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Heavy Rains and Storms in Egypt's Aswan Unleash Scorpions in People's Homes (aljazeera.com) 71

Heavy rain and flooding in Aswan, Egypt, have driven drifts of scorpions to seek shelter in people's homes. From a report: Three people died and more than 400 were hospitalised across the governorate to receive anti-venom treatment after being stung by the panicking arachnids, according to state-run media. However, acting Health Minister Khalid Abdel-Ghafar said in a statement that no deaths were reported from the stings. The Ministry of Health has reassured the public that it holds a large enough stock of anti-venom, noting that 3,350 doses were available in Aswan. The downpours and subsequent floods have also forced local authorities to suspend schools on Sunday, Governor Ashraf Attia said.
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Heavy Rains and Storms in Egypt's Aswan Unleash Scorpions in People's Homes

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  • Why ... (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 15, 2021 @10:29AM (#61990127)
    Why can't stuff like this happen in some place that deserves it, like London banking district or the New York stock exchange?
    • Re: (Score:1, Flamebait)

      by Gavino ( 560149 )
      Why does Slashdot even post this? "News for nerds; stuff that matters". I couldn't care less about some Arabs getting bit on the dong by a bunch of ill-tempered insects.
      • Re:Why ... (Score:5, Funny)

        by DesScorp ( 410532 ) on Monday November 15, 2021 @10:51AM (#61990199) Journal

        Why does Slashdot even post this? "News for nerds; stuff that matters". I couldn't care less about some Arabs getting bit on the dong by a bunch of ill-tempered insects.

        They're Arachnids, you insensitive clod!

        • Well, I actually learned something there. Worth the price of admission?

          No. It was just an accidental side effect of AC FP abuse. As an attempt to be funny, it wasn't. But of course AC has no motivation for a constructive or thoughtful or even a humorous contribution. But there is some mysterious and overpowering motivation for vacuous Subjects? (Empty Subjects are not limited to AC, by the way, but I think it's related to the FP thing.)

          But the 8-legged arachnid thing explains a lot about the story. Many des

          • But the 8-legged arachnid thing explains a lot about the story. Many desert species have evolved for years of patient waiting until their bug comes in.

            Deserts are irrelevant to the properties of chelicerates - the group that includes spiders and scorpions (and mites, eurypterids and a whole rag bag of other arthropods including the chasmataspidids which a friend of mine did his PhD on). The group (and their characteristic fusion of head segments leading to their differing mouth parts from other arthropods s

            • by shanen ( 462549 )

              I think the desert aspect was relevant to this story because how the people were apparently surprised when the scorpions showed up. It's not like they weren't there the whole time. Lots of desert species evolve to move (or grow) fast and take advantage of a rare rainstorm.

              And I knew I was too optimistic to hope for a Funny point for the "ship come in" joke.

        • Oh thank you for responding, my pedant klaxon alarm was going off full blast!

      • a bunch of ill-tempered insects.

        Scorpions are predatory arachnids of the order Scorpiones, not insects. The pincers count as legs.

      • Probably so some other nerd will tell you they are arachnids, not insects.
      • Why does Slashdot even post this? "News for nerds; stuff that matters"

        Because climate change means droughts in every place where this would be a bad thing, and catastrophic floods in places where that would be a bad thing.

      • No one forces you to read it, or even to comment on it.
        And, FYI: the Egyptians are not Arabs.

    • Why can't stuff like this happen in some place that deserves it, like London banking district or the New York stock exchange?

      See here [wikipedia.org] for explanation.

    • Re:Why ... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by DesScorp ( 410532 ) on Monday November 15, 2021 @10:54AM (#61990207) Journal

      Why can't stuff like this happen in some place that deserves it, like London banking district or the New York stock exchange?

      Egyptians used to consider flooding a good thing. The annual Nile floods were called "the Gift of the Nile", and the rich agricultural lands it created on the banks made Egypt the breadbasket of the region. Then came modernization and the Aswan High Dam. Whenever man gets used to controlling nature for a bit, he's always freaked out when nature resists on occasion.

      • I don't think anyone noticed, you know, with evolution reintroducing itself to humanity over the last two years with a nice fast-evolving RNA virus and all.

        • ...evolution reintroducing itself to humanity over the last two years with a nice fast-evolving RNA virus and all.

          Man made RNA virus evolution....?

          • Even if that conspiracy theory is correct (and there's no real evidence that it is), RNA viruses, due to the structural instability of RNA itself, evolve very quickly and have unstable genomes, so however a virus enters a human population (and you are aware that this has been going on with viruses and most, if not all species since life first formed), it will evolve. The general trend will be towards higher transmission rates but lower virulence, because viruses survive best when they don't kill the host, b

            • Re:Why ... (Score:4, Insightful)

              by TechyImmigrant ( 175943 ) on Monday November 15, 2021 @12:41PM (#61990599) Homepage Journal

              I think a lot of hard-of-thinking people confuse "made in a lab" (which is barely plausible given the RNA sequences of covid) with "caught by a person working on viruses in a lab" (which is a plausible scenario among several).

              • Or just don't care and go whole-hog with "Chinese-produced biological attack weaponised virus."

                (That's a direct quote from US Representative Clay Higgins.)

                • And a lab worker was accidentally infected. The evidence is now overwhelming given that we know they were funded to do exactly that type of research.

                  Coronaviruses do not actually evolve that fast, not like flu. And one of the odd things was that is virus did not evolve much in the first months of its infection.

                  But specifically, for anyone that is actually interested in knowing,

                  1. The bat coronavirus outbreak occurred in Wuhan, home to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), the world

            • It's why influenza is so successful, but E. bola is not

              Escherichia bola: A bacterial species worn as a tie by very small Arizonans.

            • Case A:
              The general trend will be towards higher transmission rates but lower virulence, because viruses survive best when they don't kill the host, but maximize transmission. It's why influenza is so successful,

              Over some billions of years perhaps.

              Case B:
              but E. bola is not, because E. bola is so fucking deadly that it basically kills almost everyone it infects and burns itself off.
              You get it completely wrong.

              Obviously Ebola is a nice counterexample to your silly /. theory that a "virus always gets more trans

      • Yeah, but no one likes scorpions.

      • > Then came modernization and the Aswan High Dam.

        And with it came the requirement to use fertilizer, which wasn't necessary when the Nile deposited fertile mud on its banks every year...
        And increased coastal erosion in the Mediterranean coastline, and the Nile delta, because the mud gets stuck at the dam.
        And some say fisheries are now missing nutrients because the dam keeps them.

        > Whenever man gets used to controlling nature for a bit
        He then gets surprised by long term consequences...

        • "We chose to control nature, but then the natural processes and feedback loops that change over time accommodated our changes over time!"
          "I know, how could we have predicted this? That's so unfair! Who was responsible for this!"
          "Hold on ... it was ... someone who was in office shorter than the time constant of those natural adjustments."
          "Ok .... Now it all makes sense. I don't know why I was thinking it would work any other way."
        • by ghoul ( 157158 )
          Man is a part of nature so its all nature
      • ...made Egypt the breadbasket of the region.

        And that region included the entire Mediterranean Basin. In the last century of the Roman Republic Egypt supplied Rome with enough grain to feed it for three months out of each year, and in Greece, it was cheaper to buy Egyptian grain than locally grown even after you factored in transportation costs.
      • The normal flooding of the river is in spring: due to melting snow in the mountains.
        It fertilizes the fields etc. p.p.

        This flood is due to rain, and is destroying the harvest

        Can't be so hard to distinguish one kind of flood from another one.

    • I thought those got overrun by bulls and bears? Egypt is more famous for its scorpions and catfishes.
    • by PPH ( 736903 )

      Professional courtesy.

    • Because the scorpions at the stock exchange were already inside and safe from the rain.

    • Scorpions only live in the desert.

  • The 11th plague arrived kind of late.

  • Massachusetts got a crap ton of rain last July. First my driveway and the street was crawling with ants. Then my house too.

    I recommend pesticide. And lots of it.

  • by backslashdot ( 95548 ) on Monday November 15, 2021 @11:07AM (#61990251)

    Maybe King Scorpion, as in Selk, not The Rock, has been awokened?

  • I've been stung by scorpions so many times that I've lost count. Not once have I ever heard of an anti-venom for them. You deal with it the same way you deal with a bee sting: just put up with it until it's over. Also, like bee stings, nobody actually dies from a scorpion sting unless they're allergic to it and don't have any epinephrine.

    Yeah, it's more painful than a bee sting, and the tip of your tongue might get a little numb, but if you live in an area that scorpions are native to, you just deal with it

    • If you've never heard of an anti-venom or of a death from a scorpion sting [wikipedia.org] you might want to do a little research. World wide there are over 3,000 deaths per year.
    • The hell are you doing to get stung on the tip of your tongue?
      • by hawk ( 1151 )

        there was a foolish craze a couple of years ago with a drink containing a live scorpion.

        I think you swallowed it whole with the drink, or something similarly stupid.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Professional nitwit ArmoredDragon blathered:

      I've been stung by scorpions so many times that I've lost count. Not once have I ever heard of an anti-venom for them. You deal with it the same way you deal with a bee sting: just put up with it until it's over. Also, like bee stings, nobody actually dies from a scorpion sting unless they're allergic to it and don't have any epinephrine.

      Yeah, it's more painful than a bee sting, and the tip of your tongue might get a little numb, but if you live in an area that scorpions are native to, you just deal with it.

      You speak as if there were only one species of scorpion in the world.

      When we lived in Mariposa County, we encountered brown scorpions all the time. You barely notice their sting. If you live in Arizona, you might well run into a yellow "Deathstalker" scorpion - and it's a whole other story. The Deathstalker's venom is so potent that it will kill a small child or dog. And it is by no means the most poisonous scorpion in the world.

      The most dangerous scorpion species

      • ...in a most mocking willful ignorance.

        Mind you, it's a product of the same "visionary" whose dream of pan-Arabism triumpant led directly to the Six Day War [wikipedia.org] of 1967, which cost Egypt the Sinai Peninsula ...

        You mean when Israel started the 1967 war with a sneak attack on Egypt, clown shoes. Every last conflict has been started by racist colonialists from Europe who think they have a greater right to the land than the people who have already been living there for centuries or longer. With one

    • by jbengt ( 874751 )
      You should know that there are over 2,500 different scorpion species, and a least 25 of those species can kill people with their venom. So your anecdotes do not describe universal truths.
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  • by fabioalcor ( 1663783 ) on Monday November 15, 2021 @05:58PM (#61991627)
    Chickens. And when the scorpions are gone, you don't even need to use their natural enemy against them, because, well, they're us. If you don't like chickens you can use frogs instead, but if you want to eat them or not afterwards it's a matter of taste.
  • Egypt. Plague of scorpions. I can't be the only person who thought of this.

  • If the Egyptians had not been such dicks about Ethiopia's dam this would not be happening. The silt and flood waters would have been captured upstream
  • Ok I have made cracks in the past about people needing to have a live scorpion dropped down their pants, but I didn't think God was going to take it to heart!

    Also, I can think of a few places off hand that are far more deserving of this than Egypt.

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