Microsoft Is Bombarding Chrome-Using Outlook.com Visitors With Ads For Edge (betanews.com) 83
An anonymous reader quotes a report from BetaNews: Microsoft is no stranger to hitting its customers with ads for its products and services, and it seems that the company is so keen that people make the switch to the new Chromium-based version of Edge that it is now bombarding Outlook.com users with banner ads. The ads are targeting people who visit the web-based version of Outlook using Google Chrome, and they see Microsoft extolling the speed and performance of its most recent web browser.
As spotted by Windows Latest a series of ads appear at the top of Outlook.com encouraging people to try out Microsoft Edge. In the ads, Microsoft claims that Edge brings "the best of the web," makes "Outlook more accessible," and boosts "speed, performance and compatibility." The good news about the latest batch of ads from Microsoft is that they are not terribly persistent. While there are a number of different banner ads which are displayed in rotation after a refresh or on each new visit to Outlook.com, once they have been dismissed they do not seem to make a reappearance.
As spotted by Windows Latest a series of ads appear at the top of Outlook.com encouraging people to try out Microsoft Edge. In the ads, Microsoft claims that Edge brings "the best of the web," makes "Outlook more accessible," and boosts "speed, performance and compatibility." The good news about the latest batch of ads from Microsoft is that they are not terribly persistent. While there are a number of different banner ads which are displayed in rotation after a refresh or on each new visit to Outlook.com, once they have been dismissed they do not seem to make a reappearance.
oh.. (Score:5, Insightful)
The same like Google does when coming to one of their websites. I so many times get a bar in top of the browser of a google owned website if I want to start using Chrome. Go to Youtube and a lot of times you'll get that bar too.
So don't act like it's Microsoft only who tries to lure you to their browser as Google did it first..
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Yeah, I was gonna say turnabout's fair play. Google are the kings of constantly trying to push you to use Chrome. Chrome got to its dominant position thanks to Google's aggressive marketing.
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Son, are you dumb?
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Re: What a logic! (Score:2)
I'm sorry you got overwhelmed by an argument that a small child can follow,
but how is that our problem?
Re: What a logic! (Score:2)
Also, that AC was not me. I don't even know how people can still.post as AC. For me it just says that feature has been turned off. (My IP block was likely the source of a lot of ACs posts, given my proximity to the CS department of an university and a large computer club. I can only guess /. blocked ACs for my block. )
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Re: What a logic! (Score:2)
That's a beautiful example of the Dunning-Kruger effect right there!
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I get the ads for Chrome any time I visit the Google search page (pretty infrequent now, I tend to use DuckDuckGo), any time I visit Google Translate, and occasionally on YouTube.
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I guess they recognize that we few dozen Firefox users are probably a lost cause. If we haven't switched by now, best to just leave us be.
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TBH I'm surprised I don't get pushed to use edge when I Bing for stuff. Google got it's market share by pushing it's browser every time you google for something, in the UK they even had a huge chrome ad push via bill-boards.
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Remember when Microsoft was hit with a monopoly lawsuit for having IE preinstalled? I remember.
Remember when Google was hit with a monopoly lawsuit for using its dominant position to promote his services? And including Chrome preinstalled in every Android device? I don't.
Re:oh.. (Score:5, Interesting)
The one that EU is currently working on?
It took EU bureaucracy years to formulate the case and then years in courts and almost a year of fines get MS to decouple IE from Windows. It's going to take at least as much with Google. Give it time, it's coming and precedent is already set.
Re: oh.. (Score:1)
When you Bing for stuff? Did you really just say that? You must work for Microsoft.
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No, I just really don't like Google.
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I don't either, but that's why I use DuckDuckGo.
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It also helped that Chrome was ninja installed with a lot of other programs.
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MS too scared to do that no doubt, they could easily silent install it and suggest you try it now on the start menu.
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I so many times
Sounds like you clear your cookies after each session.
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Sounds like you clear your cookies after each session.
And why not? Let them have to rejigger the data they get from you. It throws off their metrics as to how many "unique" visitors they get.
It's like people whining they can't read a New York Times article. Clear the cookies from the site and you're good to go. But then, that takes the barest amount of effort so we won't do that.
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Sounds like you clear your cookies after each session.
And why not?
I clear them (except those of the regular sites I visit) when I'm reminded by any particularly patronising notice that I'm being stuffed with them, notices usually starting with "We value your privacy ..." which actually means " Your privacy has a sale value to us, and fuck you ...".
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Yep, you'd think it would be an update for Edge, not a separate download.
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There's a big difference. (Score:2)
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Re:oh.. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Either all ads are bombardment or none are.
I'm of the former opinion. Some people insist they must keep their lives free of gluten or rap music, I think being told what to think what to like what to buy, "ignored" or not, is a source of brain decay and something you can often avoid. Services, locations, goods, websites, software, as if your life wasn't already saturated with being treated as a number, a demographic. When grandpa said TV will rot your brain, he meant the miasma of manipulative messages.
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As much as I would like to bash Microsoft. I agree these are just two giants fighting each other.
The only difference we could argue (because I really want to bash Microsoft) is that Outlook.com is more focused around enterprise email solutions meant for business, while Google and Gmail are often better suited for the average home consumer. The Home user can normally just install whatever software they feel like to block annoying messages. Most enterprise systems, Installing a browser is just opening a c
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Adblock is your friend, advertisers are your enemy.
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The same like Google does when coming to one of their websites. I so many times get a bar in top of the browser of a google owned website if I want to start using Chrome.
I use Firefox, Google and YouTube, and I've never seen a ad for Chrome. Maybe they think you are a soft touch.
Only targetting Chrome... (Score:3)
So... They figure Firefox users are a lost cause if they already won't drink Google's Kool-Aid? Or their features just don't support Firefox? Bit of both?
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Well the logic is probably that if you've rejected Google's Chrome you'll reject MS's Crome.
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They could call it "Edge 2.0".
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MS' Chrome = New Chrome
Google's Chrome = Chrome Classic
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Maybe they're more interested in reducing Google's grip on the browser market. Firefox users already aren't using Chrome.
Perhaps because Google can't sue them for that? (Score:1)
Perhaps because Google can't sue them for that (since they did the same shit, even when I was using chromium based Opera), unlike Firefox?
Nothing to see here, move along (Score:5, Insightful)
I guess it's a slow news day. Microsoft should be advertising their browser this way vs all the other crappy ways many do it. We should be kudoing them for their civility and others should follow the example.
It's an ad space, some ad will be there. Better a civil, properly targeted, simple one over a blaring, content hiding, seizure inducing, useless one.
Let's encourage MS on this stuff to they continue to do it this way rather than the "We are 2x* faster**; our research says*** so." crap.
People who use Outlook.com ... (Score:2)
... are lost causes anyway?
If you want to help them, a nice calm room in a mental facility with extensive parks around it, could at least alleviate their state a little bit. But I don't think much else can be done that would not amount to brainwashing as morally unacceptable as that of the perpetrators that did this to them.
I wonder though, if it is at all a life worth living.
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...but using outlook.com is the only way I can keep my MSN.COM email address.
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Bombarding (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm pretty sure the term bombarding implies a continuous and sustained attack rather than showing someone an advert once and not again after it's been dismissed.
But we need OUTRAGE!
Microsoft should be focusing on IE users (Score:2)
And firefox and safari users too (Score:2)
I normaly use firefox, with safari my second option (chrome is installed in my machine only for the benefit of my two chromecasts).
In both instances, whenever I enter to Outlook.com I get that publicity.
But I guess that's par for the course. As some other posters have indicated, Google does pretty much the same (sugesting you switch to chrome) with firefox and safary when you enter their properties, so, no biggie. I just ignore the ads and keep on chugging.
it gets worse (Score:1)
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You should get the kid a Linux box.
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My 9yr old has a Microsoft child account. I have turned off all app restrictions, however he is not allowed to use chrome without asking me and has to ask every 3 hours. There is no off option, no fix, no reply from Microsoft support. Every single other application works. After a few days of this he comes to me and tells me about how Edge is better because of whatever the Edge splash screen says. It's the only browser he can use now and neither of us have a choice in the matter.
Of course you do. Remember, this is not forced on you, this is opt-in, and you opt-in by using Windows. You've opted into it, so stop whining about it.
If you don't want the shitty experience you are currently complaining about, use an alternative, but don't try to pretend that you didn't willingly choose this experience.
I reject your reality (Score:2)
i just wiped windows off a laptop (Score:2)
Re:i just wiped windows off a laptop (Score:4, Interesting)
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To be clear, you took an older, unused win 10 laptop, attempted to apply 5 years worth of updates, had a problem with an update and erased the OS?
That the restore DVD is as old as the laptop is not surprising.
You can download a tool from Microsoft to create installation media for the latest version of Windows 10 from Microsoft, I leave it to you to figure out how to search for it on the web.
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Who does it right? Ubuntu has 2x major releases a year, I can't imagine the hoops I'd have to jump thru to update 2015 Ubuntu to 2020 Ubuntu thru the software upgrade tool they supply. I have a 19.04 Ubuntu laptop that needed a release upgrade (no more updates) that required a 1 gig download to bring it to 19.10, I haven't tried 19.10 to 20.04 (current)...
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microsoft is not doing things right
Actually you're not doing things right. Microsoft has a media creation tool on its sit that downloads a current and up to date image for installation. Did you get like an original Windows 10 copy from 2016 and install it from DVD or some shit like that? Requiring updates and also saying that they failed certainly points towards you doing something very strange.
otherwise the huge DVD that installs a 5 year old operating system
Yeah. Next time download Windows from www.microsoft.com (the oldest version you can currently download is 2 months old), not www.freewindows10honest.
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takes even longer to download and install updates
I'm confused. Why and how do you even see the update process? Both of these are done in the background and now even for major feature updates a reboot at the end of the update took less time than it takes to download an Ubuntu ISO. Were you running a Windows version from 3 years ago or something?
As for the fresh install it *is* a net update and doesn't download anything after a fresh install unless you chose to make the media or hit the clean install button a year before you intended to use it.
Man you must
Slow news day? (Score:2)
Wonder what it would say (Score:2)
My Browser reports itself as "FuckYou/2.0". Google wants me to upgrade to the current version because this browser will soon be no longer supported by Google. I wonder what Microsoft says about it? (Nothing other than Google & Microsoft seems to care).
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Dude, we're in 2020. You really should upgrade to "FuckYou/3.0".
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In this historic month, you should be running FuckYou4/20.
Ad blocker? (Score:1)
Microsoft Edge... Still the Most Popular Browser!! (Score:2)
....... for downloading other browsers.
Bombard? (Score:2)
is now bombarding Outlook.com users with banner ads.
The good news about the latest batch of ads from Microsoft is that they are not terribly persistent.
once they have been dismissed they do not seem to make a reappearance.
You and I must have different definitions for the word "bombarding"...
Encouraging users of their free email service to try their free browser when they log in to the website with a particular browser with a one-time per-visit banner ad is now a problem?
Grow up.
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is now bombarding Outlook.com users with banner ads.
The good news about the latest batch of ads from Microsoft is that they are not terribly persistent.
once they have been dismissed they do not seem to make a reappearance.
You and I must have different definitions for the word "bombarding"...
Encouraging users of their free email service to try their free browser when they log in to the website with a particular browser with a one-time per-visit banner ad is now a problem?
Grow up.
Sorry, borked the html
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Ok to me (Score:2)
So? (Score:2)
Irony (Score:2)
Microsoft: Hey you! Stop using Google Chrome and switch to our version of Chrome!
Me: Wait, what?
Nope (Score:2)
>"Microsoft Is Bombarding Chrome-Using Outlook.com Visitors With Ads For Edge "
No, it is bombarding *ALL* non-Edge users with an Ad for Edge. I know, because it did it to me and I use Firefox exclusively. It is the exact same thing Google did to all non-Chrome users on their search page, for well over a YEAR, trying to push them to Chrome.
And no, I don't like it at all. There are numerous, very good reasons I use Firefox and recommend it to others. I don't appreciate such banners/ads/"suggestions."