Windows 10 Makes Large Share Gains, While Windows 7 Declines Significantly (betanews.com) 122
An anonymous reader shared a report: It took quite some time for Windows 10 to overtake Windows 7, but it finally did it in December 2018, at least according to NetMarketShare's figures. In February however, Windows 10 actually lost share, while Windows 7 gained some, narrowing the gap between the two operating systems once more. In March though, roles were reversed, as Windows 10 made some big gains, and Windows 7 lost a sizable chunk of its share. In the month just gone, NetMarketShare shows Windows 10 going from 40.30 percent to 43.62 percent, a big gain of 3.32 percentage points. There is currently a gap of 7.11 percentage points between Windows 10 and Windows 7.
It is hard to avoid that downgrade (Score:5, Insightful)
But the numbers very clearly say what a large number of users think. If Windows was a democracy, the win10 party would _not_ win.
Re:It is hard to avoid that downgrade (Score:4, Interesting)
Had it not been for all the force "upgrades" the Window 10 share would be minuscule. Now Michysoft are having yet another crack at trying to force Win7 and Win8.1 users to "upgrade". While https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4099479/windows-10-update-history appears to suggest it's only another Win10 patch, the report from my WSUS server lists it as "Windows 7 and 8.1 upgrade to Windows 10, version 1809 x64 2019-03B, en-us".
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Good point mentioning windows 8.1. Note they are only comparing windows 7 to windows anal probe 10 and that is extremely misleading because it provides and extremely inaccurate image of how bad the anal probe is doing. You actually need to combine windows 7 and windows 8.1 and that reflects the true picture of how badly the anal probe is doing and why it 'KILLED THEIR MOBILE PHONE'. Windows anal probe 10, killed windows mobile, slaughtered it because people are sick of M$ bullshit and everyone knows it. Yet
Microsoft ABUSE (Score:2)
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I invite you to visit any midsize or large company and see if desktop computing use is declining.
"most people don't give a fuck about Windows" should be changed to "most people don't give a fuck about ANY underlying OS". One thing the Linux evangelists and supplicants have never understood is that people do not run OS's they run applications. Unfortunately the Linux ecosystem is littered with cheap knockoffs of applications you pay for. While some people can get along with "good enough" others are really no
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My guess is nobody else installed Windows 10, all the Windows 7 users just swit ched to Linux or OS X. That's the only way they could jump that quickly.
Re:It is hard to avoid that downgrade (Score:5, Insightful)
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He's flat out right.
Between Microsoft shutting down the Win 7 activation servers and OEMs no longer even selling computers with Skylake or older CPUs, the last generation of chip compatible with Win 7, it's simply not possible to buy a pre-made computer that comes with Windows and isn't Windows 10.
Kaby Lake chips are intentionally not backwards compatible just enough to break existing chipset drivers. MS is refusing to provide those drivers for older OSes.
So you go with Win 10 or something that isn't Windo
Oroborus (Score:3)
The Snake eats its own tail
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My guess is nobody else installed Windows 10, all the Windows 7 users just swit ched to Linux or OS X. That's the only way they could jump that quickly.
That's what I did. I switched to Linux Mint after the last 'security upgrade' from MS blew my Win7 machine off the net.
Sadly, I find that a lot of the Linux applications out there are minimally functional, have few config options, and don't support much (if anything) in the way of data import and export.
It wasn't too hard finding replacement apps that had the features I need, but it was a huge pain in the ass getting my existing data into them...super frustrating and time-consuming.
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Re: It is hard to avoid that downgrade (Score:2)
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Are you sure about that? I smell FAKE NEWS!
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macOS is based on BSD
So what? (Score:3, Insightful)
Why this is even news? Who cares?
Re:So what? (Score:4, Insightful)
people forced to use Windows 10 care. People still doing everything they can at work to hang onto their Win 7 that isn't (relatively speaking) the buggy bloated mess Windows 10 care
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It's a buggy piece of shit that bogs down PC compared to win 7
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They've been doing this for a couple of decades so well known.
LoB
Staying on Windows 9 (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Staying on Windows 9 (Score:5, Funny)
All my computers run on Windows 9, and I see no reason to upgrade. I bought licenses for a great price off some Chinese website.
You should have waited like I did. Everyone knows Windows 9.1 is the way to go. It had much higher ratings on Newegg.cn and Amaxon.cn. I feel like it's the 1990's again since they shortened .com to .cn. Everything has gotten so much cheaper. It's crazy how much that "o" and extra hump added to the n costs.
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So far, so good (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm very happy with Windows 7. It runs fast and stable on modern hardware.
I realize I'll eventually have to go with Win10, but only if I do a major hardware upgrade. Right now, my 6-year-old system does great with audio and video rendering, graphics, etc. I practice safe innertubing, and don't have malware problems.
The hot mess that is Windows 10 is just unattractive, and I won't hold my nose and plunge in until I absolutely have to.
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You think that Windows Vista was better than Windows 2000?? Why? Vista was a resource hog, and basically forced Microsoft to make Windows 7 a bug fix release for Vista.
Re:So far, so good (Score:5, Interesting)
Hopefully by 2023 when Win 8.1 goes EOL they will have replaced Nutella with someone that actually cares about making a good OS or I'll be having to jump to Google or Linux.
I was hoping Win10 would be that backtracking after Win8/8.1 and Metro/Ribbon/Store crap the way Win7 backtracked after Vista. But when Microsoft hasn't budged an inch for so long I don't think they'll start now. What annoys me is that nobody's really been gunning for the desktop. Both Apple and Google have been too busy fighting for the smartphone to really put any effort into dethroning Microsoft. I guess there's Linux but I like my AAA games. At least for now I'm going to sit still and watch if Apple will push ARM Macs or not, that could get interesting.
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Why would they replace the CEO producing record profits and who has grown the company to record size?
Is that like saying hopefully Trump will decide he isn't fit to be president and will just quit next week?
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Chances are loads will switch to Linux, because after so long, basic shit won't even work on windows 7 because the lack of releasing drivers or something stupid. Plus it will get really insecure over time, it is windows. And you will be vulnerable to all kinds of remote exploits web and IP based. Maybe even get owned on some wireless exploit because you can't get updated drivers or something. Once there's not enough users on windows 7 to justify. Hardware companies will stop making/updating windows 7 driver
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It has that reputation because most people don't even know how to create a boot disk. let alone have ever even tried it live. All we need is steam to keep pushing on the gaming side and that will bring the rest. Unfortunately it seems like games lead the development pack.
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I think that a lot of people will keep using Windows 7 until they can't get application software updates for it anymore, and then they'll go buy whatever $200 Windows 10 laptop they can find on sale at Walmart or Best Buy.
If you think that an average user can handle installing Linux and getting all of the device drivers working correctly on their 5 to 8 year old laptop, you're overestimating the average intelligence of an average computer user.
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Honestly, OS's like Ubuntu literally do ALL of that work for you now. And any 6-8 year old laptop that was good enough to not break by now most likely has ALL hardware drivers for it in mainstream kernel. Its to the point where I call Ubuntu 'Windows 10 of linux' And Mint 'Windows 7 of linux". And its not far from spot on.
Be honest, when is the last time you tried linux? And what issues did you have?
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I would check to make sure synaptics package is installed, and you should be able to access control of touchpad from your DE settings menu. I carry a wireless mouse around with my laptop because i cant stand touch pads.
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Or KDE, or Gnome 2, or MATE, or i3 OR OR OR. If you really can only complain about the user interface there are LOADS of others. I prefer KDE since forever.
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I know, I know, I'm still not done preparing. For some of the programs I use I still don't have a suitable Linux replacement, not to mention the lack of drivers for quite a few hardware pieces.
Windows 10 is a buggy, bloated mess (Score:4, Insightful)
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Because of people tolerating the buggy bloated mess.
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The main reason as I said, that people don't adopt it is because of your fear mongering "It doesn't work!! I have to learn things!!!" as if you've never had to learn how to use a tool. The UI is great, and you can even build your own if you have the skill. But people read through threads like this, and see all of this "LINUX IS HORRID!!!" spewed by people who have never even used it. Very off putting, kind of "Fake Newsey"
Re: Windows 10 is a buggy, bloated mess (Score:2)
Or they've worked in IT/IS for 20+ years and understand actual business requirements, despite their personal likes.
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So, you're saying IT staff are dumb enough to compare linux 20 years ago to windows experience today? Because that's basically what I see in this thread.
Re: Windows 10 is a buggy, bloated mess (Score:2)
No, I'm using it on my work laptop right now. I'd be a fool to deploy it to most workstations due to requirement. I've worked in environments of 2500+ vms with 10+ petabytes of storage. Racks and racks of blades and storage arrays. Hundreds of Windows and Linux desktops, lots of mixed use, best tool where it is needed. What is your enterprise work experience? How many test plans/ requirements docs/ policy docs have you authored?
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0, I'm just a nerd.
Re: Windows 10 is a buggy, bloated mess (Score:2)
It shows.
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So is Windows 7.
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The problem is that they run better on Win7.
Quite frankly, I have fewer crashes and more performance on a Win7 box I have that has worse specs than the Win10 one.
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Windows 10 is a buggy, bloated mess, but the simple truth is that Microsoft still has the desktop OS market by the balls.
Bloated perhaps, but I haven't really run into bugs yet. Mostly it's just that they changed how to do everything, and then further hid half those things so that it takes twice as many clicks to get to what you are trying to get to, all for no good reason.
Windows 10 sucks (Score:1)
Windows 10 is being forced onto the people, it's not like they have a choice of OSes when they buy a new computer.
Because we don't have a choice. (Score:2, Insightful)
I see absolutely no reason to move off windows 7 - and many many to stay. except the lack of security updates in future.
seems it was the last windows UI designed by someone who used the operating system - instead of some numbskull who thought a touch interface was suitable for systems without touch screens...
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Why are people using such old software? I'll give you one reason why.
I have a photo scanner which only has drivers for Windows XP through 7. I am not about to dump a perfectly good piece of equipment, which does the job perfectly, just because Microsoft wants to take more money off me.
I can imagine that out in corporate land, especially manufacturing, there are a lot of peripherals which don't have up-to-date drivers. Guess what OS will still be on those machines? Right, a version that does what is needed f