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Will Iran Launch a Cyberattack Against the U.S.? (msn.com) 174

"Iranian officials are likely considering a cyber-attack against the U.S. in the wake of an airstrike that killed one of its top military officials," reports Bloomberg: In a tweet after the airstrike on Thursday, Christopher Krebs, director of the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, repeated a warning from the summer about Iranian malicious cyber-attacks, and urged the public to brush up on Iranian tactics and to pay attention to critical systems, particularly industrial control infrastructure... John Hultquist, director of intelligence analysis at the cybersecurity firm FireEye Inc., said Iran has largely resisted carrying out attacks in the U.S. so far. But "given the gravity of this event, we are concerned any restraint they may have demonstrated could be replaced by a resolve to strike closer to home."

Iranian cyber-attacks have included U.S. universities and companies, operators of industrial control systems and banks. Iranian hackers tried to infiltrate the Trump campaign, and they have launched attacks against current and former U.S. government officials and journalists. The U.S., meanwhile, has employed cyberweapons to attack Iran's nuclear capabilities and computer systems used to plot attacks against oil tankers, according to the New York Times....

James Lewis, senior vice president at the Center for Strategic & International Studies, said Iranian retaliation may include the use of force, but the government is also likely asking hackers for a list of options. "Cyber-attacks may be tempting if they can find the right American target," Lewis said. "The Iranians are pretty capable and our defenses are uneven, so they could successfully attack poorly defensed targets in the U.S. There are thousands, but they would want something dramatic."

Mother Jones shares another perspective: There's little reason to think that Iran could pull off a truly spectacular attack, such as disabling major electric grids or other big utilities, said Robert M. Lee, an expert in industrial control systems security and the CEO of Dragos. "People should not be worried about large scale attacks and impacts that they can largely think about in movies and books like an electric grid going down." Instead, Iran might choose targets that are less prominent and less secure.

"The average citizen should not be concerned," he said, "but security teams at [U.S.] companies should be on a heightened sense of awareness."

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 04, 2020 @10:36AM (#59585992)
    against the perpetrators. Bosnia in 1998, Iraq in 2003, Northern Africa and Syria between 2011 and 2015, Iran this year. All wars matching an election in one country. All fought under false pretext, fabricated by the same country. Enough oughta be enough.
    • Iran? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by NotSoHeavyD3 ( 1400425 ) on Saturday January 04, 2020 @11:33AM (#59586172) Journal
      Wait, were any US operation in Iran at all? Last I checked when they killed Soleimani with an airstrike they hit his convoy outside of Bagdad International Airport which is in Iraq. All the Iranian backed militia the US have been going after have been, as far as I know, inside of Iraq.
    • with advances in gravity proving tobe significant, iran will be sitting on a resevouir of liquid carbon that no-one wants.
  • Cyberattack? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Dunbal ( 464142 ) * on Saturday January 04, 2020 @10:38AM (#59585996)
    I think it would be naive to believe that Iran will limit its response in this manner. They are very, very pissed off. The man that was killed was a hero to them, someone who led the successful fight against Da'esh in Syria. I fully expect Iran to respond with its own assassination of a prominent American.
    • Re: Cyberattack? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Way Smarter Than You ( 6157664 ) on Saturday January 04, 2020 @10:50AM (#59586036)
      A hero to who, exactly? All of Iran? Or just the psychotic religious nutters who stole power illegally after the Shah fled? The average Iranian on the street is protesting their own government and getting mowed down en masse by this evil piece of shit's thugs.
    • by mi ( 197448 ) <slashdot-2017q4@virtual-estates.net> on Saturday January 04, 2020 @10:59AM (#59586060) Homepage Journal

      I think it would be naive to believe that Iran will limit its response in this manner.

      I think, it is naive to think, Iran can do anything, they haven't already tried.

      The man that was killed was a hero to them, someone who led the successful fight against Da'esh in Syria.

      It takes a serious propaganda effort to whip up "heroism" of someone in charge of military actions two countries over away from home and against a group not threatening your country either. In that regard he'd be something like general Petreus — complete with one-time Presidential aspirations — but has soon become General Betray Us [npr.org]...

      its own assassination of a prominent American

      A civilian — maybe, but that would be blatant terrorism. A government official — whether from a civil or military branch — unlikely, because, if they could they would've done it already. The Baghdad embassy siege was just such an attempt [express.co.uk].

      • Not all government officials and military officers are under constant guard. It's just a matter of sending an operative with a handgun.
        • by mi ( 197448 )

          Not all government officials and military officers are under constant guard.

          The prominent ones are. Killing an American gas-station attendant or even a tourist visiting, say, Gobekli Tepe or Sphinx will not avenge the death of such a "hero", will it?

          • Still there are some retired ones who have only historic importance but are good target for revenge.
            • There are no "good targets for revenge," because anybody prominent enough to even make the news would start a war that would see all Iranian leaders killed, except for ones with really deep spider holes.

              Attempting revenge when you're powerless to affect it just leads to death and embarrassment.

              • I don't think so. I doubt that US would start even conventional war if Iranians off someone like, say, Donald Rumsfeld and later call this anti-terrorist op. If they do war after all then it will work out like Vietnam. Nuclear isn't an option because deploying nuclear weapons would be taken extremely negatively by entire world, no matter the reason.
        • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

          That is just as unlikely as a cyber attack. The US government is hoping for a cyber attack, very forlorn hope. Most likely just supply RPGs into hot spots full of US troops and they are all over the planet and offer bitcoin bonuses for successful strikes. Completely random stuff, some will fail, some will succeed, they will be no pattern to analyse and the US government has created a target rich environment in all those countries they purposefully tipped into corruption and chaos so they could DOMINATE.

          So

      • I've seen you writing a lot of stupid things over the years and hence should not be surprised, but citing the express is a new low even by your standards.

    • They are very, very pissed off.

      "They" would be the same people who killed 1,500 demonstrators in the streets.

    • I think it would be naive to believe that Iran will ... respond with its own assassination of a prominent American.

      Military leaders are legit military command and control targets in a conflict, and this air strike was in response to a military attack by Iranian forces under his command.

      When a US base comes under military attack, and an American dies, it is not unusual, or an escalation, to respond with an air strike.

      If Iran wants to have an open military conflict, there is no clear reason for the US to avoid that, in the context of them already attacking our bases repeatedly. The only reason they didn't attack more thin

      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by Dunbal ( 464142 ) *

        Military leaders are legit military command and control targets in a conflict

        When did the war with Iran start - remind me?

        response to a military attack by Iranian forces

        Says the CIA, 50% of whom hate Trump and have actively tried to sabotage him several times now. Maybe it was the other 50% - the ones that swear Iraq had WMD's and the Vietnamese attacked the USS Maddox, etc... When the only assurances you have from the guy with the smoking gun is "he started it" when he points at the dead guy, you don't take his word for it - you look for witnesses.

        I'll reserve judgement on exactly what's going on because frankly I have no mor

    • > I think it would be naive to believe that Iran will limit its response in this manner. They are very, very pissed off. The man that was killed was a hero to them ..

      Not only that, Qassem Suleimani was one of Iran's top generals. There's an unwritten law between belligerents, that they don't target the officers. Trump has violated this, of which there are going to be severe consequences. Why now you may ask, well let Trump tell you in his own words:

      Our president will start a war with Iran, b
    • Interesting comment, though it seems short of insightful. I do agree that Iran's response will include kinetic components. I think that EditorDavid could have done a better job with the headline, since it does suggest Iran might focus on cyber-warfare as more than a secondary but high RoI tactic (since America is so vulnerable).

      However my main reason for replying is to ask why this comment is first with the "Insightful" Comments Filter, but it does not appear first for All comments? Another peculiarity of t

  • noise level (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ceg97 ( 976736 ) on Saturday January 04, 2020 @10:41AM (#59586004)
    Give me a break. Any Iranian attacks are noise level compared to China, Russia and Korea.
    • That might be true but all of these countries are restrained to some degree in their attacks because they don't want to provoke a hostile response. They are more like probes to see what is possible rather than attacks intending to inflict damage - indeed their ideal goal is probably to steal information without being detected i.e. with minimal damage.

      Any cyberattack from Iran is not going to be at all restrained. They are going to go for maximum disruption, damage and visibility. Whether this will be eff
      • by SuricouRaven ( 1897204 ) on Saturday January 04, 2020 @11:33AM (#59586174)

        Iran has to exercise restraint. They need to retaliate, for the domestic audience - if they do not, their own people will see their government as weak and cowardly. But they can't retaliate too much, or they will risk the US striking back with full force. If that happens it will start a conflict that Iran cannot hope to win - though it may well be a phyrric victory for the US too, as the costs of a full-scale invasion would quickly reach into trillions of dollars. So Iran will have to play it carefully: Retaliate with just enough force to protect their national dignity, but not enough to start Gulf War III.

        • Great, now throw Trump into the mix and all bets are off.
        • But they can't retaliate too much, or they will risk the US striking back with full force.

          Really? My guess is that even the worst-case cyberattack is going to cause nothing but inconvenience and disruption so that might restrain a physical attack but I don't see it causing any such restraint on a cyber-attack. Would the US really launch a massive, full-scale invasion of Iran because they caused widespread disruption for a few days in the US? I could well imagine that Trump would but large scale invasions take time and planning and can't just be ordered at the drop of a hat like this assassinati

          • A cyberattack *is* restraint. It might cause plenty of economic damage, but it's not going to have the US public demanding blood be spilled in response.

        • by Leuf ( 918654 )
          A retaliation that doesn't lead to war doesn't exist. We are already in a spiral of increasing retaliation. Any retaliation at all will be answered with something stronger. If they had to make a response to this to avoid looking weak, that will still be true after the US retaliates again. Two sides that both think the only way to avoid looking weak is to attack will inevitably end up at war. The only way out is to not retaliate at all. If we're banking on Iran to be more restrained and reasonable that
      • Everyone should get ready to change all passwords. Sigh.

  • Well, Pompeo was close enough to 'Mars Attacks' , starting the bombing while exclaiming the US is committed to de-escalation.
    The weird thing to the villain empires in movies is, they don't have any propaganda arm of significance. It's always so carefully calibrated not to fool anyone.

    • by mi ( 197448 ) <slashdot-2017q4@virtual-estates.net> on Saturday January 04, 2020 @11:17AM (#59586114) Homepage Journal

      starting the bombing while exclaiming the US is committed to de-escalation

      You seem to imply some contradiction here. But there is not: killing the enemies bent on killing you and/or your friends advances peace — and really does promote de-escalation...

      • Not if those enemies also have allies. Kill one person, and their death will inspire others. You have to kill a lot of people to end a war that way.

        • by mi ( 197448 )

          Not if those enemies also have allies.

          Allies of enemies are enemies too...

          Kill one person, and their death will inspire others

          Will it inspire them, or will it scare them?

          You have to kill a lot of people to end a war that way.

          Not if your cause is just — and you manage to convince the potential enemies of the righteousness. Failing that — yes, you may need to kill those who both continue to disagree with you and attack you over the disagreements. Humanity's been doing this for eons...

        • Not if those enemies also have allies.

          They don't. They have angry masses who were told who to blame for their poverty.

          The ones who already knew who was to blame for their poverty, they were killed while protesting the week before.

      • We are making war for peace! I like it.
        People can only believe the story of the US doing everything in self defence and for peace if they're been soaked in propaganda for decades. For others its not good enough for comedy programs.
        There is no US war you would not support enthusiastically.

      • Go look up a YouTuber named Beau of the Fifth Column. Start with this video [youtube.com].

        TL;DW, You don't kill people who want to kill you unless they're a) in leadership, b) competent, c) not useful for other purposes. The guy we kill fails test c) _spectacularly_. He was tremendously useful at keeping the region under control. Multiple presidents (Bush Jr & Obama both) avoiding killing the guy. The only reason to kill him was to start a war for election purposes.

        For the Love of God don't fall for it. We'l
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Who is bent on killing who here?

        Iran has a lot of rhetoric but ultimately doesn't have to power to do much even if it wanted to. It's also shown that it is willing to work towards peace with the nuclear deal.

        The US openly talks about attacking Iran and has the capability to do it. Iran is surrounded by US military bases. Trump is willing to kill Iranians to help his re-election campaign.

        By your logic the best thing for peace would be to assassinate Trump.

  • by dmitch33 ( 6254132 ) on Saturday January 04, 2020 @10:59AM (#59586062)

    Seriously? Why are you asking such a repetitive question as this. Iran has been conducting attacks against the west and there is absolutely nothing new here.

    Only the shallow minded people who only focus on headline news and ignorant of world events would actually believe that this one incident is going to cause the Iranian government to attack the U.S. and its allies in a more grievous manor.

    • by NateFromMich ( 6359610 ) on Saturday January 04, 2020 @11:01AM (#59586068)

      Seriously? Why are you asking such a repetitive question as this. Iran has been conducting attacks against the west and there is absolutely nothing new here.

      Only the shallow minded people who only focus on headline news and ignorant of world events would actually believe that this one incident is going to cause the Iranian government to attack the U.S. and its allies in a more grievous manor.

      Exactly. They launch cyberattacks against us every fucking day.

      • Seriously? Why are you asking such a repetitive question as this. Iran has been conducting attacks against the west and there is absolutely nothing new here.

        Only the shallow minded people who only focus on headline news and ignorant of world events would actually believe that this one incident is going to cause the Iranian government to attack the U.S. and its allies in a more grievous manor.

        Exactly. They launch cyberattacks against us every fucking day.

        If they had another button, they'd have already mashed it into the panel.

        They thought they found a new button to press inside the Green Zone, but when they pressed it a car at the airport blew up instead. Whoopseee.

    • This guy wasn't news, they could have got him long ago. This is "wag the dog" type distraction. Done for political timing. Why people don't think the orange moron is capable of this when his job has been chaotic distractions?

      Iran can do nothing or nothing out of the norm (and not unlike what the USA does itself) and an excuse will be found to wag the dog some more. No need to fake an event like the film "wag the dog" there are plenty of real excuses to exploit and exaggerate.

      Hell, Trump could blame Iran fo

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  • This would be an easy target. They just need to be careful to not switch off the whole country, or there could be a desperate nuclear response to the attack.

    • They just need to be careful to not switch off the whole country, or there could be a desperate nuclear response to the attack.

      If they could just picture their own emotions, and then picture feeling those same emotions but having access to US weapons, and they'd realize how moronic it is for them to try to lash out at us.

      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        That does not work. The US cannot use most of its weapons. Currently, it appears more than weak, mostly due to its current "leadership" basically having done its best to offended everybody the US used to consider allies.

  • Trump Videos (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Epeeist ( 2682 ) on Saturday January 04, 2020 @11:32AM (#59586168) Homepage

    There must be showerloads of Trump videos out there that they could make publicly available...

    Alternatively, they could release Trump's tax details and show what a bigly amount of money he has.

  • by BrendaEM ( 871664 ) on Saturday January 04, 2020 @11:33AM (#59586176) Homepage
    Trump got America into this mess--while North Korea wants to blow up America. Other than things being easier for us in Iraq, exactly what will we gain from this? Well, you likely aren't seeing this through the eyes of a person who believes that every other religion should perish--like we will have on both sides.
  • No, they should just announce that they have place sleeper agents in all McDonalds in Washington, with slow poisons to trickle on, thereby ruining some people's dinner plans for the next year.

    • by OzPeter ( 195038 )

      No, they should just announce that they have place sleeper agents in all McDonalds in Washington, with slow poisons to trickle on, thereby ruining some people's dinner plans for the next year.

      Those agents have been there from day one administering specific poisons - they're called salt and fat

  • Petraeus interview [pri.org]

    Soleimani [twitter.com] was a terrorist leader responsible for killing hundreds of US troops and injuring many more. He was in a foreign country organizing more attacks against the US interests.

    You live by the sword, you die by the sword.
    You reap what you sow
    Karma's a Bitch

    • by spth ( 5126797 )

      I don't think the world is safer without him. Though we don't know what the future would have been and will be.

      But while his interests may not always have coinceded with US interests, he certainly made the middle east a better place in the past. He fought the Taliban. He had a key role in defeating IS. And IS was far worse than any of Soleimani's allies have ever been.

      The middle east isn't a nice place, and to me, it seems among the main actors there, he and Iran were the lesser evil.

    • > Soleimani .. was in a foreign country organizing more attacks against the US interests.

      As distinct from the US being in a foreign country attacking the indigenous?
    • It's not his well-being that people are concerned about, it's what comes next.
  • To date, most cyber attacks have been carried out either for
    - intelligence
    - profit (ransomware, BEC, bitcoin mining, etc)

    In the first case, you want to be stealthy.
    In the second, you want the system to remain functional so you can make money from it.
    Even ransomware needs the system to be recoverable, or else you can't make a credible offer to the victim.
    If your goal is revenge, it's just slash and burn

    for f in `find /dev -type b`; do dd if=/dev/zero of=$f; done

    And it never stops.
    You send your flying monkeys

  • Whenever they say . . .

    "but security teams at [U.S.] companies should be on a heightened sense of awareness."
    The fewmets are about to hit the fan . . . hope they are wrong and China isn't all that tight on the cyber plane with Iran!
  • Stop buying into establishment media war mongering. You're being lied to. /.'s community is way, way, _way_ too old to fall for this shit.

    We'll get the usual espionage crap every country does to us and that's it. No attack. No nothing. Iran's leadership knows they can't win a war with us and they know that we throw the current leadership to the wolves when we take over a country. We've done it 3 times in recent history (Iraq, Afghanistan & Libia). If a war breaks out they all die. Not if, when. If t
  • by clambake ( 37702 ) on Saturday January 04, 2020 @04:09PM (#59586884) Homepage

    ...they'd find and publish Trump's tax returns.

  • Look.

    Iran has always hated the United States. Always. It's a fact of life and, to be honest, no one really cares any more.
    Unless they shoot up a ship with some missiles or dump a bunch more mines in the water, Iran is pretty much irrelevant
    on the world stage.

    Now, instead of the chant of " Death to America " it'll become " DEATH to America ". That's it. That's all. They're Super Cereal about it now . . . .

    The bottom line is Iran likes to stir shit up and when they get called out on it, they play the vi

  • Iran pushing aggression against US in Iraq for quite a while. There was no practical means to deport the Iranian military leader. Time will tell if sensible to take out. It does send a message to others in Iraq aligning with Iran. Bush / Cheney WMD hoax was supposed to liberate Iraq but the after math a mess with militias easy for corruption by Iranian thugs for power.

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