Parler is Back Online, More Than a Month After Tangle With Amazon Knocked it Offline (washingtonpost.com) 307
Parler is back online following several weeks of darkness after the social media site popular with supporters of former president Donald Trump was knocked offline. From a reportL: Parler effectively fell off the Internet in January when Amazon refused to provide technical cloud computing support to the site after the tech giant determined Parler was not doing enough to moderate and remove incitements to violence. The site was not fully functional on Monday, and some users reported technical glitches as they tried to log in and refresh feeds. Private messaging was disabled, but the basic outline of the site was live. "We're in for a little bit of a bumpy ride for the next day or two, there's been a ton of backend work we've completed over the last couple of weeks," Parler Chief Technology Officer Alexander Blair posted on the site Monday morning. [...] Parler appeared to be using a Los Angeles-based cloud hosting company called SkySilk to return online. Hackers on Twitter, including the user who orchestrated a large-scale scrape of Parler's public data as it fell offline, identified SkySilk as the host. John Jackson, founder of hacking group Sakura Samurai, confirmed the technical footprint points to SkySilk via public records.
Welcome To Our New Honeypot (Score:5, Insightful)
So funny these guys are so gullible.
Re:Welcome To Our New Honeypot (Score:4, Funny)
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Yas queen
Re:Welcome To Our New Honeypot (Score:5, Funny)
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'Every social media site is a honeypot for US intelligence.'
That is the whole point of the comment. Did it go over your head? I think it did. See, the key word was 'new' not 'honeypot'.
I'm sure you'll get it next time!
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They targeted Parler specifically because it was promoting violence
FTFY.
Given how many (all) of the people who invaded the Capitol were self-described "conservatives", it would make sense...
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Funny, the last guy tried to have the current guy investigated for Ukrainian collusion at this point.
(And was impeached for it.)
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Yes, I'm sure all those starving Georgia voters are running around happily spending their $2000 chec....ooh, too soon?
Um, the bill just left The House Ways and Means Committee with clear markup. It's already high 10s on the calendar and floor measure is already on clerk with memo and times. Considering the House holds the majority bringing the bill is there something we all should be aware of that's a hold up for the bill making it's way into the Senate? And even then, it's under reconciliation so there's no cloture on the bill. So is there something that's going to be holding it up in the Senate? I mean, I'm not sure
Re: The True Way Forward: Ending All Racism (Score:2)
That's cool (Score:2)
Glad they found a way to be online, I'm never going to use them and don't recommend them to anyone.
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Re:That's cool (Score:5, Insightful)
The 40% of the electorate that believes he was correct to incite an insurrection to take back the stolen election is too great for Parler to ignore.
More precisely, it's 39% of the Republican electorate, 31% of Independents and 17% of Democrats support Americans taking violent actions, according to a new survey [americansurveycenter.org] by the conservative American Enterprise Institute [aei.org]:
The use of violence finds somewhat more support among Republicans than Democrats, although most Republicans oppose it. Roughly four in 10 (39 percent) Republicans support Americans taking violent actions if elected leaders fail to act. Sixty percent of Republicans oppose this idea. Thirty-one percent of independents and 17 percent of Democrats also support taking violent actions if elected leaders do not defend the country.
However, although a significant number of Americans—and Republicans in particular—express support for the idea that violent actions may be necessary, there is a notable lack of enthusiastic support for it. For instance, only 9 percent of Americans overall and only 13 percent of Republicans say they “completely” agree in the necessity of taking violent actions if political leaders fail.
Regardless, all those number are way too high if you ask me...
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Re: That's cool (Score:4, Informative)
The summer of fire was certainly not caused by Republicans. Hell they even managed to destroy their sanctuary city. Portland is the new Detroit.
You should really, really, really be careful wit that statement Cylix. Many of the arrests for the fires, for example the Police Station (and other buildings) in Minneapolis, were actually started by Boogaloos trying to incite the race war. That's before the (purported) three percenters arrested for plotting other fires, and potentially being charged with lighting fires. That's not including the boogaloos that were making Molotov cocktails in Vegas. While we're at it, it's not like Republicans are afraid of shooting cops either, with the boogaloo in Cali texting the boogaloo in Minneapolis who burned down the police precint. That boogaloo in Cali executed a federal officer, again to start a race war.
Let's not forget Republicans plotting to kidnap and murder Michigan Governor Whitmer. I mean, we keep hearing how the evil ANTIFA is so violent. The violence we have seen the most of has been caused by Republicans. The most horrible violence, e.g. murder, planning murder, or mass murders, has been from Republicans.
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Re:That's cool (Score:4, Insightful)
My guess is that Parler will end up with an even smaller user base than Fox News.
Ya, but most of Fox's base are one heartbeat away from no heartbeat; I'm betting most Parler users are much younger.
Re: That's cool (Score:4, Informative)
Not sure what you guys are talking about. Fox is the highest rated news network in the US by far especially among younger viewers. You guys live in an echo chamber. CNN is not reality.
Fox is currently third. From Fox News Viewership Plummets: First Time Behind CNN And MSNBC In Two Decades [forbes.com]:
While Fox News has dominated cable news for the better part of 20 years, it has also been the most-watched basic cable network for the past five years, with its highest ratings ever in 2020.
Yet Fox's ratings have dipped since Election Day, with average viewership reportedly down approximately 20% compared to pre-November levels.
Over the first full week of 2021 (Jan. 4 through Jan. 10), CNN ranked first among cable networks (roughly 2.8 million viewers per day; 4.2 million in primetime) followed by MSNBC (2.3 million per day ;3.8 million in primetime) and Fox News in third (1.7 million per day; 3.2 million in primetime).
Over the first two weeks of 2021, Fox averaged nearly 800,000 fewer total day viewers than MSNBC, and around 1 million fewer than CNN, according to Mediate, and every day since Jan. 4, Fox has trailed both MSNBC and CNN in the crucial age 25-54 demographic.
Jan. 6, the day the U.S Capitol was ransacked, was CNN's most-watched day in the network's history, and in primetime that evening, CNN averaged 8.2 million viewers, nearly double the viewership of Fox News (4.6 million).
Fox News is not immune from echo chamber criticisms, especially with regard to Trump, people in his orbit and his supporters ...
Re: That's cool (Score:5, Insightful)
Actually that should read "Fox News is not immune from threats to shut them down" Their kow-towing is what is costing them their ratings.
Kow-towing to what, the truth? The thing that hurt FN the most was when Tucker Carlson explained on air that his team couldn't get any of the evidence that Sidney Powell was claiming she had. Zip, zero, zilch. He had a moment of "weakness" where he was simply tired of pushing her obvious lies. However, he figured out pretty quick what his job actually was, and was back to shoveling that manure the next day [usatoday.com]. The damage had already been done.
Sorry, but, if you lay down with the dogs, you get up with the fleas.
Re: That's cool (Score:5, Interesting)
Kow-towing to exactly what I said... the threat to shut them down.
They're not "Kowtowing." They're a business that is responding to threats of libel lawsuits.
You can say whatever you want, but if you libel me I can sue you.
That is what Fox, Newsmax and others are experiencing first hand. They broadcast statements they knew were lies about Dominion and Smartmatic, and now they are being sued by those companies for libel, so they are backpedalling on those lies rapidly.
If they hadn't lied, they wouldn't have to retract.
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Actually that should read "Fox News is not immune from threats to shut them down" Their kow-towing is what is costing them their ratings.
You mean their decision to back away from libeling Dominion, etc. due to the threat of billion-dollar lawsuits. Of course, libel lawsuits are really easy to win if you're telling the truth. But they knew they were lying, so...
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Most Americans don't watch CNN, either.
Re: That's cool (Score:4, Insightful)
You guys live in an echo chamber
You're on Slashdot. This is literally a Libertarian echo chamber. I'm shocked you're sticking with Fox for your argument here.
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>"You're on Slashdot. This is literally a Libertarian echo chamber. "
I don't know what Slashdot you read. But it is nowhere near Libertarian. It is pretty far left, which Libertarians most certainly are not.
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Libertarian cares about no one but themselves. The left actually cares about other.
The point of libertiran is to say fuck off to every one else. That is the ultimate in freedom.
The point of progressives is to help lift up everyone who gets left behind.
In my experience the opposite is the case. The nastiest and most selfish people that I have met in my life are all left wingers while Libertarians have almost always been nice and helpful to other people.
And just because people don't buy the leftist fantasy that their elitist politics will help the poorest does not mean that they don't care about others. But you already knew that.
Re: That's cool (Score:4, Insightful)
>"Libertarian cares about no one but themselves."
Ah, no. They care not only about their own freedom but also about others' freedoms more than anyone else.
>"The left actually cares about other."
They do care about others, but their actions usually end up hurting others more than helping.
>"The point of libertiran is to say fuck off to every one else."
No, it is to say that mostly to government, not to "everyone else." But Libertarians are not anarchists.
>"That is the ultimate in freedom."
That is true.
>"The point of progressives is to help lift up everyone who gets left behind."
No, the point is to micromanage and control others, perhaps trying to help "lift up" some at the expense of holding down everyone else. Usually succeeding only in the latter and not the former. They also typically believe that people's individual rights matter much less than so-called "group" rights. And that people's thoughts and beliefs are dictated by physical or superficial traits, such as sex, age, race, sexual orientation; leading to the poison known as identity politics.
Re: That's cool (Score:5, Interesting)
Actually yes they are. Libertarian cares about no one but themselves. The left actually cares about other.
The point of libertiran is to say fuck off to every one else. That is the ultimate in freedom.
The point of progressives is to help lift up everyone who gets left behind.
Just as there are many different forms of socialism, there are many different forms of libertarianism, and in fact libertarianism originated from the left.
Just as an example, a socialist-libertarian system might make individual liberties very broad while having a good deal of regulation and laws around the behavior of business entities.
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Why do you think libertarians are selfish?
Libertarians are those who want police protection from their slaves, and/or those who imagine that the invisible hand will somehow become benevolent in the absence of external controls and who are thus wholly deluded.
Sure, those lefty moderators are so nice while the righty moderators are all evil...
In short, that's correct. Leftists are much less likely to bury content that they don't agree with simply because they don't like it. All over this story you can see people saying that they're glad that Parler came back up even though they would never use it. If a liberal site got taken down al
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Trump colluded with Russia
Not retracted [cnn.com]. Mueller report showed significant collusion related to Trump, but Mueller was constrained in interviews with several witnesses, and not allowed to ask them relevant questions. Report stated not "no collusion" but "inadequate evidence to seek conviction" but Trumpanzees can't tell the difference between those two things any more than they can between Cheeto Mussolini and a real president.
Trump calls white supremacists "Fine People"
Not retracted [cnn.com], Trump said fine people on both sides, which means he called the tiki-torch bearing n@zis a
so they weren't being censored... (Score:4, Insightful)
So they weren't being censored, they were just shit at sysadmin. Remember when we used to rag on that sort of thing here?
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I don't know. If a service gets big enough and its providers pull the plug, bringing it up elsewhere is not exactly trivial, although arguably given the market position they were attempting to occupy they should have had contingency plans in place.
Fascinating (Score:2, Insightful)
Just WHY is it that "they should have had contingency plans in place", to use your words?
One year ago would ANYBODY have said that any company using Amazon's servers automatically needed to have contingency plans in place (as though AWS was not reliable)? Over the past few years the consensus in the computing universe was that "the cloud" and Amazon's web services were totally reliable - much better than any infrastructure any typical business might be able to setup on its own. Personally I reject the idea
Re:Fascinating (Score:5, Insightful)
If they didn't have disaster recovery plans in place (which they didn't) then their IT leadership is incompetent. You **always** have contingency plans or your business doesn't survive the next emergency.
Re:Fascinating (Score:4, Insightful)
Who had contingency plans for a pandemic? Amazon, Microsoft, every healthcare facility in North America (I've set up quarantine zone security in some), Primera and Safeco Insurance, the Cities of Seattle, Tacoma, Redmond, Bellevue and Everett, Snohomish County Public Utility District, the airports of Seatac, Spokane, and Bellingham, the State of Washington, for starters. Those are ones that I personally know of because they're in our area and/or I've worked with them.
What idiots **DIDN'T have pandemics in their contingency plans? And WHY? There have been several within living memory, although COVID is the worst of course. How did it occur to them that they didn't have to prepare for people working from home because the schools are shut down to stop the spread of influenza or measles?
If you're invested in a company that doesn't have an adequate and flexible disaster recovery plan then I'd highly recommend moving your money somewhere else.
Re:Fascinating (Score:4, Informative)
There have been multiple severe outages of AWS, which have shown that having contingency is required. And the only ones who will start assuming they need contingency for fear of getting thrown out are the ones who, like Parler, get warnings well beforehand that they need to wizen their act up or get thrown out.
Because this was no surprise to Parler. Nor was it as simple as someone saying or doing something some employers didn't like.
And yes, AWS, like any single vendor solution, always was and remains a huge business risk. Anyone not seeing that before Parler is damn lucky they get an eye opener now.
Re:Fascinating (Score:5, Insightful)
If you think that just because you're using a cloud provider, even a large cloud provider, that you don't need a contingency plan in a multi-million-dollar company based on that cloud provider as your primary provider, then you're insane.
You bought into hype that's never been true and any IT professional would laugh you out of the room. Just because some management might try to sell you that because a salesman is selling *them* that, or some small app that got popular sings AWS's praises does NOT mean you can just pivot your entire IT-based business on AWS, or Azure, or any other such system without a contingency.
Especially not if, quite literally, part of your business plan is to be seen as a haven for those people who have been thrown off other services.
AWS just got itself rid of all the troublesome customers that would cost it money, lawyers, time, effort and engineering, while any sensible operation are just using AWS as one of many backends. Apple iCloud, for example, ran for years as a mix of Azure, AWS and other cloud instances:
https://www.theregister.com/20... [theregister.com]
So don't go telling people how to run their business when you don't understand that anybody with any sense has never considered AWS a single bulletproof solution to all their problems. Only an idiot would design a huge IT business like that, and then go piss off AWS (mainly because they didn't read the terms and conditions of AWS usage).
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There's something a lot of so-called "free market" types can't stand and refuse to acknowledge. They fail to understand that just as they're free to "fire" (or boycott, or cancel, whatever) a vendor, that it works BOTH WAYS. I have had to fire some of my customers. These are people who no matter what I did, always found something to complain about. Always something not satisfying. We're talking maybe 1-3% of my total customer base and there just was no pleasing and yet generated probably 80% of my headaches
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You think right wing extremism is the majority? What, next you're going to question whether it has ever been reliably surveyed if the sun will rise tomorrow?
Jeesh you people flip flop more than a fish out of water. What was "Amazon is the internet and should be regulated like a utility" one day becomes "We're online without Amazon" the day after. Likewise what is "the poor oppressed minority being marginalized for having dissenting views, jumping from platform to platform until they eventually find a home i
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I've thought the same thing. I would be very concerned about any project I'm working on being hosted on AWS just being summarily shut down because some Social Justice CryBully got their knickers in a twist. As it stands, AWS is not a trustworthy platform and I would not recommend them for anything.
Re: so they weren't being censored... (Score:5, Insightful)
Collusion is not necessary when the level of public disgust has risen this high. Apple and Google wanted the public notice, AWS just wanted them gone before anyone noticed who was hosting them. AWS had been notifying Parler of TOS violations for months, their association with the attack was the last straw. Parleer joins the discard pile of former AWS customers the the jihadis, revenge porn sites, and drug cartels.
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AWS Lambda? (Score:5, Insightful)
If they were making use of AWS Lambda services then they really did get screwed. They would have to re-implement those portions of their back end. Even if I have no risk of running afoul of Amazon's whims, I still won't commit to vendor lock-in of that magnitude.
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Yeah, AWS is nifty, but sole-source. Not suitable for anyone needing resilience at a high level.
Resilience from your neighbors? Maybe. Until they whine loudly. Resilience from Amazon and governments? Hahahaha.
Re:AWS Lambda? (Score:4, Interesting)
There are a thousand reasons not to use AWS Lambda, but here I'll just list one:
If you committed to Lambda, how did you do resource planning? Did you just kind of hope that Amazon would have enough for you? How do you calculate your latency?
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It is indeed a trickier proposition, but actually AWS does have limits and SLAs on most of this stuff, which they'll tell you if you ask them (if it's not already published - although good luck finding it in the sea of misshapen AWS documentation).
Lambda can do a lot, but it can't do everything - so long as you design inside its capabilities you'll probably do fine. If you assume things, or worse "wish" things were the way you'd like, you'll almost certainly go wrong (at your cost) at some point though. The
Re:AWS Lambda? (Score:5, Interesting)
If they were making use of AWS Lambda services then they really did get screwed.
Lambda is based on firecracker, which is available over here [github.com]. That plus some wrapper code and you're in business. There are already lambda emulators used for development.
Lambda isn't magical.
Firecracker is not enough (Score:2)
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No you don't. If you're AWS with vast numbers of tenants you need that, but if it's your private platform (ah la Parler) you can 'provision' stuff in simple minded ways.
Re:Firecracker is not enough (Score:4)
No you don't. If you're AWS with vast numbers of tenants you need that, but if it's your private platform (ah la Parler) you can 'provision' stuff in simple minded ways.
It's worth noting that for younger cloud-centric folks, PXE is dark magic to them and OS provisioning is almost a lost art. I shouldn't have to be explaining the things I find myself having to do so to folks today that would have been basic knowledge for even a junior sysadmin starting out 15 years ago.
I'm sure the pendulum will swing back in time, but I would be surprised if these Parler guys valued cloud-ease over low-level resilliency. If they did, they probably weren't listening to their own rhetoric about Big Tech being able to do bad things to your economic model with the flip of a switch.
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I'm sure Ten Cent or Alibaba would love to host a forum intent on destroying the US government.
Re:AWS Lambda? (Score:4, Funny)
Lambda is based on firecracker, which is available over here [github.com]. That plus some wrapper code and you're in business. There are already lambda emulators used for development.
Would you look at that. Apparently this is still Slashdot. Who knew.
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Indeed - as you note, you can't get Lambda anywhere else.
However, Google, Oracle and I presume Azure have a "serverless" capability, so you could use that - you do have to re-engineer somewhat to do so, but the core business logic should be fine. The real problems come in because once you've gone down the Lambda route, you probably felt it was no big deal to also use (say) SNS (message queues) or DynamoDB (k/v store). Again, the other providers have the same functionality, but you're in for yet more re-engi
Good! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Good! (Score:4, Insightful)
It makes what people who use the service easier to keep tabs on. That's arguably the raison d'etre of any free-to-use social media platform.
Great! (Score:2, Insightful)
Now Trump Supporters have a place to go and complain about the leftist cancel culture and call for the Senators that voted for impeachment to be censured.
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No they don't, because Trump supporters insisted they were being censored and Amazon was the internet and there's no place for them online. So clearly Parler doesn't actually exist.
What is a REAL Marxist? (Score:2)
More likely to run into their useful idiots (Score:2)
Do you even know a real Marxist? I met a professor who was a real Marxist once.
True, real marxists are rare, Classical or Neo. What you are more likely to run into are their useful idiots. Plenty of those around.
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Do you even know a real Marxist? I met a professor who was a real Marxist once.
My dad likes Groucho [wikipedia.org]. Does that count?
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I mean you guys are here by the dozens.
Dozends! Like as in a couple of multiples of 12? Out of 7 billion people? NO FUCKING WAY!
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Why the hate on for Marx? Seems like an all American thing. Perhaps you hate Jews?
Personally I used to watch "You Bet Your Life", hey free money just for saying the right thing, I guess that is Anti-American.
Re:Great! (Score:4, Insightful)
"Cancel culture" is just the free market in action. Why do you hate capitalism?
not enough as in not surveilling users (Score:2, Informative)
not doing enough to moderate and remove incitements to violence
As in their default policy is to not surveil their users by default. So someone has to complain for them to look at a person. Admittedly they were having problems catching up to the backlog of complaints but the only acceptable immediate solution to Apple, Google and Amazon was to start preemptive screening and data mining of all posts.
Yeah they screwed up their rollout and yeah they should have been better able to respond to complaints. A 1.0 rollout screwed up, imagine that. Still it would be nice to h
Re:not enough as in not surveilling users (Score:4, Insightful)
Yeah they screwed up their rollout and yeah they should have been better able to respond to complaints. A 1.0 rollout screwed up, imagine that. Still it would be nice to have a social media option where one is not data mined and profiled by default, which is their goal.
Seems like their goal is to collect incriminating information on right-wing extremists, considering that they require IDs and leave up public calls for violent insurrection for posterity. That Parler database is going to help a ton of FBI prosecutors seal the fate of many members of the Trumpist sedition mob.
"Hacked" their way to an ARIN lookup? (Score:3)
Seriously, there's no magic in this. The IP address registry is quite literally as old as public IP addressing!
I'm sure these are competent IT people, but doling out praise for basic reading/typing skills devalues IT skills as a whole.
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"Fingerprints" as in typing "host" and "whois <ip>"
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Well, to be fair, they were using mechanical keyboards with Cherry Blues...
Too late, Gab stole many of your users (Score:5, Interesting)
The number of Parler users who permanently switched to Gab is pretty incredible. Gab was barely usable because of the load that the news users put on it, and Gab is now by a very wide margin the largest Mastodon-based site in the world. It has several million users now and the active engagement stats they're posting put them at a level of theoretical worth greater than a lot of significant brands on the Internet. The only reason they're struggling to explode on revenue is the constant efforts (most successful) to persecute them out of the financial transaction systems.
And even worse for Parler, the vast majority of self-identifying Parler refugees on Gab say they're done with Parler. They're burned by Parler and want a platform lead by a CEO who actually takes free speech seriously and doesn't run a technical and privacy shitshow.
Re:Too late, Gab stole many of your users (Score:4, Interesting)
The only reason they're struggling to explode on revenue is the constant efforts (most successful) to persecute them out of the financial transaction systems.
No, the reason it's tough to make bank when running an online cesspool is that most sponsors don't want to touch you with a 39-and-a-half-foot pole, and the users are generally a bunch of cheapskates.
Hell, amateur porn stars manage to make money by accepting Bitcoin donations. It's not rocket surgery, provided your customers are actually willing to open their wallets.
Just build your own (Score:3, Insightful)
I think we can put to bed the absurd lie that you can just build your own services now.
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Oooh, a cabal! When do they meet? Can I come? Do I have to bring something? Is it casual dress or do they all wear suits?
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Oooh, a cabal! When do they meet? Can I come? Do I have to bring something? Is it casual dress or do they all wear suits?
Um, that's the scary thing. They more or less openly worked together. They publish articles in Time Magazine bragging about it.
You kinda lose the right to call it a crazy conspiracy theory when the participants openly brag about it.
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I find attacks on free speech harming for all (Score:2, Insightful)
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You're clearly mis-remembering the BBS days. Most SysOps had a God complex, and rightfully so. Running a smaller BBS as a hobby generally was a net negative drain on your income and free time. If someone was being a dick on hardware you paid for, through phone lines you're also paying for, you generally didn't hesitate to show them the business end of the ban hammer.
Most folks quickly learned that being allowed to access someone else's machine over a modem was a privilege, not a right.
Should have renamed the site (Score:2)
to neenerneener.com
Better sell your SkySilk stock now (Score:2)
Show of hands! (Score:2)
Reply to this comment if you would not have heard of Parler or its return if not for the media constantly bitching and whining about it.
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Reply to this comment if you would not have heard of Parler or its return if not for the media constantly bitching and whining about it.
That's how I heard about it. I was immediately interested, I'll admit.
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I was interested until I saw they still require your phone number to set up an account.
I'm sort of generally sick of social media (Score:3)
I honestly want to go back to hosting my own site, writing my own insane ramblings, and occasionally have my friends that I know and have hung out with IRL comment on them. Just thinking of hiding all of my old posts on social media, and making a post to my new site.
Tangle with Amazon? (Score:2, Insightful)
Actually, it was the crazy right-wing shit at Capitol Hill that knocked it offline.
Re:Tangle with Amazon? (Score:5, Informative)
Then actually, it would have been Twitter, Facebook and Youtube that would have been kicked offline, as that's where most of the protest was planned. But those companies donate to the DNC, unlike Parler, so...
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Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube have policies in place to remove content that violates their ToS which includes content intended to incite violence. Parler does not. That is the key difference. Amazon likely recognizes individual users are going to post whatever they want regardless of a ToS, but as long as Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube seem to be making an honest attempt to remove the content as they become aware of it, that's a lot better than what Parler was doing, which was to blatantly refuse to follow
Servers based in LA? (Score:2)
Seems like a bad idea to use servers based anywhere in the U.S., the same attacks will happen again.
There must be some decent offshore hosting (maybe Mexico?) that is not as prone to morality judgements.
Twitter competitors (Score:2, Insightful)
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You misspelled free market. I'm glad their safe space is back.
Re:Will be signing up shortly.. (Score:5, Funny)
Who needs secret police when these morons were live streaming their own crimes.
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Parler isn't an English word. It means "to speak" in French. Do you think the site's stupid-ass, low IQ hick users even realize that? They're probably conflating it with parlor. LOL. If these deplorable dumb shits ever did realize that, they would quit the site in droves because after all, these are the same dumb fucks who changed French fries to freedom fries when France wasn't stupid enough to play ball during the Bush's Iraq quagmire war.
The only thing I find funny about this is how both sides call each other "low information", and both sides are correct.
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My thought is that they actually meant for the site to be a " a room used primarily for conversation" called a "parlor", but spelled it wrong and can't admit it.
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Shutting Trump's Twitter down seems to have shut him up.
Shutting down Parler certainly shut up all those people on Twitter telling us we should all move to Parler because Twitter wasn't "free-speech safe".
So, I dunno, this kind of private censorship seems to do a far better job than just trying to oppress people on a state level.
Comparing people's racist rants on Parler to money spent on drug wars is kind of disparate, though.