Catch up on stories from the past week (and beyond) at the Slashdot story archive

 



Forgot your password?
typodupeerror
×
Facebook Social Networks Technology

As Advertisers Revolt, Facebook Commits To Flagging 'Newsworthy' Political Speech That Violates Policy (techcrunch.com) 58

As advertisers pull away from Facebook to protest the social networking giant's hands-off approach to misinformation and hate speech, the company is instituting a number of stronger policies to woo them back. From a report: In a livestreamed segment of the company's weekly all-hands meeting, CEO Mark Zuckerberg recapped some of the steps Facebook is already taking, and announced new measures to fight voter suppression and misinformation -- although they amount to things that other social media platforms like Twitter have already enacted and enforced in more aggressive ways.

At the heart of the policy changes is an admission that the company will continue to allow politicians and public figures to disseminate hate speech that does, in fact, violate the Facebook's own guidelines -- but it will add a label to denote they're remaining on the platform because of their "newsworthy" nature. It's a watered down version of the more muscular stance that Twitter has taken to limit the ability of its network to amplify hate speech or statements that incite violence. [...] Zuckerberg's remarks came days of advertisers -- most recently Unilever and Verizon -- announced that they're going to pull their money from Facebook as part the #StopHateforProfit campaign organized by civil rights groups.

This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.

As Advertisers Revolt, Facebook Commits To Flagging 'Newsworthy' Political Speech That Violates Policy

Comments Filter:
  • Unilever (Score:5, Interesting)

    by slack_justyb ( 862874 ) on Friday June 26, 2020 @04:43PM (#60232112)

    That's not small potatoes with Unilever pulling out for the rest of the year. Unilever is a massive conglomeration. Facebook loosing Unilever is tectonic in magnitude. Just checked, Facebook is down 8% today. People can feel however they want to feel about Facebook or Twitters method of flagging hate speech or lack thereof, but money walks and Unilever pulling out is absolutely going to do more on rapidly changing those policies.

    Now all the other ramifications of a big company's dollar affecting change faster than (insert your preferred method for change here), I leave that to all the other threads to debate. But we all know that much money walking out your door will get anyone moving on whatever plans are in the "planning phase".

    • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

      It's just corporate cabal bullshit. The corporate cabal is just providing Facebook with the excuse for mass censorship so too many people do not leave and can continue to be manipulated by corporations, and the ability of the people to communicate with each other will of course be monitored and censored. Just drop Facebook the censorship and manipulation will continue to increase, even adding in AI friends who will tell you want kind of arsehole you are if you do not love your corporate masters.

      Stick with F

      • by Anonymous Coward
        Interesting you use the word "cabal" to describe who's behind this "scheme" to censor the right to spread lies. For those unaware, "cabal" is the historical term to say "The Jews are secretly behind this." Sorry if I exposed your "level".
  • by dschnur ( 61074 ) on Friday June 26, 2020 @05:10PM (#60232192)
    Other than still having with a few specific groups for people to share interests and information, Facebook has become ground zero of group-think and a perfect example of confirmation theory writ-large. They have traded their former all-inclusive appeal for something much darker.

    Having a loyal audience, beholden to a corporation's whims has been quite profitable for many news organizations. When they can find (or create) someone's pain, and then convince them they have the only solution that will make that person feel better, they will keep that person coming back for more. It's basic sales training. It's amazing what you can make a person purchase or believe. We are social creatures! We are easy to take advantage of if done correctly. It seems Facebook is trying to follow this path. Only problem is, they are playing all sides -- and they bring those sides close together. It's the digital equivalent of having two opposing groups demonstrating at the same time and place. Nothing good comes of that. An advertiser may shrug off the issues advertising on a news site since all the viewers are like-minded. Facebook's playing with fire and is now getting singed!

    If i was an advertiser, that's exactly the medium I wouldn't want my brand to be associated with. Think of this, when someone logs into Facebook and sees a post that counters their own self-image, it's painful to them. Why would I want my brand to be in any way associated with that?

    Thoughts?
  • When the money is at stake, they start thinking about changing. Who could have predicted?
  • Wow, if you do what they want and dog on trump, you get the stamp of approval. Even if you've done that consistently, if you "slip up" and don't toe the line enough, you're an "uncle Tom" and the subject of mob ridicule.

    Facebook absolutely sucks, in general, but I can't help but get a chuckle out of the mental gymnastics the left goes through to push the "no orange man" agenda.

    Wake me up when it's over.

    • Wow, if you do what they want and dog on trump, you get the stamp of approval. Even if you've done that consistently, if you "slip up" and don't toe the line enough, you're an "uncle Tom" and the subject of mob ridicule.

      The problem is not the subject of posts but rather the information itself. If the information is false then it is harmful as it's been proven that a lot of people cannot tell fact from fiction. Having torrents of conflicting information can make it difficult to discern what is reality without having prior knowledge of the situation. The current US President's involvement is coincidental not fundamental and frankly it's difficult to believe you unwittingly conflated the two.

  • Simulating a human is getting harder and harder for it. #zuckerpunch
  • I guess some people are just more equal and free than others. Today it is politicians and public figures.
  • Money talks, bullshit walks.

    • Unfortunately (Score:4, Insightful)

      by junkgoof ( 607894 ) on Friday June 26, 2020 @09:12PM (#60232982)
      Problem is the money is for the propaganda so you get Fox News (fair and balanced, but in court our argument is "it's opinion and no one would really believe it") and OAN targeting the gullible who are helpfully catalogued by facebook and google as the whales who click on ads. You need to translate:

      AGW: Using an acronym and a long word (anthropomorphic) to make it look like there is complexity and debate about the fact that we are shitting where we eat. Some creatures will likely benefit but it won't be us, we are making parts of the planet to hot for humans.

      What trump said: most of his tweets are nutjobbery but he tweets both sides of most issues so you can either mock his inconsistency or seize on the minority of stuff he got right. Guess what Fox/OAN do.

      Virtue signaling: not making the world burn. If you do anything good you're not being a greedy horrible person so you must be a hypocrite. Only a valid argument for the 0.1% or the very gullible.

      Snowflake: a term used in context to mock conservatives that they are using against their opponents using the Rove/Goebbels principle that you accuse others of what you are.

      Triggered: we can't win the argument logically so if we can piss off our opponents by obtuseness we still win by default.

      Cuck: We have totally lost the argument but we can resort to random name calling.

      Fair and balanced: if you take us to court it is "for entertainment purposes only"

      Fox news: no longer a news channel. Reclassified in 2018.

      Inequality: to quote Russell Brand "when I was poor and I criticized inequality they said I was jealous. Once I was rich and said the same thing they said I was a hypocrite." They just don't like the message. Them and the 0.1%.

      Government regulation: Fox news hates it. The most powerful force for positive action that we have, and they hate it. Acid rain is gone because of regulation, lead in gasoline likewise. The American government has been neutered by conservatism for the last 4 decades but there are still positive effects.
      • What's your definition of the following?

        Racist

        Do better

        Black lives matter

        Defend the police

        Silence = violence

        Deplorable

        Bitter clinger

        White supremacist

        Black

        African American

        Jamaican

        African
      • Problem is the money is for the propaganda so you get Fox News (fair and balanced, but in court our argument is "it's opinion and no one would really believe it")

        Never happened. What you're thinking of is Alex Jones who has been sued many times and once famously used the defense that he was "playing a character" and that no reasonable person would believe some of the things he says. While Alex Jones does seem to largely have a right-wing following these days, he had previously been quite popular amongst largely left-wing 9/11 conspiracy theorists during the Bush administration.

        The fact that you're confusing Fox News and Alex Jones doesn't surprise me in the least;

  • by ayesnymous ( 3665205 ) on Saturday June 27, 2020 @01:26AM (#60233450)
    It's been less than a week since major companies stopped advertising. That's the only way Facebook will do anything. Someone hits them in the wallet.
  • Votes in Hong Kong.

    Fuck you zuck

  • by Stephen Chadfield ( 7971 ) on Saturday June 27, 2020 @04:10AM (#60233686) Homepage

    Facebook and Twitter are Marxist propaganda outlets. I only make posts there that I hope will worsen the atmosphere and make them less attractive to advertisers. I want big brands to feel uncomfortable about placing adverts with these companies.

  • Facebook should treat all gooses and ganders the same. The fact that one is a "politician" should not be justification for acting with impunity. This is exactly the same thing we have seen with the Police who believe that they are impervious to the law that applies to everyone else and can do whatever the fuck they please with impunity and immunity.

    It is time for Police to *suffer* the consequences of their actions and quite time for politicans and shills to be held accountable in the same fashion as ever

  • Hate speech today = anything right of Marx

Think of it! With VLSI we can pack 100 ENIACs in 1 sq. cm.!

Working...