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The Military Google

Russia's Military Is Now On Full Display In Google Maps Satellite View (arstechnica.com) 67

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: On Monday, the Internet got a much better look at military facilities across Russia. Google Maps stopped obscuring the sensitive locations due to Russia's ongoing invasion of its neighbor Ukraine. The Ukrainian Armed Forces announced the end of Google's censorship of Russia's bases on Twitter. Thanks to former US President Donald Trump, we know that the 0.5 m per pixel resolution available on Google Maps' satellite view is a far cry from the images available to the US government. But it will be invaluable to the growing mass of open source intelligence analysts. Since Russia's invasion of Ukraine began in late February, the OSINT community on Twitter has been cataloging Russian losses by geolocating images of destroyed tanks, fighting vehicles, aircraft, and cruise missile attacks.

Twitter users have already identified some interesting sights. Images taken of a Russian airbase at Lipetsk show partially disassembled MiG-31s (or perhaps MiG-25s). Another shows several Sukhoi fighter jets painted in patriotic colors, at least one of which is also missing its wings. Zhukovsky Airport near Moscow shows some oddities parked outside thanks to its role as a test flight center, including a Buran shuttle and a Sukhoi Su-47 technology demonstrator.
UPDATE: A Google spokesperson told Ars that the company hasn't changed anything with regard to blurring out sensitive sites in Russia, so perhaps none of us were looking closely until now.
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Russia's Military Is Now On Full Display In Google Maps Satellite View

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  • Future (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Zemran ( 3101 ) on Monday April 18, 2022 @05:34PM (#62457850) Homepage Journal
    Can't help but wonder how we will feel when this is done to us.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Can't help but wonder how we will feel when this is done to us.

      Perhaps we should refrain from invading other countries.

      • Re: Future (Score:5, Funny)

        by AmazingRuss ( 555076 ) on Monday April 18, 2022 @06:25PM (#62457960)
        Sir, this is AMERICA!
      • by Osgeld ( 1900440 )

        lol

      • What if those countries have our oil?
      • Re:Future (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Darinbob ( 1142669 ) on Monday April 18, 2022 @07:52PM (#62458142)

        Agreed. No whataboutism here. US should not have invaded Iraq for instance. The bug difference is that the US tried to keep Iraq going, it did not try to bomb any cities to total rubble, and the goal appeared to be to do a regime change without scorching the earth or shooting civilians in the back of the head, so that Iraq would end up as a stable country. Whereas in parts of Ukraine the war crimes started immediately, as if there were orders to execute random civilians in order to pacify the public. Being brutal is Russia's modus operandi, as seen in Grozny and Aleppo.

        The US also court martialed its own soldiers when evidence of wrong doing was uncovered. Trump went and pardoned some excessively disturbed soldiers of their obvious war crimes, feeding into the stupid idea that some overly patriotic people have that soldiers are always heros and can do no wrong. Which is exactly what Russia is doing today - the Russian soldiers at Bucha were given a honorary title of "guard" despite the evidence of war crimes occuring there; in essence, saying "thank you" for the executions and mass graves.

        • so that Iraq would end up as a stable country.

          Yeah, that went well.

    • by hey! ( 33014 )

      They already have [goo.gl]. In a free country you can just look at things that are state secrets in a dictatorship.

    • They have and they used our satellites [c4isrnet.com]. Fortunately, no one was killed despite the most devastating bombing of a US airforce base in decades.

    • Has it not already?

      I assume that Google has reasonably deep pockets when it comes to buying commercial imagery(they could certainly afford it; I don't know how tightly their bean counters demand business justification for frequent, premium-tier refreshes of places that don't move much adsense revenue); but they don't have anything fundamentally different from anyone else willing to pay professional amounts of money and not sanctioned to hell and back(and, one assumes, people who are sanctioned to hell an
  • Update (Score:1, Troll)

    by SuperKendall ( 25149 )

    Update: The entire basis for the headline turns out to be invalid, but we got a subtle dig at Trump in so victory!

  • Photos from when? (Score:5, Informative)

    by quantaman ( 517394 ) on Monday April 18, 2022 @05:50PM (#62457878)

    The pictures of my house are >5 years old. Maybe you can figure out the typical role of a facility from old satellite photos but you aren't gathering current intel.

    • by Osgeld ( 1900440 )

      no one else on the planet cares about your house outside of your family, so there's less benefit from updating it

    • There are MANY places outside of contested towns in Ukraine on Google Maps that show very new trench formations. Here are some [google.com], I think you can see trenches still being built here... Just follow roads in fighting areas, these are everywhere.
  • by Lisandro ( 799651 ) on Monday April 18, 2022 @06:01PM (#62457906)

    It's not like a) Google were ever blurring Russian sites in Google Maps, at all, or b) this was super top secret information to begin with.

    Google buys satellite imagery from private companies so, rest assured, any country on Earth with a semi-decent intelligence office already has them as well.

  • by Dan East ( 318230 ) on Monday April 18, 2022 @06:13PM (#62457936) Journal

    Google is saying they haven't changed any of their policies regarding blurring satellite imagery and those images of military have always been visible.

    https://www.theverge.com/2022/... [theverge.com]

    Looks like the information war going on in a major way, and hard to confirm either way.

    • Google is saying they haven't changed any of their policies regarding blurring satellite imagery and those images of military have always been visible.

      https://www.theverge.com/2022/... [theverge.com]

      Looks like the information war going on in a major way, and hard to confirm either way.

      Ah, so it's "misinformation". I look forward to it being disappeared from all social media.

  • This is Ars Technica. Why would they let facts get in their way and destroy a good story.
  • .. according to MSM/CIA, they've ran out of ammo on the day 4 of the war...
    • I don't know where you are getting your information, but it's definitely not from the MSM/CIA. No one said they ran out of ammo on day 4 of the war.

      • How about this ? https://www.theguardian.com/wo... [theguardian.com]
        • Sorry, that is after a month of fighting, not on day 4. And it's not implausible, since they left around Kiev shortly after that was published.

        • by fazig ( 2909523 )
          It says that they only had 3 days of supplies left according to Ukraine military. And the article was published on March 22nd, almost a month after Russia invaded.

          To reiterate. It says right in the headline that it is according to the information of Ukraine military. The article even writes:

          The claims of major shortages were described as “plausible” by western officials although they said they were unable to corroborate the analysis.

          And it's been almost a month after the invasion started. That

          • So they weren't ultrathin with ammo, just very thin ? Wow. What a difference.
            • by fazig ( 2909523 )
              The difference is that the core point of what you claimed there in your original comment is outright refuted by your own source.

              It's not about day 4 of the war, it's about 4 days before the end of the first month of the war.
              It's not about MSM, it's about what the Ukraine military claimed, and that is stated right in the headline.
              It's also not about the CIA, it even says that western officials say they were unable to confirm it based on their own data.

              Now I was giving you the benefit of a doubt, assuming
  • by LazLong ( 757 ) on Monday April 18, 2022 @07:10PM (#62458038)

    AFAIK, the US doesn't bother with requiring obfuscation of public satellite imagery because it's a waste of effort. Our enemies have satellite imagery capability, so public obfuscation gets you nothing. Same with the childish practice of closed, or postal box, cities as practiced in the former USSR and Russia. Not that I haven't seen stupidity in our security practices, just not to the same degree.

    Spending those resources on personnel and actual physical security is a better use.

  • At least the source acknowledged it is bullshit at the top of their article. Spreading nonsense is counterproductive. Unless the story is, “story retracted, yet still being spread on the internet”.

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