Trump Signs Executive Order Barring US Companies From Using Huawei Gear (reuters.com) 249
schwit1 shares a report from Reuters: President Donald Trump on Wednesday signed an executive order declaring a national emergency and barring U.S. companies from using telecommunications equipment made by firms posing a national security risk, paving the way for a ban on doing business with China's Huawei. The executive order invokes the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which gives the president the authority to regulate commerce in response to a national emergency that threatens the United States. The order directs the Commerce Department, working with other government agencies, to draw up a plan for enforcement within 150 days. The order, which has been under review for more than a year, is aimed at protecting the supply chain from "foreign adversaries to the nation's information and communications technology and services supply chain," said Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross.
Nobody is allowed to spy on US citizens (Score:4, Insightful)
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Nobody is allowed to spy on US citizens except the US government.
Uh.....
NO FUCKING SHIT SHERLOCK
You are implying that because your government does bad that it should be a complete free-for-all and therefore EVERYONE should be able to do the same thing to you?
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I think they are implying that you shouldn't buy US hardware either, if you like privacy.
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If you like China so much why don't you just move there? I hear they have gulag in the west for Muslims. Maybe you could get a nice spot over there.
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This isn't about spying, it's about the US being so far behind in telecommunications that anyone with 5G technology would leave them in the dust. The US doesn't even have 4G.... it has "LTE" which is like 3.5G. So the US telecoms whined and the government is obliging by making up this spyware story. Enjoy your slow data rates, America.
This is about the US having sat with its collective thumb up its collective butt assuming that its technological edge could be maintained by wrecking its education system, declaring a war on science, impoverishing its workforce, outsourcing jobs to other countries confident in the knowledge that God would not allow any other country to catch up with the US. Meanwhile the Chinese spent money on their education system, on all kinds of research and built up a competitive tech industry. The US is now trying to bully everybody in the US and all of what used to be the network of US allies before Trump took a sledgehammer to into turning Huawei into a commercial leper. The problem is that nobody's interested in doing that and that including a large number of US telcos.
Re:Nobody is allowed to spy on US citizens (Score:5, Interesting)
This is about the US having sat with its collective thumb up its collective butt assuming that its technological edge could be maintained by wrecking its education system, declaring a war on science, impoverishing its workforce, outsourcing jobs to other countries confident in the knowledge that God would not allow any other country to catch up with the US. Meanwhile the Chinese spent money on their education system, on all kinds of research and built up a competitive tech industry. The US is now trying to bully everybody in the US and all of what used to be the network of US allies before Trump took a sledgehammer to into turning Huawei into a commercial leper. The problem is that nobody's interested in doing that and that including a large number of US telcos.
Asimov wrote an article about anti-intellectualism quite some time ago. It is not a new problem, though it has gotten much worse. The new hybrid monster is you combine anti-intellectualism with tribalism taken to its sickest extremes, so that you can even manipulate educated people into having their minds conditioned to rationalize almost anything, if it is for the team.
The best thing for this EO is if companies ignore it, to whatever extent they can get by with. Let's force this mess into courts as fast as possible. If the US knows something real about Huawei gear then fine, but even then I fail to see how the president has any business making decisions for US companies that aren't involved in defence work. Right now I'm more than ready to believe this is more about protectionism and perhaps not providing backdoors for US agencies than I am to believe Donald Trump is telling the truth.
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> anti-intellectualism with tribalism
If the Chinese are top dog they aren't going to give a fuck about your view of "fairness".
The opposite of anti-intellectualism is well intellectualism, or, in other words, making rational decisions based on science and knowledge. The opposite of tribalism means isn't making decisions against the tribes best interest, it is ignoring noise that the tribe makes saying this must be the way it is done, unless it is supported by facts and reason.
In short fairness, or "fairness" is an irrelevant concept here, beyond the fact that you mostly ignore it. Decisions should be made on the merits and that is all. Of course on the merits can be inclusive, such that you consider at times rewarding past performance even if you suspect it is not necessarily indicative of future performance. Sometimes you do that because nothing works in a vacuum and be being seeing as "fair" you may be seen as a more desirable place to work, which itself will lead to better outcomes.
Basically for the most part the US should be a meritocracy, but instead is turning pretty much into a kleptocracy, particularly with respect to Donald J Trump himself. You may somehow think that having a gigantic narcissistic socipathic con job in power, that it benefits the US somehow, but last I checked when you built on unstable ground the house did not last, and I rather think a pile of shit is unstable indeed.
Re:Nobody is allowed to spy on US citizens (Score:4, Interesting)
Also, it makes things much worse for the US, because the companies so "protected" will now assume they can just continue their failing strategies.
Re:Nobody is allowed to spy on US citizens (Score:4, Interesting)
Also, it makes things much worse for the US, because the companies so "protected" will now assume they can just continue their failing strategies.
Yes, as much as the American right wing glorifies competition they sure don't like it when they themselves are being out competed and when that happens they don't start innovating and modernising they reach into the tool chest of protectionists everywhere and try to protect noncompetitive businesses from competition. European car makers are out competing the US ones? REGULATORY BARRIERS AND TARIFFS!!! Chinese network equipment manufacturers are out competing US ones??? REGULATORY BARRIERS AND TARIFFS!!! Wind and solar energy is completely out competing Oil and Coal? REGULATORY BARRIERS AND TARIFFS!!!
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The American left wing is also just potty with regulatory barriers and tariffs. The U.S. got where it was by being middle of the road. Now we have two groups tugging on it like a wish bone each expecting to win if they get the big bit in the middle. They are like the dog chasing the car, when one of them gets it, they won't know what to do with it except drag the U.S. further down the rat hole.
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The American left wing is also just potty with regulatory barriers and tariffs. The U.S. got where it was by being middle of the road. Now we have two groups tugging on it like a wish bone each expecting to win if they get the big bit in the middle. They are like the dog chasing the car, when one of them gets it, they won't know what to do with it except drag the U.S. further down the rat hole.
Yes, the left can be protectionist. However, I never thought that I'd see the so called US 'left-wing' being outdone by the Republican party on protectionism and tariffs. For all their protectionism, corruption andpork, when it came to their own electoral heartland, and their complete and utter inability to be fiscally conservative and achieve small government where it really matters, the Republicans used to be fierce proponents of free trade. Now they are outdoing the left in protectionism and setting up tariff barriers. Irony abounds.
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Read your history. Every group in power is protectionist, no matter what they preach at you.
I think that humans may not be up to running a civilization over an extended period of time. The US was relatively free as long as there was somewhere people could run to if they didn't like what the government/corps/power structure was doing to them. During the days of the '49ers a lot of the "miners" were fleeing from murder charges, families they couldn't stand, outstanding loans, and other things. But that he
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I think that humans may not be up to running a civilization over an extended period of time.
As a group, I agree to that. There are definitely people that would do well for everybody if placed in power, but these typically do not want that power and cannot get it anyways. The highest level you occasionally see these in power is as mayor of a small-to-medium sized city. The whole thing is made worse by the fact that humanity seems to be incapable to learn from history. Hence we seem to now be stuck in an fascism-free society-fascism cycle, with things currently and strongly going towards fascism. Ag
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Looks like it. There is basically "fucked up" and "more fucked up" to chose from in "leaders" with both sides competing to provide the latter. The US had a good run, but that is now over.
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The American left wing is also just potty with regulatory barriers and tariffs.
Traditionally, yes... and that's one of the reasons I don't think Trump is a real conservative. Yes, he taxes the poor to pay for the rich, but thats just self-interest. And yes, he plays to fears on race and religion, which is just his personal biases... but when you get down to it- he's an old fashioned leftist when it comes to his economics- high spending vanity projects, protectionism and very not laissez faire. He takes some of the extremes of both parties.
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Also, it makes things much worse for the US, because the companies so "protected" will now assume they can just continue their failing strategies.
Yes, as much as the American right wing glorifies competition they sure don't like it when they themselves are being out competed and when that happens they don't start innovating and modernising they reach into the tool chest of protectionists everywhere and try to protect noncompetitive businesses from competition.
Mistake number one - thinking that Republicans practice what they preach.
Let us now view exhibit number one. Republican President and moral leader Richard Nixon implementing wage and price controls.
Trump has a ways to catch up with Republican core dogma. But fear not.
As long as they can get the poor to think they are just "pre-billionaires" and get the religious right worked up about abortion, they are on the path to be the most socialist dissemblers ever.
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You've got a weird idea of "Socialist". What Trump is appears to be an oligarch combined with narcissism and amorality. I know that of that collection only oligarch is normally considered a political characterization, but you need all three to get a partially adequate understanding of him. If he thought he could get away with it he'd drop oligarch and aim for autocrat.
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You've got a weird idea of "Socialist". What Trump is appears to be an oligarch combined with narcissism and amorality. I know that of that collection only oligarch is normally considered a political characterization, but you need all three to get a partially adequate understanding of him. If he thought he could get away with it he'd drop oligarch and aim for autocrat.
Whoosh. You fixate on Trump, I take the action of the party in toto, along with the man who rules them and now dictates their every move.
They spend like drunken sailors, in a government/industry lockstep. They give us a juicy deficit, and they simply now looooove taxes. Because you can call it what you want, a tariff is simply a tax upon American citizens.
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Also, it makes things much worse for the US, because the companies so "protected" will now assume they can just continue their failing strategies.
Fear not citizen - we'll just increase our tariffs. Tariffs are the bedrock of the Republican free market.
After we get tariffs to 100 percent, all the profit are belong to us.
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It is the tip of the iceberg. Unfortunately, there are a lot of latent cases among engineers, developers, and even industry leaders.
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Yeah, okay, as someone who was there a decade ago when China was penetrating the biggest American company names you know and as someone who fought it, and is still fighting it, I can tell you authoritatively that you have no fucking clue.
That's what they said about the Japanese, back in the 1920s and 30s. I can tell you, quite authoritatively, that the while the Japanese were not above conducting industrial espionage (much like the US did before them and after) the Japanese got where they are today mostly by their own merits. The Chinese are simply retracing the road the US took and that the Japanese took after the US did. If you really think that everything China has achieved since the 1980s and everything it is today is solely based on stolen US technology I can get you good deal on a big iron tower in Paris that happens to be for sale right now, it's an excellent investment opportunity!
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Stolen, what a lie, it was given away by US corporations to break the backs of US unions. That technology was outsourced to feed the greed of US corporations. China did not steal it, the US gave it away and China then copied it. Too late now and the US is made to look worse and worse by incompetent foreign relations and diplomacy based upon arrogance.
The US provides nothing but a threat of war and China provides a promise of business, so serve the threat or reach for the promise. Want to know how bad things are watch this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] and pay fucking attention, the Government of China did and it was a warning to the US government. A promise of peace works better than a threat of war.
Re: Nobody is allowed to spy on US citizens (Score:5, Interesting)
Well in this case Huawei did develop 5G tech themselves, doing their own R&D and engineering. Nothing stolen, US companies don't hold the patents, Huawei do.
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I said nothing about the 80s. This is purely economics and I understand why China is doing this. Why spend billions on development when you can steal it for millions? No hard feelings, but fuck em, my job is to stop it.
The trajectory China is on today started in the 1980s, that makes decisions made in China at that time relevant. You are also still presupposing that everything China is today is based on stolen US technology. The US in its day used to raid European IP with wild abandon, it may have helped, but I don't think the US is what it is today because of that IP theft. That aside, what none of you xenophobic American right wingers has so far been able to explain to me adequately (they usually get flustered and try t
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Huawei doesn't exist were it not for stolen technology over many years, from the US and other countries.
If that's true, how do you explain the fact that Huawei's 4G tech is better than their competitors? If it's all stolen it would at least be equal.
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Huawei doesn't exist were it not for stolen technology over many years, from the US and other countries.
If that's true, how do you explain the fact that Huawei's 4G tech is better than their competitors? If it's all stolen it would at least be equal.
If you have all the knowledge of Ford, and all the knowledge of GM you could probably build something better, like a Toyota.
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If it is better, then it is at least equal, no?
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Possibly today. Originally Apple was a pioneer in many aspects of computer use. It's true they licensed the Mac ideas from Xerox Parc, but Xerox was resolutely of the opinion that it was a worthless idea. And if you go back a bit further they among the most effectively innovative computer companies.
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Huawei doesn't exist were it not for stolen technology over many years, from the US and other countries.
Well, that is what you get when you rely on an intellectual property laws giving you an edge while outsourcing a bunch of your production.
The locations where stuff is produced are the future locations where new stuff will be designed. And that is true even if the intellectual property laws would actually work to their full extent (which is not true at all in China).
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Huawei doesn't exist were it not for stolen technology over many years, from the US and other countries.
Well, that is what you get when you rely on an intellectual property laws giving you an edge while outsourcing a bunch of your production.
The locations where stuff is produced are the future locations where new stuff will be designed. And that is true even if the intellectual property laws would actually work to their full extent (which is not true at all in China).
Yes, a million times this.
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Huawei doesn't exist were it not for stolen technology over many years, from the US and other countries.
Glad we finally have a president with the nads to fight back. This ban is just another tool in the toolbox to effect some much needed change.
It doesn't fucking matter how they got to where they are now, IP theft or not. China has developed it's own tech edge on its own merits. Over IP theft? Sure. But we are talking 10-15 years of undeniable in-house development.
And in the meantime we in the US are like "gunz and Jesus will save the day."
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The US doesn't even have 4G.... it has "LTE" which is like 3.5G.
LTE is the only commercial realization of full-blown 4G, Mr. Anonymous Cowardly Idiot. Worldwide.
I'll take a cite to the contrary. Good luck.
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LTE isn't all the same though. It can be scaled. For example, in Japan you have been able to get 300Mb symmetrical on LTE since at least 2016. I've actually lost track of what the maximum is now.
That was always the plan with 4G, start smaller and keep upgrading to add more bandwidth over time. The problem is that most carriers just got the basic LTE working and then stopped investing, because all most consumers cared about was that it said "4G" on the box.
Re:Nobody is allowed to spy on US citizens (Score:5, Informative)
Right at the top of the Wikipedia article [wikipedia.org]...
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Spiffy. Now all you need to do is add citations, provide citations to specific portions of the the 3GPP Release and 8 and 9 documents, and establish that no U.S. carrier operates LTE Advanced within a geographically significant amount of cells, and you might
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Or you could do the simplest fucking thing in the universe and read the whole article he linked and see the part where the latest release of LTE Advance is still woefully under the 4G standard and it's expected to hit it for 2 more versions.
Always some dumbass around here coming in to educate us on shit the community has been bitching about since it was introduced. There was an article every other day about how LTE was not 4g on slashdot back when it was first rolling out.
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Or you could take your own advice and read the goddamned quote.
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By the way, I did. You did not. Read two sentences further:
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Ivan, you need to recalibrate your understanding of moderation, mod points, and karma. You're just a little off still.
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The ITU itself confirms [itu.int] that LTE Advanced is considered "4G". There's a case to be made for lesser versions though.
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So if LTE isn't 4G what is? and how fast do you think cell service is here?
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That said, if this was a bribe, it was done masterfully because while it might seem obvious, there is just en
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It is suspicious
I know, who would ever invest in a hotel right next to a new theme park.
Civil Discourse (Score:4, Funny)
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I'm so mad, I don't even know who to yell at!
F you! F Trump! F Huawei! F 5G! F the police. F the FCC. F the carriers. F everything about this story. I'm so mad, I can't even swear properly. F that.
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Wait, that's that place that is the new slashdot, right?
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I am sure this thread will be full of polite and civil discourse over this matter.
You posted on the wrong story. You meant to post this comment on the Tesla / Solar City story that’s two above this one.
Historic precedent does not look good. (Score:1)
But as a German, I got something insightful to add:
The bit that was the tipping point of Hitler and Napoleon getting into power, was when they created laws that enabled them to circumvent the rest of the government and make any laws they liked, stating threats to the country.
Aka these executive orders.
The next steps will be:
* Declare that anyone who disagrees, lacks patriotism, and is putting the country in danger. (Already in process.)
* Declare all Chinese and "Chinese-sympathisants" a danger themselves. P
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That because teachers really like meteorology. Like, a lot.
Posing a national security risk (Score:2, Insightful)
So, no more Cisco?
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No more Intel... no more Microsoft...
An emergency but not the type Trump is claiming (Score:5, Interesting)
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Running as an arm of the Chinese Communist Party simply makes the winner the Chinese Communist Party.
It doesn't change the loser, or the reasons for losing.
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Re:An emergency but not the type Trump is claiming (Score:5, Interesting)
Huawei isn't an arm of the CCP, that's just propaganda with no basis in reality.
When you cut through the bullshit and get down to the actual concerns raised by the security services, they are around a 2017 Chinese law that requires Chinese companies to cooperate with the government on spying. It's uncomfortably similar to laws in the US and UK requiring companies to do the same.
If you don't trust Huawei for this reason, you can't trust any US or UK company either. They could be operating under a National Security Letter and you wouldn't even know it.
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That's a false equivalency to draw between the US legal system and the Chinese government. We have National Security Letters. They harvest organs from prisoners. If you would prefer to trust the Chinese government rather than the US government, then go ahead but it's your funeral.
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I guess the most scary problem at-least for the very few who actually have the most money is if a socialist economy would actually do better than a capitalist one.
Could compare the Soviet vs US/Europe before but Russia got a port/geographical issue and maybe that was even more true for Soviet.
I'm definitely not saying non-capitalism and socialism is better. But if it did better ...
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Thus... Disproving the theory that capitalism is inherently better at innovation than communism? Was that your point?
No, it means that the Chinese do capitalism better that America because they are prepared to exploit their workers more than the U.S does.
Witness globalism's great race to the bottom. It exports labor, not labor laws.
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Karl Marx manifesto is flawed in many ways, stop quoting it.
Re:An emergency but not the type Trump is claiming (Score:5, Insightful)
It is quite simple. You splurge tens of billions on marvelous "tech unicorns" like Uber while things like telecoms are considered old hat. Patents in telecoms are valued less in the US patent system than rectangular shapes with round corners. Then, voila, the US loses its edge in telecoms. Not surprising at all.
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Indeed. And anti-competitive politics usually just make things worse and hasten the decline of those so "protected".
Re:An emergency but not the type Trump is claiming (Score:5, Insightful)
The real emergency is how the European and American telecom titans allowed themselves to fall so far behind Huawei in 5G development.
This is globalism at work. US and European companies exported competitive advantage to competing nation states to utilize exploitational labor laws in an effort to get an edge over commercial competitors.
In other words they didn't place any value on the knowledge they exported that they invested in creating. This is what happens when the people making decisions about knowledge are short sighted and greedy.
Look before you leap, for as you sow, so shall you reap.
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After Nokia-Siemens took over Alcatel-Lucent from Fran
big fucking deal (Score:2, Insightful)
Does China use USA built routers?
Uh not any more.
Why?
Because they don't trust foreign tech.
Re: big fucking deal (Score:1)
And so it is safe for Trump to Make This Bold Move To Protect Americans.
Re:big fucking deal (Score:5, Informative)
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It isn't the U.S., it is Trump. He's American in name only.
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Or because they have cheaper, better and domestic replacement.
Sweeeeet; gonna get some cheap gear soon (Score:2)
Land of the free...ish (Score:5, Insightful)
President Donald Trump on Wednesday signed an executive order declaring a national emergency and barring U.S. companies from using telecommunications equipment made by firms posing a national security risk, paving the way for a ban on doing business with China's Huawei.
I thought you guys in America were these rugged freedom loving individualists who didn't tolerate government getting all up in your business, but it turns out some New Jersey con-artist can just "declare" something and you all have to fall into line.
Weird way to run a country.
Re:Land of the free...ish (Score:5, Informative)
The news stories are very poorly written and as usual embellish the truth. Trump can't ban any US company from doing business with any other US company such as a Huawei subsidiary. The executive order states that the Huawei equipment can't be used for things that may be "deemed a national security risk".
Basically you can't use it for critical equipment (eg. a 911 call center or water supply etc) because it may have backdoors that the Chinese government may use in a war.
You can still buy Huawei and ZTE equipment of Newegg and Amazon, you just won't win any government contracts with it. The Chinese State was subsidizing government contracts for 5G deployment but also 10G and beyond network equipment.
I was bidding a small contract for a 10G deployment that HP, Cisco and other US companies were bidding at $100-250k. Huawei quoted $25k including flying a Chinese engineer on-site and a 3 year support contract. It was simply impossible, even if I did it all myself to just buy the hardware for that price, but the Chinese government subsidizes these contracts to get a foot hold into critical research and government infrastructure.
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STFU and go away (Score:1)
I'm so terribly tired of idiots parroting buzzwords. It's cringeworthy listening to copious quantities of rank nonsense frothing from mouths of politicians and talking heads who don't know shit about anything. 5G will change everything and completely transform society. 5G is more important than watts engine. 5G is the future. Just STFU already.
Blockchain!! Crypto currency!!! AI!!!! 5G!!!!
FUCK YOU!!
Oh and pro tip for those concerned about security and foreign spying. USE END TO END ENCRYPTION. Go
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USE END TO END ENCRYPTION.
This is not sufficient. Encryption and VPNs do little to protect you from malicious ISPs who can, and do, attach tracking headers to all of your packets, and if the equipment that the ISPs use is compromised then encryption and VPNs would do little to protect you from that equipment. Only regulation can protect you from that, regulation which was overturned in March of 2017 [eff.org].
This whole Huawei thing certainly seems like overblown fear-mongering, a symptom of Trump's inability to negotiate in a civilized wa
Too bad it wasn't Apple instead (Score:2)
I mean if you're going to ban a company that manufactures in China for made-up reasons, you might as well make it lulzy.
That does not look good (Score:3)
Anti-competitive and anti-market politics usually heralds a collapse of those so "protected"...
Tiananmen Square (Score:1, Troll)
I'm sorry, but with something as Important as Communications Infrastructure, I don't think we can just dismiss it as "Trump is just 'Protecting' American businesses". If there is doubt, it's better to find an alternative.
You don't install a program that some claim it has a bitcoin miner just because you think they are dumb.
Remember that we are dealing with Huawei, a big company (like those you love to hate), but a big company that is in bed with the one of the worst, most corrupted and authoritarian governm
My next phone... (Score:2)
...is going to be a Huawei. Take that, you cheeto-coloured man-child.
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Wai yu watch so much pern on phone? Xi say you weird!
Simple, the internet is for porn, thus internet enabled phones are for porn and Asian chicks are smokin' hot.
Pro tip (Score:1)
Open source and reproducible builds are a way out (Score:4, Insightful)
'round bufferbloat.net we did produce one really trustable router in the cerowrt project, which was 100% open source top to bottom, which serves as an existence proof - and certainly any piece of gear reflashed with openwrt is vastly better and more secure than what we get from the manufacturer - but even then, I always worried that my build infrastructure for cerowrt was or could be compromised and took as many steps as I could to make sure it wasn't - cross checking builds, attacking it with various attack tools, using vms, etc.
"Friends don't let friends run factory firmware", we used to say. Being able to build from sources yourself is a huge improvement in potential trustability - (but even then the famous paper on reflections on trusting trust applies). And so far, neither the open source or reproducible builds concepts have entered the public debate.
Every piece of hardware nowadays is rife with binary blobs and there are all sorts of insecurities in all the core cpus and co-processors designed today.
And it isn't of course, just security in huawei's case - intel just exited the business - they are way ahead of the US firms in general in so many areas.
I have no idea where networked computing can go anymore, particularly in the light of the latest MDS vulns revealed over the past few days [lwn.net], I long ago turned off hyperthreading on everything I cared about, moved my most critical resources out of the cloud, but I doubt others can do that. I know people that run a vm inside a vm. I keep hoping someone will invest something major into the mill computing's cpu architecture - which does no speculation and has some really robust memory and stack smashing protection features [millcomputing.com], and certainly there's hope that risc-v chips could be built with a higher layer of trust than any arm or intel cpu today. (but needs substantial investment into open on-chip peripherals)
Another national emergency (Score:2)
The news here isn't really about Huawei. It's about Trump, again, declaring some kind of national emergency, and about how the short-cited congress passed stupid laws granting the president inappropriate powers. We've fortunately had classy-enough presidents that they really didn't invoke these overblown powers. But Trump uses them for whatever BS agenda he has - building a border wall, or punishing a company that won't play by his rules.
The Republicans were rightfully upset when he did this with the bor
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When you are an assberger brain like you reading is difficult!
Fortunately people with Aspergers are by definition intelligent, which makes it easy for us to write intelligible sentences.
What's your excuse?
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