Windows 10 Will Now Ask Before Installing Massive Feature Updates (zdnet.com) 87
An anonymous reader quotes ZDNet:
As Microsoft promised in early April, Windows 10 is gaining a new option that gives users better control over when its twice-yearly major feature updates are installed. That option is called 'Download and install now' and should help Windows 10 users avoid unintentionally accepting a feature update after using Windows Update to check for new patches. While clicking 'Check for updates' could mean checking for monthly or security updates, historically it's also triggered the installation of a feature update, which can be a major disruption...
Choosing to download and install when offered a feature update is taken as confirmation that the user wants that update. From that point on, the feature update can then only be paused for up to 35 days. By not clicking on 'Download and install now', the new feature update can be avoided so long as the version of Windows 10 currently running is supported and not nearing end of support.
Choosing to download and install when offered a feature update is taken as confirmation that the user wants that update. From that point on, the feature update can then only be paused for up to 35 days. By not clicking on 'Download and install now', the new feature update can be avoided so long as the version of Windows 10 currently running is supported and not nearing end of support.
Meaningless (Score:5, Insightful)
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Who cares if they "ask" when you literally can't say no.
" By not clicking on 'Download and install now', the new feature update can be avoided so long as the version of Windows 10 currently running is supported and not nearing end of support."
That's more of a right to remain silent than to say no. Fitting, really.
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The real question is... (Score:1)
Will MS will respect your answer, or will they keep asking until you say yes? History would point towards the latter.
By not clicking on 'Download and install now', the new feature update can be avoided so long as the version of Windows 10 currently running is supported and not nearing end of support.
[Download and install Now] [Close Window (and download and install now)]
Re: The real question is... (Score:1)
That wording sounds weird. I interpret that as saying when it is nearing end of support, you can no longer avoid the updates.
And when you click "No..." (Score:5, Funny)
Re:And when you click "No..." (Score:4, Funny)
It's not like there's a precedent for this unfair claim of yours.
Oh wait...
How? (Score:3)
when you click "no,"
Who says you can do that?
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The 'Cathederal' developers in Raymond's 'Cathederal and the Bazaar' essay were the GNU Emacs developers.
Just thought you should know.
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"The Big One" (Score:2)
This reminds me of back in the day Prodigy service updates that'd make you late to a chat room... their biggest download was eventually put behind a JumpWord before becoming mandatory.
What would be nice is if Microsoft bought some radio bandwidth from the FCC so there'd be a dedicated channel for Microsoft updates....
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I am puzzled what 'late to a chat room' means.
How about no to regular updates (Score:4, Insightful)
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I'm fed of my computers being rebooted in the middle of the night losing all my work. Windows 10 is not suitable for work that needs to be done over multiple nights. I guess people are too demoralized by the update process to take action against Microsoft.
You could save your work at the end of the night, just a thought.
Do you want to know why Microsoft forces updates on people?
They got really sick of having this conversation:
News:Another Internet worm is going around that exploits a remote vulnerability in Windows
Public:What the fuck Microsoft?!? Get your shit together!
Microsoft:We released a patch for this six months ago! People aren't applying the updates!
Which led to this conversation:
Microsoft:From now on, we will force people to update thei
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Not everything fits into the category of documents that need to be saved. There is all sorts of state that gets lost when the system reboots.
You might have an editor with hundreds of sourcefiles open. You might have a PDF viewer with dozens of pdf files open that you are reviewing. Or dozens of emails open that might be related to something you are in the process of working on. When the system reboots, all of this stuff gets lost, and you waste a bunch of time trying to re-create it all.
If I have advanc
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hundreds of sourcefiles open
I call BS on that. I usually have *MAYBE* a dozen or so. AND my editor saves my state when I close. I have focus.
If you have hundreds open I am going to say you have no clue how to actually develop anything and have little focus. Focus is what makes good software. There is no possible way you can find what you are looking for when you have hundreds of files open at the same time. My guess is you randomly walk around through code opening things and never clean your mess up.
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You could save your work at the end of the night, just a thought.
A large game download that takes 8-10 hours is often preferred to do at a time you are not needing your Internet bandwidth to be at its best. This can mean the end of the night when you are going to bed.
In this instance, "saving your work" is a 8-10 hour process, and having only the first few minutes of a 10 hour download isn't going to accomplish anything more than a reboot in the middle of it.
By the time you go to log back in to the computer so the download can resume (assuming the servers even can resum
Re:How about no to regular updates (Score:4, Informative)
Personally, I prefer the world where Internet worms aren't running rampant
I prefer a world where my dad doesn't call me at 9 on a Sunday morning telling me his Windows 10 system has barfed all over itself and won't even load. Shut down a day or so ago, turned on this morning and says it's restoring files but never restores anything.
So now I have stop by and either try to get a restore to work (restoring what, I have no idea), or reimage the machine and hope it doesn't do it again.
So fuck off with your, "We'll force those updates down your throat whether you want them or not, even if it kills your system."
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""So fuck off with your, "We'll force those updates down your throat whether you want them or not, even if it kills your system.""
Classy.
I continue to be amazed at the stories of how W10 crashes all the time. I have 2 heavily used kid systems, a media server, 2 laptops and my own PC that is used for games, coding and media conversions and is almost never restarted. I can count on one hand the number of crashes I've had across ALL of them. Have I run into stupid errors? Sure. But crashes o
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Maybe he should get some better tech support. If his system is barfing over itself then his current tech support guy must be some kind of moron.
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Personally, I prefer the world where Internet worms aren't running rampant
I am pretty sure that the Morris worm, the 'Internet worm' that probably tied up the largest percentage of the then extant Internet's resources, was an exploit of Sendmail.
I prefer the world where 'security police' aren't enforcing what binaries we are allowed to run on connected computers.
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Create this job in Task Scheduler to be run every 3 minutes:
shutdown /a
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Windows literally gives you a day notice before it will apply am overnight update and the option to select exactly when you want the update to be applied with a max delay of 30 days.
Maybe this "computer" thing is just too difficult for you.
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I guess people are too demoralized by the update process to take action against Microsoft.
Have you stopped using Windows? If not, well then, I guess it can't be that bad. I can't really say. I gave up on Microsoft platforms a couple of decades ago.
What? (Score:3)
No safe word?
No problem with SECURITY updates (Score:5, Insightful)
But 90% of the update is a collection of new, vulnerable "features" that I probably don't want.
Do I want an exciting [insert app type here] app added to my screen automatically? Dark mode? Improved Microsoft Chromedge? 15,000 new emojis? Better support for making my 4K monitor look like a smart phone? Better support for losing my data in the cloud?
Those are not security updates.
And, according to the stories I've read so far, I still have allow Windows to install a crap load of useless features to get to the point where I can tell Windows not to install any MORE useless features...
Which is why every Win10 machine I've bought eventually ran Linux.
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No Joke (Score:2)
8 hour update (Score:1)
I turned on a rarely used Windows 10 computer (only extra installed application is some apple sync program) and it installed one of the big updates - it took somewhere between 8 to 12 hours to get done - wtf are they doing? clonezilla can restore a complete linux or windows os in 5 to 15 minutes - Linux updates download and get done at a speed that makes sense - windows updates seem to just churn the harddrive (even during the download process) for no good reason for hours and hours - is it possible that th
Give me a choice (Score:2)