AMD Launches Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 Low Cost, Low Power Quad-Core CPUs (hothardware.com) 28
MojoKid writes: AMD unveiled two new Ryzen 3 processors recently, designed to drive its Zen 2 CPU microarchitecture into more affordable price points. The new Ryzen 3 3100 and Ryzen 3 3300X are entry-level 3rd gen Ryzen CPUs that will run in any socket AM4 motherboard, with price points of only $99 (Ryzen 3 3100) and $120 (Ryzen 3 3300X). They are both quad-core/eight-thread chips, with similar cache configurations (2MB L2 + 16MB L3), and they both include basic Wraith Stealth coolers in their retail boxes. Internally, however, these two processors are somewhat different. The Ryzen 3 3100 is setup in a 2+2 configuration with two cores active per CCX (CPU Core Complex). The Ryzen 3 3300X, however, has a 4+0 configuration, with all of its active cores residing on a single CCX. These differences should result in better overall performance for the Ryzen 3 3300X, over and above just having a higher peek clock speed of 4.3GHz, versus 3.90Ghz for the Ryzen 3 3100. In the benchmarks, these new AMD quad-core chips offer similar or better performance versus competitive Intel Core i5 chips, but at significantly lower price points.
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AnandTech used to be my first choice. I've slowly switched over to Gamer's Nexus who also [youtube.com] included the i7 7700K. What I like about them is that they also include a text writeup [gamersnexus.net] so you can pick between watching the video and/or the text info.
It's pretty sad when an R3 beats an i7. Well, sad for intel, great for consumers.
I think AMD's unofficial motto is becoming:
We put the AMD in Amdahl's Law :-)
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It really is mind blowing isn't it it to see CPUs get so inexpensive that a "bottom" end CPU competes with a mid-end CPU !
I wouldn't say the i7 7700K is a head end CPU though -- but you DO raise an interesting point:
Q. What defines a high end CPU?
A. IMHO it is core count AND memory channels -- if we take a page out of the HEDT nomenclature.
i.e. R9 3950X is dipping into the bottom of HEDT territory. (High End DeskTop)
i.e.
Low End: <= 4 cores
Mid End: > 4 and < 16 cores
High End: >= 16 cores (and id
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I like Game's Nexus content but the actual videos are borderline incomprehensible becasue of how the guy rushes through a ton of data. Maybe I'm just stupid but I can't absorb an endless stream of model and benchmark numbers.
The i7 is three years old and it doesn't always beat it but still that's pretty good performance for the money. What I'm really looking forward though is the 4000 series on the desktop. The laptop parts seem to be downright amazing so if that scales up, I don't think Intel's 10th gen wo
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> actual videos are borderline incomprehensible because of how the guy rushes through a ton of data
Yeah, that is a common complaint but I would rather have too much info. then not enough though. In this industry I think it is really hard to find the right balance of time and information. Spend too little time and people will go to other "hard core" news sites. Spend too much and people start tuning out.
There are two things I find really helpful:
* There is a slider bar on the left side that visually sho
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It's worse than that for Intel. These new Ryzen 3 parts are cheaper than used Intel 7700Ks and on a par or even slightly better for performance. And overall they are much cheaper when you include the motherboard cost. And of course you are not buying a used part.
Gamers Nexus has some in depth details. IMHO their tests are the best in the business.
AMD are dominating in pretty much every class now. Ryzen 3 """low""" end budget machines, Ryzen 5 mid range desktop, Ryzen 7 high end desktop, Threadripper worksta
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Intel still has two things going for it: software optimization and instructions per clock. They're utterly dominant in former, and have a marginal advantage in latter.
Essentially when it comes to photoshop, games and not having to fuck around with software because of some weird AMD specific bug, intel remains the best pick. Everything else though, it's AMD or bust now.
Let's hope intel doesn't engage in more monopoly shenanigans to sink AMD as it did in the past and instead actually starts to push progress i
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Any microscopic advantage Intel has will be utterly negated as soon as the next critical security flaw in their CPUs is discovered.
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Too true. Funniest part is, those vulnerabilities are utterly irrelevant for a typical gaming PC, but intel will still push mitigations into bios updates and windows updates, and with state of win10, you often won't even stop them from installing.
Because fuck you gamers, server lives matter.
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I basically just play games on my PC and I haven't run into any issues with my AMD cpu. I think I have a 2600x?
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The "I haven't run into any issues with x" is the single worst argument in the world.
I haven't run into any major issues with my Windows ME back in the day. Which I ran for several years. Seriously. Does that mean that Windows ME was excellent, bug free OS?
No, it just means that I was in the group of users that didn't hit any of the massive array of OS bugs and issues that Windows ME is remembered for. And I was far from being alone. But that OS was an unmitigated disaster.
Funniest part is, I ran Windows ME
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Interesting point on ME, but it's had a lot more problems than just driver/hardware related issues as far as I know. I've had to untangle some really interesting messes on friends' configurations in that age.
As for current situation, my understanding is that today 3600x is the sweet spot for gaming right now (performance/price). I currently run a decently overclocked i5 6600k (4c/4t) on my main desktop machine, and I've seen games choke on four cores. Far Cry 5 comes to mind as an example. Six cores seems t
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its called passive cooling :)
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