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Twitter's Jack Dorsey Wants To Build an App Store for Social Media Algorithms (theverge.com) 36

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey imagines a future where you get to choose what you see on social media by picking out your favorite recommendation algorithm, rather than relying on a single controlling company to get it exactly right. From a report: On a call with investors this week, Dorsey expanded on his vision of how a decentralized social network might work -- and why Twitter would want to create a network that's beyond the control of itself or any other company. Dorsey said Twitter would benefit by having access to "a much larger corpus of conversation" from which it can surface relevant content to users. "That's where we will be competitive," he said. Dorsey said Twitter is "excited to build" features that will give people more choice over what they see. "You can imagine an app-store-like view of ranking algorithms that give people ultimate flexibility in terms of" what posts are put in front of them, Dorsey said on the call.
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Twitter's Jack Dorsey Wants To Build an App Store for Social Media Algorithms

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  • by SirSpanksALot ( 7630868 ) on Wednesday February 10, 2021 @11:11AM (#61047566)
    Can I pick an algorithm when Jack doesn't get to censor things I want to read?
    • Your can point twitter.com to localhost in your hosts file.

      HTH, and hi there APK!

  • by ObliviousGnat ( 6346278 ) on Wednesday February 10, 2021 @11:13AM (#61047572)

    Brilliant! What could possibly go wrong?

    • Better to be able to choose your echo chamber, or choose not to use an echo chamber algo than to have Jack Dorsey decide what you're allowed to see.
  • by darkain ( 749283 ) on Wednesday February 10, 2021 @11:16AM (#61047592) Homepage

    The first to that market with Chronological Order "algorithm" is going to make fucking BANK!

    • Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey imagines a future where you get to choose what you see on social media by picking out your favorite recommendation algorithm, rather than relying on a single controlling company to get it exactly right.

      We had this "future" 10 years ago; it's called RSS. Though if someone can bring it back after Google practically killed it by discontinuing their reader, I'm all in favor.

  • are the ones with the most ad revenue. This is why, and I shit you not, a bulimic browsing Reddit will get ads for weight loss (look up a video from YouTuber Vikki1999). What matters is engagement. All this would do is add a layer of advertisements to convince you to use X algorithm which you'd likely do because a) you don't know what an algorithm is much less how one works and you'll pick whichever the top one is and b) even if you know unless you've got at least a bachelors in Math good luck understanding
    • This is why, and I shit you not, a bulimic browsing Reddit will get ads for weight loss (look up a video from YouTuber Vikki1999).

      I'm not sure why this is a problem beyond the subjective moral one.

      Seems like bulimics would be more likely than average to buy weight loss crap, so its smart advertising to target them when you can, and its smart business to charge more to present those ads.

      Wealth creation from pure information.

    • Just switch to the EFF ranker. Problem solved. I like the idea of putting more power in the hands of users, but not everyone will like it. Some people actually want to control the rankers of other people, all with noble intentions, of course (SJWs).
  • what Jack Dorsey needs is ten days off with a few supermodels (or his wife ...) and think of NOT trying too hard first ... your CEO's humans, in all their front-facade, they're pretty easy to ruffle - - - can always crowdsource, Jack ... like what blizzard did to world of warcraft .. it fucked the game up but apparently not their revenue - google has been trying to make people pay for several years now, it somehow doesnt seem to work ...
    getting migraine and high blood pressure while cockblocking your head
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  • by oldgraybeard ( 2939809 ) on Wednesday February 10, 2021 @11:39AM (#61047698)
    what I am interested in without a 3rd party mucking up the show with their chosen crap.
    Do people really need to be guided by what Twitter sees as approved, pure, true.
    • by Elendil ( 11919 )

      I agree. My algorithm of choice would be very simple: just show me the posts by whomever I decided to follow. Don't suggest stuff. Don't push anything to my wall/stream/whatever you want to call it unless **I** have chosen to receive content from that source.
      I'm sure the implementation would be technically trivial :-)

  • This is just asking to have recommendation engines with evil targeting AND malware. The only plausible benefit is that segmenting the space might prevent some postings from going viral because in each sub-space they might not have momentum to break through.

    Recommendation engines are a public-health thing. It doesn't do _me_ all that much good to get vaccinated against smallpox, if smallpox is rampant in the population. I mean, it does some good, maybe it reduces my risk of contracting smallpox in a given

  • This sounds like a great idea, and I had had similar ideas regarding this previously. Not that I trust Jack Dorsey to implement it without the ability for them to silence wrongthink, but nothing would make me happier than to be proved wrong. My idea was something like multiple parallel moderation scores. Any comment moderation would not have universal authority, but would be weighted by the moderator's level of trust under different ideological filter schemes, and so ideologically motivated moderators co
    • I had the same thoughts a while back as well. Basically you subscribe to what moderation team/company. Many can overlay on top of each other -- not unlike filter lists for ublock. I was also lookingâ at it from a reddit perspective, not just twitter.

      Mostly I thought of this for a company like Parler, where the device manufacturer (Apple) and ISP (Amazon) both want you silenced. You basically put the responsibility back on them by picking a specific moderation team to force on their customers. Apple use

  • consider.
    maybe a set of algorithms that pick up garbage.
    think tornado

  • How would you like your feed - liberal, or ultra-liberal?

  • I just want to see posts and comments from people I follow/friend in reverse chronological order without any algorithm deciding what I do and do not want to see. Clearly I'm not Facebook's target demographic.
  • by Dr.Dubious DDQ ( 11968 ) on Wednesday February 10, 2021 @05:20PM (#61048702) Homepage
    It seems like the solution is pretty obvious and largely already developed.

    No doubt Twitter will be adding ActivityPub federation and RSS feeds in the next week or two and this project will be complete.

    Right?

    (Hello? Anybody?...)

  • This sounds like something I'd be very interested in, and it would be cool to see a feed made with different algos.
    • I too have set aside my cynicism and think this would be a great thing to do. It could spur lots of social media companies to provide something similar. Even just being able to tweak and algorithm would be nice. Like if I could dial down the "outrage me" parameter from 10 to 4.

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