Are You Ready To Share Your Analprint With Big Tech? (theguardian.com) 81
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: For the past 10 years, Sonia Grego has been thinking about toilets -- and more specifically what we deposit into them. "We are laser-focused on the analysis of stool," says the Duke University research professor, with all the unselfconsciousness of someone used to talking about bodily functions. "We think there is an incredible untapped opportunity for health data. And this information is not tapped because of the universal aversion to having anything to do with your stool." As the co-founder of Coprata, Grego is working on a toilet that uses sensors and artificial intelligence to analyze waste; she hopes to have an early model for a pilot study ready within nine months. "The toilet that you have in your home has not functionally changed in its design since it was first introduced," she says, in the second half of the 19th century. There are, of course, now loos with genital-washing capabilities, or heated seats, but this is basic compared with what Grego is envisaging. "All other aspects of your life -- your electricity, your communication, even your doorbell -- have enhanced capabilities."
Smart toilet innovators believe the loo could become the ultimate health monitoring tool. Grego believes her product -- which analyses and tracks stool samples and sends the data to an app -- will provide "information related to cancer and many chronic diseases." For general consumers, it will provide peace of mind, she says, by establishing "a healthy baseline": "Having technology that tracks what is normal for an individual could provide an early warning that a checkup is needed." For people with specific conditions, such as inflammatory bowel disease, the device could provide helpful monitoring for doctors. "It's very difficult to know when to escalate or de-escalate treatment," she says. "Stool-based biomarkers can provide that information." At some point, she thinks, a smart toilet could make lifestyle suggestions -- it could tell you to eat more fibre or certain nutrients, for instance, or work out what kind of food triggered an uncomfortable gastric episode. "The science of nutrition is really moving in the direction of personalized nutrition," says Grego. "Our technology will be an enabler of this, because you have information of what you eat, but we can make seamless the obtaining of information of what comes out." Researchers at the Stanford School of Medicine have been working on technology that can analyze feces (including "stool dropping time") and track the velocity and color of urine, as well as test it. According to the Wall Street Journal, the researchers have partnered with Izen, a Korean toilet manufacturer that's developed a scanner that can recognize the physical characteristics of whoever is sitting on the toilet -- or, in the words of the researchers, "the distinctive features of their anoderm" (the skin of the anal canal). While many people are ready for the smart toilet era, Stanford's study of user acceptance found that the "least favored module is analprint."
The Guardian article continues: Is all this -- your analprint out in the world, the makeup of your bowel movements analyzed -- a privacy breach too far? "Can it be kept secure?" asks Eerke Boiten, a professor of cybersecurity at De Montfort University in Leicester. [...] Many people "wouldn't, for very good reasons, like cameras pointing up their bottoms," says Phil Booth, the coordinator of MedConfidential, which campaigns for the confidentiality of medical records. That said, under the guidance of a medical professional, "there are not necessarily inherent privacy risks" in using a smart toilet as a medical device, he says. However, it might get interesting if the data created by general consumer use was owned by a company: "You may trust that particular company, but every company is pretty much buyable by Google or Facebook or Amazon. Then, what I thought was something for my own health monitoring has become fodder to business models I really know nothing about."
Where does it end? Could the police or others involved in surveillance track you by analprint, via the public and home smart lavatories you visit? Might you be asked to provide a print at a police station? [...] "Once you start to measure something that is of the body, the privacy line is stepped over," says Booth. "If you don't measure what's going on with someone's bowel movements, the bowel movement is private." This is an alarming thought -- but, says Booth with a laugh, it is not as though governments will mandate smart toilets. He says there will always be people -- those into the "quantified self" movement -- who are happy to measure and track themselves. If smart loos are considered clinical devices collecting medical data, "then it's a straight medical breach risk -- not special to toilets, but because you've turned the toilet into a medical data-generating experience. Are they managing those risks correctly?"
Smart toilet innovators believe the loo could become the ultimate health monitoring tool. Grego believes her product -- which analyses and tracks stool samples and sends the data to an app -- will provide "information related to cancer and many chronic diseases." For general consumers, it will provide peace of mind, she says, by establishing "a healthy baseline": "Having technology that tracks what is normal for an individual could provide an early warning that a checkup is needed." For people with specific conditions, such as inflammatory bowel disease, the device could provide helpful monitoring for doctors. "It's very difficult to know when to escalate or de-escalate treatment," she says. "Stool-based biomarkers can provide that information." At some point, she thinks, a smart toilet could make lifestyle suggestions -- it could tell you to eat more fibre or certain nutrients, for instance, or work out what kind of food triggered an uncomfortable gastric episode. "The science of nutrition is really moving in the direction of personalized nutrition," says Grego. "Our technology will be an enabler of this, because you have information of what you eat, but we can make seamless the obtaining of information of what comes out." Researchers at the Stanford School of Medicine have been working on technology that can analyze feces (including "stool dropping time") and track the velocity and color of urine, as well as test it. According to the Wall Street Journal, the researchers have partnered with Izen, a Korean toilet manufacturer that's developed a scanner that can recognize the physical characteristics of whoever is sitting on the toilet -- or, in the words of the researchers, "the distinctive features of their anoderm" (the skin of the anal canal). While many people are ready for the smart toilet era, Stanford's study of user acceptance found that the "least favored module is analprint."
The Guardian article continues: Is all this -- your analprint out in the world, the makeup of your bowel movements analyzed -- a privacy breach too far? "Can it be kept secure?" asks Eerke Boiten, a professor of cybersecurity at De Montfort University in Leicester. [...] Many people "wouldn't, for very good reasons, like cameras pointing up their bottoms," says Phil Booth, the coordinator of MedConfidential, which campaigns for the confidentiality of medical records. That said, under the guidance of a medical professional, "there are not necessarily inherent privacy risks" in using a smart toilet as a medical device, he says. However, it might get interesting if the data created by general consumer use was owned by a company: "You may trust that particular company, but every company is pretty much buyable by Google or Facebook or Amazon. Then, what I thought was something for my own health monitoring has become fodder to business models I really know nothing about."
Where does it end? Could the police or others involved in surveillance track you by analprint, via the public and home smart lavatories you visit? Might you be asked to provide a print at a police station? [...] "Once you start to measure something that is of the body, the privacy line is stepped over," says Booth. "If you don't measure what's going on with someone's bowel movements, the bowel movement is private." This is an alarming thought -- but, says Booth with a laugh, it is not as though governments will mandate smart toilets. He says there will always be people -- those into the "quantified self" movement -- who are happy to measure and track themselves. If smart loos are considered clinical devices collecting medical data, "then it's a straight medical breach risk -- not special to toilets, but because you've turned the toilet into a medical data-generating experience. Are they managing those risks correctly?"
analprint my ass (Score:5, Funny)
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I think it goes in the toilet, not up your ass.
Re:analprint my ass (Score:5, Funny)
This was an unfortunate choice of words from the researchers: “can recognize the physical characteristics of whoever is sitting on the toilet [by] the distinctive features of their anoderm” (the skin of the anal canal)." Everyone imagines a photo of their anal area is stored in the device.
It will take some spin control or creative marketing to wipe the image of having your anus photographed for identification, otherwise sales of this device will be down the toilet.
If the researchers had instead said "by the unique sub-dermal vein patterns read by a near-Infrared sensor", most people would have less qualms about it. A picture of the veins under the skin does not have the same naughtiness factor that a visible light photograph does. Most people would see something that looks like a subway diagram when viewing their vein patterns.
Many people are familiar with the blood vessels inside their eyes being used for biometric identification and even Amazon is using the vein patterns in the hand to provide purchasing authorization. I'm guessing the company will be rethinking about using the scanner from the Korean toilet manufacturer Izen if they plan to bring this toilet to market.
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I mean, it's weird but after a little reflection I've decided that I don't care if my "analprint" is distributed far and wide.
Have at it, marketers, go wild with a high-res pic of my butthole. I can't wait to see what you try to get me to buy with it.
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I shit on them and all their data demands.
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Re: analprint my ass (Score:1)
iShit, brought to you by Apple.
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iShit, brought to you by Apple.
There is already a line for this new product.
Smart toilet (Score:5, Funny)
I'm willing to accept the idea of a smart toilet, but they really need to work on their marketing. It's just too anal.
Old stuff ... (Score:2)
I was hoping this has become quite commonplace by now:
https://www.theonion.com/new-e... [theonion.com]
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The question is, "Do you want to go today?"
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Why did I have to scroll down this far, to see this??
This seems like a (Score:3, Funny)
Re: This seems like a (Score:2)
The New Model (Score:2)
yeesh (Score:3)
As if Facebook moderators don't have enough crap on their plate.
1984 was never this deep. (Score:2)
First there was the CCTV. Now there's The Probe. Every place there's a restroom there's The Probe. Big Brother will have his finger in everyone's business. What secrets will he learn? That you're a shitty person at your job? And when things move on to the rest of your openings, like the throat. Things could start to get deep.
Absurd fearmongering (Score:2)
Tracking movement by peoples' public restroom poops is utterly absurd. Those are very inconsistent data points compared to their phones and public surveillance cameras, most people don't even use a restroom outside of home and work most days. The only people interested in stealing your analprint will be insurance companies.
I live in a country where.... (Score:4, Insightful)
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Howdy neighbour *friendly open grin*
Mind if I look at your poo?
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Dysentery certainly was a bitch.
Re: I live in a country where.... (Score:2)
I know. Always fucking screwed me in my games.
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400,000 people crossed the Great Plains, the dessert, and the Sierra Nevada Mountains in wagons pulled by animals, without so much as a fucking aspirin tablet. I'm kinda ashamed of what we've become.
That was the easy way. The real men sailed around Cape Horn in wooden boats.
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Pfft, didn't some polynesians sail to Hawaii in what were essentially big canoes?
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No, some Polynesians sailed to Easter Island and probably South America in their Canoes. The wussies went to Hawaii.
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Yeah, and we back in the days, we *walked* to the south pole, ... and then to the moon with no oxygen! ... Barefoot, with icicles between our toes, nude, with a frozen dick, in a blizzard, after rubbing ourselves in steel wool, salt and then acid! And we only ate rashing prickberries before they were ripe and too soft for our naked bleeding gums, after drinking out own piss!
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without so much as a fucking aspirin tablet. I'm kinda ashamed of what we've become.
They didn't have the synthetically-created salicylic acid tablet called Aspirin, but they did have willow bark. Willow bark has been used for centuries and while it has less salicylic acid than aspirin, it does have other properties that make it similarly effective for many analgesic purposes.
Many believe that willow is the natural source of aspirin. However, willow species contain only a low quantity of the prodrug salicin which is metabolized during absorption into various salicylate derivatives. If calc
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I don't get this argument. Many of them died of dysentery and other problems that are easily treatable now, and I'm sure they would have appreciated painkillers instead of just suffering through it.
There is very little honour in suffering when you could easily avoid it. Without painkillers I'd be next to useless too, and I like to think that my life has some value. I'm sure my foes would disagree.
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Yes, and 100,000 of them died because they didn't have analprints!
If only they'd had the foresight to take high-res pics of their buttholes, they might still be alive today.
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Re: I live in a country where.... (Score:2)
Well if I knew there was dessert there I would have gone too.
it's routine (Score:2)
Or it will be soon. We already give blood, piss & shit to the lab for analysis. Some even give sperm. It's simply a matter of frequency: when you have the analysis in your toilet, you get results daily. As far as the camera; how many people will recognize your butthole in a lineup? If it's a lot, then blame yourself, not the camera for your loss of privacy.
Yes \o/ (Score:2)
So glad to have been asked.
Goatse.cx
(Not really goatse - don't send me any weird shit!)
Why the fuck? (Score:3)
Alien anal probe was supposed to be a joke, not a fucking prediction of the dystopian future!
Also, more evidence that reptilians are among us.
A few thoughts (Score:3)
1. Betteridge's Law of Headlines is strong on this one.
2. I smell an IgNobel coming out of this. [*]
3. Is the world ready for The Smart IUD?
[*] Yeah, I'm sure you saw what I did there. But did you see the other thing I did there?
Been Sharing My Anal Print For Years (Score:2)
Decades even. Now that my mooning days are over this gets popular.
O well, time to unzip again.
Smart Pipe (Score:5, Funny)
Nuh uh, can't do it, Adult Swim already advertised Smart Pipe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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Oh my god, you son of a bitch. And here I thought adult swim was just Robot Chicken. I may not see sunlight for days...
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That's a joke but ok, Smart Pipe is already better than the product in tfa. Smart Pipe self cleans, which is actually the toilet I want. My toilet cleaning days are done.
Urinary and gastrointestinal function (Score:3)
Urinary and gastrointestinal function are very important. If you're a spring chicken with no health issues, the system works perfectly and invisibly. As you get older, things can start going awry. Blood in urine or stool, various indicators of illness can be detected in the nether regions. A toilet which can analyze these things would be beneficial to health.
Now I agree the last part: "a Korean toilet manufacturer that's developed a scanner that can recognize the physical characteristics of whoever is sitting on the toilet -- or, in the words of the researchers, "the distinctive features of their anoderm" (the skin of the anal canal). While many people are ready for the smart toilet era, Stanford's study of user acceptance found that the "least favored module is analprint" - seems like it could have significant privacy problems. But are there specific health benefits to it? The issues would need to be balanced.
Is this an out of season April's Fool joke? (Score:2)
"Can you keep it secure?" I don't think anyone wants to fake my anal print. Unless you're into that sort of thing.
I for one welcome our ... (Score:2)
oh never mind.
We've seen this before (Score:4, Funny)
It's just a shittier version of Theranos.
...yes but we wish we had not (Score:2)
Sure you can have my anal print! (Score:1)
I would say new Theranos (Score:2)
I would say this is a new Theranos investor scam but uBiome already tried this scam.
Careful what you ask for (Score:1)
"Google, you can go sniff my ass!"
Google: "Okay..."
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Well, that certainly puts the "anal" in "analysis" (Score:2)
And just think, it's at the proper end for gathering data on political affiliation.
Coming soon to the iPhone (Score:2)
At the rate Apple is adding health sensors to the iPhone and iWatch, it seems natural they'll include fecal scanners eventually. Just drop your waterproof phone in the loo and retrieve before flushing.
The analprint also seems useful for biometric security. We can replace "swipe to unlock" with "wipe to unlock".
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On the positive side, this will dramatically reduce the amount of time we spend by looking at our smartphone...
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If Hank had an iPhone he would never have realised Walter White is Heisenberg...
Multiple Users (Score:2)
In a family home with mother, father, 2 daughters, and 3 sons -- 7 people -- but only 3 bathrooms, how will individuals be distinguished. Oh, 2 of the sons are twins. It is a large family, but there are more.
There are frequent visits by aunts and uncles, cousins, grand-parents, and of course friends. Not all of them have smart toilets at home. Thus, they are not registered in the system.
Somehow, all this makes me think of facial recognition where someone is a germaphobe and always wears a surgical face
Anal print? (Score:2)
Gonna scan my culo before you let me into the colo?
You're sitting on it wrong (Score:3)
Anal print is already how I unlock my iPhone.
Poster was joking, but... (Score:2)
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I guess it would make a good signature stamp, then.
Latest holiday craze, everybody needs one. Send a gift pack today, mold kit included!
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This is certainly one of those things where I'd really want to know how someone found this out. It's either a really good story or someone for the sex offender list.
No (Score:2)
(n/t)
vaccination / covid testing (Score:2)
It's trivial to get people not just to accept it, but to mandate it. If it is possible to do 'rona diagnostic or vaccination based on urine/feces, the mandate for "smart" toilets to track down unvaccinated people would be widely accepted by governments across the world.
Let me think .... Errrm ... No. (Score:2)
EOM
Late to the game; we already have smart pipes (Score:1)
Constant monitoring (Score:2)
Are they Collecting with their Tongues? (Score:2)
Are they collecting the analprint with their tongues?
I'll stop wiping by ass after taking a shit to prepare!
They can photograph the stamp (Score:2)
...I left behind when sitting down in my white bathrobe.
I won't be (Score:1)
a stool pigeon!
Health insurance claim DENIED (Score:2)
That's what all of this will really lead up to.
It's about time (Score:2)
We've been doing it for animals and pets for hundreds of years. It's also something that my mother taught me to check (basic colour) when I was 7.
This, like so many other things, medical devices included, don't themselves have privacy concerns. The problem is that we still don't have any [enforced] laws about data privacy at all!
It ought to be really super-simple (the law itself, not its creation). If you don't have a medical licence, you aren't permitted to have more than just your own (and your househo
There's a crap for that.... (Score:2)