Hundreds of Hyperpartisan Sites Are Masquerading as Local News (niemanlab.org) 116
The growth of partisan media masquerading as state and local reporting is a troubling trend we've seen emerge amid the financial declines of local news organizations. But what do these outlets mean for journalism in American communities? NiemanLab: Using previous research and news reports as a guide, we've mapped the locations of more than 400 partisan media outlets -- often funded and operated by government officials, political candidates, PACs, and political party operatives -- and found, somewhat unsurprisingly, that these outlets are emerging most often in swing states, raising a concern about the ability of such organizations to fill community information needs while prioritizing the electoral value of an audience. We found that while left-leaning sites prioritize statewide reporting, right-leaning sites are more focused on local reporting, suggesting different strategies for engaging with targeted audiences and indicating the potential for these sites to exacerbate polarization in local communities.
Example of a hyper partisan site (Score:5, Informative)
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USA Today on it's own managed that all on their lonesome with their nazi eagle bullshit.
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The underlying problem here: conservatives are going to lie, repeatedly. DARVO is a pattern common to narcissistic abusers. https://dynamic.uoregon.edu/jj... [uoregon.edu]
Re: Example of a hyper partisan site (Score:2, Informative)
It is sad you can not tell the difference between opinion shows and news.
Who ever claimed those people are journalists or news people?
You must have been confused by how the NYT is run.
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Are these examples of sites that aren't, or are these examples of sites you don't like? As has been said before, reality often has a liberal bias. That must be why you need a fake version manufactured for you.
One of the most interesting things about today is that people who are fooled by the cheap lies of an obvious and infamous con man are not ashamed of it but parade around bragging about it.
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George Stephanopolus just last night was hound Adam Schiff, of The Russia Hoax fame, to impeach our President for using the Constitutional pardon power. If that ain't some hyperpartisan bullshit, I don't know what is.
Before you call out the mote of cheap lies from the con man, you might want to deal with the beam of lies coming from the sources listed.
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More hyper-partisan alt-right disinformation. First, Russiagate was not a hoax. Russia really did help Trump get elected. Russia has been laundering money through Trump for decades. They knew Trump would hurt America, and they were right.
Second, Trump did not "pardon" Roger Stone. A pardon is an admission of guilt. Those who are pardoned can be compelled to testify about their crimes. Trump commuted his sentence. World of difference, and practically an admission of guilt.
Y'all are traitors. Freedom and demo
Re: Example of a hyper partisan site (Score:2)
Holy shit! You have information about Trump's traitorous ties to RUSSIA! that no one else seems to have! And facts about how they got Trump elected!
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Fuck you.
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Of course, the Fox model is that since many other cable news networks have a small liberal bias, that they will counter with a massive far right bias with stories that don't even attempt to hide an editorial slant, and outright fake stories that the average viewer immediately recognizes as bullshit, but bullshit for their favorite team. Much of this stye of news was adopted from the fake sports industry of professional wrestling. This style immediately pushed some of the small left bias news channels to go
Re:Example of a hyper partisan site (Score:5, Interesting)
Frankly, this is far more insightful than the article. That's been a problem for quite some time.
Also, there are a couple things of immediate note.
First is that out of the "more than 400" only 24 were labeled "liberal" or about 5%. Why isn't this a headline, and why is there highlighted commentary that might suggests both-sides-ism when that is quite clearly not the case? There is a grotesque false equivalence wallpapered over here.
Second, I went to the one and only "left" site in Texas, because it's in my town, and they make it EXTREMELY clear they are a progressive media company pushing a "progressive message". Absolutely no "masquerade" at all. They're acting as if HuffPo is a pretending to be news.
I'm not bothering to check the "right-leaning" sites because it's a bad look whether they masquerade or not. The fact is the article substantially misrepresents the issue, almost as though the authors are masquerading as journalists.
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Re:Example of a hyper partisan site (Score:4, Insightful)
Frankly, this is far more insightful than the article. That's been a problem for quite some time.
Also, there are a couple things of immediate note.
First is that out of the "more than 400" only 24 were labeled "liberal" or about 5%. Why isn't this a headline, and why is there highlighted commentary that might suggests both-sides-ism when that is quite clearly not the case? There is a grotesque false equivalence wallpapered over here.
Probably because if they didn't play up the "both sides" argument then a bunch of right wing people would start screaming about how it's all fake news. Which is ironic, since this article is about actual fake news.
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Golly!
I sure am glad that only one of the duopoly party teams slants their news.
News is political, biased, and extremist... (Score:1)
News at 6!
No fucking shit sherlock, but you still need to read them all to get their perspectives. You cannot learn about your enemy and their motivations by locking them down... they just spring up as terrorists later and then you have a bigger problem on your hands than just "people spouting lies or hate".
Can we just keep the liars and haters? I would rather have them instead of murderous terrorists willing to kill people over their bullshit politics.
The moment you think it is okay to oppress anyone bec
Re:News is political, biased, and extremist... (Score:4, Insightful)
Bullshit. There is a clear difference between a news outlet, biased or not, and something pretending to be a news outlet.
OANN is a good example of the later.
Re:News is political, biased, and extremist... (Score:5, Insightful)
the differences are only based on your biases, just like everyone else.
No. The difference is running news vs running propaganda. [twimg.com] And the fact that you're seemingly unable to tell the difference is the problem at hand here.
There is a reason each of those outlets gain and audience.
Oh, there very much is, just not the one you think. There's a reason Fox News is registered as an entertainment network instead of a news outlet.
Re:News is political, biased, and extremist... (Score:4, Insightful)
Propaganda? Do you mean terms like "mostly peaceful protests" cause $500M in damage, and burning down churches.
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The trick is to make you think it's not propaganda. Get a clue.
What motivates them to expended energy to report on news? Hint, it's not for altruistic reasons. Sure there are a few folks that are but it does not pay any bills. You just be come famously poor when you work altruistically.
The poor person that gave their last penny, that is the humanitarian.
The poor person that gives away information for free and without personal gain... that is the person no peddling propaganda.
Everyone else with a purse a
Re:News is political, biased, and extremist... (Score:4, Insightful)
There's a reason Fox News is registered as an entertainment network instead of a news outlet.
Not a fan of Fox, but there's no such "registration" with any government body in the US.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-news-entertainment-switch/
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Remember, one side gets to lie while one side is not even allowed to tell the truth.
That is just how it goes, the oppressed becomes the oppressors, because they never wanted equality, they just wanted to be on top all along!
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...and you are liar. No news is "indoctrination", that is literally the difference. One could assume you simply don't understand but that's not true, it's just that you are a liar.
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Tell us which news outlets pushed Russian Collusion and even got awards for reporting on Russian Collusion.
Did any of them ever publish retractions or give back their awards?
Re:News is political, biased, and extremist... (Score:4, Insightful)
All of the objective ones. Also, every federal intelligence agency and the special investigation. No, there were no retractions because the facts were established.
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All of the objective ones. Also, every federal intelligence agency and the special investigation. No, there were no retractions because the facts were established.
Which facts? You mean the ones were people in public were saying they had evidence of collusion, but in their private testimony were saying the opposite?
https://nypost.com/2020/05/11/... [nypost.com]
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"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30000 emails that are missing."
Nope, no collusion at all.
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"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30000 emails that are missing."
Nope, no collusion at all.
That was clearly a joke, told before thousands of people. You can tell a joke, right?
Re: News is political, biased, and extremist... (Score:2)
"How can you tell the difference between a leftist and a normal person?"
"THAT'S NOT FUNNY!!!"
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This guy named Robert Mueller demonstrated it ably. Of course, being a creature of the law, who didn't indict one of the colluders, but referred to him as the Unindicted Co-conspirator. I don't think it takes Sherlock Holmes-level deductive powers to figure out who that term is a placeholder for.
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Funny the Democrats didn't impeach him for it.
Seriously, you Piece of Shit mother fuckers just beat off to imaginary facts.
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Retraction for what? Trump clearly colluded with the Russians, and it says so in the Mueller Report.
It doesn't say that at all. What is says is there is no evidence, but they could not conclude that it didn't happen.
So that is the new standard - guilty without evidence. By that standard, I heard DogDude is a pedophile. Now, I am not aware of any evidence that DogDude is a pedophile, but that doesn't prove he isn't one. And given millions of dollars and two dozen prosecutors looking into every aspect of DogDude's life and the life of his family, friends, and business associates I'm sure we could dig u
Re: News is political, biased, and extremist... (Score:2)
DogDude is a total pedo! I read it from unnamed sources on a social media site he frequents. There were multiple people openly discussing DogDude's pedo lifestyle!
Why hasn't he been charged, yet?! DogDude is a pedo!
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No, they didn't publish retractions because it's pretty goddamned clear it happened.
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What clearly happened in that Hillary got her lawyer John Podesta to pay a foreign national to dig up some dirt on candidate Trump. That foreign national paid a Russian misinformation officer for some wild-ass tales, and too that to the FBI. The FBI found it completely ridiculous, so some players secretly released to the news media, then came back to the FBI. This time the FBI said that it must be credible since they were hearing the same info in multiple places.
If you'd pay attention to you'd know that.
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Two years of having requested evidence deliberately withheld does not constitute an absence of evidence. It constitutes obstruction of justice. It matters not whether he is guilty of the original crime at this point.
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Tell us which news outlets pushed Russian Collusion and even got awards for reporting on Russian Collusion.
Did any of them ever publish retractions or give back their awards?
What would they retract? They reported that President Trump was being investigated for collusion. That's a fact. It doesn't stop being a fact just because no charges were filed at the end of the investigation.
Heck, the investigation didn't even exonerate him. It just concluded that it was impossible to have a proper finding of facts because of the administration's obstruction of proper discovery. Had it been a criminal case instead of a congressional investigation, President Trump would have gone to ja
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Never heard of OANN before Mike Gundy got caught in a photo spilling fish guts on one of their shirts.
and FYI, there are NONE, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA "News Outlets" in the USA at this point, so get off your high horse.
They are all Biased propaganda mouth pieces, 90% of which are controlled by the extreme Left.
"Twitter is not on the masthead of The NY Times" (Score:5, Informative)
Bari Weiss, a staff writer and editor for the New York Times’ increasingly heated Opinion section, is leaving her job, she announced in a letter to the publisher.
“Twitter is not on the masthead of The New York Times. But Twitter has become its ultimate editor,” Weiss said in a note addressed to A.G. Sulzberger that was posted on her personal site Tuesday. “Stories are chosen and told in a way to satisfy the narrowest of audiences, rather than to allow a curious public to read about the world and then draw their own conclusions. I was always taught that journalists were charged with writing the first rough draft of history. Now, history itself is one more ephemeral thing molded to fit the needs of a predetermined narrative.”
She described an “illiberal environment” at the newspaper, and alleged her work “made me the subject of constant bullying by colleagues who disagree with my views.”
https://nypost.com/2020/07/14/... [nypost.com]
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I really don't know why it is so hard to understand that people not willing to listen to your bullshit doesn't mean you're censored/discriminated.
She complained that the news is chosen to fit a narrative tailored to a small audience. And she is 100% correct.
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There's some serious "i'm the voice of the people, how dare you tell me i'm wrong" Karen energy right there.
That's your interpretation, but not what she wrote
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"My own forays into Wrongthink have made me the subject of constant bullying by colleagues who disagree with my views."
"There are terms for all of this: unlawful discrimination, hostile work environment, and constructive discharge. I’m no legal expert. But I know that this is wrong."
"The paper of record is, more and more, the record of those living in a distant galaxy, one whose concerns are profoundly removed from the lives of most people."
"Even now, I am confident that most people at The Times do not hold these views."
"Why? Perhaps because they believe the ultimate goal is righteous."
Words have like, meaning, you know.
They sure do, like the ones I started with:
“Twitter is not on the masthead of The New York Times. But Twitter has become its ultimate editor,” Weiss said in a note addressed to A.G. Sulzberger that was posted on her personal site Tuesday. “Stories are chosen and told in a way to satisfy the narrowest of audiences, rather than to allow a curious public to read about the world and then draw their own conclusions.
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Telling the world what happened after you get bullied, threatened and hounded out of a job is now being a "Karen". You need to shove your misogyny up your ass, jerk.
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Telling the world what happened after you get bullied, threatened and hounded out of a job is now being a "Karen". You need to shove your misogyny up your ass, jerk.
That "Karen" label is being completely misused now.
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"Karen" is the new "you're racist!" Except it is targeting specifically at white women not all women. "How dare those white bitches mouth off and tell us we're a bunch of stupid fucks when we really are a bunch of stupid fucks?"
It's a good way to keep PoC women on the left while cutting out the white women for being white.
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If you read the resignation letter you would see its about not being able to speak freely. She is not demanding people listen or agree with her.
Bari Weiss’s scorching resignation letter:
"My own forays into Wrongthink have made me the subject of constant bullying by colleagues who disagree with my views. They have called me a Nazi and a racist; I have learned to brush off comments about how I’m “writing about the Jews again.” Several colleagues perceived to be friendly with me were ba
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You apparently didn't read her entire letter. Try again.
Getting abused at work, online, on the office, in public by your "co workers" for doing what you were hired to do with zero support from management who hired you for those reasons you're being abused is not whining.
It's a hostile work environment and she likely has a very good case the NYT would do well to settle out of court as quickly as possible.
If ANY of that shit happened at my company it would be shut down so fast heads would spin. Repeats afte
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Not in the USA!
Sarcasm aside, anyone using the words or derived words "liberal" or "leftist" referring to others can immediately be disregarded. I stopped using the word "conservative" since I realized that the word isn't being used by it's definition and most people can identify with it, when correctly defined.
Most of us are conserv
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It's News for Nerds. Stuff that matters.
Pretty sure the partisan nature of the news qualifies as "Stuff that matters"
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We're not seeing interesting news as viewed thro
Re: Slashdot? (Score:2)
I think one of them is just an alias for the late night posting robot off the queue. I doubt this place makes enough money to hire 3 editors.
Simple solution (Score:2)
Shame those that cite them as source of information. Should take care of that in no time.
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You do know that we have lawmakers openly quoting QAnon these days, right?
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So? We also have them quoting Don Lemon. What's your point?
Whose fault is that? (Score:5, Insightful)
Honestly, if these 'hyper partisan' faux-news sites are not immediately distinguishable from actual news sites, whose fault is that?
June 2016 I listened GOBSMACKED to NPR radio (I remember *precisely* where I was, in fact) as the editor for the NYT explained with not small pride that the NYT needed to set aside traditional journalistic objectivity to oppose Donald Trump's rising candidacy for president.
The NYT has always been 'establishmentarian' liberal; I think all journalism is intrinsically a little bit liberal - that's ok.
But to announce that participating in The Resistance was more important than a century-long tradition of journalism was....startling. And they wonder why "journalists" have become targets for political attack? THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN THE GAME.
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The New York Times was competing with an increasing number of "entertainment networks" masquerading as news outlets which have been pushing a far-right agenda. I don't agree with their decision (if anything, the more the mainstream media did to oppose Trump, the more people managed to think that he, a rich man, was as an outsider that would favor the working class) but I can certainly understand the temptation they faced. Now they, and all of the other left-leaning news outlets that went with them, are left with the same level of integrity as the far-right "news" outlets. And we the people are left with very few places to get accurate news that isn't tainted by political agendas pushed by the influential owners of these "news" outlets.
The New York Times is not in competition with any right wing news source. If the right were their target audience their coverage wouldn't be so far left.
That "entertainment networks" tag applies to left wing networks too. For example, in Rachel Maddow's recent slander court case she won the case with testimony that the Rachel Maddow show is entertainment and opinion, not news.
Whatever their temptation they sacrificed their integrity in favor of ideology.
I have no idea where to get objective news any more.
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Both sides already have their loyal viewers/readers on their side of the spectrum - the competition is for the people in the middle. Instead of presenting rational and unbiased news, they're presenting emotionally-charged content (fear on the right and social justice on the left) in an attempt to win over anyone left in the middle as well as to keep the attention of the rabid viewers on their extreme side of the spectrum.
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First, I'll need a link to the NPR story where that happened. It doesn't sound credible.
Second, "traditional journalistic objectivity" is a lack of judgement that leads to "Republicans and Democrats disagree on if the earth is round."
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Hm, yeah, I'm going to spend my time combing through NPRs archive for some afternoon in June for a person who ALREADY insists that "Democrats RIGHT! Republicans BAD" is simply fact and not a problem at all.
Why, pray tell, would I bother? I know what I heard. IDGAF whether you, in particular, believe me or not. If I found it, it's not going to change your vote, or your beliefs an iota. I rather expect we'd be treated - if you bothered to return - to an explanation of how it wold be entirely justified by
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It's amazing you read what I wrote as "Democrats RIGHT! Republicans BAD" at all, let alone a fact. I said traditional journalistic integrity sucks. But that fail of reading comprehension just calls more doubt into your recollection of a 4 year old radio broadcast. Keep up your persecution complex!
Maybe get more secure in your political beliefs.
Re: Whose fault is that? (Score:2)
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/0... [nytimes.com]
Is a NYT link good enough for you?
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That's not what that link says.
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Did you see the resignation letter of Bari Weiss?
https://www.bariweiss.com/resi... [bariweiss.com]
Fake news sites are the least of our problems....
Anyone else remember the Fairness Doctrine? (Score:4, Insightful)
Anyone else remember the Fairness Doctrine? I remember when Reagan proposed doing away with it -- and then Clinton actually did it.
It is exactly this kind of shit that the Fairness Doctrine was designed to prevent. Currently, something like 90% of all mass media in the USA is owned or controlled by 6 corporations, and the individuals at the top of those corporations.
Maybe government regulations don't seem so bad now? Because in my 55 years on this planet, I've yet to see a Free Market actually regulate itself. Which leads me to ask if the individual players are capable of regulating themselves.
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Yeah, people forget that Clinton in particular really fucked the news up for us. He did away with the restrictions on how many media outlets a single corporation could own, and the rest is bullshit.
Bubba was a centrist through and through. It's a sign of how tilted the playing field is that he was described as liberal by so many.
Re: Anyone else remember the Fairness Doctrine? (Score:2)
Creep is not the correct word although also true. The word is "rapist".
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Absolutely (Score:1)
Hyperpartisan? (Score:2)
Well, why shouldn't the local news be just as partisan as the rest of the media?
propaganda (Score:2)
You're speaking of the Fox News Network...? ;) (Score:2)
The only news I trust, come from personal observation by people I trust. And know personally. Meaning I know their goals and character, and can hence judge how reliable something probably is.
In consider everything else (including Slashdot and its opposites) to be useless, as it's manipulation with hidden goals. So with unknown reliability.
I'm much happier since I started to.focus on my real world. As it's there, where I can actually control and change things.
I can only recommend it.
(Slashdot is just like a
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You're not going to be able to get a wide enough experience that way. How will you know what's happening on other continents. Or if your experiences are common or rare? How do you turn anecdote into data?
Stop consuming media (Score:1)
Thats right, if your reading this, you should stop visiting any news site, you are consuming too much media.
All news these days is hyperpartisan (Score:1)
Don't believe me or the news. Just watch a press briefing by Trump with an unbiased mind(yes its hard to do, but be honest with yourself). 1st you will see the reporters start the question with a lie or try and twist words to support a narrative. Most don't listen and ask the same quest
Can I call horseshit on this yet? (Score:2)
Yeah, local news is biased. It's liberal.
Deal, it's why Trump gets so much mileage over his "fake media"
He's not wrong, he's just the wrong messanger
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And Fox News. Or are they not hyper partisan enough for you?
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And Fox News. Or are they not hyper partisan enough for you?
Sure, add them to the list.
Re:Like the NY Times and Washington Post, for exam (Score:5, Insightful)
No they're not. They're partisan but not hyper partisan. If you read the front page you can see the bias in either of these. But if you fact check the front page you see they're not outright lying like the far right and left news media.
How are you distinguishing between "Partisan" and "Hyper Partisan"? "Not outright lying" sounds a lot like "fake but true".
I used to read the NY Times daily but that was a long time ago. They are now about click-bait tailored to a narrow audience.
Don't believe me, believe Bari Weiss:
https://www.bariweiss.com/resi... [bariweiss.com]
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The difference is NYTimes and Washington Post are reputable sources that employ journalists to do journalism. There are clearly opinion pieces and of course reporters have opinions, The sites in question aren't real organizations, they don't have reporters, they don't have reputable histories, they just regurgitate stories from other sources with a far right/left (usually right) wing slant. I see Mr Weiss is concerned the NYTimes had rules and standards, but that's a pretty weak complaint compared to the g
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I stopped at your first sentence. The only thing true there is, "the NYT employs people". The rest is crap.
Which is why they're firing people and others are resigning for trying to do real journalism and have something that might sometimes pass for something not printed by Pravda.
Re:Like the NY Times and Washington Post, for exam (Score:4, Informative)
A paper that won a Pulitzer for the nonsense that is the 1619 Project is hyperpartisan. End of story.
It defies logic that they would even print that. The US was founded to protect slavery? A practice that was condoned by most of the western countries of the time, and specifically by the country the US revolted against? Only a hyperpartisan could drink that koolaid.