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Facebook Says Government Demands For User Data Are at a Record High (techcrunch.com) 31

Facebook's latest transparency report is out. The social media giant said the number of government demands for user data increased by 16% to 128,617 demands during the first-half of this year compared to the second-half of last year. From a report: That's the highest number of government demands its received in any reporting period since it published its first transparency report in 2013. The U.S. government led the way with the most number of requests -- 50,741 demands for user data resulting in some account or user data given to authorities in 88% of cases. Facebook said two-thirds of all of the U.S. government's requests came with a gag order, preventing the company from telling the user about the request for their data. But Facebook said it was able to release details of 11 so-called national security letters (NSLs) for the first time after their gag provisions were lifted during the period. National security letters can compel companies to turn over non-content data at the request of the FBI. These letters are not approved by a judge, and often come with a gag order preventing their disclosure. But since the Freedom Act passed in 2015, companies have been allowed to request the lifting of those gag orders.
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Facebook Says Government Demands For User Data Are at a Record High

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  • It's a failure (Score:3, Insightful)

    by penandpaper ( 2463226 ) on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @05:55PM (#59411448) Journal

    Let's admit that social media is a failure. Bringing on partisan censorship (Eric Ciaramella) and surveillance all at the government and party fingertips.

    What concerns me more is if this data is used as triggers for Red Flag Laws to take away the rights of citizens for wrongthink that have committed no crime.

    I don't know what the future is but I know the present is already grim.

    • Re:It's a failure (Score:4, Insightful)

      by TechyImmigrant ( 175943 ) on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @06:02PM (#59411474) Homepage Journal

      >Let's admit that social media is a failure.

      It works fine.
      I can message friends and family.
      I am a member in closed groups where we discuss things on topic for the group.
      Direct communications is whitelisted, unlike email where spam prevails.

      If you put anything up on social media that you consider private then that's a mistake.

      • >Let's admit that social media is a failure.

        It works fine. I can message friends and family. I am a member in closed groups where we discuss things on topic for the group. Direct communications is whitelisted, unlike email where spam prevails.

        If you put anything up on social media that you consider private then that's a mistake.

        So you replaced social media is a failure with private comms are fine? Not the same at all, but OK.

        • >Let's admit that social media is a failure.

          It works fine.
          I can message friends and family.
          I am a member in closed groups where we discuss things on topic for the group.
          Direct communications is whitelisted, unlike email where spam prevails.

          If you put anything up on social media that you consider private then that's a mistake.

          So you replaced social media is a failure with private comms are fine? Not the same at all, but OK.

          For private comms I use Signal or other forms of secure communication. I understand secure communication because I work in the field of cryptography. For channels like Facebook messenger, I avoid talking about matters I wouldn't want governments, criminals or corporations listening in on.

          Social media is not private. Just treat it as not private, but it still has utility.

      • by Askmum ( 1038780 )
        Ah, you are communicating with family member X that is supect for criminal act Y? You're a person if interest now. We have reason you are colluding with this person, we now have a warrant to tap your phone.
        The less facebook collects, the less they can give to the government. Unfortunately, facebook collects everything they can get their hands on because that's their business model. So you're connections with your family members get analyzed en connected to other information you (knowlingly or nog) divulge
        • That's why I don't use Facebook to communicate information that must remain private. That includes things like passwords, corporate secrets and matters pertaining to government security/spying organizations that I brush up against in my job. In my job I make security physical primitives so people can secure their stuff. Without the security physical primitives (entropic random numbers, guaranteed unique IDs and nonces etc.) it's impossible to secure your information over open channels.

  • by Chromal ( 56550 ) on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @06:20PM (#59411520)
    National Security Letter == 0-day exploit of the US Constitution and the UN declaration of Universal Human Rights. Legitimate liberal democratic governance is open and transparent, full stop. If it isn't open and transparent, it isn't legitimate. Where does the US Constitution authorize secret government conspiracies perpetuated against The People? It does not. This activity is treasonous, its perpetrators are the enemies of the United States, a fascist occupation of the US Federal Government that continues to metastasize. Where do these lines go when you extrapolate?
    • That part about the UN made me chuckle. Because the UN is a joke.
      • by Chromal ( 56550 )
        (repost to thread) Are you quoting Hitler's ghost there? It's pretty obvious that United Nations is the best hope that humanity and Earth have got at this point.
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          • by Chromal ( 56550 )
            Go on.... You "hope" it's satire because you have this great and reasonable rationale for how the entire world will come together to set standards of international law that ensure the safety and security of the species from the consequences of un- or under-regulated industrial-scale behaviors that as it turns out are quite destructive to the sustainable conditions required for the essential ecosystems of this planet, and if that doesn't break a law, then it needs to.
            • At this point the UN is nothing but a cover for a gigantic child molesting operation worldwide.

              Not to mention the global fascist system you are practically salivating to implement. Keep power away from dangerous people like you.

              • by Chromal ( 56550 )
                Right, because nothing says fascism and the deprivation of a child's rights quite like the declaration of Universal Human Right. Take your clown act elsewhere, troll.
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  • Are you quoting Hitler's ghost there? It's pretty obvious that United Nations is the best hope that humanity and Earth have got at this point.
  • This is how you know Facebook will never face any real penalties for their seemingly never-ending privacy problems.
    The Government is far, FAR too addicted to the data access that Facebook can provide.

    The same can be said for any corporation who has massive databases on the population at large.

    Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Facebook, Various Telecoms, ISP's, etc. etc.

  • what about a transparency report from facebook on facebook itself?

  • And why not? All the government (local, state, federal) has to do is go on social media and just catalog the criminals, thugs, gangbangers, and twisted people. No real detective work necessary. No confidential informants, no undercover operations. Just look on youtube, twitter, instagram and see the insanity. A majority of what's posted will and does get people arrested and jailed.

    An individual for the most part, has a level head to think with. However, put that same individual in a crowd of their peers,

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