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Chrome's Ad Blocker Will Go Global On July 9 (venturebeat.com) 129

An anonymous reader quotes a report from VentureBeat: Google today announced that Chrome's ad blocker is expanding across the globe starting on July 9, 2019. As with last year's initial ad blocker rollout, the date is not tied to a specific Chrome version. Chrome 76 is currently scheduled to arrive on May 30 and Chrome 77 is slated to launch on July 25, meaning Google will be expanding the scope of its browser's ad blocker server-side. Google last year joined the Coalition for Better Ads, a group that offers specific standards for how the industry should improve ads for consumers.

In February, Chrome started blocking ads (including those owned or served by Google) on websites that display non-compliant ads, as defined by the coalition. When a Chrome user navigates to a page, the browser's ad filter checks if that page belongs to a site that fails the Better Ads Standards. If so, network requests on the page are checked against a list of known ad-related URL patterns and any matches are blocked, preventing ads from displaying on the page. Because the Coalition for Better Ads announced this week that it is expanding its Better Ads Standards beyond North America and Europe to cover all countries, Google is doing the same. In six months, Chrome will stop showing all ads on sites in any country that repeatedly display "disruptive ads."

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Chrome's Ad Blocker Will Go Global On July 9

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  • Not needed (Score:5, Insightful)

    by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @08:25PM (#57934732) Homepage Journal
    We already have ad blockers that block ALL ads. All ads are disruptive by design.
    • On top of that, ad blocking being integrated into the browser was already done first by Opera... funny that Opera is still leading the pack even though its now merely a skin on top of chrome.
      • Google is doing it purely for business reasons, they hate competition. If you see ads, they should be coming from Google, or at least paying Google, not some third party with no financial connection to them.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Google last year joined the Coalition for Better Ads

      That makes as much sense as a Coalition for Better Nuclear Weapons, or Coalition for Better Malaria.

      a group that offers specific standards for how the industry should improve ads for consumers.

      Do those "standards" include websites not showing ads that originate from a network, or contain content, not under their control? Do those standards include websites being held liable for ads that deliver malware? No? Then fuck you.

      Ads used to just be annoying. Now they are a major vector for malware distribution, due to a combination of greed, laziness, incompetence, greed and greed.

      There is no such thin

      • by tepples ( 727027 ) <.tepples. .at. .gmail.com.> on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @09:45PM (#57935094) Homepage Journal

        Do those "standards" include websites not showing ads that originate from a network, or contain content, not under their control?

        No. The standards ban eight distinct ad formats deemed unacceptably annoying in tests:

        - pop-ups (other than exit intent pop-ups)
        - autoplaying audio (other than preroll before relevant video)
        - vertical ad density over 30 percent of article space
        - sticky ad taller than 30 percent of the scrolling area
        - prestitials (with countdown on desktop or at all on mobile)
        - postitials with countdown
        - animated ads that include flashing elements
        - screen-height ads that appear as a float rather than inline, thereby pausing scrolling of the article behind it (a format that I haven't personally seen in the wild)

        They do not discern whether the ads are served by the publisher or by a third party, nor whether serving them relies on surveiling the viewing habits of each visitor across numerous unrelated websites in order to infer each visitor's interests.

        Currently, the standards page [betterads.org] includes a pile of 404 errors with -archived-0 in URLs, but the links from the research page [betterads.org] still work.

    • But you and I had to opt in to block them. This sounds like ALL Chrome users will benefit. Chrome has over 50% browser market share (thanks to Android) so this is huge.
    • Agreed.

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      This is too little, too late. If this had been around

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      might be more sympathetic their plight.

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    • I don't see how this is even "blocking ads," it is merely "blocking google's competitors."

      They're going to get sued for monopoly abuse in 12 countries for this.

    • We already have ad blockers that block ALL ads

      We do? I use AdBlockPlus, and I still see a whole lot of ads! Sites are more and more learning how to get around the ad blockers.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Ads have no place on the internet.

    • Ads have no place on the internet.

      How much have you donated to Slashdot to ensure its financial ability to continue to publish what you wrote? Would you prefer that your favorite sites all go behind a paywall? If not, I'd be interested to read about your third option to fund full-time operation of a website other than ads or paywalls.

      • That is an interesting point of view. Sans ads and the marketing behind /. It would probably cost $40US a month to run. The rebuttal though is how much loss of wages per month (due to time and bandwidth) you incur on /. . (I admit this is a spurious comment with little research...ie bandwidth used by /. per month without images and ads and a guess at a $40 linode to host it)
      • by tepples ( 727027 )

        How much have you donated to Slashdot to ensure its financial ability to continue to publish what you wrote?

        Full disclosure: I used to subscribe to Slashdot. I don't nowadays because its subscribe button [slashdot.org] has been broken for years:

        Please Note: Buying or gifting of a new subscription is not available at the moment. We apologize for the inconvenience. This downtime though does not effect your current active subscription in any way. We will keep you posted on the latest

        SoylentNews, by contrast, still has a working subscribe button (and working Unicode).

    • Sometimes, I'm looking for a product to buy. There's a lot of research I have to do to eliminate unsuitable brands, but there are several left. But at that point I'm pretty much asking to be advertised to.

      The issue is normally it's a crappy brand I've eliminated that advertises to me.

    • The problem is that ads did make sense, back when they were a simple bar, or text based stuff. Then came the video ads, then the pop-ups, and so on. Now, one of the biggest infection vectors around is malvertising, with ad companies turning a blind eye to malicious code served through their networks because the delivery mechanism can be widespread and not hit an IP range twice in a close interval.

      Once ads became security issues, ad-blocking has become more vital than an AV program. I've even personally t

  • Good news (Score:5, Funny)

    by bobstreo ( 1320787 ) on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @08:28PM (#57934748)

    You can never have enough ad-blockers/tracking blockers running in your browser, as long as there is stull some memory left in your device to actually display the content you were trying to see.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    And I don't want to see "compliant" ads either, fuck you, I'll continue blocking every single goddam ad/frame/beacon and you data thief schmucks can go have a shvitz in HELL, how bou dah?

    • by tepples ( 727027 )

      fuck you, I'll continue blocking every single goddam ad

      I can think of one practical problem with your suggestion if it were to become widely adopted. It'd...

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      • You do realize Slashdot clones exist that have no ads at all?

        • by tepples ( 727027 )

          I'm aware of SoylentNews. It has no ads, but the featured articles it links to have just as many ads as the featured articles that Slashdot links to.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    How does a corporation built on ads provide a platform to disable them? No, I didn't read TFA. Is this something about "bad" ads v "good" ads (as defined by Google)?
    • by Bert64 ( 520050 )

      Easy, they disable their competitors ads...

      • by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

        This part is odd for me. How is this not a monopolist leveraging their near-monopoly in desktop and android mobile browser markets to attack their competitors in advertising field which is their main money maker?

        • Why do you think it isn't?

          Does that get punished before it happens, or after? What stage are current events at?

          Has this corporation received a major monopoly smack-down in the past? If not, why would they even have internal processes to protect against it?

    • Yes, this is good ads/bad ads as defined by a "third party" that Google sits on the board of. And that info was in the summary, you didn't even need to read the article.

  • by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @08:36PM (#57934818)

    Google makes way too much money for something like this to block video ads on YouTube. I'm sure this is more of an effort to make it more difficult for people to identify which ad blocker they should use because there is no way this thing blocks YouTube ads.

    • Not blocking youtube ads would be a killer for tech enthusiasts, but I'm fair confident that many advertisements by google ad networks wont be blocked, not just youtubes.
    • Preroll ads before "video content that is relevant to the content of the page itself" are not one of the eight ad formats that the Better Ads Standards ban. The ban on autoplaying audio [betterads.org] explicitly does not ban preroll ads.

    • It doesn't. It blocks ads on pages that don't advertise like Google does.

      Basically, this is going to mean the end of auto-play ads with sound, and not much more.
    • by Actually, I do RTFA ( 1058596 ) on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @10:33PM (#57935254)

      Not only that, if it blocks Facebook and other competitive ad networks, but not doubleclick/google ads, it seems like that's very much in Google's interest.

      • by Merk42 ( 1906718 )

        In February, Chrome started blocking ads (including those owned or served by Google)

        • Yes, if they violate Google's "good ad" policy. (Technically 3rd party, but they're on the board.) Odds that Google's ads don't meet their own policy? I mean, sure it sounds neutral. But it's not.

          • by Merk42 ( 1906718 )

            Yes, if they violate Google's "good ad" policy. (Technically 3rd party, but they're on the board.) Odds that Google's ads don't meet their own policy? I mean, sure it sounds neutral. But it's not.

            So you even know the policy is by a 3rd party but are being disingenuous anyway?
            The policy covers how the ad behaves, not who delivers it. Nothing in what makes an ad "good" is restricted to something only Google can make.

            • Goalpost shift. I said Google wasn't blocking its own ads (since its ads are going to comply with the behavior it prescribes.) That is, all Google ads are shown. You then went on a tangent about how non-Google ads may also be shown.

              That said, maybe it was an accident. A lot of people get "All X are Y" and "Only X are Y" confused.

              • by Merk42 ( 1906718 )
                You're heavily implying that the reason Google wouldn't be blocking their own ads is some anticompetitive thing and not just that the ads followed the standards. If you didn't mean to imply it, why did you say "I mean, sure it sounds neutral. But it's not."
                • Yes, I'm implying, and stating outright, that this is an anticompetive move by Google. The "acceptable ads" (which are not really determined by a third-party, because they're on that board) specifically exclude the most profitable ad types that Facebook and Amazon use. Sure it's "neutral", but it isn't. It allows what Google has been tuned for.

                  • by Merk42 ( 1906718 )
                    Cool, except as pointed out earlier, some of GOOGLES OWN ADS ARE BLOCKED. Also the standards were created before Google was even on the board. I'm sure Google weren't even on the board at all you'd have some "Follow The Money" conspiracy lined up anyway.
                    • I like your all caps, but there's actually no evidence Google's own ads were ever blocked. Google's ads aren't immune. There's a big fucking difference. That is, Google blocked all their ads that don't line up, all 0%. I

                      And Google was also involved in talks with the organization in the beginning. The standards group was founded at a pro-advertisers conference (and covered here on /.)

                      Or show me a single example of an ad served by Google being blocked.

                    • by Merk42 ( 1906718 )
                      OK so this whole thing came from something in TFS that you're just choosing to believe is wrong. It all makes sense now.
    • by umafuckit ( 2980809 ) on Thursday January 10, 2019 @03:55AM (#57936080)

      Google makes way too much money for something like this to block video ads on YouTube. I'm sure this is more of an effort to make it more difficult for people to identify which ad blocker they should use because there is no way this thing blocks YouTube ads.

      It's an effort to push people away from using current blanket ad blockers by getting rid of the most annoying ads. If people follow through they will start to see more ads from Google as they will get rid of their ad blocker. I'm sure that's the thinking, anyway.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I use an ad blocker mostly as a security measure and it really is the shit shady semi-criminal ad networks that are responsible for most malware. Not saying the 'legit' networks are perfect and they can do a lot more to enforce their own networks.

    This isn't perfect and I don't plant to use it, but for unskilled users this can potentially cut down on a lot of malware/scams and that's a good thing.

  • by Fly Swatter ( 30498 ) on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @09:08PM (#57934982) Homepage
    Almost a monopoly, and their primary business model is ads... Or have they simply moved to just completely selling your data tracking.
  • by mysidia ( 191772 ) on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @09:39PM (#57935082)

    I want to keep using a 3rd party extension with the important feature of NOT BEING INSTALLED BY DEFAULT

    Simple.... Whatever Ad-Blocker is installed by default will be the ad-blocker that all the websites that want to show Ads spend their efforts detecting and making workarounds for.... workarounds like annoying prompts requiring you to "Whitelist" before being allowed to see the content referenced by the search link you clicked on.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Exactly. Only a moron would trust google to do this properly and protect their users, that ship has sailed.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      "If you like your ad blocker, you can keep your ad blocker."

      There's no actual cost to "not using Chrome at all", if they piss you off too much.

    • I want to keep using a 3rd party extension with the important feature of NOT BEING INSTALLED BY DEFAULT

      Simple.... Whatever Ad-Blocker is installed by default will be the ad-blocker that all the websites that want to show Ads spend their efforts detecting and making workarounds for.... workarounds like annoying prompts requiring you to "Whitelist" before being allowed to see the content referenced by the search link you clicked on.

      The point is that this ad blocker will let through all compliant ads. So the scenario you're worrying about likely isn't going to happen. It will be easier for people to make their ads compliant rather than trying to find ways around Google's ad blocker. That's the whole idea: to make ads less annoying so fewer people install blanket ad blockers.

      • by mysidia ( 191772 )

        The point is that this ad blocker will let through all compliant ads. So the scenario you're worrying about likely isn't going to happen.

        Well... how the feature is explained it will block ALL ads, even Ads by Google, On websites that display ANY non-compliant ads.

        I'm personally not 100% sure what a "Compliant ad" is, But this causes a few concerns.... (1) Does Google really agree with us on how much and what kind of ad placement would be "OK" ? (2) Does this include any feature where a 3rd

        • by Merk42 ( 1906718 )

          I'm personally not 100% sure what a "Compliant ad" is...

          Helpful examples of what is considered NOT compliant [betterads.org].

        • I agree: I wouldn't trust Google and will continue running my current ad blocker. I suspect people who don't run an ad blocker (less techy?) might like this new blocker.
    • Whatever Ad-Blocker is installed by default will be the ad-blocker that all the websites that want to show Ads spend their efforts detecting and making workarounds for

      The Mozilla Firefox web browser is installed by default on most GNU/Linux distributions and available for Windows, macOS, and Android. Private Browsing is installed by default (but not enabled by default) in Firefox. Private Browsing includes a "tracking protection" feature that causes Firefox not to connect to servers involved in large-scale surveillance of viewers' browsing habits across multiple websites to gather interest data and "retarget" viewers.

      Sites could work around tracking protection by falling

    • Simple fix: use Firefox
  • by Anonymous Coward

    I was getting tired of Google's ads. Hopefully it will stop Google collecting information about me too.

  • the good approved encrypted trusted ads get allowed.
    The bad third party ads get banned.

    Always use a trusted ad blocker that's not made by an ad company.
  • After google quite heavy-handedly banned the use of system-wide adblockers on Android a few years ago, not being able to filter ads at browser level was probably the primary reason why many long-time Chrome users started switching to Firefox as well as other web browsers which supported adblocking internally. There was a real chance of Chrome losing market share to this. Hence, they introduce now an "adblocker lite" in Chrome hoping to stop losing more Chrome users.
  • It's time for President Trump to get out his trust-busting stick. Break up Alphabet!

    Android - separate company
    Chrome - separate company
    YouTube - separate company
    Gmail - separate company
    Search - separate company
    Advertising - separate company
    Maps - separate company

    Shut down the dangerous mad science projects. Shut down the wannabe-Skynet AI. Arrest the mad scientists and the executives that backed them.

    Break up Alphabet now! Stop Google before it's too late!

  • Cool, now we just need to reverse engineer how the checks are made, and write an LD_PRELOAD to convince chrome all the pages do not comply.
  • Perhaps a better summary. "In desperation to save their revenue stream, google tries to foist a dodgy Ad Blocker that lets them continue to display Ads"
  • So kinda like Opera, only years later and surely less effective (Google being an ad company).
  • How is this not an anti-trust violation?

    Google, a behemoth company, is using their dominance by blocking ads on third-party sites using the browser that they control, a browser that has 65% market share. The demand for advertising won't go away - it will just shift to Google Text Ads, meaning that publishers will have even fewer scraps to feed on.

    Given how shoddy that "Coalition for Better Ads" site is (404s on what should be their main content pages), I wonder if they are just a front organization for Goog

    • by tepples ( 727027 )

      The Better Ads Standards ban eight ad formats. Any publisher or adtech provider can avoid this ad blocker by not running ads in those formats. Compared to the analogous Acceptable Ads program [acceptableads.com] that Eyeo runs, the Better Ads Standards are far more lenient (allowing inline ads between the start and end of an article) and do not require the publisher to pay to whitelist a site. The reason AdSense ads don't get blocked isn't that it's run by Google but that AdWords doesn't sell ad space in those formats to adver

      • Not everything it bans are "formats". I would call these "formats" (which means a publisher can avoid them by not placing their code on the site):

        - pop-ups (other than exit intent pop-ups)
        - prestitials (with countdown on desktop or at all on mobile)
        - postitials with countdown
        - screen-height ads that appear as a float rather than inline, thereby pausing scrolling of the article behind it (a format that I haven't personally seen in the wild)

        These two are ad characteristics that cannot be directly controlled b

        • by tepples ( 727027 )

          These two are ad characteristics that cannot be directly controlled by the publisher via the placement of code:

          - autoplaying audio (other than preroll before relevant video)

          <video autoplay muted>

          - animated ads that include flashing elements

          If the publisher can approve or veto creative before it appears on the site, the publisher can veto creative incorporating flashing. If the publisher cannot approve or veto creative before it appears on the site, the publisher can switch to a different ad network or exchange, switch to publisher-hosted ad delivery without any network or exchange, or not use video as a format.

          As a publisher myself, I don't want to show such ads, but first, there is no option in a network that says "don't show animated ads with flashing elements"

          You could drop animated ads altogether. If your network doesn't allow that, you could drop your network an

          • > If the publisher can approve or veto creative before it appears on the site, the publisher can veto creative incorporating flashing. If the publisher cannot approve or veto creative before it appears on the site, the publisher can switch to a different ad network or exchange, switch to publisher-hosted ad delivery without any network or exchange, or not use video as a format.

            Online advertising no longer works like that. It is all programmatic. No publisher personally approves programmatic creatives, th

            • Online advertising no longer works like that. It is all programmatic.

              By "programmatic" do you refer to it having become standard practice to run nonfree scripts [gnu.org] on viewers' computers to perform large-scale surveillance of viewer's browsing history across multiple unrelated websites? If so, then perhaps online advertising needs to cease being programmatic in this way.

              I couldn't find anything in Google's DFP (most popular ad serving tool) that says "don't show flashing animation".

              Is there anything saying "report this ad for standards violations, such as inaccessibility to viewers with a seizure disorder"?

              No one sells ads directly on their sites to advertisers, that is not a viable model because advertisers want to get their message out to a variety of sites instead of "sponsoring" one or more pages on a single site.

              Publishers of newspapers and magazines never printed ads customized to each individua

  • Very nice. Google just gave themselves more leverage in dealing with advertisers. Big win for them.

    Oh wait! I got the wrong message.

    Google is so fucking awesome in how they think of the users of their browser. They block malicious ads for us! Thank you so much Google. You take care of us so well.

    Or it it back to what I first said and now Google has a mechanism to assure advertisers that a particular ad was definitely displayed so pay us more to show that ad.

    No no no. I must be a good person and thank Google

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