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Uber is Exploring Autonomous Bikes and Scooters (techcrunch.com) 76

Uber is looking to integrate autonomous technology into its bike and scooter-share programs. Details are scarce, but according to 3D Robotics CEO Chris Anderson, who said Uber announced this at a DIY Robotics event over the weekend, the division will live inside Uber's JUMP group, which is responsible for shared electric bikes and scooters. From a report: The new division, Micromobility Robotics, will explore autonomous scooters and bikes that can drive themselves to be charged, or drive themselves to locations where riders need them. The Telegraph has since reported Uber has already begun hiring for this team. "The New Mobilities team at Uber is exploring ways to improve safety, rider experience, and operational efficiency of our shared electric scooters and bicycles through the application of sensing and robotics technologies," Uber's ATG wrote in a Google Form seeking information from people interested in career opportunities.
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Uber is Exploring Autonomous Bikes and Scooters

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  • by Locke2005 ( 849178 ) on Monday January 21, 2019 @02:31PM (#57997546)
    Wouldn't they, uh... fall over?
    • by AndyKron ( 937105 ) on Monday January 21, 2019 @02:39PM (#57997620)
      Where have you been hiding? Google figured this out years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
    • You'd think that you could include sensors that would allow it to make adjustments to keep it upright, much the same way that a person will naturally do this while riding a bicycle. I'd be more worried about the person riding it feeling disconnected from these adjustments and falling off or feeling discomforted instead.

      If they're looking for a smaller vehicle, why not build something more like an auto rickshaw? There are plenty of times you need multiple passengers and these do take up a lot less road sp
    • by Rick Schumann ( 4662797 ) on Monday January 21, 2019 @03:03PM (#57997808) Journal
      This is literally the most ridiculous thing I've heard of in recent times. It HAS to be a prank, it CAN'T be real.
      • I don't know. Pretty much everything I have heard from the "autonomous" people is ridiculous. It is like they aren't seeing reality. Reality is that autonomous navigation is very hard, and might be impossible to do. What we have now is basically lane assist and braking/following assist, which is great, but not enough.
        • by Anonymous Coward

          fully autonomous navigation and travel, and SAFELY, absolutely requires dedicated transit ways that are completely locked down so that NOTHING foreign can enter the system.

          no computer regardless of how many sensors it has at its disposal, regardless of how accurate mapping is, can cope with the literally infinite scenarios that could arise when dealing with people, wildlife and other things in our world. it's a pipe dream that cannot be realized with current or even upcoming near-future tech. impossible.

          not

          • >no computer regardless of how many sensors it has at its disposal, regardless of how accurate mapping is, can cope with the literally infinite scenarios

            Obviously that's not true - the computer between our ears does a good enough job, if far from flawless. Our more primitive artificial computers just aren't really up to the task yet. Or perhaps more accurately, they fail in scenarios completely unlike those that we fail in. Which is not surprising considering they operate in a completely alien manner,

        • It will take a generation to achieve full vehicular autonomy, but unmanned return of bikes and scooters is a valid and safe usage for the early-stage tech we have now.

      • by mjwx ( 966435 )

        This is literally the most ridiculous thing I've heard of in recent times. It HAS to be a prank, it CAN'T be real.

        I've figured out that Uber wen't to the same school of marketing as Ryanair.

        1. Make incredulous statement to get name in the media.
        2. ?????
        3. Free Marketing.

        I couldn't write Profit there whilst Uber seem to be copying Ryanair's marketing, they aren't following Ryanair's ability to make money.

    • "Wouldn't they, uh... fall over?"

      Fall over like a Segway you mean?
      Those only fall over when granny is standing on it, alone it's quite OK.

  • by AndyKron ( 937105 ) on Monday January 21, 2019 @02:33PM (#57997558)
    I'm waiting for autonomous shoes that walk over to me and put themselves on.
  • Why? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Bobrick ( 5220289 ) on Monday January 21, 2019 @02:44PM (#57997666)
    Who needs this? Who is asking for this? What is the problem that this is trying to solve? I guess my point is what the fuck is wrong with these people?
    • Re: Why? (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      And why is everyone pumping this story?

    • Who needs this? Who is asking for this? What is the problem that this is trying to solve?

      A lot of people have been complaining about the fact that bikes and scooters are littering the landscape. This is a solution to that problem. So, lots and lots of people have been asking for a solution, and this is a potential solution.

      I guess my point is what the fuck is wrong with these people?

      Capitalism.

    • "When all you have is a hammer..."

      Give 'em some credit; sure, they're thinking with their asses... but it's all they've got.

      • Give 'em some credit; sure, they're thinking with their asses... but it's all they've got.

        . . . and they're doing it with other people's money.

        Extra credit, for sure.

    • by gijoel ( 628142 )
      Because Uber's business plan seems to be throw shit at a wall and hope that something sticks.
    • Who needs this? People who needs to go from Point A to Point B. Who doesn't have a bike of their own, or it is difficult to store it. (Street Apt on the 8th floor)
      Who is asking for this? People who wants services like Uber, but doesn't necessarily need a Car.
      What is the problem that this is trying to solve? Getting a Person from Point A to Point B, without having a Car, or paying for a physical driver, because it is difficult to fit a driver onto a scooter.

      Now this wouldn't work for me. And especially toda

      • I live in a big city with rental bicycles everywhere. I can't imagine someone just abandoning one of them somewhere instead of the designated stations. especially when your name is attached to the card that unlocked the bike in the first place. Seems the problem here is that the users are americans.
    • Who needs this:
      All the bike/scooters sharing companies

      Who is asking for this:
      All the towns/cities who have bike/scooter sharing programs.

      What is the problem that this is trying to solve:
      Bikes/scooters left/abandoned all over the place with no regards for pedestrians and other bikers.

      I guess my question is:
      What the fuck is wrong with you, dumbass?

    • What is the problem that this is trying to solve?

      Obviously you don't live in a metropolitan city where people are constantly complaining about electric scooters blocking the sidewalks and littering city streets.

      An autonomous scooter is the next logical step. Why look on your phone for a nearby charged scooter, and walk to it, when you can summon one to you instead? And when you're done, there's no need to think about where to park it; you step off of it, and it heads off to its next customer, or back to a

      • You're absolutely correct, I live in a big, metropolitan city where people aren't so fucking misadapted that they'd leave rental vehicles abandoned all over the place.
    • Who needs this? Uber

      Who is asking for this? Uber

      What is the problem that this is trying to solve? The problem that Uber does not make enough money to satisfy the greed of their investors and executives. Also that even externalising costs and breaking laws to reduce costs, Uber still isn't profitable. Malicious, amoral AND incompetent - that's Uber.

      What is wrong with these people? They are amoral profit seekers who want to make as much money as possible and have no problem with externalising costs as much as

    • by Ichijo ( 607641 )

      People who don't want their pizza getting cold because it's stuck in traffic.

    • by mjwx ( 966435 )

      Who needs this? Who is asking for this? What is the problem that this is trying to solve? I guess my point is what the fuck is wrong with these people?

      The problem with this is Uber's growing irrelevance. They need to keep their name in the news to detract from the fact that they're running out of money, losing hundreds of millions each quarter and are only left with the drivers who literally cant get a job at McDonalds.

      For Brits, this is basically what Michael O'Leary of Ryanair does. Every few months they'll announce something silly that will never get approved by any aviation authority like coin slots on the lavatory, replacing the co-pilot with a bl

  • with delusions of grandeur. Maybe if they waited for the technology to be commoditized they wouldn't be burning cash as badly as if they fed it to a bonfire heating their offices.
  • Now bikes can drive people into a lake instead of people dumping bikes there. Be nice to the machines or feel their wrath.
  • for autonomous cargo bikes for local deliveries.

    • It seems like a better idea then a Drone.

      But if the technology works correctly, it could solve a lot of problems with logistics. A lot of time is wasted with the delivery person handling the last mile problem. Because the delivery truck may have space for say 50 - 100 deliveries, and he is spending all his time in serial going from house to house. If these 50-100 deliveries could be on automated small cars, that have a 10 mile range (5 miles in and 5 miles back). A truck can stop at each town, deploy the

  • autonomous scooters and bikes that can drive themselves to be charged, or drive themselves to locations where riders need them.

    Where will they drive? On the road? On the sidewalk? Either way they would be a menace to cars and/or pedestrians. It's hard enough to see a rider on a bike, imagine dealing with a riderless scooter (basically a skateboard with tiny handle) zipping down a busy sidewalk or street. Then again, maybe the entire purpose of this is to get the rental devices to drive themselves from

    • by arth1 ( 260657 )

      I think they would be less of a menace. A riderless bike would presumably obey traffic laws and regulations, unlike a great many human bike riders who don't give a shit.

    • Then again, maybe the entire purpose of this is to get the rental devices to drive themselves from the private property where they are abandoned (or stolen), back to a public sidewalk where they can be retrieved by the owners without legal complications.

      Let me know when they can build one that can transform into a robot and kick the shit out of bike thieves.

  • I'll save them a bunch of money: this will never work. But that won't stop them from trying it and then giving up after spending millions.
    • Business failures, are not always overall failures. A lot of lessons can be learned from the attempt. I much rather see a company put in some risk and try something new, then just do the same old as before because doing something new is risky.

      Now if it fails, they may have spent millions, but they also have an interesting case study on why it had failed. Technology isn't up to snuff, not enough demand, gain valuable insight in customers needs. Just doing the research alone with marketing could cost a co

  • How much do I get to sue for when one of these runs into me?

    Seriously though, with enough sensors to not be a safety hazard, and an expensive lithium battery, these thing will become prized collectibles to hackers everywhere.

  • In Soviet Uber, Segway leans YOU.

    Self-righting scooters?

  • Everybody knows that. Just like sharks with freakin' laserbeams.

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