Those Cute Cats Online? They Help Spread Misinformation (yahoo.com) 171
"Videos and GIFs of cute animals — usually cats — have gone viral online for almost as long as the internet has been around..." writes the New York Times.
"Now, it is becoming increasingly clear how widely the old-school internet trick is being used by people and organizations peddling false information online, misinformation researchers say." The posts with the animals do not directly spread false information. But they can draw a huge audience that can be redirected to a publication or site spreading false information about election fraud, unproven coronavirus cures and other baseless conspiracy theories entirely unrelated to the videos. Sometimes, following a feed of cute animals on Facebook unknowingly signs users up as subscribers to misleading posts from the same publisher. Melissa Ryan, chief executive of Card Strategies, a consulting firm that researches disinformation, said this kind of "engagement bait" helped misinformation actors generate clicks on their pages, which can make them more prominent in users' feeds in the future. That prominence can drive a broader audience to content with inaccurate or misleading information, she said.
"The strategy works because the platforms continue to reward engagement over everything else," Ms. Ryan said, "even when that engagement comes from" publications that also publish false or misleading content.
"Now, it is becoming increasingly clear how widely the old-school internet trick is being used by people and organizations peddling false information online, misinformation researchers say." The posts with the animals do not directly spread false information. But they can draw a huge audience that can be redirected to a publication or site spreading false information about election fraud, unproven coronavirus cures and other baseless conspiracy theories entirely unrelated to the videos. Sometimes, following a feed of cute animals on Facebook unknowingly signs users up as subscribers to misleading posts from the same publisher. Melissa Ryan, chief executive of Card Strategies, a consulting firm that researches disinformation, said this kind of "engagement bait" helped misinformation actors generate clicks on their pages, which can make them more prominent in users' feeds in the future. That prominence can drive a broader audience to content with inaccurate or misleading information, she said.
"The strategy works because the platforms continue to reward engagement over everything else," Ms. Ryan said, "even when that engagement comes from" publications that also publish false or misleading content.
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Places like modern Baltic nations suggest that survivors often beat winners in writing of history.
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almost lead to the overthrowing of democracy in one of the most powerful nations in the world.
No. That never happened. There was absolutely no time during the Jan 6th riot that the dude in the buffalo helmet was going to become the next leader of America.
Saying that the Jan 6th riot almost overthrew democracy in America is a good example of a "big lie" from the left.
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It lead to a thankfully incompetent _attempt_. If you remember, they did not seek to place the buffalo-headed man in charge. They sought to overturn the election results in favor of their candidate, the orange-muskrat helmeted man who was already President.
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They sought to overturn the election results in favor of their candidate
There was absolutely no mechanism for them to do that. Do you really think that if they had broken down the last door and grabbed Mike Pence, the American people would have said "Well, golly, Trump is going to be our president for another four years"?
There was precisely zero percent chance of that happening.
It was just a right-wing mob that got out of control. It was no different than the left-wing mobs that got out of control in Minneapolis, Seattle, and Kenosha.
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> There was absolutely no mechanism for them to do that
There was no legal means. Violently invading the Senate and forcing a recount under armed guard is startlingly similar to what Russia, under Putin's buidance, did to the Ukraine in 2014. The Wikipedia article seems well documented and quite alarming: a violent invasion of their legislative bodies led to secluded vote under armed guard, with no head count and apparently without even enough members to provide a quorum, to turn a large region of the Ukraine over to Russian control
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Being a "right wing mob that got out of control" does not alleviate them from responsibility for their acts, anymore than being a "left wing mob that got out of control" alleviates BLM protesters from responsibility for arson and looting committed as part of their protests.
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Let's assume for a moment that everything you said is true. That legislative body is completely overrun, and they held a vote to "turn something to control of a foreign nation". Let's even assume that it's something that legislative has power to do, and not just some utterly pants on the head level of retarded hypothetical of "we vote to turn something we have no sovereign control over to someone else who we have no sovereign control over" that you brought up.
Which bureaucratic US organisation would recognize such vote as valid? Name the actual traitors. I'll wait.
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In 1988 I swore an oath to defend the constitution. That oath never expires. You would have seen an enormous call to arms.
Yes, but if members of the Congress and senate are tortured into saying that defending the "insurrection" is defending the constitution, the call to arms would be for a different cause.
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I didn't say anything about the "government". I am not sure why you bring it in.
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the American people would have said
Hey everyone in Myanmar, ShanghaiBill has the answer for you! Simply tell the dictator you don't want him anymore!
The thing about your position is that it's even dumber than the position of the person you're replying to. I'm sure 74 million American people would happily have accepted Trump, which is precisely what leads to political unrest in a nation.
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If the military had taken over congress then I would agree, however a few nutjobs would then have the most powerful military in the world to deal with, it was never going to end in the government being overthrown.
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Saying that the Jan 6th riot almost overthrew democracy in America is a good example of a "big lie" from the left.
Yeah, I'm sure the chants of 'hang Mike Pence' if he doesn't overturn the election for Trump were all in good fun. It was an attempt by the right, an incompetent attempt, but one to overthrow democracy none the less.
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Had everything gone their way the government still would not have been overthrown.
I guess "their way" was to overthrow the government. So your statement seems contradictory in that light.
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It was an attempt by the right, an incompetent attempt, but one to overthrow democracy none the less.
The key word is "incompetent", so it was not even close to actually overthrowing the democracy. It was close to getting some politicians killed yes and it was not good.
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insurrection incited be the president doesn't matter if everyone involved is sufficiently incompetent.
You apologists are setting the stage with an incredibly dangerous precedent. It really matters when the president attacks the core of democracy because they're far more likely to succeed than anyone else. I like how you downplay it by focusing on the horned guy, rather than who matters in an attempt to smear the entire premise.
We see what you are doing and are not fooled. You however appear to bee fooled v
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As you point out, their plan was a stupid one, but I'm sure they've learned from that failure and will succeed the next time they decide they don't like the result of an election.
They can keep trying since there is no punishment if they fail, and they only need to succeed once.
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Nobody could actually verify the laptop story and the only source to publish it was a tabloid owned by Fox. If there was any truth then why wasn’t Fox News running it? We’re how many years into laptop-gate and not a peep about the case.
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He immediately attempted to buy a gun illegally upon his father being elected to the presidency, and the sekrit squirrels tried covering for his ass.
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Nobody could confirm it? Nonsense. Tony Bobulinsky, a former business partner of Hunter Biden got on national television and confirmed that the emails recovered from the laptop and addressed to him were accurate, and that Hunter was holding 10% of the payoff for the "Big Guy", and that this was a reference to then-candidate, now President Joe Biden.
There was no one disputing the authenticity of the laptop, even at the time. Not even Hunter Biden himself disputed it. The problem was it was the timing was too
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Those of us who read/follow the Internet in Eastern Europe/Russia have known this for years. It is a standard practice for most "influence" operations like Ukrainian CIPSO, British 77th Brigade, etc as well as their Russian counterparts to run humour, cats, etc channels which "remove their false plumage" in the run-up to a large event like elections, etc.
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https://youtu.be/lBFg5lIsAZQ [youtu.be]
The dogs didn't have muzzles on, the people had muzzles on! ... maybe some kind of a zombie thing...
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I am Big Billy... [youtube.com]
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So, understanding I didn't click your link, what are two differences between your link, and my link?
I'll give you one for free: I'm a regular poster who has never posted a troll link. What else is different?
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50% of the population has below average intelligence.
65% of Americans think they have above average intelligence.
That is a lot of stupid people who think that are smart.
Stupid people who think they are smart are very confident in their beliefs.
Stupid people will often latch onto the most confident person.
So the stupid leads the stupid often very confidently in a stupid ideology.
Misinformation is often touted much more confidently than truthful information, because the truth is actually more nuanced and not 100%, so it cannot be explained so confidently without oversimplifing it to make people jump to the wrong conclusion.
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If you define stupid as below average intelligence and smart as above average intelligence, I would surmise you are in the former group because you have completely ignored mediocrity in your definition.
Otherwise, I pretty much agree with your main points.
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50% of the population has below average intelligence.
That is a misleading statistic. While technically true in that if you take the median then 50% of people will be below it, in fact that's not generally what "below average" means - it refers to the arithmetic mean.
On top of that, IQ is a bell curve and subject to a certain amount of measurement error, and small variations don't have any meaningful effect and often vanish when an individual takes multiple tests. So in fact most people are so close to average intelligence that any minor deviations are irrelev
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You need math training. If there are two people with IQs of 90 and 110, the average IQ is 100 and 50% of the population has below average intelligence.
I have a guess as to where you might fall on this spectrum...
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Credulity and IQ aren't hard-linked.
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wish i had mod points; but this exactly.
it's at best a bandaid, at worst a crutch.
either way, it solves nothing and continues eroding personal responsibility.
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Social media is actually a perfect place to learn critical thinking skills.
Appeal to authority, appeal to popularity, and appeal to ridicule are easy to spot if your mind is looking for them.
The hardest is spotting such fallacies when someone posts something you agree with.
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If you block people on FB, you're probably a fucking loser with no real-life friends, and you derive the minimal satisfaction you need to keep you from killing yourself from the number of people with enough pity to friend you.
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Cuecats? They were great! (Score:3, Funny)
Free bar code scanners - what's not to like?
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may Radio Shack RIP.
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Yes, Same, intersting isnt it.
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You know that the inventor of the Cuecat, J. Hutton Pulitzer, went on to develop bamboo fiber detection technology for the Arizona audit? So, in a way that seems to relate back to the actual topic.
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You know that the inventor of the Cuecat, J. Hutton Pulitzer, went on to develop bamboo fiber detection technology for the Arizona audit? So, in a way that seems to relate back to the actual topic.
Lol, that sounded so bizarre that I thought you made it up.
His wiki page is a wild ride of bullshit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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Taking us back to the old days of Slashdot. Thank you.
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Remember catscans.org? (I think). People would gently load their felines into their scanners, hit the scan button, and upload their startled expressions. The original site went down over 20 years ago, but everything old is new again:
https://thecatscan.tumblr.com/ [tumblr.com]
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Oh, it's all true. It starts out with Garfield... (Score:3)
It just starts out with Garfield, a charmingly misanthropic cat that hates Mondays and, improbably, loves lasagna. And I thought, "you know, I hate Mondays too! And there's nothing wrong with a good lasagna!"
It went from there to Al Qaida and becoming a fervent follower of Brother Trump the Christ, so quickly, let me tell you. In heaven, I will be greeted by 70 pussies to grab. All the cats! Yes.
It is as foretold. We shall all become crazy cat ladies. And men. And individuals of infinite non-binary gender. All you have to do is believe that President Garfield died for your sins. You must believe on him. Never believe "in" him, that would be ridiculous. Believe ON him. /miao
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"become crazy cat ladies."
You are joking, but all of this public obsession with cats is creepy, and it leads me to believe we are creating a generation of animal hoarders.
Yes, it's so cute to the firefighters and code enforcement who has don full body hazmat suits and air breathing tanks to enter a house filled with feces and urine that makes the air deadly to breathe. And see cats with dirty and matted fur muching on the maggot covered dead bodies of other cats as they make their way throug
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"ankle high trash"
ment "knee high trash"
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How low can they go? (Score:2)
Now they are taking a page from the sex offenders playbook.
The ones who come up to a kid and promise free candy, puppies, and other desireable items.
Want people to listen to you? (Score:2)
Remove snob "know it alls" from your movement.
You're being obliterated by charismatic people, even if they're wrong.
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Then again, so can letterpress, mimeograph, Xerox machine, oil panting and watercolor, and people who are speaking.
Seriously, if you have to say that cute cat videos are spreading disinformation, and you buy that BS, and need to do something about it, we need to just shut all forms of communications down.
I'd expect an article like that to come from Paranoia Today, not the NYT. Next up, an article on Oxygen is poisonous - how breathing will kil
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I see lots of "only a genius can solve this (ridiculously simple) puzzle" - obviously gaming the algorithms.
I also see lots of attempts at harvesting personal data. Some are more blatant ("what was your first pet's name?") than others. If I don't ignore them outright I poison them with nonsense data. No, my first pet's name wasn't "potato". :-)
...laura
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You fight skewed information with facts not BS conspiracy theories and fake data.
When did they stop silencing the opposition? I must have missed that memo.
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Well, that's just it. They don't like the way facts are balanced. That's the balance they want; where facts and bullshit weigh the same.
And fake data seems a reasonable way to create that balance. It appears to be working, if you look around.
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Sure but I've watched CNN, MSNBC and Fox before. None of them cover anything other than politics well. All of them cover scientific topics terribly. That's why people laugh at the idea of misinformation coming just from social media. If you think they covered COVID well, then you need to do some reading. Both sides were wrong about masks: a) they protect others, not you b) they don't really do any good outside and c) their actually impact isn't perfect (or even good) but is better than nothing.
I agree that all the mainstream news covers science topics badly, but your comment is false.
Covid-19 was a novel strain to the world, and did not behave like sars-cov-2 or other known variants so scientists had to use the scientific method to learn as the pandemic unfolded. The worst misinformation I’ve seen was just misleading when Fauchi said N-95 masks likely won’t help you prevent getting covid so stop buying them and let medical professionals have them when there was a shortage at the beginning. They don’t work without proper fitting, something every medical professional goes through before being assigned a specific mask and the CDC was afraid of panic hoarding costing medical workers a safe environment. To this day medical workers still use fitted N-95 masks because they do reduce the risk of contracting the virus as well as the spread. So (a) is false. Yes, if you have a cloth over your face with the sides open it cuts down on large droplets which can get in people’s mouth or eyes (which is why for some things medical professionals wear face masks) and obviously don’t protect the wearer because nothing is being filtered as air flows around the cloth. (B) is false, it spreads through large and very small aerosolized droplets which are like smoke - if you can smell that cigarette or vape outside then you are huffing their covid and can get sick. Masks work outside when people are close enough you are breathing in their used air, obviously this is worse indoors where if enough people are smoking you can’t even see properly and the stink won’t come off your clothes which is why indoors with poor ventilation is far worse. (C) has always been true and I’ve never seen it reported otherwise. Qualifier words like “help” keep you safe are used.
The real lying about covid is from sources like Fox News that have strict vaccine/testing mandates for any employment and then have idiots like Tucker get on and say that less invasive vaccine/testing mandates by the government are like Nazi Germany and he wouldn’t submit to them and no one should.
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"Covid-19 was a novel strain to the world, and did not behave like sars-cov-2"
COVID-19 is the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2. I don't know what you're trying to say, but you don't seem very well informed about this topic.
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I mistyped 2->1 it does not behave like the last one at all, it’s transmission rate is far higher, and its contagious while being asymptomatic being the most important differences.
The fact that COVID-19 doesn't spread outside is the most important difference and by far the most novel difference. Get your COVID news from virologists, they aren't as pretty as news anchors but at least you wont spread misinformation that way.
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Fighting Skewed Information with Facts (Score:2)
You fight skewed information with facts not BS conspiracy theories and fake data.
Unfortunately, studies have shown that doesn't work. People may actually dig in more firmly to their beliefs when presented with facts that oppose them. Have a look at this article on Belief Perseverance [wikipedia.org], or this article on Why Facts Don't Change Our Minds [newyorker.com].
There are some facts there. See if they change your mind.
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You fight skewed information with facts
No you don't. The problem is facts are boring. Here's an idea, pretend you're ignorant:
Party A: "We don't know what will happen. We presume it will be worse!"
Party B: "We'll get our country back. We will divert 350million pounds into the health system thanks to all the savings we have. We will have a free trade agreement on our terms. We will not be party to someone else's laws. We will prosper globally, our economy will skyrocket!"
Party B sounds like a winner to me. If Part A only says "Nah Party B is wron
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>Yes but that expects them to act and think their age and be emotionally mature enough
Expect? Help the less fortunate understand the landscape.
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Yes, I like videos of cute baby animals. Mostly larger African animals like rhinos, hippos, and giraffes. I've been fed lots of those on Facebook and that was fine. Until last week when the video was very different. it depicted a baby giraffe born only hours before. It was being stalked by a pride of lions. The mother giraffe was trying to protect her infant but the lions managed to separate them. So this is a very effective emotional driver for someone like me who takes joy in the frolicking of infant creatures. Things did not end well for the baby giraffe. The very next video offered was a man and his young daughter being harassed by street thugs. Ends with him using a shotgun to blow away everyone in sight. It was no coincidence that the emotional trigger was the same in the two videos. Parent trying to protect a threatened child. I was being led in the direction of violence as a tool to secure safety. I don't think I overlooked this in previous video offerings. This seems to be something new and the appearance of the story on Slashdot reinforces my suspicion.
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You think anyone who agrees with this gets mod points any more?
Really?
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Appreciate that people are fairly intelligent *spray-laugh*
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Should've been Incredibly Naive Coward.
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>Appreciate that people are fairly intelligent, and instead of limiting what information they have access to provide them with alternative data. The truth will win out in the end.
The truth will win out ? What of the analogy/notion that poison can be dressed up to taste good.
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Appreciate that people are fairly intelligent, and instead of limiting what information they have access to provide them with alternative data.
The problem on the internet is not that people cannot access relevant information it is that they choose not to access that information. There is enough misinformation available that may align with someone's own beliefs that, when presented with a list to choose from, they pick whatever matches their own thinking no matter how out of whack with reality that may be.
A good education can combat this by teaching facts and basic information and encouraging students to form their own reasoned conclusions and to seek out information - from both sides - to help form that opinion. Sadly though, today's education seems to have devolved into lazily teaching conclusions. Someone who "knows" the right answer but has no clue as to why it is right because it is a learned instead of a reasoned opinion is easy fodder for the internet trolls out there.
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Dafuq? Did you just say Xi Jinping practice Fulong Gong and spreads anti-China misinformation? Dude, can you ship me some of that dope?
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Someone didn't RTFA.
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I read the quote. Yahoo News is blocked in China.
The quote says Fulton Gong who are anti-China... if that's sponsored by Xi Jinping that's the stupidest shit I have heard in a long time.
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Censorship isn't fascism, it's authoritarianism. They're not the same.
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Where "they" includes every news organization in America, including Fox, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, and a host of others.
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This is around the time Al Jazeera became popular in America. It was like the only legit U.S. news source for coverage of the war.