Is Windows 11 Less Popular Than Windows XP? (pcmag.com) 133
"A new survey claims Windows 11 adoption is so low it's actually less popular than the 20-year-old Windows XP," reports PC Magazine:
The survey comes from an IT management provider called Lansweeper. Through its own software products, the company scanned 10 million Windows devices this month to determine which OS they were using. The results found that only 1.44% of the devices had Windows 11 installed, which is lower than the 1.71% for Windows XP. In contrast, Windows 10 maintains a dominant share at 80.34%. Although Windows 11's adoption is low at 1.44%, the number actually went up almost three times from 0.52% back in January.
It's also important to note that other surveys have found much higher Windows 11 adoption numbers. Last month, the app advertising platform AdDuplex found Windows 11 usage was at 19.4%, although this represented a mere 0.1% growth from the previous month. Meanwhile, the Steam hardware survey from Valve estimates Windows 11 usage has reached 16.8%.
It's also important to note that other surveys have found much higher Windows 11 adoption numbers. Last month, the app advertising platform AdDuplex found Windows 11 usage was at 19.4%, although this represented a mere 0.1% growth from the previous month. Meanwhile, the Steam hardware survey from Valve estimates Windows 11 usage has reached 16.8%.
survy says (Score:5, Insightful)
Re: survy says (Score:5, Interesting)
I agree.
And then I'd say that number of installations don't reflect popularity. I'd prefer Win7 with 2k UI, after that the UI went on a LSD trip.
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Re:survy says (Score:5, Insightful)
this is already happening. i took over a site from a previous outfit that let every user run as admin and discovered in the site survey that about half the machines were already running 11. of course none of the users even knew wtf Windows 11 was. if you're running as an admin, at some point following your login but before you get to your desktop Win10 will do that fake OOBE thing where previously they tried to get you to turn on all the telemetry again, only this time it's a prompt to upgrade to Win 11 with a big friendly button to do so in the lower right, and a small low-contrast text link to decline in the lower left. Users don't know what any of this is, they only know they're in a hurry to get to work, so they just click on the whatever, and bam, next thing you know half the damn site is running Win 11 without have any fucking clue what happened.
ofc i lay the blame for this 50/50 on Microsoft for the dark pattern, and on the previous IT staff for letting everyone be admins, but having someone to blame doesn't make my job any easier.
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and find it's been replaced with a shiny fresh new copy of Windows 11
No I will not. I disabled the the TPM implementation in my computer. I will be greeted with a BSOD as will millions of others.
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We all know that Win11 will run without TPM enabled and on not-really-old "old" processors, so I would not be so confident in your chosen tactic if I was you. Microsoft only has to decide they want Win11 on your hardware more than they want the OS to have TPM. We accepted this scenario when we relinquished control. We got this and every other way Big Company screws us when we decided the data harvesting, free business model was acceptable over paying a non zero price. I long for the end of this and a re
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dont try and force prople into new hardware in a era of hardware shortages.
Nah, just corrupt and manipulate the market and cheat billions out of billions, this isn't business, this is corruption, and the greedy, selfish irresponsible upper class is going to hell for thier crimes, just saying. All the people at the top of the economy have sold thier souls to the devil. Easier for a camel to get throught the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get throught the gates of heaven. Undeserved money is the ultimate drug and these overly affluent people are addicts and hoarders. The
When MS is becoming worst than Apple (Score:5, Insightful)
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Usage statistics measured to decimal places are presented and range from 1.44% to 19.4%, which we are supposed to believe the truth lies somewhere in that ridiculous range.
The only thing these surveys did was the same thing most other modern surveys do.
Try and sell you an answer.
Maybe one day humans will realize marketing statistics about as valued as internet ads, but since the fleecing is going this well, I doubt it.
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The really ridiculous part is that it doesn't have to be this way. Retail sales of Windows are insignificant. Microsoft makes all of their Windows money from (a) OEMs installing Windows on the computers they sell, and, (b) volume licensing for businesses and schools. Neither of those groups give half a fuck about whatever new useless "features" Microsoft has added to Windows. If anything, they hate
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Try and apply phone walled garden apps to desktop, fail.
Try non-walled app store in desktop, fail.
Spy on everything you do to categorize you for advertising, then run flashy ads in desktop "panes", fail.
Selling off your categorization to general Internet advertising, jury still out.
Reporting its spying to various governments, jury still out.
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The new hardware requirement is really the main obstacle for Windows 11. I am looking after 5 laptops, and only the crappy one (a basic dell for lockdown) supports Windows 11. Windows 11 itself is not bad, although it is annoying that it is slightly slower than Windows 10.
Buying a new laptop for Windows 11 is just not on, especially if you want a decent laptop (hi-pdi screen, decent RAM, discrete graphics etc).
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The new hardware requirement is really the main obstacle for Windows 11.
As it should be.
The operating system is called that because it is what operates the hardware. New drivers can help adapt the system to variations in hardware, but new interfaces require a new subsystem.
Microsoft tried the modular subsystems for a while, and it backfired terribly. DirectX was probably their most visible attempt at it,, but for a while there were a ton of variations and you never knew what would be installed on a system. Developers had a crap shoot between DX3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 8.0a, 8.1, 9, 9b
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Don't have hardware AND software that needs or benefits from 11? Then it isn't for you.
It makes me wonder what's for people who use Windows applications and want security updates to continue past October 2025.
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Hey! Stop laughing. I know, I know. Yet another "Year of the Linux desktop" post. But, hear me out.
Proton / Corossover / Wine has come a long way. With Valve pouring so many resources into the Steam Deck, and the underlying Proton, they may have finally solved the chicken and the egg problem with Linux adoption. Especially for gaming. The one major problem that Linux had to widespread adoption for so many people. Having t
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That's my situation. Even if I wanted to move from Windows 10 to 11, I can't - my CPU isn't supported. (By definition, "unsupported" Windows 11 workaround installs don't have any kind of support (for whatever that's worth)).
Unless the Windows 11 requirements become less stringent, I'll hang onto my PC until Windows 10 goes unsupported, then look at the Mac Studio.
"Popular" (Score:5, Insightful)
People don't run Windows XP because it's "popular". They run it because they need to, old hardware, limited drivers, computer not a daily driver so people don't give a shit. Popular is the wrong word.
People largely don't give a shit about what OS they run.
It's like asking are "Teslas less popular than Mack Trucks?" simply because there's less of them out there.
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Exactly. The only OSes people actually voluntarily upgraded were the shitty ones. Windows 7 was a huge hit because Vista was such a turd, but beyond that I think Slashdot these days is overrun with young people who don't remember that people mostly didn't buy OSes, they bought computers. The change in OS came with the new computer, nothing more.
I gave it a try (Score:5, Interesting)
My Windows 10 Thinkpad (I have it just for things my Mac can't run, like an occasional game etc) was offering to upgrade risk-free to Win 11 every time I booted it, so I thought why not and gave it a go. 2 serious issues later in the few sessions I tried it on, and I had to go back to Win 10: Twice after exiting a game (Civilization VI) Windows were in a state where the taskbar was not clickable (open windows were), and no system combination keys would work (including ctrl+alt+del) - only way out was holding power key. Second, my mouse (which goes through a KVM) would not be recognized after waking up from sleep.
However, I have to say the downgrade process itself was quite good!
I still keep a Windows XP VM with my very old outlook express emails that I've never bothered to migrate. So, technically, I currently have an XP installation when I don't have a WIn 11 one ;)
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Ingrate (Score:2)
why you ungrateful wretch.
Due to their heroic efforts, even when the machine was faced with these hardships, you didn't get a Blue Screen of Death.
But are you grateful for that?
No, you just complain and leave that part out.
some people are just *never* satisfied. :)
hawk
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Had to fix a relatives computer with 11 on it. I found it rather nice for noobs. But if you started with mouse less windows 3.x there's just so much incompatibility. Make the ui different but keep the controls backwards compatible as much as possible and it's win win. Noobs can use the new swiping and I can use tab and the context menu.
I'm having the same fight with Android 11 now.
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you got lucky. if you'd dithered more than ten days you wouldn't have been able to roll-back to Win 10. you would have had to nuke and repave it. MS removed the ability to roll back to W10 after ten days.
And? (Score:2)
I have a few boxes running Windows 7, one running XP, and one running 10 strictly because of the mistaken impression that it would become a rolling release.
The change? I have a few boxes running linux now as well (and overall, it has been with minimal hiccups)..
Now, moreso than ever, linux is "good enough" to daily with 11 being the headache inducing choice.
And there is enough of a backlog of older windows software to fill in the gaps.
Grandma (Score:5, Funny)
Not only that, but you also persuaded Grandma to switch over to Linux, and she and all of the other women at her church who cook meals for funeral and memorial service receptions rave about how they wish they had switched much sooner?
The only minor problem is that now the church ladies are divided into factions who like Ubuntu and the others who prefer Debian, and the pastor has to deal with the situation that they aren't speaking with each other right now.
The Task bar is stupid (Score:2)
People spent years getting used to thw eorkable task bar, out of the way in the bottom left corner, Moving it was foolish and cost Windows 11 a lot of business and educational sales.
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People spent years getting used to thw eorkable task bar, out of the way in the bottom left corner, Moving it was foolish and cost Windows 11 a lot of business and educational sales.
There is so much stupid with the new task bar and Windows menu. The task bar being unmoveable is dumb; not that I care but it's been a windows feature since forever. Having all the icons group in the center of the bar, rather than the LH side, is dumb beyond comprehension. The reason there is an Apple menus in the top-right of the screen is so you an slam the mouse in that general direction and know you'll land on the most important menu in a macOS system. The Windows button being in the bottom-left was
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Yeah, seems like Microsoft just can't keep a hold of the special value of the "infinite size" corner buttons - there's been a few releases over the years when they would snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - I recall at least one release where the start button was in the corner - but had a one-pixel border around it so that you couldn't actually click it when your cursor was all the way in the corner. Madness!
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Registry hacks are hardly "moving it as you wish" - and are very prone to simply stopping working after a later update.
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You are relying on a end-user actually knowing what they are doing and that they can trust this random command someone is asking them to run. It is only moderately safer than launching sexy_ladies.png.exe in terms of how easily a malicious actor can cause problems. Tech savvy users to know what a sexy_ladies.png.exe file is actually is whereas those same users are extremely likely to trust a fixes_your_shit.r
Listen, I'm getting old... (Score:5, Insightful)
Used to be I enjoyed fiddling with new options on new gadgets (I am including windows versions in that category).
These days, I only get annoyed when I need to tweak or completely overhaul my workflows...
Might be because I'm getting older, have much more overall responsibilities as a father or perhaps I just have to deal with too many GUIs all with software developers thinking they need to reinvent the wheel.
I'm just... overtaxed. I mean I have Thunderbird at for my personal, self-hosted email... of course that has a web GUI in the form of Roundcube. Then there,s my GMAIL account and for work I need to use Outlook. On Android I have AquaMail. If you count the online version of Outlook, that's SIX more or less unique interfaces for email alone.
Then there's Teams, Zoom, Webex, Teamviewer, Signal, Threema, Whatsapp for collaboration both professional and private. Another 7 interfaces, all with their own ideas on how to get things done.
That's 13 UIs and I have not earned a single buck or paid a single bill.
I am a cloud engineer. Storage, SAN, Virtualization (several eco systems). Datacenter access, installations, management updates... The amount of UIs is enormous.
I just... I can't anymore.
Re: Listen, I'm getting old... (Score:3, Interesting)
This is one of the main reasons company IT departments aggressively try to minimise the amount of different software packages for the same task.
You forgot Skype, Slack and Discord for meetings though :)
Last week I had a session where we had to start on Teams. Didn't work for me. We then went to Skype. Didn't work for someone else. We ended up in a webbased meeting environment we use for social gatherings...
Yeah, it's getting pretty insane sometimes. But for me it's fairly natural. However, loads of people d
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It's not just the abstraction, it's the search. Many times I know exactly what I want t do, except that in the new version (Windows, Office, Linux, whatever) it's hidden in some place different than in older version. Or it's mostly the same, except it does not work (this one's mostly Linux.the configuration file is there, but it is no longer read or it resets after a reboot, because I now need to change some other file or install packages to restore the functionality).
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I agree with you, mostly, but I've seen the advantages of the ribbon for non-technical people and it really helped them. So the ribbon was probably a good deal for a lot of people and not so great for the more advanced power users. Still, I can work with that. But I agree that a lot of times the GUIs change for no good or apparent reason.
Re:Listen, I'm getting old... (Score:5, Insightful)
I have noticed a trend of making UIs more 'user friendly', which basically means:
- Bigger Icons
- Less Text
-- Which combine to you having to learn new icons every couple of months/years
- No Logical Grouping
- Removal of all 'advanced' stuff from anywhere useful, making it incredibly hard to do either troubleshooting or maintenance.
And for me, worst of all, trying to shoehorn fucking phone and tablet sized UIs onto desktops.
You have PLENTY of development resources to make BOTH. Stop pissing off desktop users...
I could list far far more things, but it just makes me angry..
Re: Listen, I'm getting old... (Score:2)
White space.
Everywhere.
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The "simplification" of UIs is a problem because although it may make learning the UIs easier for novices it makes them harder to use for PROs. Another problem is that it's a one UI for everyone approach...and that sucks. Many tools have versions for begginners and others for PROs. Modern applications? Just one for everyone.
Also agree that the best solution would be to have two completely
This used to be a solved problem (Score:3, Insightful)
This is exactly why you standardise on (an open, well-documented) protocol, not software: Everybody can pick their own client, and it'll work Just Fine with whatever server you choose to use. Point your favourite client at the various email servers' IMAP access and off you go. Roundcube is no different than thunderbird in this respect.
This is also why X separates the server that provides windows, from the window manager that provides the decoration. You can pick your own, with its own decoration and its ow
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Re: Listen, I'm getting old... (Score:3)
This. I'm more on the software development side. I used to *love* anything technical. Sometime in my late 40's, seeing the 16 millionth language change-for-the-sake-of-change, I just stopped enjoying it.
On the GUI front, I just had an update to my browser. The GUI now works differently. Why? It worked fine before, the new funvtionality isn't better, only different. GUI designers need to just stop. No, you don't need to change things that aren't broken.
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This need to be reposted everywhere on the internet. Stop changing UIs
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Missing option (Score:1)
I use Windows 2000 you insensitive clod!
The last OS Microsoft produced that actually improved on previous versions.
It doesn't matter (Score:5, Insightful)
win10 shipped in 2015 and is now the dominant windows version, 7 years on.
If it takes win11 another 5 years, I doubt microsoft will care.
They continue to aggressively pursue the OEM route, which will eventually result in win11 being dominant, even in large corporates who are typically careful and slow to upgrade.
This is how a "just about good enough" operating system became dominant.
There does seem to be a pattern to windows releases, every other release, is a dud.
Microsoft seem incapable of subtlety, continuously meddling and throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
For a while, they were on a reasonable run - win2k, winXP and win7 - but there was still a dud in-between - vista.
And what a dud that was.
Then for whatever reason - drugs? - Microsoft decided they could take on the mobile and the desktop market with a single operating system.
Take two very different paradigms and try and munge them together.
That resulted in probably the worst windows release of all time - win8.
They skipped win9, because, you know, 10 is cooler, right?
With win10, they managed to undo some of the damage, but arguably, they could've just continued to incrementally improve win7 - and that's what they should've done.
Along comes win11 and microsoft are at it again - meddling, change the user flow, because I guess, the engineers working on windows have nothing better to do with their time.
Say what you want about macOS, but at least it is consistent - you may hate it, but at least you may consistently hate it.
Apple didn't try and munge together an operating system that works on desktop and mobile. They knew it was a fools errand.
They also iterate very slowly between updates, focussing on new features - and sure, focussing on new ways to make money.
However, the top menu bar has been part of macOS since 1984.
The dock has remained largely unchanged since 2001.
Why? Because Apple understand that to mess with user workflow is a bad idea.
Microsoft clearly never got that memo - and I'll maintain, it is _only_ those OEM partnerships that keep the OS dominant.
Re:It doesn't matter (Score:4, Informative)
Vista is only even really a problem on systems with little RAM, today. So it wasn't unredeemable, though it was a huge miss.
Sure, OSX hasn't changed much, but that's a huge flaw. The top menu bar is stupid. It just means having to go further to get menus. And the dock is fucked, it was better on NeXTStep. You have to edit plists to get it to behave like it used to, which is the way it should behave. So stupid.
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Vista is only even really a problem on systems with little RAM, today. So it wasn't unredeemable, though it was a huge miss.
Sure, OSX hasn't changed much, but that's a huge flaw. The top menu bar is stupid. It just means having to go further to get menus. And the dock is fucked, it was better on NeXTStep. You have to edit plists to get it to behave like it used to, which is the way it should behave. So stupid.
There's nothing stupid about either of these aspects you whinge about.
The top menu, there since 1984 - hell, if you want to argue against 38 years of UI/UX research, be my guest.
It's about the best there is - a contextual menu that is _always_ in the same place. You _always_ know _every_ app will use that paradigm - or should do!
It's out of the way - and has familiar options for _any_ application.
The dock? - probably the most copied aspect of macOS - the simplicity is the key here.
As a user _you_ choose wha
Top menu from 342p to 2880p (Score:2)
The top menu, there since 1984
Top menu was fine when the monochrome Mac's display was 342 pixels tall. It's a bit less tenable on a 2880p display with eight times as many vertical pixels. The user has to move the mouse pointer all the way from the active window, possibly at the bottom of the screen, up to the top to acquire a menu, and then back down to the working area.
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It should have been abandoned when they went to OSX. I get why it survived though Classic, but NeXTStep did it the "Right" way and they could have made a clean break then. I assume that they felt it was part of their personality, but if so, it's a shitty part.
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Is adjusting the tracking speed not the solution there?
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For a while, they were on a reasonable run - win2k, winXP and win7 - but there was still a dud in-between - vista.
XP was especially notable, as in that run nearly everyone agreed there was improvement between the prior and next release, which peaked at XP.
Vista was a dud for many reasons, but even Win 7 isn't universally considered to continue the improvement trend.
Or perhaps the better way to word it, looking at certain individual components, large groups of people considered those components to be far worse, negating anything if not everything else.
The activation system for example was first introduced in XP and widely despised, but from a technology standpoint was such a joke that it was easily overlooked.
It was at the equivalent of the old shareware "Check this box if you have paid" level.
The next version in Vista, which tends to be attributed to Win 7 due to the skipping of vista, which made the feature a measurable point against the OS.
Win 7 also brought basic telemetry (maybe that was vista... see, even I'm guilty of mis-attribution!)
Driver and code signing enforcement. Massive API changes and forced deprecation.
So yea 7 wasn't universally better, some things were, others not. This trend has only gotten worse.
It's why XP is still the point of comparison to this day
I'll go along with that.
For me, the pinnacle of achievement for Microsoft, in terms of a workstation for code, graphics etc. was win2k - pretty much windows NT.
I recall fondly the stability of this release, after win95/98 - I wisely skipped winME - it appeared on the scene not long after Quake 3 was released - and yep, at work, we were quake addicts. (as were so many) - we ended up with an OS that was competent at pretty much anything you could throw at it.
WinXP was an improvement on that, no doubt.
This was
TPM chip required is a big no-no (Score:5, Insightful)
If it was a simple "click here to upgrade to Windows 11 effortlessly, painlessly and at no cost, and all your stuff will continue working as before", I would probably do it. Though maybe not, because in any major upgrade there is always the possibility that something goes wrong. Plus I think I read something recently on /. about Win 11 removing the possibility to move the task bar to the side of the screen ... a "minor thing" that I would consider a major PITA.
But ... when you have a perfectly good 8-year-old PC which was a decent gaming PC at the time with a GTX 1070 (which is actually a decent graphics card even today due to the last years' cryptocurrency fueled high end graphics card draught) which still runs everything I need quite smoothly, and "upgrading" to Windows 11 means more or less replacing the entire thing, then ... couldn't care less. I will "happily" stay with my Windows 10 (happy only in the sense that the only reason it runs Windows is because I need that for various games and apps) until it reaches end-of-life. And at that point I will most likely install some Linux desktop alternative.
Windows 11? Meh. Doesn't do anything for me.
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Re: TPM chip required is a big no-no (Score:2)
I've had TPM chips for more than a decade, my last 3 systems all had one and nowadays they even come with the CPU. It's nice to be have hardware support for encrypted drives. And yes, the drives had it too but we all know how that worked out.
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It's not enough to have TPM, you have to have latest-generation microsoft-approved TPM. Most users will therefore need a MB/CPU/RAM upgrade (they all go together, as you can't get a socket-compatible chip that suits) before they can run 11. This is what's going to slow adoption. Almost no one is going to upgrade. They will get Windows 11 with a new PC, which because Windows is such shit they will need in a couple of years.
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To every rule, there is an exception.
What about this one?
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Toronto Airport (Score:3)
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A few years ago, I saw Windows XP still used in offices.
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DOS 5/6: Many large CNC mills used in manufacturing still use DOS
Win2k / XP / Embedded: Too many machines to list here...
Lets just say, that when it comes to the machines that make the stuff that you or I use, a "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." mentality is very much alive and well...
Why should I? (Score:3)
Taskbar? (Score:3)
Have they now fixed the taskbar or is it still not possible to put on side like on my Mac, Linux machines and the window 10 machine?
I mean, I seldom run out of space sideways to display a thing, but often would want to see more lines of a document or such and the popping up taskbars are really annoying..
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You still can't get rid of the top bar on mac no matter what you do. That was a terrible UI decision, and it's still with the mac users. And I was a mac user for many years mind, I'm quite familiar with it. I've used pretty much everything that's ever been in common use, and the fixed top bar is dumb because it is completely insensible to waste any vertical screen real estate on a wide screen, and every Macintosh ever has always had a wide screen... and now they're even wider. The only time it hasn't been o
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You still can't get rid of the top bar on mac no matter what you do.
This is false.
and every Macintosh ever has always had a wide screen...
This is false.
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You still can't get rid of the top bar on mac no matter what you do.
This is false.
You can make it auto hide, but you can't get it out of your life. You will still need to use it. It's not false.
every Macintosh ever has always had a wide screen...
This is false.
Okay, you're right, that is slightly false. Apple made one portrait display for a moment. Radius made a pivot display for a few years. Every other screen on every Macintosh has always been wider than it has been tall, as opposed to square, or taller than it is wide. As such it has never made sense to have a top menu bar wasting precious vertical real estate, nor for the dock to be at the bottom of
Understandable (Score:2)
Laptop (Score:2)
I have a laptop that is just one year out of warranty with a Ryzen 2200 that can not install Win 11 which is fucking ridiculous.
Capable (Score:3)
None of my machines meets the "minimum requirements" despite have 12 cores and 32Gb or RAM, etc.
What a pleasant surprise (Score:2)
Windows 11 isn't bad, it's just ... (Score:2)
Hassle (Score:2)
11 will completely obsolete the nice core i7 I built in a big tower with all the accessories I like built into the case, like dual optical drives and multi-form factor flash card reader and so forth because it uses an ASUS Mobo that isn't upgradeable to the hardware spec. So, I've transferred over to a gaming machine as my main home setup with external peripherals like a lone Blu-Ray writer and multi-form-factor flash card reader, am not much using the homebuilt, and when it's Win 10 is no longer supporte
Went Back to W10 After 36 Hours (Score:2)
A whole lot of complaining about joy (Score:2)
The one and only reason that 11 is small is because 10 is already superb. How quick should anyone be at replacing something that's already working so very well for them.
Like anything, it needn't be perfect. No hammer is perfect -- that's why your hardware store has an aisle full of dozens of different types of hammer. But for 99% of homeowners, any normal hammer is well-suited.
I used 3.1, I used 95, I used vista, and I'm using 10. 8,10,11,5 years each. Built a business, mostly with vista. I'm sure, 5 ye
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It's easy to complain. It's also easy to notice when you're complaining about something that has near-zero consequences. What's the point? Ask yourself: how much better would your life be if the situation were better. I'd bet that most of the time, you life would be improved exactly zero.
You're complaining about complaining? What can be more pointless than that? Cheers.
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Ha! I didn't notice!
Maybe someone here will stop as a result, and make my world a more joyful place?
I won't hold my breath.
For those of us in the know they are putting DRM.. (Score:2)
.. into the OS.
Intel, amd's and microsofts push to lock down the PC and turn it into a fully locked down device is coming to fruition with windows 11+.
That means you will no longer own anything and they are building anti-piracy right into the new executable model they have been developing for over 20 years. Most people are too stupid and unaware even on slashdot.
Either way the future of the internet is locked down and encrypted files since with everyone using windows 11, software companies and websites wil
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Not if I switch to Linux
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What are you waiting for? Don't get mad, get even.
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Can't you get around TPM if you run win 11 in a VM?
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Can't you get around TPM if you run win 11 in a VM?
You don't grasp they are changing how future exe's will work UWP was a trial run for encrypted executables like denuvo, future programs will be back ended.
You don't seem to grasp the game industry has been winning the war by backending PC games by rebranding them mmo/f2p so they've been stealing software on an industrial scale since 1997 with ultima online, since the game is running on your PC.
They wanted to kill dedicated servers and local multiplayer hosting of Quake 3/ UT2004 / Warcraft 1-3.
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Well, someday all software will run on the cloud and no one will be able to steal anything. We will all run dumb terminals.
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Well, someday all software will run on the cloud and no one will be able to steal anything. We will all run dumb terminals.
Yeah and that means they are stealing software from us, aka why bother having a $2000 pc if software companies can disable your software library? Shit sucks.
why I upgraded (Score:1)
I had to buy a new desktop pc recently (low to mid end) - w11 was preinstalled. While not everything was working as I wanted / expected (taskbar on the side for example), the difference to w10 was not THAT big (ok, I ensured that Open Shell and some other little tools were working with w11).
But my "main" (private) machine is a "gaming notebook" from 2nd half of 2019 (and it is used for just that - "gaming" in a wide sense of meaning). So I had two machines in use with marginal but noticeable differences.
Sin
most large orgs won't switch for years (Score:2)
W10 EOL - Still 3 years away (Score:2)
What will be interesting is, what resellers and people will do when that huge inventor of 5th thru 7th generation Intels and early then Ryzen 2 machines aren't upgrade-able in 2025? A lot of older equipment on the
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There will likely be a decent number of computers running Windows 10 in 2025 and beyond. Even today, there's still a decent number of machines running Windows 7, and Windows 7 is still well supported by a lot of Windows software. Heck, if you believe the summary, even Windows XP is still hoovering at around 2%.
2015 Hackintosh (Score:2)
"This PC doesn't currently meet the minimum system requirements to run Windows 11."
No one wants Win 11 (Score:2)
The bloatware/spyware/adware that is Windows 11 (and 10) is garbage no one wants... XP is no longer supposed by MS and should fall into the public domain so it can be security updated and we can run that instead....
Old equipment = Windows XP (Score:1)
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Try Linux instead.
Not Production-Ready (Yet) (Score:1)
I went ahead and upgraded my Windows 10 laptop to Windows 11, and wish I waited. It is riddled with bugs and functionality gaffes. By releasing it into production before it was really finished, the public has become a large test base for Microsoft as it continues working on the product. I look forward to the next (or so) major release where they address all (or most) of these problems.
It's sickening! (Score:1)
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Microsoft repeatedly releases these new and "improved" versions of Windows simply as a means of increasing their own revenue! Nothing more. They aren't at all concerned if we (the consumers) hate them... they just know we need them. That's evil.
Need? What are you doing that is impossible to do on any other OS than the latest version of Windows?
Experience (Score:2)
Just did my first maintenance of W11 for some people, and while I wasn't terribly excited, in first using it, after this afternoon, my reaction is "What The Actual Fuck!?"
Had to go into Bios to enable wake on LAN - that's different to get to. Trying to open network settings via the search panel takes Multiple clicks and it's all moved around for no actual good reason. Had to search f
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This was an app, not a web site, so it's completely irrelevant to this article.
There are so many holes to shoot in this story, that I'm somewhat amused you picked this particular issue to use for a comment.
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Can't disagree with any of that, but good luck installing Windows 7 on a new computer.