Apple's iOS 13 Just Launched But iOS 13.1, iPadOS Arrive Next Week (cnet.com) 51
Apple's latest iPhone software, iOS 13, is now available -- but on Tuesday, you'll already be able to download the first update, iOS 13.1. And you'll be able to revitalize your iPad with Apple's software created for its tablets. From a report: Apple may be best known for its hardware, but it's really the seamless integration of its devices with its software that's set it apart from rivals. The company's ability to control every aspect of its products -- something that began when Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak founded Apple in 1976 -- has been key in making Apple the most powerful company in tech. The company's mobile software, iOS, gets revamped every year and launches when its latest phones hit the market. Starting Tuesday, you'll also be able to download the first update to the software, as well as the new iPadOS software tailored for Apple's tablets. iOS 13 brings a dedicated dark mode, a new swipe keyboard and a revamped Photos app (complete with video editing tools). iOS 13.1 will bring bug fixes and will let you share your ETA with friends and family members through Apple Maps. Siri shortcuts can be added to automations, and you can set up triggers to run any shortcut automatically.
Crazy, best to wait (Score:2)
By all accounts iOS 13 has been buggy (not as buggy as IOS 11, but not as stable as iOS12). The fact that in just a few handful of days you can get iOS 13.1, to me makes it kind of crazy to update to iOS 13.0 right now.
Not sure why Apple is even issuing iOS 13, it's probably because they don't want to be accused of not keeping parity with the phones shipping tomorrow for older devices.
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I think it's because 13.1 fixes a rather severe bug that was released a few days ago, so it's less that they're releasing an
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Thug Apple really doesn't have new ideas except artificial churn. Shovelling out buggy shovelware advances that agenda nicely, the remaining Apple cultists being more compliant than ever.
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iOS 13 is for the new devices so they need it out there, and then there's some new features and fixes ready to go, an unfortunate timing window to be sure.
But sending out free software updates a little weirdly close to each other matches all their evil plans???
Slashdot has devolved to a place where people confuse being cynical for being wise.
(Not saying Apple is great, but the comment is nonsensical)
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Slashdot's readership is aging, and aging engineers seem to tend towards cynical.
The next decade is going to be fun though. Aged engineers seem to tend towards batshit insane.
Useless to me, I have an Iphone 6 (Score:2, Insightful)
Very annoying, this forced obsolescence. Not very green of Apple.
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So... Average consumer replaces their phone every 18 months now (And that is a "slowdown" from previous... However ridiculous that is!) Yet you are complaining that the latest software won't run on your 5 year old device?
Here is a hint: Your iPhone 6 will keep working just fine. It will keep doing all of the same things it is doing now, pretty much as well as it is doing them now.
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So... Average consumer replaces their phone every 18 months now (And that is a "slowdown" from previous... However ridiculous that is!) Yet you are complaining that the latest software won't run on your 5 year old device?
Here is a hint: Your iPhone 6 will keep working just fine. It will keep doing all of the same things it is doing now, pretty much as well as it is doing them now.
From past experience, existing applications will get ported to the newer OS versions, and will slowly become unavailable on the old one. So the phone hardware will keep working fine. It will just lack software.
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Well... it will work, but you won't be getting any security updates for it anymore. So, use at your own risk.
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I believe apple usually continue to issue critical security patches going back a few versions at least.
Source: my dad's iPhone 5c got an update within the last few months.
Re: Useless to me, I have an Iphone 6 (Score:1)
The iPhone 6 DOESN'T keep working just fine and it DOESN'T keep "doing all the same things it is doing now" because of the bloat issue. The 6 was a magical slab of internet when it was released and now it is barely usable.
I have a 6 Plus, and Iâ(TM)m here to tell you that you are lying.
iOS 12 not only did not make my iPhone 6 âoebarely useableâ, it actually made it Faster than when it was New!
In fact, I was able to easily âoesit outâ the whole iPhone X version without feeling the slightest twinge of desire. The phone still performs perfectly, and, even with it out of the Upgrade Cycle, I will likely not upgrade until the next go-around.
Re:Useless to me, I have an Iphone 6 (Score:4, Funny)
Very annoying, this forced obsolescence. Not very green of Apple.
Yea, that's got to suck that your phone just shut off and stopped working today because it can't be upgraded. They should keep making updates for their old phones like Android handset makers do. Oh wait...
Re:Useless to me, I have an Iphone 6 (Score:5, Insightful)
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Very annoying, this forced obsolescence. Not very green of Apple.
My parents have a rotary phone. Just kidding.
The upgrade path can be a real nuisance, I agree. I do have to say though, that the Apple integration the article speaks of is great. My phone integrates with my iMac, my new Jeep, My wife's phone, and her MacBook and iPad. I'm willing to update to keep that functionality.
I'm in a very busy stage of my work life, with a gazillion meetings and places to be, the price of the new devices is a real bargain. It is a little strange to have my new Jeep remind me o
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And I am still using an iPhone 5s from 2013 as my daily phone, which up until today has been able to run the latest version of iOS. It's a shame they're cutting off both your phone and mine from the latest version of iOS, but it's also rather incredible that devices from 2013 and 2014 have been getting first-class treatment with feature and security updates all the way up until yesterday. And it's also rather remarkable that we'll be able to easily keep on using them just as they are until we're ready to up
iOS 13 cutoff is hardware based, 2GB RAM minimum (Score:5, Informative)
Useless to me, I have an Iphone 6. Very annoying, this forced obsolescence. Not very green of Apple.
Forced obsolescence? The iPhone 6 was released 5 years ago in 2014, its 5 hardware generations behind (A8 CPU vs A13) and only has 1GM of RAM. Only the devices with 2GB or more are getting the iOS 13 update. That's a technical difference, not some arbitrary forced obsolescence difference.
;-)
Plus iOS 12 will likely receive security and other critical updates and your iPhone 6 will continue to run just fine. You only miss out on new features, some of which were designed with only four year old hardware in mind, with a 2GB RAM minimum in mind.
Its also better support than my Google Nexus phones got.
As for green, well Apple is happy to give you $60 and recycle the phone for you.
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Re:iOS 13 cutoff is hardware based, 2GB RAM minimu (Score:4)
Presumably because there is more for the operating system to manage with each successive version as more functionality is added to the phone.
As far as Windows goes, a lot of that was a concerted effort on Microsoft's part to make newer versions of Windows run well on old machines, especially Windows 10. This involved a lot of time and money spent toward optimizing for scenarios where resources are lacking as well as some psychological trickery. One of Windows 7's features was that it would render UI elements before they're ready so that people can start taking action even before the underlying function is ready (any clicks they make are stored and executed once the underlying element is ready). Technically the system is still running at the same speed, but since the user is able to act sooner, they see the system as "running faster." This is a pretty clever feature and not something you'd get from half-assing UI and optimization research.
You seem to be under the assumption that developers are deliberately slowing down their systems. The opposite is closer to the truth: as systems get more and more overloaded with feature creep and security fixes that interfere with optimization, it's a struggle to keep systems running smoothly. And while newer hardware can counteract this by having features that speed things up at the hardware level, it's even more costly and difficult to keep older systems running at the same speed.
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Why then the user interface gets slower with each IOS update? Do you really think the new features require extra 1Gb of RAM? If you are old enough, ...
I am not only old enough I am a software developer. 2GB is needed for iOS 13 functionality because the functionality of iOS 8 barely fit into 1G. So iOS 9, 10, 11 and 12 got slower on an iPhone 6 because the system software kept growing.
It depends on RAM. My 9 (10?) year old Athlon X2 box is only usable because I put a lot of RAM into it when I built it. Plus its had a few video card upgrades.
PCs with factory RAM slow down with new versions of windows too after 5 years. Beyond that memory upgrades are ne
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If you think this is forced obsolescence I don't think you're going to like Android very much.
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Unless you buy a Pixel - then you'll get updates on par with Apple at least.
Re:Useless to me, I have an Iphone 6 (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Useless to me, I have an Iphone 6
Very annoying, this forced obsolescence. Not very green of Apple.
Oh, get off of it. They make new phones every year. You don't have to buy them.
My 5S soldiered on from new in Dec 2013 to a few weeks ago, and I replaced with an 8. I expect at least 4 years out of it.
Why is it forced obsolescence? Use it until the magic smoke comes out and then replace it. It's not like apple's forcing you to buy a new one.
Meanwhile, life goes on, product development goes on, and when you do replace that ratty tattered old 6, it'll be with a presumably better-made phone with seemingly all the performance in the world and a much better camera.
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Very annoying, this forced obsolescence. Not very green of Apple.
What would you have them do? Your iPhone 6 doesn't stop working and they often backport important security fixes.
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Could be worse, could be Samsung - in which you'll be lucky to get one updated - ever.
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Could be worse. You could have an Android phone. 5 years of OS support isn't too bad. (iPhone 6 came out in 2014.) Believe it or not, Apple leads the industry in supporting old hardware.
And the phone will continue to work just fine for another year or two. It's not like it's going to shut itself down if you don't update it. Most apps will continue to run on the one-down-from-current version of the OS.
And I say all this as the owner of an SE, which will probably lose support next year. But I'll continue runn
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I'm still using a 4S! :P
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iPhone 6 has only 1GB of RAM, so you can hardly complain about support dropping after all these years.
For a better example of forced obsolescence from Apple, consider apps for older iPads running IOS 9.
My kid uses one for primary (elementary) school, and almost all important apps are still available and work well, except those from Apple, e.g. Pages, Numbers, Keynote.
The Appstore will not even let you download an old working version of the app, unless it is already in your "library". So I had to ins
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I have the same problem with Big Strawberry, I get a bucket of strawberries and they mold in a matter of days, before I can even eat them, not very green of you Driscoll's! Forced Obsolescence at its worst!
Pairing Two AirPods! Two Other BT As Well? (Score:3)
iOS comes with the ability to pair two sets of AirPods to an iPhone. That's pretty neat. Does anyone know if it's JUST AirPods or can any two Bluetooth headphones be paired with an iOS 13 iPhone?
Re: Pairing Two AirPods! Two Other BT As Well? (Score:2)
Pretty neat but not neat enough to get people to switch to android. Just neat enough to brag that iPhone has this feature.
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iOS comes with the ability to pair two sets of AirPods to an iPhone. That's pretty neat. Does anyone know if it's JUST AirPods or can any two Bluetooth headphones be paired with an iOS 13 iPhone?
You can pair as many BT devices as you want as far as I know, it's always been the case.
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Yes you can pair anything but can you choose to have audio route through more than one of the paired devices at once?
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Yes you can pair anything but can you choose to have audio route through more than one of the paired devices at once?
Ah, didn't realize that. Don't bury the lead like that! That is pretty cool.
Release X.1 -- what we dropped ... (Score:2)
Things were simpler with CD based distribution. The only software that had to work off the CD was the patcher. Made appearing to be on schedule much simpler.
More fragmentation (Score:2)
Too bad the features are fragmented. iPads can read files off of a usb flash drive but iPhones can't. Apple doesn't control both the software and hardware so you get this mess.
Not true (Score:4, Informative)
iPads can read files off of a usb flash drive but iPhones can't.
The iPhone (with iOS 13) CAN read a file off a USB flash drive, or other storage.
The key is that it has to be something that doesn't draw too much power - so a powered USB drive would work, as do SD cards [appleinsider.com].
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Sounds like an Apple-only power management screwup. Far from the first.
Thug Apple sends out its social media trollmods again. That's why we call you Thug Apple. Thug Apple and reduced to sending out thugmods. How the mighty have fallen.
Thug Apple up to its usual tricks, here for all to see. That's why we call you Thug Apple[tm].
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iPads can read files off of a usb flash drive but iPhones can't.
The iPhone (with iOS 13) CAN read a file off a USB flash drive, or other storage.
The key is that it has to be something that doesn't draw too much power - so a powered USB drive would work, as do SD cards [appleinsider.com].
Oops, sorry I misspoke, above, then. tianamen tank man was still an idiot (and has a truly offensive username, besides!)
So, if you have your iPhone running into a Powered USB Hub, you can use Storage-Class Devices on it? Howabout Mice? Isn't there some Mouse support in iPadOS? DId that make it to iOS, too?
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Too bad the features are fragmented. iPads can read files off of a usb flash drive but iPhones can't. Apple doesn't control both the software and hardware so you get this mess.
WTF are you talking about?!?
Of COURSE Apple controls both the hardware and software on iPhones and iPads (and Macs and Apple Watch and AppleTV and the iPod Touch).
iPads can read files off of a USB flash drive because Apple has started to differentiate the capabilities of iOS vs. iPadOS.
Idiot.
Re: More fragmentation (Score:1)
I know apple controls both the hardware and software yet iPads get split screen apps and iPhones don't.
Don't look up or you might see something swooshing by
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iPads are big. iPhones are not as big. Apple realizes tablets and phones aren't the same. Why can't you?
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I don't see any reason not to enable it. My Android phone has split screen. I almost never use it, but my wife uses it once in a while. Give people the choice. Don't hold back a feature because you don't think there's a use for it. Release the feature and see what people do with it.