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Lenovo's First Windows 11 Laptops Run On Ryzen (pcworld.com) 59

Posted by BeauHD from the new-and-shiny dept.
Lenovo will ring in the arrival of Windows 11 with a pair of premium AMD Ryzen-based laptops. PCWorld reports: The IdeaPad Slim 7 Carbon will feature a carbon lid and aluminum body to go with its drop-dead gorgeous 14-inch OLED screen. Besides the infinite contrast an OLED provides, Lenovo will use a fast 90Hz, 2880x1800 panel with an aspect ratio of 16:10 on the Slim 7 Carbon. That's just over 5 megapixels with a density of 243 pixels-per-inch. This is one smoking screen. But this beauty goes deeper than the skin. Inside the Slim 7 Carbon, you'll find an 8-core Ryzen 7 5800U with an optional Nvidia GeForce MX450 GPU. Lenovo will offer up to 16GB of power efficient LPDDR4X RAM and up to a 1TB PCIe SSD.
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If a 14-inch screen laptop with a GeForce MX450 isn't enough for you, Lenovo also unveiled a new IdeaPad Slim 7 Pro. It's aimed at someone who needs a little more oomph. The laptop also features a 16:10 aspect ratio screen, which we consider superior to 16:9 aspect ratio laptops for getting work done. The IPS panel shines at a very bright 500 nits, and it's rated for 100 percent of the sRGB spectrum with an option for a 120Hz refresh rate version. Inside the laptop you'll find an 8-core Ryzen 7 5800H, up to 16GB of DDR4, a 1TB PCIe SSD, and up to a GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop graphics chip. Compared to the Slim 7 Carbon, you should expect the CPU to run faster thanks to the additional thermal headroom of the H-class Ryzen chip. The GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU, meanwhile, is based on Nvidia's newest "Ampere" GPU cores instead of the older "Turing" GPU the GeForce MX450 uses in the Slim 7 Carbon. That upgrade translates to far better gaming performance, hardware ray tracing support, and the inclusion of Nvidia hardware encoding and decoding, which can help you use Adobe Premiere on the road.
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  • I am wondering if we can upgrade these to Win 10? Otherwise, no thank you.

    • Why go just half way? Upgrade all the way to Linux.

    • I was thinking about Windows 2000.... that's when I switched to Linux.

    • You're probably joking but, if not, what's better in Win 10 compared to 11? Isn't 11 just a minor evolution over 10?

      • "Evolution"? Devolution more like. The new "features," like moving the only stable thing windows has had going for it (the start button) to the middle of the screen, or the even bigger data scraping and ad shoving, aren't anything anybody wants. But we'll all get stuck swallowing that shit at our work places anyway, because executives are convinced you can't work if you're not running Windows.

  • Only 16GB of memory? (Score:3)

    by idontusenumbers ( 1367883 ) on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @06:23PM (#61777295)

    How are we still allowing a maximum memory of 16GB? That's not enough for Chrome, one heavy application, and a VM.

    • On an ultra-mobile laptop. Just use Edge and block ads and you'll have plenty left over for running a VM

      • I've used Edge (which is Chrome now), IntelliJ IDEA, and a VM (for running docker, through WSL2); Windows kills the WSL2 VM without notice or feedback and containers just stop responding.

        • Linux doesn't break a sweat with that load on 16G, you can go way higher.

          • Do you mean that linux apps use less memory or do you mean that it doesn't have the WSL bug that windows has when it runs out of memory? I'm sure the latter is true, after all, it's not windows. I suspect the former is false. On top of that, Linux has it's on issues that Mac and Windows don't have.

          • Just TRY building an Android AOSP ROM on a laptop with only 16gb... at least 2 or 3 times out of 10, it'll crap out with a misleading error message before it's finished. Building AOSP needs 24gb MIN... 32, if you dare to do anything ELSE while the build is running for 6-12 hours.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by dfghjk ( 711126 )

      but plenty for an Apple M1, or so SuperKendall tells us

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by cowdung ( 702933 )

      Yeah 16gb is so 10 years ago.
      The laptops I'll be buying will need to have 64gb ideally. I don't want to have to buy a new one next year, and we often work with some RAM intensive software.

    • yeah that is the part that stood out for me too, great specs, great internals and .. Memory limit from 5 years ago.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      I wonder if that's the maximum the machine supports or the maximum that they will offer to configure it for.

      Back in the day you often couldn't order a Thinkpad with the maximum supported RAM, and in fact the official word was that it only supported say 2GB when in fact you could install 4GB. There was a difference between what Lenovo had tested and guaranteed would work, and what you could fit yourself.

      Ryzen itself is like that on desktop too. Officially most motherboards don't support ECC RAM, but in pract

    • How are we still allowing a maximum memory of 16GB? That's not enough for Chrome, one heavy application, and a VM.

      So what you're saying is that it will be more than enough for 99.9% of people out there who don't run Chrome, one heavy application, and a VM.

      • It's also not enough for Chrome and three or so heavy applications.

        It may be more than enough for 99.9% of laptop users, but most of those aren't interested in a powerful, (more) expensive machine like this one. I'd say of the people that would be interested in this exact machine, way more than 0.1% are going to be turned away by the memory quantity.

        16GB seems like an odd pairing for a high end 8 core CPU. If someone's just browsing the net or video chatting or whatever, seems like a cheaper, lower end lapt

        • It's nothing of the sort. The reality is unless you're running VMs and really have multiple workstation applications open and running full tilt at the same time even power users are perfectly fine with 16GB. That's more than enough for any programming activity, video editing, photo editing (although I do use 32GB when editing photos more than a few hundred megapixels at once).

          You use case for more than 16GB of RAM is quite rare. The use case for an 8 core CPU is not.

          • As I explained, as a programming activity, when working on a small application, with Chrome, IDEA, and a VM (docker in WSL2), I run into out of memory errors.

            • Exactly, you're an edge case. What you're describing is not "Chrome + 3 heavy applications".

              • Edge case of what? Doing graphics work or video work would get to 16GB fast too. Anyone doing work outside a browser or maybe Office apps.

    • For 98% of users, if not more, it's more than enough.

      Also, I run and enjoy working with VMs but who the hell still runs them on their local machine?

      • As I pointed out in other comments, 98% of all users or users buying this machine? Any developer using Windows and Docker would be running a VM implicitly. Windows handles the WSL2 docker VM pretty poorly and when memory usage gets to about 15GB, it just kills the docker VM without notice, even when there's still plenty of swap space left.

  • I got a "new" Lenovo notebook for work about 7 months ago, and I will NEVER buy another one. Lenovo openly admits they have a firmware issue with their power buttons, and they won't fix it!

    This wouldn't be a massive issue, except to get around the problem you have to remove the back, unplug the battery, and just hope it will "fix" the issue.

    When you do this, you run the risks of f'ing the security keys that sign the drivers, and then say good buy to your Webcam, Bluetooth, etc..., without doing a res
    • I wish IBM never would have sold to Lenovo. IBM Laptops and Notebooks were awesome back them. Lenovo started out promising after the sale, but as you point out, quality has been steadily trending dowhill over the years.
      • True! I remember my first notebook was my fathers old Thinkbook, that notebook was crazy high quality, and it's still working!

      • Lenovo had both shit and good machines when they were being made for IBM too.

        The T41's were known for case cracks causing board flex causing bga failures, and the M51's had the same capacitor failure that all the P4 systems had in the same time frame.

        Ironically the systems which immediately followed under Lenovo branding were better than average, but Lenovo's executive leadership has been highly questionable regardless.

    • This is a inverse of my Lenovo experience.

      The diagnostic tool they provide that you need to run to report error codes for repair has a bootable USB version specifically for Linux users (I have no idea if the Windows version is a bootable USB as well).

      Their thin, light laptops still socket almost everything, their website lists every part and even has a not listing which can and cannot be replaced by a user, repair person or Lenovo technician (in terms of the warranty). The M.2 drive for example is user repl

      • Wow! That's very different from my experience.

        • Wow! That's very different from my experience.

          Yeah... I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that service is often something of a crapshoot with many large companies. I think it depends on which department you end up in. It felt very much like I was in the B2B oriented department, which at Lenovo is good, apparently. Dell on the other hand, I've had just terrible service from them, others I know have reported much better.

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    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      What model is this? Is it a Lenovo consumer laptop or is it a Thinkpad?

      Lenovo consumer stuff seems to be a completely different division and often isn't so great, but Thinkpads are almost unbeatable.

      • Kind of like my experience with HP: pro stuff is quality, consumer stuff is not. I have a menagerie of refurb thinkpads, though of course none of them will ever run Win11.

      • ThinkBook G2 14

        This specific power button issues has been confirmed by Lenovo and other Lenovo users to exist on many other models going back years. It wasn't a major issue until my notebook locked up 3 times in 1 days, and the third time when I removed the battery the keys wiped themselves, f'ing my drivers. It took a resetting the EFI, and installing the source kernel packages before Linux would accept the hardware.

        • Re: (Score:1)

          by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          Ah, the infamous and quickly abandoned ThinkBook range. A sort of more stylish Thinkpad, but not an actual Thinkpad or up to Thinkpad build quality.

    • Thank you for the heads up, I was about to buy a Lenovo because a random dude on the internet said it would work fine with Linux. Maybe I'll just have to do some more market research.

  • If Lenovo really wants to fix a tragic mistake, they should rework next year's p17 to include at least one 2.5" bay. Preferably, one that can take a 15mm thick drive. M2 ssd is awesome, but sometimes, you really need a big, slow second drive to store bulk tonnage on.

    Seriously, how far have we fallen? In 2014, a 17" Dell Precision had 2x2.5" + optical (that could take a third 7.5mm 2.5" drive + mSATA card. Today, the p17 can only take two m2 cards... no optical bay, no 2.5" bays, and no ExpressCard slot. And

  • Like rice n'beans?

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