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As Windows 10 19H1 Update Approaches, Microsoft Says Version 1809 is Now Ready For 'Broad Deployment' (onmsft.com) 58

We're now very close to the next semi-annual update for Windows 10, but Microsoft has just announced today that the version 1809 released last Fall is now the recommended version for all users. From a report: This is a new milestone in the troubled history of this major release, as Microsoft had to pause its public rollout after discovering a serious file deletion bug in October. "Based on the data and the feedback we've received from consumers, OEMs, ISVs, partners, and commercial customers, Windows 10, version 1809 has transitioned to broad deployment," wrote John Wilcox, Windows as a service evangelist on the Windows IT Pro blog today. We're now a little more than four months removed from Microsoft's re-released Windows 10 version 1803, and Microsoft previously admitted that it would be more cautious during the public rollout. According to AdDuplex's latest survey on more than 100,000 Windows 10 PCS, only 26.4% of them were running the version 1809 in March.
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As Windows 10 19H1 Update Approaches, Microsoft Says Version 1809 is Now Ready For 'Broad Deployment'

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  • After all, nothing EVER went wrong when MS tried this kind of thing before.
  • Join Us (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Based on the data and the feedback we've received from consumers, OEMs, ISVs, partners, and commercial customers, Windows 10, version 1809 has transitioned to broad deployment.

    Sounds more like a cult than a OS.

    My employer rolled out 1809 two weeks ago. No one was able to log in after that. Took a week to roll everything back.

    I told my boss I'm staying with Windows 7; all with known clean VM snapshots that I can roll back to in case of any compromise. Linux host OS. He can fire me if he wants, but I'm going to be able to work until then.

  • My main system is still on 1803. At this point, skipping 1809 and going straight to the Spring 2019 release probably makes much more sense.

    I'm assuming many others are in similar situations.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Sounds like a strain of med-resistant flu.

  • by xack ( 5304745 ) on Friday March 29, 2019 @12:33PM (#58353848)
    It would save a whole load of hassle if Microsoft just went straight to 1903 and put 1809 in the archives where Windows ME and Clippy got put.
    • That's 19H1. They're too embarrassed about their 03 releases coming out in month 04, and their 09 release coming out in month 11, rolled back and then decided to be ok in the month of....1903, I guess.

    • Not possible. Microsoft's update process is iterative with bug fixes brought forward. 1903 was built on 1809. If they didn't put the effort into fixing and releasing 1809 how would they find the bugs? It's not like they have a QA/QC team of their own. Skipping 1809 would just turn 1903 (now called 19H1 since MS can't keep to release dates) into the same shitshow.

  • If only... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by WoodstockJeff ( 568111 ) on Friday March 29, 2019 @12:40PM (#58353888) Homepage

    ... you could get security updates without getting "enhancements". Right after I fine-tuned my last Win10 installation to turn off all the things I did not want on the system, it updated and gave me more things to turn off. And I still don't know if the things that were actually broken were fixed.

    With having to periodically tell it NOT to do the Fall update, I fixed the updater the way a lot of other people do... By installing Linux. Of course, I went from having an intermittent finger print scanner to a completely non-functional one, but that wasn't a big deal. At least now I can log in without being online.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Like, you have to turn Search Indexing off again, look up autorunning crap and services. I ran O&O Shut Up 10 too, after downloading a newer version of it.

      It's a bit infuriating and you can make mistake or overcorrect thing.. on top of things not being fixable! For instance I can't get rid of SearchUI.exe any more (a Cortana process). I don't need it (I don't even run the MS start menu) and is basically unkillable.
      I disabled the Dolby whatever service (on a laptop). Took me a few days to realize the sou

    • Simple Solution. (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Isolate your Windows 10 system behind a firewall, and only use SOCKS proxying via your web browser or other apps to connect. Without a network gateway windows, even windows 10 can't connect out onto the network. If it gets to the point where it starts stealing your proxy credentials to exfiltrate data, don't configure proxy settings on it, keep it isolated and use a secondary computer for network access.

      It's not ideal, but this is the easiest way without a firewall that can block microsoft software from con

    • by antdude ( 79039 )

      It's not just Microsoft too. Apple and others too. I just want fixes! Not new features! :(

      • Honestly at this point, i think its just easier for these devs to make a new feature than fix an old one. Thats not when they are "fixing" things that were never broken in the first place! (every metro application, calc, paint, etc, have all gotten worse (when they even run...))

        I am not sure its even purposeful, but the result of being lazy. It takes me personally more effort to troubleshoot things than it does to just bang out a new feature, especially if it doesn't have to be perfect. Just meet some arbit

    • by Zuriel ( 1760072 )

      Windows 10 gave me the feeling that I was fighting with my computer to get it to do what I want. Like a shopping trolley with a bad wheel, it had nothing but disdain for my desires and insisted on steering itself into a shelf at every opportunity. It was a constant fight to force it to obey.

      I didn't want to spend time getting things to work on Linux, but I was spending time fighting with my own computer anyway, so I figured I might as well go with the one that isn't deliberately forcing it's idea of how I s

    • . At least now I can log in without being online.

      You were doing so well before you advertised to the world you have no idea how to setup a Windows computer.

  • Just sayin'. Especially in the case of Miscreant-o-soft.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Did they fix the problem where every update accesses the new drive letter they created and then incessantly tells me I'm out of space on this drive letter that I didn't make? If not, seems like low hanging fruit for their pajeets.

  • by King_TJ ( 85913 ) on Friday March 29, 2019 @12:47PM (#58353928) Journal

    I recently tried to upgrade an older HP Probook 4520s that originally came with Windows 7. Windows 10 worked just fine on it when I install directly from a DVD with build 1803 on it. But the upgrade to 1809 consistently crashed it, so it would begin booting normally but hit a black screen and total system freeze before you ever got to a login prompt. I tried all the tricks, like installing the 1809 upgrade from a bootable USB stick with that Win 10 build already on it. No go.

    I wound up having to tell it to postpone the 1809 upgrade for 365 days (the longest time period Windows 10 lets you specify), so the computer could keep working.

    I guess it'll be great if the next build addresses the issue and lets me just skip over 1809. But I'm not sure how much they care about specific, older laptops like this one - when HP themselves dropped support for it after Windows 8?

    • I've got systems on which the graphics driver appears to not support 1809, so become unusable, any that have upgraded have been rolled back to 1803.
  • I don't do Windows 10. Period.
    • same here (so far I avoid it)

      i just bought a new Lenovo Thinkpad (refurbished) with windows 7 on it, i skipped over a bunch of offers for thinkpads with windows 10 on it and on page three there was a few with windows 7 still in stock so i grabbed one while it is still available
  • by Anonymous Coward

    A new OS doesn't install - Fine, there are so many possible configurations of a PC, maybe no-one can write an OS that can handle them all.

    But then I want to know why - For Windows 10, I have to download a tool to read a 50-megabytes log file THAT CRASHES, and googling the errors numbers shown is USELESS.

    FIX IT MICROSOFT !
    HIRE A DEVELOPER, FFS !

  • by Anonymous Coward

    It has been my major enjoyment my entire life. Windows 10 repulse me so much that I can no longer play my favourite games so I do not play at all...

  • to burn an iso to dvd, (over 4 gigs)

    what microsoft needs to make is a netinst iso like debian does, it just has enough operating system on it to boot up configure the PC hardware including network configuration, then allow installing windows 10 from the internet
    • just has enough operating system on it to boot up configure the PC hardware including network configuration, then allow installing windows 10 from the internet

      This is Windows you are talking about - you would have to install the OS before you could install the Wifi drivers, but you would have to install the Wifi drivers before you could install the OS.

      Just stick to Debian and forget Windows.

    • You can use the Media Creation Tool to build a bootable USB stick for installing. Works much faster than a DVD.

    • to burn an iso to dvd, (over 4 gigs)

      So use a double-layer DVD, if you refuse to use a USB stick, or a SD card.

    • ... It's 2019 and you're using spinning media? What next? A complaint that it doesn't fit on less than 3200 floppy disks? Like seriously who has either a dvd drive or a blueray drive in their PC these days?

  • Plan B was to just switch the 8 and the 9 and call it a typo.

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