Don't Expect Any Windows 10X Devices This Calendar Year, Says Microsoft (zdnet.com) 22
Microsoft is setting internal expectations that it won't deliver any Windows 10X devices in calendar 2020, ZDNet reports. From a report: This isn't really surprising, given what's going on externally with the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic. But for enthusiasts who were looking forward to dual-screen Surface Neo devices this holiday season, the reality is taking root. My contacts say that Chief Product Officer Panos Panay informed some of his team internally today, April 8, that Microsoft wouldn't be delivering its own Surface Neo dual-screen 10X devices this calendar year. In addition, Microsoft also won't be enabling third-party dual-screen Windows devices to ship with 10X in calendar 2020, I hear.
Umm... thanks for the warning..? (Score:3)
I guess?
Seriously, was anyone anxiously holding their breath over that?
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Windows 10X is a new version of Windows 10 that been built from the ground up for foldable PC experiences in both dual-screen and single-screen configurations.
I just rapidly expelled my breath out my nose.
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Ewww. Cleanup crew to aisle 2 please!
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It is actually significant. "Built from the ground up" in this case means that they've abandoned all the legacy code and are making it as a new OS. So there's no cruft. That's also the reason that they've stipulated it won't run on old hardware. It's built from scratch for the current-gen hardware, so it doesn't have to compromise.
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Microsoft building something from scratch...and we are to believe there is no cruft in it? Bwahahahahahahaha...
Re: Umm... thanks for the warning..? (Score:2)
Viruses arenâ(TM)t all bad.
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"I guess?
Seriously, was anyone anxiously holding their breath over that?"
Users were still hopeful.
Both of them.
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Seriously, was anyone anxiously holding their breath over that?
Only people who like to try new things and experiment with technology. Certainly there's no people here on Ludditedot like that.
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New things? When was the last time anything really new came out of MS?
All eight people waiting for them are disappointed (Score:3)
Microsoft just can't seem to embrace the fact that nobody wants their consumer electronics. Phones failed, their Alexa clone failed, Xbox is losing is mojo, Surface only started to do half-decent because it ran Win32 apps; not one variant of 'Surface' or 'Windows' that failed to run Win32 applications sold well.
Iterate Windows, Office and the Server products, rent out Azure, and keep the cash cows flowing. Either that, or create an entirely new product line and treat it as such - 'Windows' on anything but a desktop or laptop won't sell.
Re:All eight people waiting for them are disappoin (Score:4, Interesting)
Microsoft just can't seem to embrace the fact that nobody wants their consumer electronics. Phones failed, their Alexa clone failed, Xbox is losing is mojo, Surface only started to do half-decent because it ran Win32 apps; not one variant of 'Surface' or 'Windows' that failed to run Win32 applications sold well.
Iterate Windows, Office and the Server products, rent out Azure, and keep the cash cows flowing. Either that, or create an entirely new product line and treat it as such - 'Windows' on anything but a desktop or laptop won't sell.
The surface line has been really quite successful. Not remotely 'Apple successful,' but they have quickly become the go-to Windows ultrabook line. They aren't revolutionary, they're just the safest best bet for something compact with a good display and enough power.
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The surface line has been really quite successful. Not remotely 'Apple successful,' but they have quickly become the go-to Windows ultrabook line. They aren't revolutionary, they're just the safest best bet for something compact with a good display and enough power.
Right - Surface has been successful in terms of being a premium PC. They are x86-64 based and run the same Windows 10 OS as other desktops and laptops. I am hard pressed to point to a commercially successful Surface model that didn't fit that description. Any time Microsoft tried selling a tablet that ran on ARM and was an app-store only affair, it failed. A nontrivial part of this is that, while there are plenty of iPad-only apps, the reverse isn't true for Microsoft. On top of that, while Apple managed to
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Surface only started to do half-decent because it ran Win32 apps; not one variant of 'Surface' or 'Windows' that failed to run Win32 applications sold well.
I don't understand what you mean by this. The surface by running Win32 apps competes with millions of desktops, laptops, tablets, and even spawned a new form factor which several people copied. So yeah "half-decent" is a strange way of saying it has had a visible affect on the industry and is happily competing within it.
As for the Xbox losing its mojo it's a 7 year old outdated gaming console. Of course it's losing its mojo. Playstation is also losing its mojo. Anyone who wanted one bought one 4+ years ago.
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Surface only started to do half-decent because it ran Win32 apps; not one variant of 'Surface' or 'Windows' that failed to run Win32 applications sold well.
I don't understand what you mean by this. The surface by running Win32 apps competes with millions of desktops, laptops, tablets, and even spawned a new form factor which several people copied. So yeah "half-decent" is a strange way of saying it has had a visible affect on the industry and is happily competing within it.
Because the first iteration of the Surface was the RT. It was ARM based, touch-only, locked bootloaders, and could only get programs from the MS App Store. It lasted less than a year on store shelves, with the Surface 2 and 3 each lasting less than two each as well, and none of them sold well, in no small part because they did not run x86 applications.
You're referring to the Surface Pro. It didn't 'spawn a new form factor', as the screen-only, touch-first paradigm was well established by the iPad, itself ta
What? No shitty unsecure software? (Score:2)
amen (Score:2)
Blame it (Score:2)
Blame it on the virus. Blame it on the pandemic. Milk it for a year, or two, maybe even three. Blame it on the virus.
I for one (Score:1)
Where Is the Love? (Score:2)
Wait, I'm not seeing the fanbois here crying...omg, sky is falling and all that!
This line in particular made me laugh...
"But for enthusiasts who were looking forward to dual-screen Surface Neo devices this holiday season, the reality is taking root."
Maybe they all found a safe space.
Microsoft "version numbers". (Score:1)
Windows 6 = Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10, 10X
I don't even have an idea what might follow next. "Windows 10Xten", and then "Windows 10Xten.---- ----"? Or "Windows 11 for Spinaltapgroups"? (Only usable after 11.3.)
Insert free advert for MICROS~1 (Score:2)