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Trauma Counselors Were Pressured To Divulge Confidential Information About Facebook Moderators, Internal Letter Claims (theintercept.com) 45

Sam Biddle, reporting for The Intercept: Nearly 1,500 miles from the Menlo Park headquarters of Facebook, at a company outpost in Austin, Texas, moderators toil around the clock to screen and scrub some the most gruesome, hateful, and heinous posts that make their way onto the social network and its photo-sharing subsidiary, Instagram. They are required to view as many as 800 pieces of disturbing content in a single shift, and routinely turn to on-site counselors to help cope with the procession of stomach-turning images, videos, and text. But some members of this invisible army have complained, in a statement widely circulated within Facebook, that the outsourcing giant that officially employs them, Accenture, has repeatedly attempted to violate the confidentiality of these therapy sessions.

The moderators work from within a special section for outsourced staffers at Facebook Austin. The Texas outpost is designed to mimic the look and feel of the company's famously opulent Silicon Valley digs, but Accenture workers say they're reminded daily of their secondary status and denied perks, prestige, and basic respect. This second-class tier at Facebook, a sort of international shadow workforce, has been well documented in the media, from Manila to Arizona, and it's not clear whether the company has done anything to address it beyond issuing defensive PR statements. Moderators in Austin say their job is a brutalizing slog and that Facebook remains largely indifferent to their struggles. Access to on-site counseling is one of the few bright points for this workforce.

But now even this grim perk has been undermined by corporate prying, according to a letter drafted by a group of about a dozen Austin moderators who work across Facebook and Instagram. The letter alleges that, starting in early July, Accenture managers attempted to pressure multiple on-site counselors to share information relating to topics discussed in employee trauma sessions. This information was understood by both counselors and Accenture employees to be confidential, said several Accenture sources interviewed by The Intercept. It is not clear what specific information related to the sessions was sought by the managers.

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Trauma Counselors Were Pressured To Divulge Confidential Information About Facebook Moderators, Internal Letter Claims

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  • by mandark1967 ( 630856 ) on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:35PM (#59094880) Homepage Journal
    To apologize to the moderators in Austin for those Amy Schumer photos.
  • by ugen ( 93902 ) on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:43PM (#59094924)

    Never trust any offer of corporate "help". It is not genuine, they are not there to actually help you, and they will screw you over as soon as that's profitable. Treat corporations with constant vigilance and mistrust. Eternal vigilance and all that.

    • Now if we could only stop giving them more power than God, but that would force us to understand the truth that capitalism isn't the everything some make it out to be.

      • It will take a couple generations for the whole way of thinking that is modern capitalism to die out, if the system ever changes. When the Berlin Wall came down, the citizens of Eastern Germany didn't suddenly stop being commies. Neither in Russia after 1991.
    • That actually works for quite a few groups of people... just saying

    • by GameboyRMH ( 1153867 ) <`gameboyrmh' `at' `gmail.com'> on Friday August 16, 2019 @04:32PM (#59095110) Journal

      Beat me to it, everything in a company exists to serve upper management. Any info you make available to a company as an employee WILL be immediately misused to the greatest extent imaginable and any help is there to help them first and maybe you as a side effect if you're lucky.

    • It's about control. Looks like you might be too traumatized or stressed out. You are a broken cog and it's time for you to get shitcanned. Oh, we won't have the big man in the suit thunder in and scream "YYYYYYOOOOU'RE FIRED!", instead we will talk shit about you behind your back and suddenly your security key card won't work anymore when you come to work tomorrow morning. Don't forget, you are a cog, despite how much they smile and lie in your face. You can be replaced.
    • by LordWabbit2 ( 2440804 ) on Friday August 16, 2019 @04:44PM (#59095152)
      This is so true. HR are not their to help and protect the employees, they are there to protect the people who pay their salaries, and sorry buddy, that's not the employees, it's the employers. As much as they spout shit about looking after staff etc. they are simply there to help management follow the law so they don't get their ass sued off. And do paper work. HR are NOT your friend. Same with counseling offered by a corporate, they are covering their ass and gathering ammunition to justify your dismissal so that you can't drag them into court on charges of unfair dismissal or anything else. If you honestly expected these sessions to be confidential you are fucking deluded, the only time sessions like that would be confidential is if you went to a private therapist and paid for it yourself. I'm pretty sure there is some double talk in the agreement signed when you asked to see a therapist at Facefoot that it would be "reviewed" for quality purposes or some shit. Corporations do not help their employees, they help themselves, if the two align "yay" but generally they don't.
    • "We're from Corporate and we're here to help."

    • Indeed. I'd suggest never, ever using your 'employee assistance program' at work. And for truly sensitive medical things, self pay if you possibly can.
  • ..this needs to carry more weight than it does. I'm talking about serious prison time.
  • by davidwr ( 791652 ) on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:49PM (#59094952) Homepage Journal

    Counselors could lose their license for breaking confidentiality.

    Pressuring someone to violate occupational-licensing laws might be a criminal offense, depending on how the laws are written.

    Anyone here an expert on occupational licensing laws in Texas?

    • Maybe the counselors will be thrown to the lions, but I'm willing to be nobody in Amazon's upper management will be. Worst thing they have to worry about is a jaywalking ticket, if that.
      • by GeekBoy ( 10877 )

        You mean Accenture

        • No, i'm pretty sure amazon just bought them too.

          (Or on the exceedingly slim chance I'm wrong.. when he does finally hear that there's still a company they haven't acquired yet, bezos will grab his checkbook and rectify the situation.)

          • Fwiw looks like it's been a partnership/co-branding thing for a while (warning: barfbucket required due to gratuitous MBA lingo):

            https://aws.amazon.com/accentu... [amazon.com]

            To know for sure if there was any equity/cash investment the respective 10-Q/Ks would have it.

    • You are presuming that these counselors are actually counselors. They may not be.
  • So what about HIPAA? (Score:4, Informative)

    by hey! ( 33014 ) on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:55PM (#59094976) Homepage Journal

    If, as I suspect, the therapists are contractors, then if they transmit billing information for their work they'd fall under HIPAA. In fact even if the therapists are company employees, there's a high probability that they "covered enttities". The APA advises its members to assume that they're covered by HIPAA, because there's almost always a way to make one of the definitions of covered entitty apply [cornell.edu].

  • by zarmanto ( 884704 ) on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:56PM (#59094978) Journal

    Regrettably, this is not nearly as surprising is it should be. The counselors are just trying to do their job, which is to help people in dire need. The employees are just trying to do their job, and then trying to deal with the insane trauma caused by images that nobody should have to be exposed to -- let alone hundreds of times a day. And of course, the managers are just trying to do their (perceived?) job... and make sure that anyone who is likely to go postal because of all that crap is promptly dealt with.

    The truly sad thing here, is that the managers have got it all wrong. They should just forget about all of the employees actually seeking counseling, and focus their attention on the employees who never go talk to the counselors. As the old saying goes, "It's always the quite ones..."

    • Aren't almost all images under photo dna or soemething, and thus auto-scrubbed by computer? How can there be thousands of new vile images a day?

    • by Obfuscant ( 592200 ) on Friday August 16, 2019 @04:20PM (#59095062)

      Regrettably, this is not nearly as surprising is it should be. The counselors are just trying to do their job, which is to help people in dire need.

      Is that their job, or is their job to evaluate the long term effects of the corporate moderation program?

      I don't think it is surprising that the company is seeking information about the effects that the moderation is having on the employees, given that the company hired the counselors to do exactly that. These are not unrelated health professionals treating employees based on an employee health plan, they were on-site company-provided resources. The company isn't going to the local health clinic demanding that the staff psychologist there turn over data on any Accenture employees who might be getting treatment.

      If the company's goal were to simply provide counseling to the employees who want to seek it out, then covering counseling under the corporate health insurance would be the right way to do it. Decouple the medial parts from the work parts completely and let the employees choose who they want to help them, and it's cheaper in the long run, too.

      IANL, but it would seem reasonable that if you talk to a company resource about your job at the company, it isn't confidential. At a minimum, the kinds of things you talk about are well within the scope of any reporting, even if specific details are not. E.g., "employees say showing images in this kind of context is more disturbing than in a different context", vs. "Joe Smith pukes every time he sees this kind of image."

      and then trying to deal with the insane trauma caused by images that nobody should have to be exposed to

      Keep in mind, these are not your coworkers who are confronted by goatse images on your monitor by accident as you surf the web. These are people who choose to do this work. You're right -- nobody should have to be exposed to them.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        It's okay to ask for generalized information about the state of the whole group's mental health and seek advice on how it could be improved. It's not okay to ask for any details of individuals.

        • It's not okay to ask for any details of individuals.

          "Accenture managers attempted to pressure multiple on-site counselors to share information relating to topics discussed in employee trauma sessions." Information relating to topics is not specific data on any individual, it is information about the topics discussed.

          You're missing the critical difference. The counselors are employed BY THE COMPANY to gather information about the moderation program and the people doing it. The employees do not get to choose who they talk to, the company does. The employee

      • by Shaitan ( 22585 )

        "IANL, but it would seem reasonable that if you talk to a company resource about your job at the company, it isn't confidential."

        Exactly this is my understanding as well. Not that it is reasonable but that it is legal. A lot of high dollar and high stress environments employ a shrink or counsellor with instructions to notify them about various red flags not only about mental stability but anything that might hurt the company, struggle of conscience that might lead to whistleblowing, potential of defecting t

    • "exposed to -- let alone hundreds of times a day. And of course, the managers are just trying to do their (perceived?) job... and make sure that anyone who is likely to go postal because of all that crap is promptly dealt with." So they want to make sure they don't shoot up their work buddies, or worse, the ones in upper management. Other than that, they can go die slowly in a gutter while wracked with PTSD. Even worse, they don't get access to the same services that war veterans do. Use 'em up and get
  • by ErichTheRed ( 39327 ) on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:56PM (#59094980)

    I know there a lot of younger people/new grads in tech (the ./ audience). I also know that the "pure" tech companies appear to be incredibly concerned with employee well-being. But, it has to be said, no one should ever complain to HR. HR is not your friend; they are there to protect the company, not you. And especially, never disclose any personal information that can be used against you. These are things new grads might not understand until about 2 or 3 jobs into their career, so that's some free advice. :-)

    I've only seen HR complaints end in something other than disaster in unionized workplaces where there's at least a little pushback against management. That's what "at will employment" is all about. Any place I've ever worked, HR identifies the complainers to their managers who then single the complainer out for special treatment. The goal is to manage them out...start enforcing stupid rules that no one else has enforced, give them impossible workloads or crappy assignments, and start the process of giving bad reviews.

    If someone is bothering you, deal with it yourself and make a plan to leave on your own terms. Any complaints will get you fired. The minute you start saying "harassment" or "hostile work environment," HR will consider you radioactive and find a way to get rid of you. In the case of Facebook and content moderators, I'm assuming they want these therapy sessions to try to figure out who's going to crack up and shoot up the office one day. It's funny because I just got done reading a story about this and those moderators are treated like garbage and exposed to the worst content every single day.

    • When you complain in a union shop, you still don't go to HR. You go to your union rep. Bringing one large entity against another large entity is generally more effective than you trying to go against your own company alone. Your mileage may vary: different unions are of different quality.
    • You are correct that HR is not your friend, but if you understand their job (and they understand it as well) there are times when you can bring a grievance to HR. Those times are when you can show that the person or policy you are referring to negatively impacts the company's bottom line. Of course, that means that you have to be able to both show that to be true and do so in a manner which the HR person understands. The further complication is that many HR people do not actually understand what their jo
    • I've dealt with three types of HR: big company HR, good small company HR, and bad small company HR. What you're describing seems like big company HR. Big company HR has policies that are designed to protect the company, usually from experience and necessity. HR tends to follow these policies, which are usually designed to get problem people out the door as quickly as possible.

      Small businesses don't have to deal with as many people so the procedures often aren't as clear-cut. They tend to have more freedo
  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:56PM (#59094984)
    they're trying to guess who's getting ready to crack so they can determine if it's time to replace them or not.
  • Read the article in it's entirety. Seems the only message companies like Accenture understand is that no one is willing to work for them. Can't abuse what's not there. Followed by either change, or going out of business.

  • If they think Facebook is disturbing, they ought to spend a little while reading the comments on Slashdot.

  • You're working for Facebook and you expect confidentiality and privacy?

    How long have you been on this planet?

  • Typically you don't have any confidentiality from your employer when using a company paid counselor. Any you do have is voluntary on their part.

    Actually that is also generally true of any medical practitioner paid by a third party.

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