EU Working on Possible Ban on Providing Cloud Services To Russia (reuters.com) 29
The European Union is working on a possible ban on the provision of cloud services to Russia as part of new sanctions against the Kremlin for the invasion of Ukraine, an EU official told Reuters on Wednesday, noting the measure was technically complex. From a report: If introduced, it is unclear how the EU ban would affect Russia, because top cloud providers in Europe are U.S. companies, including Amazon, Google and Microsoft. The European Union last week adopted a new package of sanctions against Russia and Belarus which included an oil embargo, restrictive measures on Russian banks and a ban on the provision of consultancy services to Moscow.
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And no, I don't like the smell of brain farts in the morning. (But actually I'm just trying to prevent the propagation of another vacuous Subject.)
(I'm currently reading We are Anonymous and I really had no idea they were that crazy. The "principles" people will fabricate and confabulate to "justify" their actions are truly amazing. And I thought I was jaded already! So 2chan may have been a brain fart, but it was a remarkably damaging one. (Surprised to see it still exists, but I'm not going to take a dip just to find out if it's still a cesspool.))
Not a troll comment, but I do enjoy wasting the trolls' mod points. Really hard to censor Slashdot--but on top of their other problems, they must be too stupid to notice that.
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Do you even know anything about Eastern Europe?
This outta drive a few nails into the cloud coffin (Score:5, Insightful)
Russia is the bad guys, yes. And surely they deserve what's coming to them.
But surely even the staunchiest of US allies won't fail to take notice that their collective digital balls is at the mercy of the US's hand to squeeze, and if they value their sovereignty, they'd better go back to offline applications or grow their own in-house cloud solution. Responsible companies should too: they're one internet outtage and one US administration away from shutting down their operations.
The sooner the reality of the cloud madness finally dawns on those in charge the better, and the Russian example is a welcome case in point.
Re:This outta drive a few nails into the cloud cof (Score:5, Insightful)
Who is attacking Russia?
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So the EU starts talking about cutting off Russia, and the United States is the bad guy? I'm afraid you're going to need to connect the dots on that one, since the US Government isn't talking about telling AWS, Google, Microsoft, Oracle, IBM, Rackspace, etc. to do this.
This sounds more like the EU is dropping another step in the "fuck around and find out" playbook on Russia - the sanctions have already killed their ability to source tech products and cloud computing is an obvious workaround if you can stil
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So the EU starts talking about cutting off Russia, and the United States is the bad guy?
This isn't about the EU vs. the US, but rather about being vulnerable to sanctions along the lines of what the EU is proposing at the hands of any foreign government. The EU may be the one acting right now, but it could just as easily be the US next time (AWS and Azure have already cut off certain Russian customers... voluntarily, for now). A smart company at risk of being targeted will not wait until after they've been formally sanctioned to address this vulnerability.
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More to the point, it's not even slightly about good or bad. It's about viable or not. As in, if your cloud services go away, is your business viable?
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More importantly here in the US if we had a lick of sense we'd be seeing the EU as the far far greater THREAT to our economic success than Russia ever could dream of being.
The EU is tossing its weight around left and right and its hurting US companies and US interests. That really should not be 'embraced' from FP standpoint. Trump was right to fan the Brexit flames. The US admin should have been backing Le Pen in France, and otherwise doing everything possible to separate the EU into a bunch of little ind
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OP is, like so many others, completely focused on the US. There are some small cloud and hosting providers in the EU, including some in the slavic countries that most yankistanis have never heard of.
One of the goals of this ban is to close down things like russian VPN servers, proxies, file hosting etc used by various Russian organisation, both fully governmental as well as privateers.
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even the staunchiest of US allies won't fail to take notice that their collective digital balls is at the mercy of the US's hand to squeeze
You're making this out to be way bigger than it actually is. This is not going to do anything. It's only affecting a subset of cloud services so Russian companies will just redeploy their applications to non-EU providers.
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Hey stupid.... the article is about the EU, not the US.
Fuck off with your anti-america hate rant.
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Not really. It doesn't really even matter in the end anyways because Russia insists on data being stored in Russia.
So it's really not doing a whole lot - if you have to store the data in Russia anyways, you might as well just set up a Russian subsidiary if you really wanted to do it.
And in the end, it's more fun for the Russian cloud providers who are straining under the weight of their existing customers - the sanctions have basically meant they can't grow - they're running out of compute time and storage
it is unclear how the EU ban would affect Russia (Score:2)
because top cloud providers in Europe are U.S. companies, including Amazon, Google and Microsoft.
Well, what do they find more lucrative? Europe or Russia?
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More business for Alibaba (Score:2)
It is quite hilarious watching from outside how EU still think they are the center of the world.
When EU ban EU companies from doing business with Russia, they just give more business to Chinese/Indian/US companies. Yes, including US companies, you would be a fool to think that the US govt would actually do something that may hurt US business, especially in an election year.
All the sanctions and ban EU did would only benefit EU politicians' careers and non-EU companies getting more business, while hurting E
US way would be... (Score:3)
If this was a ban by the USA, anyone who provided cloud services would be sancioned as well. In other words, if the EU bans cloud for Russia, they should break ties with the US if they continue to do it.