Xpeng Unveils a Flying Car That Also Drives on Roads - Plus a Bionic Horse (cnbc.com) 65
"HT Aero, an affiliate of Chinese electric vehicle maker Xpeng Inc., launched a new flying car on Sunday that it says can also drive on roads," reports CNBC (in a story shared by Slashdot reader PolygamousRanchKid ):
The company says it plans for a rollout in 2024. The car is not commercially available right now. And HT Aero said the final design might change. HT Aero's vehicle will have a lightweight design and a rotor that folds away, the company said. That will allow the car to drive on roads and then fly once the rotors are expanded.
The vehicle will have a number of safety features including parachutes, the company said.
Elsewhere CNBC reports that Xpeng also launched a new charger for its electric cars. "The company says that with just five minutes of charging with the new charger, the car's battery will have a range of 200 kilometers [123 miles]." And Xpeng also makes an assisted-driving system, Bloomberg notes, and "will also partner with others to explore robo-taxi operations starting from the second half of next year."
And in addition, Bloomberg adds, the company also unveiled its prototype for a ridable robot horse, "equipped with bionic senses and multi-mode recognition technologies."
The vehicle will have a number of safety features including parachutes, the company said.
Elsewhere CNBC reports that Xpeng also launched a new charger for its electric cars. "The company says that with just five minutes of charging with the new charger, the car's battery will have a range of 200 kilometers [123 miles]." And Xpeng also makes an assisted-driving system, Bloomberg notes, and "will also partner with others to explore robo-taxi operations starting from the second half of next year."
And in addition, Bloomberg adds, the company also unveiled its prototype for a ridable robot horse, "equipped with bionic senses and multi-mode recognition technologies."
Don't all "flying cars"... (Score:2, Insightful)
...by default drive on roads, and as their primary use. Otherwise it's an aircraft.
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Flying cars have been around for over a century. The first one was designed by Glenn Curtis in 1917.
Some have even gone into production.
They will never be anything more than toys for rich people, because they have all the drawbacks of an airplane and all the drawbacks of a car, and all the expense of both, plus you need both a driver's and pilot's license (and the latter requires regular medical exams, and mental skills a lot of people can't muster).
Re: Don't all "flying cars"... (Score:2)
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Yes, that's how you would think it would be, but in the last few years some electric vertical takeoff vehicles (e-VTOLs) have been running around claiming they are flying cars when they can only do point-to-point air taxi no better (actually in many aspects worse) than a helicopter.
Worse, many blogs and "journalists" have been buying their expanded definition of flying "car" that cannot be driven on any road. Heck they can't even taxi on a runway.
References of fake "flying cars" that cannot be driven on roa
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The Lilium concept is the only thing I'm following because it could actually work (as an air-taxi, and that's what they're branding it). The other two - at best they're flying motorcycles.
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How is Lillium any better than a helicopter?
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Lilium has eensy weensy wings. Gliding to an engine out landing with those will be pretty much a controlled crash at best, even on a prepared runway. It's also going to have a whole lot of drag with all those motor nacelles. Lilium does indeed have some attractive engineering points, but it suffers from the same problem most evtol planes do: it's an unholy mashup of a suboptimal airplane with a suboptimal multirotor.
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No. It depends.
There are cars that fly, and aircraft that drive on roads, though the latter are often referred to as "roadable aircraft".
It depends if they start with a design that was for driving on roads and made it fly, or if they started with an aircraft design and made it drive on roads.
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Not all cars drive on roads. Cable cars and railroad cars don't
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unveils design and renderings for (Score:2)
HTH HAND OMG WTF BBQ
I think the X means (Score:2)
that either Peng has no balls....or won't admit it if he does.
Re: I think the X means (Score:1)
X is sorry for Xiao. I guess the actual tone dictates otherwise, but with one tone the word means "small".
robot horse that will save the raceing industry (Score:2)
robot horse that will save the racing industry
The heck with flying cars (Score:2)
I wanna start riding a robot horse to work! I wonder if I can get them to install a hitching post, though?
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What with BigDog being a real thing, I've thought about the idea of a robot you could ride for transport but it's really limiting in terms of carrying capacity, speed, safety, protection from the elements, and energy efficiency.
Anyway... a horse? I want a robot polar bear at least.
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hitching post laws may still be on the books in some citys
Re: The heck with flying cars (Score:2)
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You have to, because that's where you charge them for the return trip.
Darn, I should patent that.
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Diamond age. Read it, it's a fine romp.
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It really should be able to fly, too. Add some wings.
It's the price, silly (Score:1)
The main reason most people don't own "flying cars" (aka, airplanes) is that it's insanely expensive to own and maintain an airplane. I don't foresee that ever really changing, because the general public is never really going to be okay with flying jalopies falling from the sky every so often. Some things are just destined to always be expensive because they're resource and labor intensive to build and maintain, like housing.
That's also not even getting into all the red tape the FAA makes you go through b
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The main reason most people don't own "flying cars" (aka, airplanes) is that it's insanely expensive to own and maintain an airplane. I don't foresee that ever really changing, because the general public is never really going to be okay with flying jalopies falling from the sky every so often.
Perhaps. But I think the idea/fantasy (in general, not what we see in this particular case) is that someday they will be fully automated, and that the user will not be required to know how to pilot it or maintain it. There would be a maintenance schedule that occurs where it "drives/flies home" for service to your designated service station down the road. They will be networked as they operate, so that every vehicle is keenly aware of its surroundings and other vehicles, and AI and predictive algorithms wil
Re: This site sucks dicks (Score:2)
Robot horse ? (Score:3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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Naw, 30/30 [youtu.be].
Still waiting for the Flying Bionic Donkey (Score:2)
Unicorns are cool but Flying Donkeys are the masters of the universe.
Would be a plus if it could also dive 100 feet and hop on one of them Elon rockets into outer space.
Video (Score:2)
Here's a link to a video of the latest Xpeng flying car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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It seems too mechanically complicated, the foldable locking propeller blade in particular seems like an engineer's nightmare. Are there reliable and advanced enough materials and actuators to enable that sort of locking reliably without being weak?
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Locking foldable rotor blades seem to work quite fine on the Osprey and similar vehicles.
This morning’s crash of an MV-22 Osprey off the coast of Australia marks the latest in a decades-long string of serious mishaps [fortune.com]
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Whoop dee doo, what an amazing point. Nothing changed in the interim. Osprey is still a scary, unreliable Rube Goldberg contraption. Maintenance sucks, efficiency sucks, reliability still sucks, everything about Osprey sucks. Gigantic boondoogle. Stick with the helis.
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All helis are scary, unreliable contraptions. Go with multicopters.
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Well, mulitrotors are indeed simpler than helicopters, far fewer moving parts, much less to go wrong, much easier to build in system redundancy. Multrotors can operate out of tighter landing spaces than helicopters. But against that, Helicopters can autorotate if the engine fails, multirotors can't. Helicopters are more efficient than multirotors, which increases with scale. Helicopters have far greater range, speed and payload than multirotors. Helicopters aren't going away any time soon, but multirotors w
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A video of a computer animation that doesn't show any of the details.
Has anyone seen the actual car actually fly? Until we have a video of that, there's no news.
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Two (Score:2)
Wow... a whole two rotors. I'll definitely fly home using one if the other fails mid-flight. Take my money!
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It has a parachute.
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The parachute may not prevent severe injury or death if you happen to be over water, tall trees, electrical lines, slanted roofs, complex city topography, or even over a road where you'll fall into the middle traffic.
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Oh don't you know, the front tires fold out into ducted fans? Easy.
Lacking somewhat in the wing department (Score:2)
No wings, small rotors - any issue and that thing is a brick. I've just got to ask this too: if the thing is genuinely VTOL then how can you justify carting all the dead weight of road tires and miscellaneous compliance around on those tiny rotors and precious energy?
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It has a parachute man. Do you guys read articles?
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I bet it has lots of cup holders too.
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Nailed it, g'day mate.
Worst of both worlds. Pick any three: (Score:2)
Safe
Light
There's a fundamental issue that has made flying cars unviable so far.
Cars are designed for safety in crashes. They are heavy.
Aircraft are designed to be light and *exactly* as strong as they need to be. They are not designed to crash into each other.
Formula 1 race cars are designed to be light and safe. They are anything but cheap.
A car/aircraft would need to be all three.
It would be more expensive to maintain than a car, and probably even than an aircraft.
You would not (by law in the us a
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Re: Worst of both worlds. Pick any three: (Score:1)
... and you can stop ready after "so far".
Re:Worst of both worlds. Pick any FOUR (Score:2)
You forgot one more thing:
Small
In addition to Cheap, Safe, Light, it has to be Small - to fit easily on roads, fit in parking spaces and garages, etc.
Without being as small as an average car, the car/aircraft would also be nonviable.
They don't have a design (Score:2)
I looked at the CG rendering an immediately noticed a serious problem with their 2024 goal: they don't have a design. To make the contraption in the CG image, it would require the strongest and lightest materials we've ever made and it would likely still break apart after a few runs.
I'll be impressed if they ever make a functional prototype that looks remotely like what they propose. They don't have a design.
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This is starting to be a common thread for companies trying to one-up tech of any type. Hand a graphic designer a laundry list of wishes and tell them to go to town. Guaranteed no engineering was wasted on this CGI concept. Because any engineer worth a shit would have had a heart-attack at those tiny folding rotors attempting to lift an entire car.
I'm sure there's some rich suckers willing to toss money at them for the concept though. So they'll get what they're actually after in the end, and nobody wil
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In other words, a flying Theranos
It's not bionic without BIO! (Score:2)
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This is almost exactly what I was thinking...
It's my understanding that the word "bionic" is itself a portmanteau of biological and electronic.
Maybe it's me but... (Score:1)
I didn't think "unveiling" meant only posting a 3D drawing and a vague idea of how it "works". Looks more like the Chinese took an old idea and "invented" it. Again.
Besides, people were building flying cars in the late 70's. Mostly Pintos with slap-on wings if I remember correctly. So, color me unimpressed.