YouTube Kills Discord's Best Music Bot (pcgamer.com) 27
YouTube has issued a cease-and-desist order against the creator of Groovy, who has agreed to shut down the widely-popular music bot on August 30th. PC Gamer reports: Effectively a tool for adding background tunes to a chat room, Groovy worked by pulling audio directly from YouTube videos, joining voice calls, and playing music queued up by users [...]. It was ridiculously popular, reportedly installed on over 16 million servers. But it seems Google wasn't so hot on the bot, with a spokesperson for the company told The Verge that Groovy violated YouTube's terms of service for "modifying the service and using it for commercial purposes."
In that same report, Groovy creator Nik Ammerlaan (who made the bot because "my friend's bot sucked and I thought I could make a better one") admitted that this was likely a long-time coming. Groovy circumvents YouTube's front-end and advertising entirely. "I'm not sure why they decided to send it [a cease and desist] now," said Ammerlaan. "They probably just didn't know about it, to be honest. It was just a matter of seeing when it would happen."
In that same report, Groovy creator Nik Ammerlaan (who made the bot because "my friend's bot sucked and I thought I could make a better one") admitted that this was likely a long-time coming. Groovy circumvents YouTube's front-end and advertising entirely. "I'm not sure why they decided to send it [a cease and desist] now," said Ammerlaan. "They probably just didn't know about it, to be honest. It was just a matter of seeing when it would happen."
When the void awakes. (Score:3)
"I'm not sure why they decided to send it [a cease and desist] now," said Ammerlaan. "They probably just didn't know about it, to be honest.
Probably the same people who run Google's customer service. They don't realize a lot of things either.
Just release the source code (Score:5, Interesting)
Then YouTube can go play whack-a-mole.
Copyright considerations (Score:3)
Besides the loss of ad revenue, YouTube would be concerned about copyright, as most likely the contracts they negotiated with the music publishers wouldn't include permissions to play the music except on YouTube itself.
I hate to say it (Score:2)
But the age of "do it and beg forgivness" seems to coming to an end.
Hack a system and get a fat job? No get a prison term.
Make "kewl" hack that circumvents things? The lawyers show up.
They aren't done with him yet
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Hack a system and get a fat job?
That hasn't been common for at least 30 years.
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Yeah. The rise of the university security degree kind of put an end to that. Why hire the guy with a criminal record to guard your security when theres some dude who did his masters degree in it and actually can prove he knows the best.practices on how to secure an organization. None of which to say he'll have anything like the *experience* of the ex hacker, but also probably knows a lot more about how to configure an effective firewall and set up an SOE with reliable and repeatable patch schedules.
That sai
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That said, he probably doesnt know shit about code reviewing your in house apps for obvious security holes. Mindyou, chances are, neither do your coders.
There are some universities that are teaching that now. Georgia Tech seems to have a really good program, as do some universities in Korea. The Koreans won DEFCON capture the flag in a convincing fashion.
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See some of the previous replies... But I agree with you.
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What are you talking about. That is literally still begging for forgiveness, it's just that people aren't as forgiving as you think.
Also we are biased by only hearing about the negative examples.
Hell to your example, remember only 2 weeks ago we ran a story about Poly Network having their Crypto wallets cleared out of $600m worth? Well, they've offer the hacker who stole from them a job: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/1... [cnbc.com]
Here is one tune people really need to listen to (Score:2)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=... [youtube.com]
Listen and chill the fuck out you uptight no fun puritains! (society)
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I'm going to break into your home with the hope of you being so impressed, you hire me for security.
If that fails, I still have your stuff :)
Insanely jealous (Score:2)
Googlers are insanely jealous of anybody who actually knows how to be cool.
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Googlers also get their knickers in a knot when they run into actual smart people as opposed to self proclaimed ones.
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Right, you're here.
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Incoming Google-backed YouTube-driven music bot product offering...
...which will then be shut down within a year
There's so many others though (Score:2)
Groovy could rebadge their brand so they can continue operations effectively uninterrupted. Absolutely nothing will change except the name of the bot being used in Discord channels one way or another.
Also: how does Slashdot still not have even a basic text formatting editor for comments? The mind boggles.
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Also: how does Slashdot still not have even a basic text formatting editor for comments? The mind boggles.
It's part of the charm, or so they say.
My long-standing wet dream is the Powers That Be at slashdot allowing a 2-minute grace period so you could edit your post to correct mistakes or typos. But apparently it's impossible, no web app could or will ever be able to do that.
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How... obscene. What's next? Uploading images?
That's a slippery slope I don't want to start going down.
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Also: how does Slashdot still not have even a basic text formatting editor for comments?
It has HTML markup. I don't know why you would want anything more.
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You have to memorize HTML. Plus it's burden switching from Markup to HTML and back. At least some website packages have some of this built into the editor form.
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You have to memorize HTML.
No respect. I was born knowing HTML.
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Your pediatrician must have been surprised at how small your website was.
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You have to memorize HTML
Seeing as slashdot started as a form for perl developers and technology enthusiasts, the expectation is you know HTML.
But what do you need to memorize? The HTML tags are literally displayed exactly ONE line below the submit button.
You've been staring right at them each and every time you made a post, and they will be there the next time you go to make a post.
Ridiculously Popular! (Score:5, Funny)
Never heard of it.
What are they trying to achieve? (Score:1)
Watching a YT video IS downloading the audio and video file. There is no one without the other.
And it's going to my PC. And I'm the one telling my CPU what to do.
Why in the world would I tell my CPU to obey YouTube's request to free that storage area for other uses after? I mean other than it being more utter Content Mafia crap, of course.
As I said countless times: You want money for a mere copy that you did not work for? Sure! Here's a mere copy of my money that I did not work for. Now fuck off and come ba
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You absolutely do not have to use YouTube if you don't agree with their terms of use. Or, you can circumvent their policies. But you should not expect them to make that easy.