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Parler CEO John Matze Says Company's Board Fired Him (axios.com) 268

John Matze, CEO and co-founder of far-right friendly social media platform Parler, said on LinkedIn Wednesday that he has been terminated. Axios reports: Parler has been at the center of controversy since Amazon Web Services, Apple and Google unplugged the network last month for its lack of content moderation related to the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. In a memo obtained by Fox News, Matze said that the company's board of directors, controlled by Republican political donor Rebekah Mercer, terminated him last Friday. He did not participate in the decision, and the reason for the firing remains unknown.

"Over the past few months, I've met constant resistance to my product vision, my strong belief in free speech and my view of how the Parler site should be managed," Matze wrote. "For example, I advocated for more product stability and what I believe is a more effective approach to content moderation." "I have worked endless hours and fought constant battles to get the Parler site running but at this point, the future of Parler is no longer in my hands." Matze will take a few weeks off before looking for new opportunities, he told Parler colleagues.

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Parler CEO John Matze Says Company's Board Fired Him

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  • by Whateverthisis ( 7004192 ) on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @08:01PM (#61025464)
    First of all, the CEO has one job, and one job only: they are expected by the owners to make the company a success and grow shareholder value, and they are the ones responsible for everything. People wonder why CEOs get paid a lot; what is never appreciated is that disparity between responsibility and executional ability; engineers and programmers can build the product but don't actually have the responsibility for it being a success; that is the job of a CEO.

    In this case, he "implemented a system of content moderation that he believed was more effective." Clearly it was not. The results are many, but speaking just to the context of Parler itself, the result was they lost access to their core infrastructure platforms and their name and brand is utter garbage across the country. Many people had never heard of Parler before this, but now they have and that's not the best impression to make. This directly affects the prospects of the owners to find a financial return on their investment.

    For the shareholders to have an exit that is even within the range of what they made, they need to signal a new direction that changes the brand entirely. That means, new leadership at the top.

    • by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @08:21PM (#61025530)

      You can replace most CEOs with a magic 8 ball and get similar results. They get massive retirement packages even if they do fuck up. So fail all you want to and still get millions of dollars on the way out. Has there ever been an out of work CEO that no one would hire?

      • Comment removed based on user account deletion
    • by BlackBilly ( 7624958 ) on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @08:36PM (#61025582)
      I agree with most of what you wrote wanted to point out one thing:

      their name and brand is utter garbage across the country

      Choose any topic and some people loathe it while at the same time others love it. A lot of people love Parler and feel it is a champion of all the good things in the world. This is why free speech is important, because what you think is not necessarily what others think, and everyone deserves a voice.

      • by Ichijo ( 607641 ) on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @09:58PM (#61025806) Journal

        free speech is important... and everyone deserves a voice.

        Well which do you want, free speech, or ensuring that everyone has a voice? Unregulated speech leads to oppression [wikipedia.org], just as unregulated markets lead to monopolies.

        • Well which do you want, free speech, or ensuring that everyone has a voice?

          Your plan to ensure that everyone has a voice is suppress free speech? That seems logical to you?

          • by Ambassador Kosh ( 18352 ) on Thursday February 04, 2021 @02:58AM (#61026326)

            This has long been observed on forums. If you allow the most toxic members to take over soon everyone else leaves. Banning the most toxic members increases overall participation.

        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by BlackBilly ( 7624958 )

          Well which do you want, free speech, or ensuring that everyone has a voice? Unregulated speech leads to oppression [wikipedia.org],

          You seem to have made a rather large claim there with no supporting evidence. The wiki link you sent discusses a philosophical argument, it is neither evidence nor a proof.

          just as unregulated markets lead to monopolies.

          A = B therefore C = D. Cool.

      • by Ryzilynt ( 3492885 ) on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @10:22PM (#61025852)

        I agree with most of what you wrote wanted to point out one thing:

        their name and brand is utter garbage across the country

        Choose any topic and some people loathe it while at the same time others love it. A lot of people love Parler and feel it is a champion of all the good things in the world. This is why free speech is important, because what you think is not necessarily what others think, and everyone deserves a voice.

        If what you think is "lets ignore facts and kill people" then the rest of us are going to make you shut up.

        • It's the reason there are still people here

        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by BlackBilly ( 7624958 )

          If what you think is "lets ignore facts and kill people"

          I don't think that.

          then the rest of us are going to make you shut up.

          Who is 'us' in this story? Maybe someone will shut 'you' up?
          This is the problem with censorship, people only like it when they're the ones who get to decide.

          • If what you think is "lets ignore facts and kill people"

            I don't think that.

            then the rest of us are going to make you shut up.

            Who is 'us' in this story? Maybe someone will shut 'you' up?

            This is the problem with censorship, people only like it when they're the ones who get to decide.

            "IF"--> what you think is "lets ignore facts and kill people"

            Quote me correctly , you didn't even include an ellipsis

          • by dryeo ( 100693 ) on Thursday February 04, 2021 @12:21AM (#61026106)

            You know, if you go to the town square and start screaming about something unpopular, you will be shunned. You can test it by picking an unpopular subject, lets say pedophilia, and testing it.
            You could also do like Top Gear did and drive around the South with pro-gay stuff written all over your vehicle. They stopped due to threats and actions

        • If that were true Twitter would have been kicked off the app stores for the still ongoing riots that were planned there and have now killed upwards of 30 people since last summer. Twitter finally closed four antifa accounts a week ago that they had known about for months. Sorry, thereâ(TM)s a big double standard here.

      • Your point is kind of off-topic. I personally had never heard of Parler, now I think of them as the "free-speech" message system for radicals and anarchists. A lot of the country learned about Parler in the context of what happened at the Capitol. From the owner's perspective, that can directly erode the value of their investment.

        Did crazy people jump on with a bunch of garbage and coordinate a crazed mob to attack the Capitol? Yes. Did the CEO instigate that through his direct actions? No. Did P

        • Your point is kind of off-topic.

          I did clearly point out the reason for my post, specifically your one line about brand perception which I disagree with.

          They should have seen it and recognized the risk to the corporation. They didn't. Therefore, he's gone.

          Which I agree with. What I disagree with is that just because you or (insert group of people here) think it's trash, doesn't mean that view is universally or widely held. My wife for example (my litmus test) has no idea what Parler is, so I think the most common view of Parler in the general population is "What's that?". For context, this [arabist.net]

      • what you think is not necessarily what others think, and everyone deserves a voice.

        unless you're trying to use that voice on Parler, and try to speak about things to the left of Steve King.

      • A lot of people love Parler and feel it is a champion of all the good things in the world

        Sure. "Good" things like white hoods, burning torches and nooses.

        Parler is a cesspool of intolerance, grievance culture and conspiracy theories, nothing more. The asshole of the internet.

    • by RazorSharp ( 1418697 ) on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @09:08PM (#61025680)

      First of all, the CEO has one job, and one job only: they are expected by the owners to make the company a success and grow shareholder value

      I firmly believe that most problems we have with corporate America are rooted in this belief. Yeah, that's pretty much how most people view the position of CEO—but should we?

      Look how ridiculous "shareholder value" is. The whole Gamestop brouhaha of the past week is an example of how this type of value can fluctuate at the arbitrary whims of traders. Toyota is the biggest car company, but Tesla is valued the most.

      Personally, I think a good CEO is one who ensures that employees are well taken care off. One who is concerned with his customers and community. I might be more inclined to agree with your job description of CEOs if you had used the word stakeholder, but why do shareholders deserve to be prioritized above employee? Most shareholders did not purchase their stock from the corporation. They bought them off the open market. So they really haven't "invested" in the company at all. They're just playing a casino game where they're actually likely to win.

      • First of all, the CEO has one job, and one job only: they are expected by the owners to make the company a success and grow shareholder value

        I firmly believe that most problems we have with corporate America are rooted in this belief. Yeah, that's pretty much how most people view the position of CEO—but should we?

        Look how ridiculous "shareholder value" is. The whole Gamestop brouhaha of the past week is an example of how this type of value can fluctuate at the arbitrary whims of traders. Toyota is the biggest car company, but Tesla is valued the most.

        Personally, I think a good CEO is one who ensures that employees are well taken care off. One who is concerned with his customers and community. I might be more inclined to agree with your job description of CEOs if you had used the word stakeholder, but why do shareholders deserve to be prioritized above employee? Most shareholders did not purchase their stock from the corporation. They bought them off the open market. So they really haven't "invested" in the company at all. They're just playing a casino game where they're actually likely to win.

        Take care of the little people and your profits can grow well beyond the short sighted foolishness that is the profit-at-any-cost model.

      • Personally, I think a good CEO is one who ensures that employees are well taken care off.

        I recommend Costco as an example of a company that does this well.

        I also recommend IBM's traditional priority list as pattern for how to do it: "customers first, employees second, shareholders third."

    • Given it's the Mercers, this guy was no doubt terminated for not being evil enough.

    • Parler is funded by the same groups as Cambridge Analytica. They were not upset he did not make money, they were upset he was not able to successfully enoughbuild a fool manipulator.
    • grow shareholder value

      Yes, I can see you have read your textbooks, but has it occurred to you that Rebekah Mercer maybe has goals with funding Parler that aren't merely making money directly from it?

  • by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @08:03PM (#61025474)

    You got fired eh John? Ain't that a shame. Had you been far left, you might have a union to talk to, to help you fight unfair termination and get your job back. But hey, it's a free country: unchecked capitalism, employment at will baby. Don't worry, the market will sort you out in no time bubba.

    • by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @08:21PM (#61025526)

      Don't worry, the market will sort you out in no time ...

      Pretty sure it already/just did.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      You're a real rocket surgeon aren't you. The CEO wouldn't be a member of the union.

      • Not really a good reason why they couldn't be. Sure they may be on the other side of the table in some negotiations, but that's true of even low-level managers (who may also be union members). The CEO is an employee of the board/shareholders and so should be able to access a union and act in solidarity with other employees sharing an interest too.

        Of course, in this case Matze is likely philosophically opposed to being in a union, but that doesn't invalidate the idea overall.

    • You got fired eh John? Ain't that a shame. Had you been far left, you might have a union to talk to, to help you fight unfair termination and get your job back. But hey, it's a free country: unchecked capitalism, employment at will baby. Don't worry, the market will sort you out in no time bubba.

      Pretty sure unions aren't "far left"

      Never forget what Americans call "far left" the rest of the world calls center left.

    • You'd just tell him to build his own union. No one would join.

      Then if enough join, you'd steal the IP addresses behind his unions site.

      Because you support free speech so much.

  • Parler is offline (Score:5, Informative)

    by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @08:11PM (#61025496)
    A pertinent fact not in the summary is that Parler is still as of this moment offline. They are presumably not making any money. They got kicked off AWS on Jan 10, so it has been several weeks. Becoming the new home of Trumpism when he got kicked off Twitter was their big opportunity, and it probably won't knock twice, so I would imagine the owners (whoever they are - undisclosed) are quite disappointed.
    • by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @08:25PM (#61025546)

      Maybe they haven't read Art Of The Deal?

      • Maybe they haven't read Art Of The Deal?

        Pretty sure Trump hasn't read it either (it was ghost written by Tony Schwartz) ...
        Donald is still waiting for the pop-up version to come out. :-)

    • by fermion ( 181285 )
      We know that without a tracking and ad backbone it is hard to monetize users. That still doesnâ(TM)t explain why they donâ(TM)t just set up some servers and have a hard IP.
      • That still doesn't explain why they don't just set up some servers and have a hard IP.

        Maybe they don't have any motherfuckin' money?

        Matze said in an interview on June 29, 2020 that the business was not profitable. As of January 2021 Parler had not received any known venture capital.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

        • by tragedy ( 27079 )

          Maybe they don't have any motherfuckin' money?

          Which I find odd. In their circles, and in their situation, wouldn't you expect them to pass around the hat and ask their supporters for money? It works from Trump.

          • With mainstream becoming ever more censorous, there is a very nice niece for a site for right wing rat bags. Probably much bigger than than the market for aged geeks on Slashdot.

            Parlor hit gold when AWS kicked them off because they got the lime light. However, they apparently were stupid enough to base their software on AWS tools.

            They need to get up quickly, Just a basic bulletin board will do for starters. They probably need to register several Parler domains, including parler.ru. And they will probab

        • Maybe they should ask Trump or the my pillow guy for some funds.

      • Have you seen their product? Their dev team isn't exactly groundbreaking.

        It's pretty clear they slapped together something using AWS-only platforms. It's going to take a while to refactor that, or figure out how to set up the non-Amazon almost-alikes.

        • Just use one of the many free forum software packages that are available on every LAMP hoster. Good enough to start with.

    • in case you were wondering, they're the ones who put up most (all?) of the cash to get Parler up and running and keep them there.
    • Parler isn't in it to make money. Parler is there as an instrument of the far right to rouse the trailer trash to do violence against decent society.

  • Free speech? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Twinbee ( 767046 )
    I still recall them kicking off leftists, so his "free speech" philosophy is already under heavy doubt for me. If you dish it out, you gotta learn to take punches too.

    They also apparently collect phone numbers, so that put me off too. I hope the next CEO has better principles.
    • I had an account for a week or two before they went offline to check it out. They kicked off spammers. During my short time there I didn't see a single left leaning political post that wasn't an obvious mindless troll or copy paste spam from Twitter.

      Who are all these well spoken left learners who got booted? Got some screenshots of what they got booted for?

      Free speech doesn't protect copy paste spam memes and other content free noise.

      • by Twinbee ( 767046 )
        Thanks for giving your perspective, though I think even trolls and copy-paste leftist memes should be allowed. Perhaps a leftist can chime in now who can verify they were booted off Parlor unfairly.
        • Thanks for giving your perspective, though I think even trolls and copy-paste leftist memes should be allowed. Perhaps a leftist can chime in now who can verify they were booted off Parlor unfairly.

          Naw, never booted, never posted. I laid low, just there for opposition research.

      • Who are all these well spoken left learners who got booted? Got some screenshots of what they got booted for?

        Sure [techdirt.com]. Though you need to use archives to speculate what exactly triggered Parler, because Parler didn't give justifications for bans.

        security code: 1eed40e2e8767433ac49b02127526716c88966039933452a22dc9812f78cefec

    • I can't recall there being any of that but I might have just missed it.

      Do you have anything supporting that this was done?

  • by killdashnine ( 651759 ) on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @08:57PM (#61025640) Homepage
    Politics aside, the board made the correct decision. Enterprise Security is top-of-mind for most, if not all SaaS businesses. It was either a design choice to skip it to allow them to build quickly and expand the platform, or the CEO did not care. Either way, Parler's actions exposed millions of people's PII - which alone has pretty dire consequences. Above all, it's a brand killer.
  • this sounds more like the established players labeling a neutral party who refused to comply with their demands so that emotional people leave their thinking at the door.

  • by Alypius ( 3606369 ) on Thursday February 04, 2021 @01:14AM (#61026174)
    I like coming here to read the comments from all the CEOs who wish to opine about another CEO.
  • If you employ people or kids by the tens or millions in slave labour thats fine making shoes or whatever so some CEO can pay themselves millions thats fine...,
  • by ledow ( 319597 ) on Thursday February 04, 2021 @03:27AM (#61026342) Homepage

    Not surprising. The age-old argument of free speech finally affected them. You can say what you like, but nobody has to give you a platform from which to say it.

    They didn't have their own platform. Their platform provider warned them and then threw them off. They even tried to put in censorship themselves because they knew that to not do so would be worse for them. And then nobody would touch them to provide a platform. They couldn't even build their own without risking being disconnected by their provider, I imagine.

    Ironically, if they were smaller they could probably have bounced around providers quite happily for a few years, but their own popularity killed them - with providers pre-emptively telling them that they wouldn't allow them to use their services.

    Did they not get their Russian hosting up and running? That country which is the last bastion of free speech?!

    The fact that they were running on AWS and thought they could just do what they liked on there, in the face of presidential levels of publicity, was always ridiculous. And they didn't even have a backup plan or anything elsewhere.

    I'm not sad to see them go - most especially because all the racists fled Twitter because of censorship while making massive fusses about how they wouldn't ever be back, ended up on Parler, and are now basically de-platformed.

    Eventually some replacement will pop up, probably some decentralised thing, and they'll do it again but the more niche we keep such idiots, the better. It's just astounding that Parler were just using AWS without even thinking, didn't have a backup plan or redundancy, attracted huge attention, and couldn't get anything running quite enough to capitalise on the publicity.

    The app-store bans were inevitable, too. Not sure why you'd ever rely on an app-store for such an app, people would be willing to install such a thing from a third-party if you just said that Google/Apple would censor you if you tried it. Hell, just a web-interface is all that's strictly necessary anyway.

    As the Piratebay guys pointed out, they were just playing amateur hour, they could have stayed up in some fashion if they'd known what they were doing or planned even a jot.

    But to lose the entire ability to run the service, probably most of your (non-paying) customers, be down for months, have no backup plan, attract worldwide attention and be known as the harbour or racists and terrorists is just about the best way to tank a commercial enterprise.

    • by jlar ( 584848 )

      Not surprising. The age-old argument of free speech finally affected them. You can say what you like, but nobody has to give you a platform from which to say it.

      Sure, nobody has to sell their services to companies that they don't agree with politically or for other reasons. Parler lost, no question about that - and they should have had a backup plan. But Twitter, Facebook, Google, Apple and Amazon will in my estimation also lose big on this as well although the effects will much more diffuse and slower to emerge:

      1. People around the world have become much more aware of the power and desire of US big tech to control the public narratives.
      2. People around the world d

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