China Hacked Norway's Visma To Steal Client Secrets, Investigators Say (reuters.com) 49
A prolific espionage group, which the U.S. government believes is Chinese, compromised billion-dollar business service provider Visma in 2018, according to a report by Recorded Future, a threat intelligence firm. From a report: The attack was part of what Western countries said in December is a global hacking campaign by China's Ministry of State Security to steal intellectual property and corporate secrets, according to Recorded Future. China's Ministry of State Security has no publicly available contacts. The foreign ministry did not respond to a request for comment, but Beijing has repeatedly denied any involvement in cyber-enabled spying. Visma took the decision to talk publicly about the breach to raise industry awareness about the hacking campaign, which is known as Cloudhopper and targets technology service and software providers in order reach their clients. Cyber security firms and Western governments have warned about Cloudhopper several times since 2017 but have not disclosed the identities of the companies affected.
China doesn't know how innovate (Score:5, Informative)
Re:China doesn't know how innovate (Score:5, Insightful)
The West can innovate because the best and brightest raise to the top. China can't innovate because the most connected and people who put in most time-in raise to the top.
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The way I see it, 5G is more or less the last upgrade for a while. Whoever bags this one will make a lot of money on it. Huawei is practically giving their stuff away compare to what the western companies are charging. I work for a big telco... so big that Huawei rents about a thousand square meters of office space a few floors above where I sit to be closer to us. We'll are one of the world's largest customers for 5G and whoever
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There isn't much conformity in the West on anything
Yes...
and in the West hierarchy is one based mostly on competence.
No. That's nonsense. It's based mostly on nepotism.
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This is precisely what we said back in the 80s about the Japanese. Have you been to Japan? If the closest thing you can get to it is porn sites, they practically invented the term creative.
China is a HUGE country...it's full of creativity from top to bottom. Check out "Harbin International Ice and Snow Sculpture Festival" if y
Re:China doesn't know how innovate (Score:4, Insightful)
Do you have any evidence of anything being developed in-house in China that isn't copied? Even military technology is copied from the West, like laughable attempts to reverse-engineer stealth technology, that failed even after purchasing US wrecks from Pakistan for hundreds of millions.
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What China lacks currently is a competent management class. There is no shortage of highly intelligent individuals or hard working people, just the right type of person to push the envelope.
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It is not obvious to me that "after developing industry and copying technology" the next step is inevitable progression to original solutions. Do you have any evidence of anything being developed in-house in China that isn't copied?
It borders on an ethnic insult to argue that 1.4 billion people are incapable of coming up with something original. Even though they're short on political freedom they have lots of bright scientists and engineers. Take high speed rail [thatsmags.com] for example, they did import technology from France, Germany, Japan and Canada 15 years ago but it's now all in-house and they have 60%+ of the high speed rail in the world and 2+ billion customers per year. They have the world's longest HSR line, the world's fastest HSR line
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I have managed cross-cultural teams, and the idea that there is some kind of cultural determinism in innovation is nonsense. Put people under enough pressure and they will innovate, if their leadership is effective. Give a team ineffective leadership, and it will fail, no matter what the culture. The only difference is the failure mode.
An American team with weak leadership will devolve into a pack of passive aggressive prima donnas . A team of Indians (note qualification: India is a big place with many
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Why are there no consequences? (Score:2)
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Consequences for China because someone does something, China gets blamed, and no evidence is shown?
It's curious how these Iranian, North-Korean, Russian and Chinese hackers (or hackers from whatever country is currently on the agenda) always manage to leave their business cards behind them, isn't it? And there's always a "report" or "investigation" to inform the public about it, and then a stubborn denial to provide any evidence to the allegations.
What you see here is not how Chinese intelligence works. Thi
Hackers steal software secrets? (Score:1)
“Hackers working on behalf of Chinese intelligence breached the network of Norwegian software firm Visma to steal secrets from its clients” ref [reuters.com]
Any company that keeps secrets on a computer connected to the Internet deserves to be hacked and it would be a lot simpler and productive to infiltrate a spy into the organization.