CES 2020 Will Allow Sex Toys But Crack Down On 'Sexually Revealing' Clothing (theverge.com) 183
The Consumer Electronics Show will allow sex toys to win awards and be presented on the show floor next year under the show's health and wellness section. "The Consumer Technology Association, which runs the show, says they're being included on a 'one-year trial basis,' meant to assess how they fit into the category," reports The Verge. The group is also cracking down on "sexually revealing" clothing. From the report: The CTA is also updating the dress code policy for CES in an attempt to further crack down on companies hiring models to wear revealing clothing as a way to bring visitors to their booths. This kind of behavior has generally been banned already, but the CTA is now adding a punishment for violators: they risk losing rank in a tenure system that helps them attain a good position on the show floor. The new rules say that companies can get in trouble for outfits that are "sexually revealing or that could be interpreted as undergarments." If clothing reveals "an excess of bare skin" or "hugs genitalia," it will be banned as well. The guidelines apply to all staff. Pornography will remain banned on the show floor. The CTA says the ban will now be "strictly enforced with no exceptions," whereas some has slipped through in previous years.
CES has maintained confusing policies around sex tech for years, and those rules have never seemed to be evenly enforced. Some companies, like the sex toy company OhMiBod, have been able to find a place on the show floor for years; others, like the porn studio Naughty America, have been able to show VR demoes in private booths. But the show's policies have seemingly prohibited all of this, and it's meant that other companies interested in showing their sex-related products have been unable to present at the enormous annual convention.
CES has maintained confusing policies around sex tech for years, and those rules have never seemed to be evenly enforced. Some companies, like the sex toy company OhMiBod, have been able to find a place on the show floor for years; others, like the porn studio Naughty America, have been able to show VR demoes in private booths. But the show's policies have seemingly prohibited all of this, and it's meant that other companies interested in showing their sex-related products have been unable to present at the enormous annual convention.
"Health and Wellness" (Score:3)
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yea that sounds just about right... :P
In some countries it's illegal to claim snake oil and charlatanism has an actual effect on your health... So they started calling it "wellness" instead, that way they don't have to back up their claims with accurate data nor do they have their products regulated.
Re: So... (Score:5, Insightful)
CES isn't "stupid", it is pandering to its, err, "stakeholders".
It is your society that is full of fake prudes, starting with your very own president, who isn't shy about "grabbing a pussy" or hiring a lawyer to bring a porn "star" prostitute to him for the daily extramarital fucking, but complains about the "shouting of the f... word".
You want to "fix" things? Give up the hypocrisy.
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Trump is the last person I'd think of as the word police
Really? The guy who calls everything critical of him "fake news" and keeps complaining about people not showing him proper respect isn't trying to police what people say?
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Oh puhlease prudes have predated SJWs by several centuries. It's not the SJWs wearing outfits that cover their ankles.
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You don't need a middleman to help you have sex. You don't need to use force either. If you think you do, you should seek help.
Well that settles it. (Score:5, Funny)
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I'm thinking some competing show will arise, that will allow skimpy clothing / bathing suits in booths, and CES will be left in the dust.
Hot "models" have been selling things for quite some time, whether booze at the medieval tavern or later the fashion models of the 1850s... maybe the feminazis and SJW should just be shunned and marginalized as abnormal humans, the rest of us like it.
Re: Well that settles it. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re: Well that settles it. (Score:1)
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It's no accident that they've been used to sell pretty much all types of products and services.
Interestingly, they don't. Watch closely, and you'll see that alcohol, perfume, and ads for TV shows will use scantily clad women to sell, but many other products don't, because it doesn't really work.
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Interestingly, they don't. Watch closely, and you'll see that alcohol, perfume, and ads for TV shows will use scantily clad women to sell, but many other products don't, because it doesn't really work.
In the US. Pictures of half naked pretty girls are used to sell all kinds of random household products in societies that aren't as prudish as the US. That includes Mexico. Gabriel Iglesias even has a bit about it in one of his comedy specials.
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Interestingly, they do.
Many countries have full nudity for ads, because it sells certain products.
Your prudish world only exists between your ears. The rest of us LOVE it and will go to booths to see skin.
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I will not be going to CES 2020.
Is CES still even a thing?
I'm not one to give into frothing at the mouth "WSJ" (or whatever non-insult is bandied about these days) ranting, that's for angry, 300 pound incels in their underpants on Twitter... However I thought that CES stopped being important and most vendors started to care more about MWC or other trade shows. Is CES just trying to get someone to care about them again, even if it's negative?
Money and sex always find a way (Score:2, Interesting)
All this ban will do is encourage women to wear sluttier makeup and advertise sexuality and sexual availability in different ways. Men will pick up on the signals. I'm an escort and this is my job and my job to know this. I have worn a conservative skirt suit for meeting clients with the right tweaks to my appearance and greeting their raging erection pressing against me doesn't lie. An event covers travel and accomodation expenses. This makes working an event for business stress free.
Re:Money and sex always find a way (Score:4, Insightful)
I have worn a conservative skirt suit for meeting clients with the right tweaks to my appearance
Yeah, well, you've already got your client. You're just trying to make them happy (aka repeat customers) at this point. Different from trying to signal that you're in that market, and both are different from what the booth babes are supposed to accomplish. They're supposed to bring in revenue for the company doing the display, not for themselves.
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Since when did you or anyone else dictate what site I visit? I've been reading Slashdot for years and it's a shadow of its past.
You have no idea how escorts work or what escorts get up to. The less you know the better if this is your attitude.
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I don't know about him, but I actually do know a lot about how prostitutes work. It wouldn't surprise me if a significant number of prostitutes read Slashdot, they come from all different walks of life and do it for different reasons. That said, I don't think you're a real escort, since you don't seem to understand how it works. There are a number of flaws in what you're saying:
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Since when did you or anyone else dictate what site I visit?
English isn't your first language is it? Do you not understand the GP's post or do you not know what "dictate" means? Either way we can help you with that if you let us know where you went wrong.
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I find it very strange
You just don't understand how much money furries spend on their hobby.
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Yeah, and Ai Iijima was smart and driven, Mimi Miyagi (aka Melody Damayo) is a geek and ran for state governor, escort blogger/author Belle de Jour turned out to be pediatrician Brooke Magnanti. Sex industry takes all types
New opportunities (Score:2)
Just think on all the sorts of burka gadgets they will be able to show at the event!
So much for booth this year. (Score:2)
I was going to introduce the idea for 2020.
The Connected Crotchless Jockstrap.
Will my time finally come next year?
Re:So much for booth this year. (Score:5, Funny)
I was going to introduce the idea for 2020.
The Connected Crotchless Jockstrap.
Does it uses AI and blockchain? Because if so, I would like to invest.
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I'm out unless it's powered by the cloud to allow for an immersive augmented reality environment.
God bless Puritania... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Sorry Ivan, breastfeeding in public is completely normal in America.
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Fuck off, Ivan.
I'm not "phobic" of the enemy at all.
Learn English. Being opposed to you is not the same as being afraid of you.
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Re:God bless Puritania... (Score:4, Informative)
You can always go to a strip club after the show, horny guy.
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They're not banning attractive people, they're banning companies from exploiting women and men by putting actresses in softcore porn garb just to sell a mediocre smart TV. It's not rocket science unless you haven't paid attention to any cultural developments since the 1960s. I don't really know why it's "confusing" to allow sex toys but ban pornography, either. The fact this is on Slashdot with this slant shows what a backward bunch of sex-obsessed nerds you lot really are. If you need to see actresses
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The women aren't being forced into it. Being paid good money to model, nude, half-clad, or otherwise isn't exploitation, no matter what the Puritans yammer about.
The Left will complain because it is exploitative to women and done for the male gaze. The Right will complain because those damn females are using their wiles on the pure men. Both sides are authoritarian in different ways, personal choice be damned.
I just feel sorry for the models because it ain't easy work.
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We seem where this lead, many, many, many, many times.
Starts with "it's just the booth babes" and then suddenly, everyone is in a burka.
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.
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This has to be a joke. You can't be serious.
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I does make me wonder where exactly the booth babes would go if left out of control.
Oh, wait. This is the US...
Re: God bless Puritania... (Score:2)
So are you a a conservative Christian trump supporter or a progressive sjw supporting totalitarian 'inclusivity'? I ask because, these days, it is hard to tell the difference.
Re:God bless Puritania... (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not Puritania, it's feminism. Sex toys are allowed because these sex toys are used by women and refusing to sell them is an affront to feminists. Revealing clothing is prohibited because revealing clothing is considered sexist by feminists. It seems less strange that one sexual category is restricted and another isn't when you consider who's actually behind it.
If it had anything to do with puritans, they would be prohibiting both sex toys and revealing clothing, rather than having a double standard depending on whether one is for women and one is for men.
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So close, but so far...
Sex toys aren't using people's bodies to sell unrelated products. And actually, as a feminist, I find the blanket "no exceptions" porn ban to be a bit much - as well as excluding sex workers, porn tech could be very empowering for a lot of people who aren't currently served by it.
Re:God bless Puritania... (Score:5, Insightful)
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They don't actually define what pornography is, but I very much doubt an erect nipple will count.
Aside from anything else, half the male nerds there would get booted out if it did.
Seriously (Score:4, Insightful)
So now that Dildos and vibrators for women are allowed indeed an apparent step in the direction, and that there will be severe limitations on models at the show "“sexually revealing or that could be interpreted as undergarments.” If clothing reveals “an excess of bare skin” or “hugs genitalia,” it will be banned as well.
Umm pretty sexist stuff there. Do these people not notice leggings, which are worn by women all around? Hell, you can tell if women have had wax jobs!
If this was supposed to be inconsistent AF, they have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
Re:Seriously (Score:5, Insightful)
There is no limit on what women can wear "all around."
The limits are only for models.
It is a technology convention. There is no good reason for the models to wear sexualized clothing.
There is no double standard in having a dress code for workers, but not for everybody else. That's having one standard, that only applies to people under the control of the standard.
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It is a technology convention. There is no good reason for the models to wear sexualized clothing.
Yes, there is. It attracts attention in the (it's a technology convention!) predominently male crowd. And guess what, getting attention is what it's all about (it's a convention!).
What you want to say is that there's no logical or rational or unemotional reason. You just ignored the fact that we are not actually logical animals.
What this actually is is the organizers drawing an arbitrary line and saying "this is the kind of convention that's in my head, please don't deviate beyond that line". And they can d
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But they also have an ideological belief that male sexuality is violent, evil, oppressive and should be curtailed at every available opportunity.
I know. Funny, isn't it? We know for a fact that suppressing a healthy emotion is one of the primary causes for that emotion to be expressed violently...
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They are actually making efforts to get more women to attend, so it isn't a predominantly male crowd.
Unfortunately TFS didn't bother to link to the actual press release which talks about that: https://www.ces.tech/News/Pres... [ces.tech]
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They are actually making efforts to get more women to attend, so it isn't a predominantly male crowd.
The first part of that sentence contradicts the second part. In fact, that it actually is a predominantly male crowd is exactly the reason why they are making efforts to get more women to attend.
And yes, one of those efforts might be making the boob babes less like porn stars. Though honestly, many of the women I know enjoy looking at beautiful bodies (male and female) as much as any guy. Maybe that's a selection bias, I have lots of queer, bi or open relationship type friends.
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It is a technology convention. There is no good reason for the models to wear sexualized clothing.
Yes, there is. It attracts attention in the (it's a technology convention!) predominently male crowd. And guess what, getting attention is what it's all about (it's a convention!).
What you want to say is that there's no logical or rational or unemotional reason. You just ignored the fact that we are not actually logical animals.
What this actually is is the organizers drawing an arbitrary line and saying "this is the kind of convention that's in my head, please don't deviate beyond that line". And they can do that, it's their show after all. My home, my rules. But let's stop pretending everyone is an idiot and doesn't understand that sex sells.
Now the question is that Sex Toys are a good thing to have at this convention - I wonder if Harmony https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] Is allowed. Or is this just masturbatory devices for women?
I suspect a howl of indignant outrage will issue from people. How dare they allow such a thing to be at the convention?
Aiglearch - Explain! Sow us the consistency here.
If any issue of sex or sexual arousal or interest is to be eradicated from the show - hey - they can require people to walk around in bedshee
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Who says it does not belong there
The people whose event it is, dipshit. That's what the story is about.
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There is no good reason for the models to wear sexualized clothing.
I am explicitly turned off by booth babes; however, booth babes exist for the same reason that ads for perfume and underarm deodorant have sexy models.
Sex sells. That trade show is all about selling. Do you really expect the people selling stuff not to use every tool in their arsenal?
Ultimately, this situation only exists because of the hypocrisy of Puritanism. It denies that the human exists.
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No, no, the hypocrisy is only in your statement. First you blather about advertising and using tools "in their arsenal."
Then you skip over whose event it is and who determines what tools are available.
Then you whine about Puritanism, and even claim that taking away your booth babes is dehumanizing. It's fucking pathetic.
If the event allows naked models, advertisers will hire naked models. That does not in any way imply a moral argument for forcing conventions to allow naked models.
Try shaving.
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There is no limit on what women can wear "all around."
The limits are only for models.
It is a technology convention. There is no good reason for the models to wear sexualized clothing.
There is no double standard in having a dress code for workers, but not for everybody else. That's having one standard, that only applies to people under the control of the standard.
So a model cannot wear what any other woman entering the place can wear.
First off, are you accusing the other women of sexualizing their presence at the event? Why is it acceptable for a woman to come into the event wearing leggings that clearly outline the shape of her vagina, and that is just fine, but a model is judged as unacceptable for wearing the same thing? If a model is sexualizing yet an attendee isn't. Explain.
In other words, a woman attending can wear an outfit that a model wore the previou
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First off, are you accusing the other women of sexualizing their presence at the event?
When are you going to stop beating your wife, asshole?
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First off, are you accusing the other women of sexualizing their presence at the event?
When are you going to stop beating your wife, asshole?
Bravo - so original. So witty. Thanks for illustrating that you have no ability to debate or even discuss.Someone dares challenge you and you lose it. Sorry about that - If you want to make this a battle of wits, ya gotta do better my friend.
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How about reading the actual press release: https://www.ces.tech/News/Pres... [ces.tech]
Note that allowing sex toys is a one year trial, and that the toys must be "innovative" and use "new or emerging tech" to get in. It doesn't specify that they have to be female sex toys, male ones are allowed too.
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How about reading the actual press release:
I guess I managed to quote from the press release while not reading it, amirite? I read it. It is designed to be more attractive to women of a certain outlook, who are damaged by anything male. I mean read it.
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Note that allowing sex toys is a one year trial, and that the toys must be "innovative" and use "new or emerging tech" to get in. It doesn't specify that they have to be female sex toys, male ones are allowed too.
So you approve of having the RealDoll Harmony there? A fleshlight? A fleshlight is a little goofy, but I'm trying to figure out exactly how much innovation can be placed in a Dildo. Harmony is l orders of magnitude more innovative.
And if you do think it should be allowed, do you think that it shou
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I think your two examples of sexy toys would fail to pass the "innovative" and "new or emerging tech" tests.
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I think your two examples of sexy toys would fail to pass the "innovative" and "new or emerging tech" tests.
You are saying that the dildo is more innovative than a new generation real doll? Explain.
The thing talks. Does your dildo talk?
Sexism is not a male only thing. Denial of that is usually sexism. And going through the press release, it is pretty darn sexist,
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"You are saying that the dildo is more innovative than a new generation real doll?
The thing talks. Does your dildo talk? "
I just re-read that. This is some hilarious stuff, two adults arguing about sex toys and talking dildos......
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You are saying that the dildo is more innovative than a new generation real doll? Explain.
The thing talks. Does your dildo talk?
This, of course, brings us to the obvious question: If they start making sex dolls that can talk, do you think the new CES rules will allow them to be dressed in suggestive clothing?
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You are saying that the dildo is more innovative than a new generation real doll? Explain.
The thing talks. Does your dildo talk?
This, of course, brings us to the obvious question: If they start making sex dolls that can talk, do you think the new CES rules will allow them to be dressed in suggestive clothing?
It is a real rabbit hole we go down when we try to implement 2 separate standards of banning what might be appealing to men, while promoting an actual masturbation device aimed at women.
When things don't make sense - and this situation surely doesn't an analysis is in order.
These models that so offend some women so much are in a situation similar to what my wife used to be in. Tall, slender, and good looking, she caught a lot of hatred from quite a few women, simply for looking like she does. More than o
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It doesn't specify that they have to be female sex toys, male ones are allowed too.
It doesn't need to because women's sex toys are where all the variety is at. Ergo, banning sex toys will predominately effect women.
How exact much innovation can be put into a Dildo? Regardless - the CES has now banned models that are too sexy Yeah, they are female. Male oppression, I suppose.
“CTA is committed to evolving and continuing to create an experience at CES that is inclusive and welcoming for everyone,” said Karen Chupka, EVP, CES." Hey - the left wing has it's own dog whistles!
I would love to see how "inclusive" they are if RealDoll showed up with "Harmony", the latest generation sex doll.
"The Female Quot
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Tell us again how terrible women have it, the perrenial victims of all men, Animojo? Surely there is an anecdote somewhere.
I am not AmiMoJo and frankly am a little offended that you seem to have thought that I was.
Since Animojo was in the conversation, I referenced Animojo. I should have been more clear. Sorry about that.
You said that the ban on sex toys was an affront to women, which is just another way of saying the ban was sexist, yes? AmiMoJo then attempted to claim that a ban cannot be sexist because sex toys for men exist. I then countered AmiMoJo with logic that AmiMoJo has used in the past, re-asserting your claim that a ban on sex toys is an affront to women.
A ban on sex toys - which I think is silly at a electronic trade show - needs to be at the very least, across all genders. I really have no issue with this lady and her company, other than it seems to be trying to elevate masturbation to some kind of women's sacrament. I went to their website, and find the whole thing sort of creepy.
Furthermore, given the agenda of the dildo company, the new polic
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It's part of a gradual trend redefining women's sexuality as feminist self-expression.
It's a feminist version of the Shakers. A self correcting situation.
while men's sexuality is moral depravity.
One of the strangest things about this situation, and the general whackiness of it, is apparently third wave feminists believe that if a man sees a beautiful woman in scant clothing, he is turned into a raping beast. That's like the crazy indians that banned store dummies because they incite men's passions. Crazy asshats - a plastic store dummy will only incite a mans passions if he wants to have sex with a store dummy.
Point is, I can ap
Has Iran taken over the CES? (Score:1)
Cracking down on 'Sexually Revealing' clothing sounds very much like what the Iranian regime has been doing.
Are the women required to don burqa now?
So long ... (Score:2)
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Strap-on dildo? (Score:2)
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Oh, these aren't restrictions for attendees, these are rules for operating booths!
Tell your friend not to worry.
I guess if you're running a booth you have to wear pants under it. Kinky!
Well Zombi Unicorn got rid of the competition (Score:2)
Now she can go back to posing topless on twitch for money without worrying that any guys present might pay attention to women she thinks are more attractive than her.
Oops (Score:3)
I first misread the last category of banned clothing as "huge genitalia", which made me wonder what had been seen in last year's booths.
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Well, there might have been Hugh Grant, Jenny McCarthy and Thalia at last years booths...
He said 'but crack' (Score:1)
Adult Entertainment Show? (Score:2)
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For years, CES was held in Vegas, at the same time as the Adult Entertainment convention. I heard several years ago that this is no longer the case. One might think that the current controversy is a predictable consequence.
Apparently, the fun ended in 2012... https://lasvegassun.com/news/2... [lasvegassun.com]
Extinction coming... (Score:1)
Who needs a living partner when sex-tech sex is better!
Population control at it's easiest. Then, well, extinction! All those spermies get drawn out with, ahem, FAKE sex!
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It's more exiting when it's naughty. Duh.
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I guarantee soon everyone will have mandated nap time. Remember in kindergarten when you would get out your towel and the whole class took a half hour nap on the floor? Coming to a workplace near you i guarantee it.
Who hasn't ever wanted to take a nap at work though? It would probably lead to higher productivity.