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Some Internet Outages Predicted For the Coming Month as '768k Day' Approaches (zdnet.com) 65

An internet milestone known as "768k Day" is getting closer and some network administrators are shaking in their boots fearing downtime caused by outdated network equipment. From a report: The fear is justified, and many companies have taken precautions to update old routers, but some cascading failures are still predicted. The term 768k Day comes from the original mother of all internet outages known as 512k Day. [...] Many legacy routers received emergency firmware patches that allowed network admins to set a higher threshold for the size of the memory allocated to handle the global BGP routing table. Most network administrators followed documentation provided at the time and set the new upper limit at 768,000 -- aka 768k.

CIDR Report, a website that keeps track of the global BGP routing table, puts the size of this file at 773,480 entries; however, their version of the table isn't official and contains some duplicates. A Twitter bot named BGP4-Table, which has also been tracking the size of the global BGP routing table in anticipation of 768K Day, puts the actual size of the file at 767,392, just a hair away from overflowing. ZDNet spoke today with Aaron A. Glenn, a networking engineer with AAGICo Berlin, and Jim Troutman, Director at the Northern New England Neutral Internet Exchange (NNENIX). Both estimate 768K Day happening within the next month. But unlike many network admins, they don't expect the event to cause internet-wide outages like in 2014. However, both Glenn and Troutman expect some companies and smaller, local ISPs to be affected. "I would be mildly surprised if there was any interruption or outage at any real scale," Glenn told ZDNet.

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Some Internet Outages Predicted For the Coming Month as '768k Day' Approaches

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  • At the current rate, all IPs will be consumed by routes, leaving nothing for devices.
  • FUD (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Luthair ( 847766 ) on Thursday April 18, 2019 @02:03PM (#58455500)
    How many people actually heard of 512k day before this post? I haven't, and if you search Slashdot's stories it was never posted here so I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the effect was minimal or invisible to the vast majority of users.
    • Re:FUD (Score:4, Informative)

      by afc_wimbledon ( 1052878 ) on Thursday April 18, 2019 @02:19PM (#58455606)
      From https://www.theguardian.com/te... [theguardian.com]
      As engineers around the world rushed to fix the problem, one internet traffic monitor reported that the number of routes suffering outages on Tuesday had doubled to 12,600. On a typical day outages normally affect 6,000 routes.
      So, as you say, not really sky falling.
      • by mlyle ( 148697 )

        Things like this end up to be boring, small problems because people worry about them and talk about them and outreach causes people to fix the problem before it happens or in a short time after it happens.

        If 512k route limits were ignored it would have been a much bigger problem. Or Y2K. Or whatever.

        (768k will be even less of a problem, because a lot of the affected routers have since been replaced with hardware with higher limits in the last 5 years).

        • Re:FUD (Score:5, Informative)

          by thereddaikon ( 5795246 ) on Thursday April 18, 2019 @03:21PM (#58455936)
          That's exactly it. People act like Y2K wasn't a big deal but that's mostly because 99% of the problem was mitigated beforehand. Most people's experiences with Y2K was some windows applications giving the date as 1900. But PC's were never the problem. It was all the old telecom switchgear, networking equipment and ancient mainframe applications still in use. The nice upshot of it all was the stuff that couldn't be upgraded was just outright replaced so it was a great opportunity to modernize a lot of systems that had been neglected.
          • by mlyle ( 148697 )

            :) I never understand people who assert this kind of thing.

            I mean, is the line of argument "Hey, with extensive mitigation effort, it was only a moderate problem--- so we shouldn't even have fixed anything!" ?

          • The nice upshot of it all was the stuff that couldn't be upgraded was just outright replaced

            That's not a nice upshot here. Becoming wasteful with hardware is one of the things that is holding back actually solving the problem, which is that IP addressing was never designed to be this fragmented.

            I kinda wish better hardware wasn't available. Maybe then we'd be having this conversation on IPv6 instead of on an old line which I had to pay extra for just so I could get an IP address that was wasn't stuck behind a CGNAT device.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      How many people actually heard of 512k day before this post? I haven't, and if you search Slashdot's stories it was never posted here

      Oh really now? How about this [slashdot.org]?

    • by Anonymous Coward

      How many people actually heard of 512k day before this post?

      Bill Gates has, and I think you know his feelings on whether it should be enough for anybody.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      You're falling into the same trap as the folks who said nothing happened on Y2K so it wasnt'a big deal. It was only not a big deal because of the work preparing for it in advance.

    • Y2K also wasn't a big deal. Mostly 'cause a lot of good people worked 24/7 to make sure it ain't gonna be a big deal.

      It's kinda disheartening, ya know? When you save the world (ok, with a bit less melodrama, when you allow every Billy-Bob out there to access his porn uninterrupted), you feel like you're on top of the world. Until you hear Billy-Bob say "well, crying wolf again?"

  • by tomhath ( 637240 ) on Thursday April 18, 2019 @02:47PM (#58455758)
    Actually, 644K should be enough, but who's counting?

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