. this young man had his peak of youth vitality and creativity just ahead. So this be one to follow SLASHDOT as a subscription.
If you don't; you don't care - why you here?
23 may means death, but 22 - 2 + 2 = 4 = 2^2 ... (Score:1)
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That's what happens ... (Score:2)
... when your try to make sense of Wordpresses application model.
Poor young fellow.
Trauma (Score:2)
Does using an Android device count as a sign of trauma?
Eh (Score:2)
When all you eat for years on end are depression meds and adderall, this sort of thing is bound to happen when you suddenly discover working in a cubicle isn't all it's made out to be, and all the effort you put in over the last 22 years is ultimately worth nothing at all.
Don't be a slave to the machine, people. Wake up.
Too many energy drinks, perhaps? (Score:2)
Maybe he hit his limit on Red-Bull or Mountain Dew input and his system simply crashed for good.
There are people out there that simply shouldn't have them in the first place, but younger folks feel they are immune to the effects.
Surely the M.E. will do a through examination and come up with an accurate cause of death.
It just goes to show: When it's your time to go, it's your time.
Actuallty it is Karoshi (Score:1)
from Japanese ka excess + ro labour + shi death
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It was his work terminal because that was the end of the line for him.
Re:so? (Score:5, Insightful)
Is there some reason we would should be surprised that Google employees are not exempt from this possibility?
Re:so? (Score:5, Insightful)
Every once is a while, someone who appears to be perfectly healthy just suddenly dies. Film at 11. Is there some reason we would should be surprised that Google employees are not exempt from this possibility?
Well it's not really once in a while anymore, it's rare. From the mortality tables here in Norway the average 22 year old has a 0.0473% chance of dying that year. And of those it's about 1/3rd accidents/violence, 1/3rd suicide and 1/3rd medical conditions. From there I'd have to speculate based on diagnosis how many of those conditions were previously completely unknown, but it's definitively a minority so the risk of unexpectedly dropping dead is <0.01% and quite possibly much lower than that too.
Re: so? (Score:2)
My sisters friend at school, husband dropped dead at the office 6 months after they got married. There was absolutely no indication of any issue and they say he was dead by the time he hit the floor. Despite extensive efforts they where unable to revive him. A couple of years ago a young footballer (soccer) in the English Premier League collapse on the pitch, and for the prompt actions from a cardiac consultant in the crowd would have died. Well he did, but with expert help at immediate hand they where abl
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There's 7.7 billion people on this planet and only ~1.8 billion seconds in a 90-year lifespan.
Even if you tried to care about every single person, 1 second for 1 person, your life would run out by the time you hit 1.8 billion if you are lucky to hit 90.
Kind of a pointless venture.
That's why i find these groups who represent an entire gender or race moronic. You don't even have the basic math education to realize you don't have the lifespan to represent them all for 1 second each, yet you are pulling this shit? Get the fuck outta here.
Agree, with your logic but i don't believe that's their angle, maybe it means that they are FIGURATIVELY representing an entire race or gender?
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The people representing "Minorities' don't really understand, the smallest minority is the minority of one. There are 7.7 billion minority groups on the planet. They know they can't represent the individual, so they start representing the group. Without realizing it, they are siding with the tyranny against the individual, and are in a cause against that which they claim to represent, those groups that are oppressed by larger groups.
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The people representing "Minorities' don't really understand, the smallest minority is the minority of one. There are 7.7 billion minority groups on the planet. They know they can't represent the individual, so they start representing the group. Without realizing it, they are siding with the tyranny against the individual, and are in a cause against that which they claim to represent, those groups that are oppressed by larger groups.
Again, I agree with your logic/reasoning. Not to sound like an apologist for the people representing "minorities", but do you have an alternative?
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Sure. The US used to have a system of law that considered certain minorities to be subhuman and allowed them to be treated as property and, frankly, to be maimed or murdered at will. Those laws have been watered down and chipped away at decade after decade and year after year until the traces of them are _nearly_ all gone. Traces remain, however, and the cultural attitudes that created them are far from gone and there are plenty of individuals and groups continuously pushing new oppressive measures.
Up again
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I was thinking of that last week actually. I volunteer, give money, etc. I am not the best, but I try. The biggest alleged Social Justice Warriors I know are generally some of the most self centred people I know when it comes to physically, with real time and money, helping real people. They give a nickel and feel like they have saved humanity, while others give far more. They are also some of the most privileged people I know.
I am gay, non-white and disabled and come from a very impoverished background, si
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There's 7.7 billion people on this planet and only ~1.8 billion seconds in a 90-year lifespan.
Even if you tried to care about every single person, 1 second for 1 person, your life would run out by the time you hit 1.8 billion if you are lucky to hit 90.
Kind of a pointless venture.
That's why i find these groups who represent an entire gender or race moronic. You don't even have the basic math education to realize you don't have the lifespan to represent them all for 1 second each, yet you are pulling this shit? Get the fuck outta here.
Agree with your logic, but not your math:
90 * 365.25 * 24 * 60 * 60 = 2,840,184.000
so more like 2.8 billion seconds
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where 2,840,184.000 should be 2,840,184,000 (oops)
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Agree with your logic, but not your math:
90 * 365.25 * 24 * 60 * 60 = 2,840,184.000
so more like 2.8 billion seconds
If you don't get at least 6 hours of sleep per day, you wont make it to 90.
Re: so? (Score:3)
So, for you, personally, you have to count every integer that exists before you can define the abstract set of integers?
No?
Abstract sets can contain every element, past present and future without having to inspect each one?
Then I can apply any operation to the entire set without having to apply it individually.
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Not when they trace this back to you and see how little you seem to care about the deaths of your fellow employees.
Re: How disrespectful! (Score:1)
Singular-they has been a feature in English for referring to an unknown subject for 700 years, it's a little late to be complaining now.
Not Murder (Score:2)
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isLive() returned false.