Rapper Akon Created His Own Cryptocurrency City In Senegal Called 'Akon City' (cnn.com) 90
An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNN: It's official, Akon has his own city in Senegal. Known as "Akon City," the rapper and entrepreneur tweeted Monday that he had finalized the agreement for the new city. Akon, who is of Senegalese descent, originally announced plans for the futuristic "Crypto city" in 2018 saying that the city would be built on a 2,000-acre land gifted to him by the President of Senegal, Macky Sall. The new city would also trade exclusively in his own digital cash currency called AKoin, he said. The official website for the city said at the time it would be a five-minute drive from the West African state's new international airport. According to a video posted to the project's Facebook page, "all transactional activity" in Akon City will be conducted using AKoin.
"What's worrying is that, at this stage, there doesn't appear to be any white paper for Akon's cryptocurrency, so it's hard to gauge exactly what we're in for," reports The Next Web. "The associated website does however hype the release of a white paper and an 'explainer video' sometime before February this year."
"What's worrying is that, at this stage, there doesn't appear to be any white paper for Akon's cryptocurrency, so it's hard to gauge exactly what we're in for," reports The Next Web. "The associated website does however hype the release of a white paper and an 'explainer video' sometime before February this year."
I don't know... (Score:1)
If it really is on the up & up, I hope it succeeds, but I wouldn't put any money in it at this point, crypto or otherwise.
Bitcoin is not the best, flawed, just the first (Score:5, Interesting)
Bitcoin is optimal in every way; You can't beat Bitcoin. You can't beat the best.
Bitcoin is not the best. It is just the first virtual currency to come to the public's attention. It is nothing more than the first popular user of the blockchain, no more important and no less replaceable than the first popular user of the internal combustion engine, the Model T Ford. Blockchain might be the future but bitcoin is not.
Bitcoin is technically flawed according to its own design. To be secure it needs a diverse population of "miners" that maintain the blockchain. We **DO NOT** have a diverse population of miners. Mining is dominated by expensive ASIC hardware and 70% of those miners are located in a single country, China. We no longer have a population of miners that are just regular people's computers spread across the globe, those days are gone, and bitcoin's security model is gone with it.
Bitcoin was supposed to be immune from government intervention, but that require diversity. With 70% of miners in China the Chinese Communist Party can order the miners to modify the blockchain. That is supposed to be impossible by Bitcoin's original design but we have moved away from that design and such things are plausible. Yes that is unlikely to happen but according to bitcoin's original design it was supposed to be impossible not unlikely. Bitcoin is flawed today, its security broken.
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Everything else is centralized. Finding a single point of failure is easy.
Bitcoin is not decentralized, reality vs theory (Score:4, Informative)
You are missing the point. The only innovation here is the decentralization. Bitcoin is genuinely decentralized. You can't find any single point of failure.
Missing the point? I am specifically referring to decentralization, or in bitcoin's actual case the lack of decentralization. Diversity of miners, decentralization of miners, same thing. The point remains that bitcoin's design requires a decentralized network of miners using their own computers to maintain the blockchain, we **do not have that**. Bitcoin is not operating according to its design. Instead of ordinary computers we have specialized ASIC devices, instead or ordinary users we have medium to large scale commercial "mining" operations - even individual miners are typically co-located with these commercial operations so they don't have control of the equipment they own, instead of decentralization we have 70% of mining taking place in China.
The theory of bitcoin is secure, but the reality of bitcoin deviates from that theory. There is no decentralization. There is no guarantee of security. There is no immunity from government manipulation.
Bitcoin is the best - Decentralization matters! (Score:2)
The only theoretical issue with mining is a 51% attack. Is China and the CCP can attack it? The answer is no. Mining Bitcoin is a very competitive industry. China is not a free market. This value of 70% is just FUD. China is not even considered as a location for new mining operations. China is just a place where an old Bitcoin m
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And pray tell, who has the defacto monopoly on production of the ASIC chips?
At this point no singular entity asserts control over the 51%. That can change rapidly if the Communist Party of China decides to do so.
Except its 66% in China, so a 51% cartel possible (Score:2)
The genuine decentralization is a consequence of the don't trust verify mindset unique to Bitcoin. Bitcoin has no leader, and no company attached to it. The attack surface is zero.
Nope. Bitcoin trusts 51%. If a cartel of 51% or more votes for false transactions those transactions are considered verified by the network. Its called a 51% attack, the design of bitcoin calls for decentralization of the miners to make such an attack undoable. However with 66% of the mining done in China it is doable. Bitcoin is at the mercy of the CCP.
The only theoretical issue with mining is a 51% attack. Is China and the CCP can attack it? The answer is no.
Wrong. Its not "Is China" its "Can China". They have not chosen to do so but it is within their capability. The point is bitcoin's design was to make such c
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This not how Bitcoin operates. Bitcoin is protected against Sybil Attacks. If you add a valid hash, with invalid transactions, the full block will be rejected by other full nodes. At the end, the attacking node will be blac
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If you add a valid hash, with invalid transactions, the full block will be rejected by other full nodes. At the end, the attacking node will be blacklisted. A 51% attack can only remove some transactions, or change the order of some other transactions.
Or add a valid but fraudulent transaction. A 51% cartel controls the rejection process and the blacklist process.
China was the leading country, when the free market was able to operate. This is not the case anymore. China is a 'has been' place now. Your data are garbage, or misinformation.
My info is reality as it exists today.
Re:Bitcoin is the best - Decentralization matters! (Score:1)
When a correct hash is found, the block is sent to the other nodes. The nodes will check everything. Your invalid transaction will trigger a constraint issue, and the whole block will be flagged as invalid.The invalid block will be discarded. If this issue happens again, the attacking node will be blacklisted.
Here is an examp
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You should read the Bitcoin white paper. Bitcoin is a decentralized system.
In the white paper, in the design, but *not* in reality in the real world. The composition of the bitcoin mining network deviated from the design (ie 66% in China). That is the pesky little detail you are failing to recognize. In pursuit of greater profits the network has violated the underlying prerequisites of bitcoin. We do *not* have a decentralized network of miners. Period.
Miners have no privilege at all, they are the little hands of the system. They are just computing hashes.
LOL. The miners are verifying the transactions. They are the basis of the distributed consensus as to what is valid. I think you n
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You really don't get it.
Put your collocation server in the cabinet in the corner of the server room where the main server is located. Your single point of failure is no longer one server or the other, your single point is the server room, which going on fire will take both your servers out.
Bitcoin is controllable by whoever controls over 50% of its computing power. Whether it's a single individual, a consortium, or a bunch of separate individuals under threat of gun with goons under one central authority, i
Bitcoin is the best - Decentralization matters! (Score:1)
Blockchain was a nonsensical hype from the beginning. Nothing new or helpful was built using this concept. Blockchain was just a way to rename the concept of a database to sell the same product again. Now the hype is over.
China mining is not a threat to Bitcoin. The first Bitcoin hardware manufacturer is not Bitmain anymore. China lost most of their leadership in this industry with the demise of this company. China is not the country with the lower kWh price. China is not the best place to run Bitcoin minin
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Blockchain was a nonsensical hype from the beginning. Nothing new or helpful was built using this concept. Blockchain was just a way to rename the concept of a database to sell the same product again.
Nope, the novelty was in how the database was updated and authenticated.
China is not the best place to run Bitcoin mining operations.
Nope. "Bitcoin miners in China wield two-thirds of the network’s processing power (hash rate), and more than half of it is controlled by a single province." Data from May 2019. https://thenextweb.com/hardfor... [thenextweb.com]
The CCP was unable to undermine the security model of this unique decentralized system.
You are confusing "unable to" with "didn't try to". Bitcoin's design speaks to the danger of a 51% attack. 66% is in CCP jurisdiction.
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Nope, the novelty was in how the database was updated and authenticated.
We had applications, using databases with these methods, for decades (public key cryptography..). The only novelty was the marketing delirium.
...China...
Information is controlled very well in China. Nobody knows what really happened. The only certainty, the CCP is not powerful enough to undermine the security model of Bitcoin. This is likely the same thing we had with the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union data showed they were the number one superpower. We all know what happened after.
No, its not like other databases (Score:2)
Nope, the novelty was in how the database was updated and authenticated.
We had applications, using databases with these methods, for decades (public key cryptography..).
Nope, that is not consensus based authentication by a decentralized network.
...China...
The only certainty, the CCP is not powerful enough to undermine the security model of Bitcoin.
Nope, the "certainty" of Bitcoin rested upon a decentralized network of normal people mining from computers under their control, making a 51% attack undoable due to the computation power necessary and the cost a cartel would need. With 66% of mining in China as of May 2019 a 51% attack is plausible. These miners are dependent upon cheap government supplied electricity, they will protect their profits not the integrity of the bitcoin
Re:Bitcoin is the best - Decentralization matters! (Score:2)
This is the reason why decentralization is a one-time event. Who cares about a consensus, when one entity can update the software with everything they want.
If you put aside Bitcoin, everything else is centralized. Decentralization can't be imposed by a leader. Decentralization is not, a from top to bottom process. Decentralization can't be copied. Decentralization is an unforgeable costliness event. It happened one time, and one time only, with Bitcoin.
This attack is theoretical, the attacker can't
Miners only need to protect profit for attack ... (Score:2)
This attack is theoretical, the attacker can't fund itself using the network. This is now beyond any state capabilities.
With a supermajority of mining in China and dependent upon cheap state provided electricity the state needs to spend nothing. It merely needs to shut off the power to the miners if they decline to make a "reasonable" (in the CCP's opinion) update to the blockchain. The miners in the CCP's jurisdiction need only act to protect their profits for a state attack to be successful.
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Bitcoin is Technology and Economics. Bitcoin is the best on the economics side too. Money in the wild, is a winner take all situation. Bitcoin has a harder monetary policy than Gold. Bitcoin is designed as a continuation of the Gold Standard.
Bitcoin is a defensive technology. Bitcoin reaches the ultimate level: A zero attack surface.
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Re: I don't know... (Score:2)
It's probably just a weird blend of ignorance of and interest in crypto-currencies. They probably don't know what they're doing, but that probably means they'll just end up with a basic ERC-20 token built on the Ethereum network, which is probably just fine. This is pretty much the exact use case that ERC-20 was designed for.
Fascinating (Score:3)
Though the fact that it is cryptocurrency is irrelevant. It could just as well be Canadian Tire Money, or casino chips. The interesting thing of course is that all trade in and out of the city will require conversion to "real money" and I am sure that the "appointed converter" will take a not-insignificant fee for the conversion, just like all currently existing money fiefdoms do.
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Lol, you gotta be just a bit more subtle when doing a pump-and-dump scheme.
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This is more of a longer term con. What you are seeing is the establishment of extreme anything goes market capitalism in Africa, not colonialism based but internal, with more players trying to become the dominant corrupt financial hub of Africa. All about the ruthless exploitation of everyone not with the in group, whom ever that may be on a corporate/organised crime basis, similar to the US, just far more extreme.
As organised crime is embedded in the corporate schemes, things will become quite extreme whe
Re: Fascinating (Score:3)
Akon was born in St Louis. Or at least that's what his lyrics say. He's a colonizer like the rest of them.
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Saint Louis is also a city in Senegal [wikipedia.org] so maybe he was born in Senegal.
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Saint Louis is also a city in Senegal [wikipedia.org] so maybe he was born in Senegal.
It is way more confusing than that. He was born in St. Louis, MO to Senegalese parents and some of his childhood in Senegal. The wikipedia article does not specify if he visited Saint Louis, Senegal, sadly.
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Can I pay with my Coinye? (Score:1)
As a fellow rapper, I presume I can bring my own coins?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
If not I have to consider trading my wife for a few cows.
Kanye
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If not I have to consider trading my wife for a few cows.
Is she even worth a cow anymore? Maybe you'll get a couple steaks for her.
full disclosure (Score:3)
You will get exactly 1 cow for this is the current exchange rate of a hobbit.
2000 acres =~ 1.77 x 1.77 mi =~ 2.85 x 2.85 km == (Score:1)
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Re: 2000 acres =~ 1.77 x 1.77 mi =~ 2.85 x 2.85 km (Score:3)
Only cute ones.
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Re: 2000 acres =~ 1.77 x 1.77 mi =~ 2.85 x 2.85 km (Score:1)
Yes. 8 sq km is about 2.8km by 2.8km.
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Re: 2000 acres =~ 1.77 x 1.77 mi =~ 2.85 x 2.85 k (Score:1)
I'm not the original poster. And nobody is obfuscating the size. I'd say you're just overestimating it, perhaps because of where you live.
8sqkm may seem "huge" for people who live in an area measured in city blocks. Akon isn't going to be able to replicate lower Manhattan on his land.
For people not from ultra dense city centres, walking across areas this size counts as visiting the neighbours. Heck, here in Australia I have friends who have single properties larger than this, and they aren't even too far ou
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Akon isn't going to be able to replicate lower Manhattan on his land.
Of course not. You won't be able to build a Manhattan level of density without sufficient economic incentive to develop it. He's going to have a bunch of buildings in Akon city that are 2-3 stories at best. Helena, Montana (31,000 population) is roughly 10,500 acres which is five times the size of this proposed city. Bill Gates dropped millions to purchase 25,000 acres for a smart city.
This crypto city is going to be incredibly small and isn't going to have a large population and it is really going to be no
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Looking at it another way, Manhattan has a single park that's 40% of the total area of this proposed city.
Sure, you can pack people in like sardines but even a moderately sized town would be around ten times the size if you wanted it to be nice to live in.
Shutup and TAKE MY MONEY! (Score:2)
Shutup and TAKE MY MONEY!
I mean, who wouldn't want to plow all their hard-earned dough into this totally non-sketchy shit?
Re:Shutup and TAKE MY MONEY! (Score:4, Funny)
Asking for a white paper? How racist!
Don't they know the currency is backed by their store of vibranium?
Digital scarcity is a one-time event (Score:2)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitco... [reddit.com]
https://medium.com/@jimmysong/... [medium.com]
https://www.whatbitcoindid.com... [whatbitcoindid.com]
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Bitcoin matters.
Re: Digital scarcity is a one-time event (Score:3)
This will almost certainly not be based on Bitcoin's code. Bitcoin doesn't scale well for small rollouts because it's too susceptible to attack when there's no one mining.
This will probably be an ERC-20 token on the Ethereum network. ERC-20 tokens are like their own crypto-currencies, but they take advantage of the security of the larger underlying Ethereum network. In addition, they support swaps with other ERC-20 tokens, so it's easy to move money in and out without building an exchange infrastructure. Th
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You should stop listening to marketing people. The incentives are very important, and the incentives work only on a hard monetary system. Ethereum is a huge database. Ethereum is fully centralized, the incentives are incompatible with any decentralization. With centralization, you don't have any innovation.
You can fork the code, but you can't copy the only thing that matters: de
Re: Digital scarcity is a one-time event (Score:2)
Did you even read my comment? Did you read what Jimmy wrote?
He says in that second link that altcoins are shit. He's talking about the Bitcoin NETWORK, not the Bitcoin SOFTWARE. The software is nearly worthless without the network. Bitcoin Cash was the first fork, then Bitcoin SV. Each time it's forked, the new fork is worth less than the last one.
If the market for your currency is a single town in Africa, then how many miners do you think you'll have? The security of Bitcoin is provided by the miners. Anot
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https://medium.com/@100trillio... [medium.com]
Alts are centralized. Alts are a follow the leader process. Updating the software is easy. The value is not derived from the scarcity. There is no scarcity here: https:/ [twitter.com]
Re: Digital scarcity is a one-time event (Score:2)
But there's (almost) no protection against double spend on a new network. That comes from the mining pool.
Re: Digital scarcity is a one-time event (Score:2)
Ignorant.
Re: Digital scarcity is a one-time event (Score:2)
Do you have anything relevant to add?
What does any of that have to do with the discussion?
The price of Ethereum and its standing within the crypto-currency community are irrelevant to ERC-20 tokens. As long as the network lives, the ERC-20 tokens are unaffected.
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The main article was about a new Alt. Studying Bitcoin, reading the white paper, and understanding it, is the first step. The Jimmy Song article is important, the only
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The don't trust verify mindset is the right one; Alts were promoted in conferences biased by magical thinking and wishful thinking, You can't understand what happened here without understanding the Economic side and the Technological side.
Fairly easy to deal with (Score:3)
What's worrying is that, at this stage, there doesn't appear to be any white paper for Akon's cryptocurrency, so it's hard to gauge exactly what we're in for
You aren't "in for" anything if you don't give him your money. Seriously people can make such stupid "investment" decisions sometimes.
Finally! (Score:1)
Why did Senegal give Akon 2000 acres? (Score:5, Insightful)
I know Akon does good charity work in Senegal, but maybe charity wouldn't be so needed if the Senegalese president wasn't giving away the nation's land to wealthy expatriates.
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That's not correct - 2000 acres is 3.1 square miles, or 8.1 square kilometers.
The capital of Senegal has over 1 million people in 83 square kilometers, so "Akon City" could theoretically hold about 100,000 people - more than most business parks.
Me too! (Score:3)
My hamster Dopey created its own cryptocurrency known as Dopey's currency.
Is this an Underpants Gnome variation? (Score:3)
2) Build a new city on land the government gave you for free.
3) Use a brand new crypto coin in that new city.
4) ?????
5) Profit!
Cryptonomicon... (Score:2)
I must admit, ... sounds like fun! (Score:2)
Apart from the cryptocurrency snake oil, I think everyone here who wants things to run differently, dreams of doing something like this.
I say good on him. At least he's trying to improve the world, with what he got.
Unlike most other bickering cowards.
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Bitcoin is very real. Having real digital scarcity is a breakthrough! If you put aside Bitcoin, everything else is snake oil. Decentralization can't be imposed by a leader. Decentralization is not, a from top to bottom process. Decentralization can't be copied. Decentralization is an unforgeable costliness event. It happened one time, and one time only, with Bitcoin.
One thing is for certain (Score:2)
Nothing of value will be lost in this one.
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It's funny how coincidences warn you (Score:2)
Investing with a guy named "Akon" sounds like it should go about as well as working with a guy named "Madoff".