China's New Quantum Computer Has 1 Million Times the Power of Google's (interestingengineering.com) 143
Physicists in China claim they've constructed two quantum computers with performance speeds that outrival competitors in the U.S., debuting a superconducting machine, in addition to an even speedier one that uses light photons to obtain unprecedented results, according to a recent study published in the peer-reviewed journals Physical Review Letters and Science Bulletin. Interesting Engineering reports: The supercomputer, called Jiuzhang 2, can calculate in a single millisecond a task that the fastest conventional computer in the world would take a mind-numbing 30 trillion years to do. The breakthrough was revealed during an interview with the research team, which was broadcast on China's state-owned CCTV on Tuesday, which could make the news suspect. But with two peer-reviewed papers, it's important to take this seriously. Pan Jianwei, lead researcher of the studies, said that Zuchongzhi 2, which is a 66-qubit programmable superconducting quantum computer is an incredible 10 million times faster than Google's 55-qubit Sycamore, making China's new machine the fastest in the world, and the first to beat Google's in two years.
The Zuchongzhi 2 is an improved version of a previous machine, completed three months ago. The Jiuzhang 2, a different quantum computer that runs on light, has fewer applications but can run at blinding speeds of 100 sextillion times faster than the biggest conventional computers of today. In case you missed it, that's a one with 23 zeroes behind it. But while the features of these new machines hint at a computing revolution, they won't hit the marketplace anytime soon. As things stand, the two machines can only operate in pristine environments, and only for hyper-specific tasks. And even with special care, they still make lots of errors. "In the next step we hope to achieve quantum error correction with four to five years of hard work," said Professor Pan of the University of Science and Technology of China, in Hefei, which is in the southeastern province of Anhui.
The Zuchongzhi 2 is an improved version of a previous machine, completed three months ago. The Jiuzhang 2, a different quantum computer that runs on light, has fewer applications but can run at blinding speeds of 100 sextillion times faster than the biggest conventional computers of today. In case you missed it, that's a one with 23 zeroes behind it. But while the features of these new machines hint at a computing revolution, they won't hit the marketplace anytime soon. As things stand, the two machines can only operate in pristine environments, and only for hyper-specific tasks. And even with special care, they still make lots of errors. "In the next step we hope to achieve quantum error correction with four to five years of hard work," said Professor Pan of the University of Science and Technology of China, in Hefei, which is in the southeastern province of Anhui.
Hyperspecific tasks in a pristine environment (Score:3)
Hyperspecific tasks hint at how they prepare the quantum computer for the calculation. Pristine environment hints at all the effort they are making to keep the quantum computer stable enough to complete that task.
How long will it take before we have enough error correction stability that we can load a task on demand into a quantum computer and get a result before that error correction is overwhelmed? It already takes time today to load a stating state into a computer for most calculations, how is a quantum computer different?
Re:Hyperspecific tasks in a pristine environment (Score:4, Interesting)
It depends on what they want to do. If they want their fusion reactor to run in a stable fashion, they don't need to be able to load initial states on-the-fly, they only need to be able to upload cumulative data on-the-fly. A lot of it, very fast. If their quantum computer is up to that task, then they have a good chance of beating America and Europe to controlled fusion no matter what other limitations exist.
(It's one of the very few problems where you need this kind of performance and where the setup that is being controlled takes so long to change that the QC can easily be updated along with it.)
Re: Hyperspecific tasks in a pristine environment (Score:2)
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How do you come to the silly idea that you need a quantum computer to have "controlled fusion"?
The hard problem of fusion is: fusion.
Not calculating or gathering some data.
Re:Hyperspecific tasks in a pristine environment (Score:4, Interesting)
The hard problem in fusion is to avoid instabiities. For which you need horrific compute power. Fusion itself is easy, that's been handled for ages. Getting fusion to not cut out due to things like pinching is a major problem.
My source? The fusion researchers. I do this, umm, thing called READ. It comes highly recommended.
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And a Quantum computer (close to a fusion reactor, what a laugh) won't change that..
I doubt you need more processing power then a 1980 machine to control a magnetic field.
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I doubt you need more processing power then a 1980 machine to control a magnetic field.
You really are a nut, aren't you?
The magnetic fields in question are produced by some of
the most complex systems ever imagined.
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The magnetic fields in question are produced by some of
the most complex systems ever imagined
Nope.
They are simply static - as in: never changing - magnetic fields in a super conductor.
There is neither a computer required nor anything else to "manage them". You switch them on. And thats it.
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Except that modern supercomputers are known not to be powerful enough, which either means the 1980s were more astonishing than I recall, or you really don't understand how much data needs to be processed in how short a time, with the correct responses given to millions - if not billions - of different control devices.
Ok, how close are we? 101 seconds of sustained fusion has been achieved. 10 minutes will be achieved with the next generation of reactor.
https://nation.com.pk/29-May-2... [nation.com.pk]
https://www.euro-fusion [euro-fusion.org]
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recall, or you really don't understand how much data needs to be processed in how short a time, with the correct responses given to millions - if not billions - of different control devices.
A fusion reactor has not millions/billions of control devices for the magnetic field.
It has exactly *one* control device: the power on/off switch. The resulting magnetic field is static. It is always the same.
Error margin (Score:2)
I have a piece of paper that says "Xnqygiip3a". It's results are instant, though only for hyper-specific tasks. And even with special care, it still make lots of errors.
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That's your WiFi password.
The west needs to wake up (Score:2)
I often think that the west is experiencing more than "monetary recession". It seems across the board - infrastructure wise, energy wise, etc. Is it synchronous with the west being weighed
Re:The west needs to wake up (Score:5, Interesting)
Is it apathy, or is the west just simply not equipped to stay in the forefront of these types of technology developments?
Some parts in the west have no government with a foresight for the future that is putting money into research. Some parts in the west think if it is not private founded it is not good.
Some parts in the west think every government program put into education/research (aka into an university) is a fraud to make PhDs rich.
Actually one of those western governments destroyed the Japanese research programs and the famous "Miti"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Because they found it anticompetitive if a government agency is funding research. Which it actually did not really do: 50% of the money came from the companies doing the research/development. In the end the assholes behind it even orchestrated a Japan wide banking crash and now wikipedia claims it was a speculation bubble, rofldi rofldi.
Anyway: "the leaders of the west" do not believe in education, research and physics. Luckily the small countries in the west: do.
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We're far too busy spending money getting some guy to sing that he's a "GAINiac" and making sure people see it often enough to get a bit nauseated.
That and making up rationalizations for why a medication that costs 30 cents to make should cost more than the median salary can pay for.
Blazing fast, but ... (Score:2)
... can only be used for very specific tasks in a highly controlled setting, and will generally give you the wrong answer (though you cannot yet tell when it is wrong and when right).
Peer reviews are only as good as the data (Score:3, Insightful)
I doubt the reviewers had first hand usage of the machine so they have to believe what the chinese scientists are telling them and frankly with something this politically as well as technologically important I'd take the data with a large bucket of salt given how well known the chinese are for exaggeration when it suits them.
Re:Peer reviews are only as good as the data (Score:4, Insightful)
This is why we keep falling further and further behind. It's 5G all over again.
Didn't put in the R&D. When China figured it out, went into denial. Finally went whining to the government that waaah it's so unfair China got all the patents waaah.
Instead of going into the denial stage this should be a wake-up call and a chance to learn from their paper and work on replicating it ASAP. Otherwise in a few years companies will be whining to the government again that China has all the good quantum computing patents and they have to pay royalties.
5G. AI. Hypersonic weapons. How many times does this have to happen?
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Quantum computing is very useful for certain classes of tasks that normal computers can only find the optimal, or close to optimal, answer to by brute force. Cracking encryption, planning routes, that kind of thing.
People said Huawei's numbers were bogus, and now they are the foundation of 5G and widely deployed in the West.
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People said Huawei's numbers were bogus, and now they are the foundation of 5G and widely deployed in the West.
I don't know of anyone who said Huawei's numbers were bogus. However, I do know of other 5G implementations from Ericsson, Nokia and Samsung. Huawei's equipment was simply cheaper. It's greed all the way down.
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Huawei wasn't just cheaper, they got there first and own a lot of the patents. Patents have to licenced, either in exchange for other patent licences or for cash.
That's why some Western companies got so upset. Not only were they beaten to market by years, but when they got there they had to pay Huawei for the privilege.
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That's why some Western companies got so upset. Not only were they beaten to market by years, but when they got there they had to pay Huawei for the privilege.
I'd be upset too. China loves to violate others' patents, but then they get all pissy when someone else uses theirs.
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Huawei pays for the patents it uses. It has to, otherwise its gear would get stopped at customs.
Maybe other companies in China do, but then you are blaming Huawei for the actions of others.
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Maybe other companies in China do, but then you are blaming Huawei for the actions of others.
Huawei is very much an apparatus of the Chinese government, and received tens of billions of dollars in state support [techcrunch.com], so yeah! That's how it works! Huawei is NOT an independent entity, and should NOT be treated as such. If China wants them treated as independent, then China can let them be independent.
Now, you might hold corporations in other nations to the same standard, and that's fine with me, and only fair. But this is absolutely how Huawei and China must be judged.
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Yeah yeah, like US companies are an apparatus of the US State, receiving tens of billions of dollars in state support.
Anyway, so what if Huawei is an apparatus of the state? Your choice is either divide the world up into countries that will impound your products for violating Huawei's patents and those which won't, or pay them. You probably wouldn't get the EU on your side, for example.
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Yeah yeah, like US companies are an apparatus of the US State, receiving tens of billions of dollars in state support.
Sure, some of them are, like fossil fuel companies, or AT&T... And they are evil and must be destroyed, so I'm not sure that's the point you were trying to make.
Anyway, so what if Huawei is an apparatus of the state?
If the state were Norway or something, no big deal. Since the state is China, it's a big deal.
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China has courts.
And there are plenty of cases where western patents where enforced in Chinese courts.
You actually should know that.
The problem with patents, especially the western form is: the owners only go for the small fishes and try to bankrupt them. Obviously, something arsine like that does not work in a sound society.
However if a company like Ericsson would sue Huawei and had a real case: they would win. Like in just every other nation.
No idea why you suddenly seem to have joined the idiotic "China
Quantum computing skepticism (Score:2)
"So the number of continuous parameters describing the state of such a useful quantum computer at any given moment must be... about 10^300... Could we ever learn to control the more than 10^300 continuously variable parameters defining the quantum state of such a system? My answer is simple. No, never."
- Physicist Mikhail Dyakonov
The Case Against Quantum Computing [ieee.org]
Re:Peer reviews are only as good as the data (Score:4, Interesting)
Are you talking about the investigation into the Wuhan laboratory's safety?
Possibly, but I'd go with the fact that the majority of bogus scientific papers come out of China, and also that a greater percentage of China's scientific papers turn out to be bogus than any other nation's. They are scientifically known to be some of the biggest liars (as a nation, mind you; I am not discussing individuals nor reasons for these facts in this comment) about science.
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This is my shocked face.
It's a piece of propaganda, nothing more.
"fastest" is a nice adjective for the masses, and it's even valuable for the purpose of furthering research - and that's a good thing.
But headlines that boost the CCP have little practical value.
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How practical? (Score:2)
From the article.
"And even with special care, they still make lots of errors. "In the next step we hope to achieve quantum error correction with four to five years of hard work," said Professor Pan of the University of Science and Technology of China, in Hefei, which is in the southeastern province of Anhui."
So how do the two compare for computing accurate results? With the "lots of errors" does the quantum computer even produce practical results? How good of a prediction is getting good error correction
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If you want to see what it is like trying to get a reliable computation among noise errors, just look at the Slashdot 'Firehose > All' page. It is pretty useless just like that.
Well if it is a billion (I think the article used a larger number but...) times faster than normal computations and we run the problem a million times, maybe we could get a wisdom of the crowd like filter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Though I have my doubts.
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Not a bad question, but
The machine could still have a bias problem; even 1 biased qubit could skew the results.
Different Q machines have different configurations etc., but they need to maintain things like temperature and coherence?
No joke: maybe a conventional computer can check the results?
Agreed I think (?) wisdom of the crowd assumes the bias of crowds is low enough to produce accurate results. Given how connected the world is with TV and internet these days, I question if even a large group of humans are sufficiently unbiased, much less a machine that can be biased by environmental conditions.
Nope (Score:2)
As no "Quantum Computer" exists at this time (all that exist are clever fakes and analog computers miss-classified as "Quantum Computers"), the speed of all these is exactly the same: zero.
Deep Thought (Score:3)
Would they ask it the ultimate question about life, the universe and everything?
What would they be asking it?
LoB
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Does the world really want to see China in control of Deep Thought?
I personally would be more worried of the possibility to see China in control of all our encrypted communications.
After Winnie the Pooh ate Grandma (Score:2)
Winnie was lying in Grandma's bed looking at Little Red Riding Hood saying, "All the better to see you with, my dear."
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Winnie the Pooh [cbsnews.com]
The usual MO (Score:2)
"China's New Quantum Computer Has 1 Million Times the Power of Google's".
Means nothing. They obviously stole the technology from Google.
Oh wait...
questions (Score:2)
A civil war field cannon can drive nails many times faster than a common nail gun. They won't be well driven, they may not be driven where you want them, and it takes a while to set up, but there it is, 10-20 pounds of nails driven in just a second.
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I don't know a great deal about Civil War cannons, but I have touched one and I have seen it loaded and fired (it was likely a replica).
Quantum computing skepticism (Score:2)
"So the number of continuous parameters describing the state of such a useful quantum computer at any given moment must be... about 10^300... Could we ever learn to control the more than 10^300 continuously variable parameters defining the quantum state of such a system? My answer is simple. No, never."
- Physicist Mikhail Dyakonov
The Case Against Quantum Computing [ieee.org]
Re:cool... (Score:5, Insightful)
a single millisecond a task that the fastest conventional computer in the world would take a mind-numbing 30 trillion years to do
needs to have appended "on a carefully-constructed artificial problem that solves no practical problem but is designed to work really well on a quantum computer and really badly on a non-quantum one". This isn't a Chinese thing, it's the standard way of claiming "quantum supremacy", a bit like always quoting Qplasma rather than Qtotal when talking about fusion reactor designs.
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My car can make it into town in five minutes if I redline it - compared to 15 minutes at safe speeds.
But that's not useful, is it?
Fuck the CCP and Xinniie the Pooh.
It computes more and more (Score:2)
about less and less until it computes everything about nothing.
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It's even worse than that. The line about "they still make lots of errors" hints at the real problem. They compare analog computers producing approximate answers with unknown errors to digital computers performing exact computations. If an approximate answer is ok, there are conventional algorithms to do it many orders of magnitude faster. And with those algorithms, you know what approximations you're making, how accurate they're likely to be, and when they're likely to be good or bad approximations. W
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There's virtually no other problem, at the moment, that needs this much compute power. Their machines in the Top 500 supercomputer list are more than capable of traditional supercomputer tasks.
Whether you're modeling nuclear reactions or global weather or even a mere plumbing part, higher resolution is always desirable. And then there's stuff like cracking crypto.
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They'll need a lot more than 66 qbits to crack crypto.
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What's really funny is that I said nothing of the sort. You seem confused.
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Re: I applaud Communism (Score:5, Insightful)
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And besides of that, Fascism and Totalitarianism are not a binary and mutually exclusive thing, they can very well coincide.
Part of Fascism is about utilizing the military to protect and expand your national economy. Look at the current development between China and Taiwan and the parallels to Fascism become more apparent.
But at the end of the day this is just arguing about semantics.
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Part of Fascism is about utilizing the military to protect and expand your national economy.
Nope.
It is about exploiting a group of people inside of your own society.
And it is about: "the winner makes the rules".
No one is blaming you if you get more status and more power in a fascist system, even if you used unlawful or immoral means.
Re: I applaud Communism (Score:5, Informative)
Under Mussolini it always had a very strong national economic component to it, where the goal was to create a self sufficient national economy (autarkie) removing obstacles with (military) force. There was no slavery component to it. Originally it also had no Racist component to it. As far as historic records go Mussolini for example hoped that Italian Jewish people would be on his side, because it was their nation as well.
The general idea suited Hitler's ambitions well. It perfectly aligned with the entire "Lebensraum im Osten" stick, which had been going on for some longer time. Hitler also liked the dictator thing. So he readily adopted it.
Later Italy also adopted Racist policies, which is mainly attributed to their relationship with Nazi Germany.
Fascism is still based around the idea of a Nation. There is some overlap between Nationalism and Racism, like both do believe in some concept of a 'in-group', where everyone in the 'out-group' is an enemy. However concepts of how one may join the 'in-group' can differ vastly.
Definitions of Nationalism range from some of the most mildest forms like Civic Nationalism, where everyone is expected to follow the same laws; over things like Linguistic Nationalism, where everyone is expected to speak the same language(s); Cultural Nationalism, where everyone is expected to participate in the same cultural practices; to the other extreme end of the spectrum Ethnic Nationalism, where everyone is expected to be born into the 'correct' ethnicity, so essentially Racism.
Nazis employed the latter, very narrow, definition of Nation. It was a requirement to be born into one of the 'accepted' races, but it wasn't sufficient. Even if you were tall, healthy, blond, and had piercing blue eyes they would have put you into a concentration camp if you were in the political opposition, like a Communist, Socialist, Pacifist or whatever else didn't suit them (a lot of that was going on in the concentration camp Dachau for example).
I certainly agree that Fascism doesn't care much about morality. If they see you as an enemy of the state they'll do whatever they want.
But the thing with legality is that the very concept flies out of the window as Fascists tend to change any Law as they see fit.
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Fascism is much older than your examples.
The oldest I recall is ancient Greek's Sparta.
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I'm not sure what you want to debate there.
China's government is oppressive towards any opposition from within, like they're oppressive towards opinions that disagree with them. They're also quite intolerant of criticism from without, where your foreign product or service simply won't be allowed in their market if you are in any way c
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but not so much the Fascists in Italy, which is where the term was coined.
The term is actually old latin. It describes the bearers of axes carried in front of a tribune when he walked the city. The axes and handles where wrapped with tree branches. Originally a display of "peace" but "we are armed".
Strange how the term changed its meaning to the opposite. But that happens often in languages.
They do exploit a group of people (ethnically and religiously diverging from the predominantly Han Chinese) from with
Re: I applaud Communism (Score:3)
Fascism is first and foremost about having a strong national identity, in addition to being highly communalist (as opposed to individualist) and having a strong central leadership.
China has all of this and more. In fact, they even take it beyond Mussolini fascism by applying an ethnic element as well, giving it closer resemblance to Hitler's fascism, though not entirely there.
Re: I applaud Communism (Score:5, Insightful)
I applaud (insert placeholder here) (Score:2)
The problem with these labels is that they're not diametrically opposed. The majority of socialist systems are also capitalist systems, so it is entirely possible that you can have a communist-capitalist hybrid, although that certainly isn't an existence proof, let alone a proof that China is such a hybrid.
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There's not much in the US that's communist. I'd consider it more a tyranny-oligarchy hybrid.
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We call it a hybrid between moneyaristocraty and cleptocraty.
"tyranny-oligarchy hybrid" is close enough though.
Re:I applaud (insert placeholder here) (Score:5, Insightful)
it is entirely possible that you can have a communist-capitalist hybrid
No, it is literally impossible, because you literally cannot have communism while you have currency and a class system, and you literally cannot have capitalism without currency and it tends to sustain or even create a class system since capital makes it easier to achieve profit.
You can have a communist-socialist hybrid, you can have a socialist-capitalist hybrid, but you can't have a communist-capitalist hybrid. You can only claim to have communism while actually engaging in fascism, which is what China's doing.
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cannot have communism while you have currency and a class system, and you literally cannot have capitalism without currency and it tends to sustain or even create a class system
I think the Scandinavian countries would disagree.
The main difference between american capitalism and hypothetical communism is: your money is worthless to achieve anything beyond daily needs.
In American capitalism you can use money to get more money. In communism you can't - the only way to get more is to work more than the other
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I think the Scandinavian countries would disagree.
They'd certainly disagree with anyone who calls them communist.
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Most certainly :D
But Americans tend to call "their system" communist.
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Most certainly :D
But Americans tend to call "their system" communist.
Americans who aren't very well-informed, sure.
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I think the Scandinavian countries would disagree.
Which one do you think is communist?
In American capitalism you can use money to get more money. In communism you can't - the only way to get more is to work more than the other guy.
Way to misunderstand communism. The whole point of it is that you don't have more than the other guy.
Is that really your account which is posting this nonsense today?
It's not nonsense simply because you willfully don't understand it.
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Way to misunderstand communism. The whole point of it is that you don't have more than the other guy.
That's incorrect. According Marx in part 1 [marxists.org] of his "Critique of the Gotha Program", in the first phase of a communist society, still marked by its former bourgeois origins, "the individual producer receives back from society – after the deductions have been made – exactly what he gives to it. What he has given to it is his individual quantum of labor. For example, the social working day consists of the sum of the individual hours of work; the individual labor time of the individual producer is th
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Way to misunderstand communism. The whole point of it is that you don't have more than the other guy.
No it is not. That is a stupid american interpretation.
Communism works just like capitalism: without letting people become super rich and super influential and putting other people into poverty.
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Communism can't have money. LOL that's a good one.
https://www.marxists.org/archi... [marxists.org]
https://www.marxists.org/archi... [marxists.org]
HTH HAND
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Regardless of what a theory states, humans will use currency. eg Family members trading favors (an intangible currency).
> In such conditions, money will no longer be re quired.
He was wrong here, but it's not a proof anyway. That doesn't change the theory nor does it invalidate the theory of Communism.
To pretend a particular endemic behavior won't exist is a flaw in the theory.
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You literally cannot have a communist-capitalist hybrid. The end state of communism is a stateless classless society. You can't have an owner class (capitalists) under communism. You can have a capitalist society with some socialist elements, like worker-owned co-ops, syndicalist communes, or some state-owned industries such as railroads, healthcare, utilities, etc.
China's ruling party is nominally communist, and they might be working to achieve communism, but the fact that the party and Chinese governme
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More accurate to say, communism is not socialism, it is fascism in wolves clothing.
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Socialism and Fascism are on opposite sides. Communism isn't socialism. It is fascism pretending to be socialism.
Chinese Dream (Score:2)
China is prospering with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Re: I applaud Communism (Score:5, Insightful)
Re: I applaud %s (Score:4, Interesting)
From the Hitchhiker's Guide.... sorry, Wikipedia. Was confusing apocryphal sources there for a minute:
Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy states that in any bureaucratic organization there will be two kinds of people:
First, there will be those who are devoted to the goals of the organization. Examples are dedicated classroom teachers in an educational bureaucracy, many of the engineers and launch technicians and scientists at NASA, even some agricultural scientists and advisors in the former Soviet Union collective farming administration.
Secondly, there will be those dedicated to the organization itself. Examples are many of the administrators in the education system, many professors of education, many teachers union officials, much of the NASA headquarters staff, etc.
The Iron Law states that in every case the second group will gain and keep control of the organization. It will write the rules, and control promotions within the organization.
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This seems to exclude the Uighurs for example.
And why would that exclude them?
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"The Chinese don't really believe in Communism!" They really do.
The question is whether they're actually trying to achieve that. China has become more and more capitalist over the last few decades. Sure, from a Marxist point of view one can always argue that this is so because Communism arises from Socialism, which in turn arises from Capitalism, so that you need these to each reach its pinnacle to then transition to the next phase. But one thing is to say this and then nominally start the process, another is to actually move towards transitioning. For instance, what pr
Re: I applaud Communism (Score:3)
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They are People, Governments and Companies out there to WIN.
Then they are People, Governments and Companies out there to be better.
In the field of Music, they have Music Competitions, Where a Musician will compete against others and win cash. However very few of these competitive musicians ever make it into the big orchestra's or get any overall general fame outside the competition game. The reason is they learned to play the hard stuff, faster music, difficult fingering methods... However the pro's that
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however even by his senior year he didn't actually know any of the fundamentals.
That is actually a common problem in education.
Happens in Germany as well, especially general matura (your highschool degree) and university.
There are simply a lot of people that are good and guessing what will be in the next test/exam. Are good in preparing for tests. And then even get good grades. But: know nothing about the topic. I met 100ds of them.
And from the school point of view you mostly can not do anything. Would prob
Re: I applaud Communism (Score:2)
so what.
What is important is getting 120 f p s in call of duty modern warfare on a 4 k screen.
If this computer can not do it.
this new computer is useless
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If they're not looking at the firehose, you think they're looking at this?
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Protip: Instead of going to the Firehose All button, click the Firehose Popular tab. It's a world of difference.
If it still bugs you, go to All and render those spamming bastards to binspam hell, or develop a whiskey tasting hobby... whatever suits ya.
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-I guess slashdot's captcha bill went unpaid.
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I already have a whiskey tasting hobby, what now?
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Add vodka, gin and rum. The tequila and mezcal. Then scotch.
Then put them all together for the mother of all long island ice teas. In a big gulp cup.
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I already have a whiskey tasting hobby, what now?
If you mix your hobby with any angst you have at the condition of the Firehose submission situation, you'll almost certainly begin to realize that it's just a little thing; and ultimately, that you have far more important things to spend your worry capital on.
Re:China's growth (Score:4, Insightful)
This must be a 20 year old comment. No?
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Few say that EVERYTHING IN China is fake or cheap. Most say that everything FROM China is fake or cheap. Some are not particularly worried about China because we expect it to collapse from within. Some of us also expect the same from our own nations, which may or may not be beside the point.
However, China as we know it could well go through death throes which are beyond inconvenient for other nations[' peoples], especially their neighbors.
Or it could just double down on fascism and keep on truckin' in its o
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they created a virus capable of exporting communism
Did they?
Never heard nonsense like this before.