Israel Ministry of Defense To Test Drone-Packing Advanced Robotic Tank (newatlas.com) 47
The Israeli Ministry of Defense plans to begin testing of a Medium Robotic Combat Vehicle (M-RCV) next year. New Atlas reports: Developed by the Ministry of Defense's Directorate of Defense Research and Development (DDR&D), the Tank and APC Directorate, and Israeli security industries, the robotic tank is based on a new robotic platform type BLR-2 made by Israeli firm BL. It features a 30-mm autonomous turret originally developed by the Tank and APC Directorate for the Eitan armored personnel carrier; the Elbit Iron Fist Active Protection System, which is a smaller, mountable version of the Iron Dome anti-projectile defense system; fire control and mission management systems; a robotic autonomous operations kit; and active and passive sensors for situational awareness.
In addition, the robotic vehicle carries a capsuled drone that it can deploy and retrieve for forward reconnaissance missions. It can also carry a variety of heavy loads, as well as an Israeli Aerospace Industries missile launcher and Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Spike missiles. According to Elbit, the robot can operate in all weathers in a largely autonomous mode and can integrate with uncrewed battlefield arrays. Field tests in representative scenarios are scheduled to start in 2023. You can view the M-RCV in action here.
In addition, the robotic vehicle carries a capsuled drone that it can deploy and retrieve for forward reconnaissance missions. It can also carry a variety of heavy loads, as well as an Israeli Aerospace Industries missile launcher and Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Spike missiles. According to Elbit, the robot can operate in all weathers in a largely autonomous mode and can integrate with uncrewed battlefield arrays. Field tests in representative scenarios are scheduled to start in 2023. You can view the M-RCV in action here.
some discrepancy.. (Score:4, Insightful)
rationale for defending/accreting occupied lands: writings from antiquity of dubious origin and based on moral code incompatible with 21st centrury.
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Re:some discrepancy.. (Score:5, Funny)
Year of country's birth: 1948. Judaea & Samaria were part of Israel then.
Year when neighbors descended and Jordan stole Judaea & Samaria: 1948.
Year when Israel retook Judaea & Samaria from Jordan:1967.
You can't steal what was yours in the first place.
You mean the stuff that was stolen from the locals in 1948? Israel should never have been created; it's like taking a patch of land in England and calling it The Shire because you think Lord of the Rings is a documentary.
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You don’t recognize Jewish claims to self-determination in any part of Israel.
Got it.
Right. They're literally recreating a fantasy land on someone else's property. It's a nonsense. I've no problem with people being Jewish if that's what gets their rocks off, but they can do it in their own homes instead of ones that have been stolen off someone else.
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Ah, so the Jews have to leave Israel. OK. Are the Arab Israelis allowed to stay?
Anyone who's land was taken from them and are still alive should have that returned to them*. Anyone living anywhere else can stay or go as they like. What's the problem with that? Where's the deep moral conundrum about returning stolen goods?
* Descendants basically have to suck it up and admit that the bad guys win sometimes. Otherwise these things roll on for centuries.
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I just like telling people that Jesus was brown skinned with black hair. Nobody from the middle east is born blonde with blue eyes. He also has little in common with his current day followers.
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You donâ(TM)t recognize Jewish claims to self-determination in any part of Israel.
No, what's not recognized is Jewish claims to any part of Palestine.
Neither the Jews nor the Palestinians originally held that land, so any blathering about who was there first is irrelevant.
The Jews got kicked out of that region and we reinstalled them by force so that we could use them to keep down Islam, period, but not the end; they are continually trying to illegally (per international law) annex the rest and the USA is willfully assisting it by using the UNSC to block any efforts at reform. There are
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"No, what's not recognized is Jewish claims to any part of Palestine."
Are you talking about Jewish Palestine, Arab Palestine, or Syria Palaestina?
Re:some discrepancy.. (Score:5, Informative)
It doesn't matter, really, since that land changed hands so many times. No matter who claims they were there first, they are all lying. Further, they are all racially mixed despite efforts to the contrary, so they are all the same people anyway, which makes the situation even more pathetic. Religion ruins everything.
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It's a shame the US still relies so much on relatively cheap, high-quality Middle East oil. If it got over that dependence, there would be no reason to give a single f^ck what went on in that blood-soaked hell hole. Put a fence around it and sell tickets to the slaughter.
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It's a shame the US still relies so much on relatively cheap, high-quality Middle East oil. If it got over that dependence, there would be no reason to give a single f^ck what went on in that blood-soaked hell hole. Put a fence around it and sell tickets to the slaughter.
The US is a net exporter of oil [wikipedia.org]. The reason we are dependent in any way is refineries. They each cost at least three metric shit tons to build and the types of processing you need for heavy crude and light crude are different and incompatible. Because of changing extraction methods and historical supply, america is set up to process heavy while we extract mostly light. Thus even though we produce more than we need, we need to trade to refine it.
But even then “energy independence” is compl
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The obvious answer would be to nationalize the industry...take it out of the hands of corporations. We both know that's not going to happen, of course.
What's sad is that the US could have been the world leader in sustainable energy. Unfortunately, corporate-owned legislators scuttled any initiatives in that direction. A realistic mix of fossil fuel, nuclear, wind, solar, geothermic and tidal generation would certainly have been possible today if the US had committed to serious research and manufacturing
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Further, they are all racially mixed despite efforts to the contrary, so they are all the same people anyway
Arabs and Sephardic Jews are both 'Semitic Peoples,' if that's what you're trying to say.
Ashkenazi (sic) are Central Asian peoples who have zero historical claim on the Levant - but damn if they weren't bound and determined; they even dredged-up and memorized a dead language (of someone else's ancestors, no less) to give themselves an air of legitimacy.
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Yep, a tribe with permanent rights to a land regardless of where the tribe’s members were born or where their ancestors were born. So if you were born in Europe or the US you can convert to Judaism, become a member of the tribe and kick out those interlopers who can only trace their heritage back a few hundred years
Re:some discrepancy.. (Score:4, Insightful)
"we reinstalled them by force so that we could use them to keep down Islam"
Not a fan of history I see. Starting in the 1800s (and probably before) Jewish immigration to Palestine from Europe and Russia increased due to increasing antisemitic incidents. They joined the Sabra, the Jews already living there. This increased in the early part of the 1900s. After WWII, Jews in Europe and Russia decided they needed a homeland. Europe and Russia were broken because of the war and extremely poor, there was nothing there for them. And given how the Europeans and Russians tended to take out their frustrations on the Jews, many left for Palestine.
During the war, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem made a visit to Hitler to tell him to get on with exterminating the Jews. The Nazis eventually made him a Gruppenfuhrer and his band of thugs committed atrocities in the Balkans.
The U.S. didn't think squat about Muslims during and before the war. In fact, Roosevelt signed an oil deal with the fat boys in Saudi Arabia. When Israel decided to declare itself a state, Truman didn't express any enthusiasm at all. It caught his administration, not by surprise, but presented a new conundrum since the U.S. had "allies" in the region at the time, more trading partners than anything.
The Arabs decided to get into the act and started cracking down on Jews in their countries. That increased emigration to Israel. After the 1947 war and the plans they laid for 1967, Israel struck first and grabbed the rest of Palestine. The Arabs deserved to lose.
The Arabs weren't done, Sadat and Assad (the current leader of Syria's daddy) tried again in 1973 but Israel fought them to a draw only because the U.S. stepped in a stopped them marching on Cairo and Damascus.
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It's not possible to understand the Israel/Palestine problem without taking into consideration the surrounding countries. They are very much a part of the issue.
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"we reinstalled them by force so that we could use them to keep down Islam"
Not a fan of history I see. Starting in the 1800s (and probably before) Jewish immigration to Palestine from Europe and Russia increased due to increasing antisemitic incidents. They joined the Sabra, the Jews already living there. This increased in the early part of the 1900s.
They were still a minority in Palestine [jewishvirtuallibrary.org].
After WWII, Jews in Europe and Russia decided they needed a homeland. Europe and Russia were broken because of the war and extremely poor, there was nothing there for them. And given how the Europeans and Russians tended to take out their frustrations on the Jews, many left for Palestine.
That's understandable why the Jews would seek a homeland. But I hope you also understand why the Palestinians wouldn't want to volunteer their land in particular (note, the British were ruling them at the time).
During the war, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem made a visit to Hitler to tell him to get on with exterminating the Jews.
Terrible, but also note that Muslim antisemitism largely arose as a consequence of the mass Jewish immigration to Palestine.
The Arabs decided to get into the act and started cracking down on Jews in their countries. That increased emigration to Israel. After the 1947 war and the plans they laid for 1967, Israel struck first and grabbed the rest of Palestine. The Arabs deserved to lose.
The Arabs weren't done, Sadat and Assad (the current leader of Syria's daddy) tried again in 1973 but Israel fought them to a draw only because the U.S. stepped in a stopped them marching on Cairo and Damascus.
Again, try looking at it from the Palestinian and Arab perspective.
Western powers were in charge of a large Arab/Muslim territory, cont
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Zionists we’re quite open about what they wanted to achieve and how they would achieve it. Theodor Herzl wrote about ethnically cleansing all non-Jews. David Ben-Gurion had no problem cutting a deal with Hitler and created a plan to mass-murder and ethnically cleanse non-Jews. He also presided over a reign of mass-murder pre-Israel in which women and children were specifically targeted. Sound familiar?
The other luminaries of Zionism were similarly violent and brutish. Jabotinsky, Weizmann, Dayan, et
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Year of country's birth: 1948.
This wasn't just empty, unclaimed land just sitting there for the taking, it was land that belonged to another country, and was stolen [history.com].
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This will just lead to more war crimes and human rights abuses, just like aerial drones did.
Reminds me of that episode of Stargate SG1 where they visit a planet with two warring countries, one using drones and the other manned aircraft. Except the Palestinians don't have any real armour at all.
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This will just lead to more war crimes and human rights abuses, just like aerial drones did.
Or worse. Computers were considerably more difficult to hack into when they were just standalone systems. They became ripe juicy targets for hacking with a simple Ethernet interface and 20th Century internet technology.
Imagine what happens with hacking when you network every military weapon. Sad that President Eisenhower's warning about the MIC, could become our epitaph.
We're even dumb enough to name it Skippy McSkynet with a survey.
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My take: in terms of electronics sophistication (sensors, seekers, cameras, comms, etc), there's nothing new about "drones"; it doesn't matter whether you put that sensor package on a quadcopter or a prop plane or a missile, it does the same thing.
Modern military rockets have highly sophisticated electronics. Take Brimstone, for example. You fire it and it first converges to its flight altitude. At it approaches its pre-programmed target zone, it starts scanning the zone for targets. While it uses radar, it
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Yes we are all very familiar with the idiocy of humans stepping on a battlefield to kill each other, arguing over what happens when you die.
After a while, AI will figure out that humans are the cause of drone harm, and retaliate. Efficiently. And then we get to watch Skippy McSkynet come alive like Number 5.
Bigger Mars rover! (Score:1)
will it stop for tankman? (Score:2)
will it stop for tankman?
Like a fat rover with fat tires (Score:2)
The Israeli/Palestine Perpetual Conflict (Score:1)
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but then how would the resurrection of christ happen?
Spider Tanks (Score:2)
Will they have cute female voices and be modeled roughly on the form of a spider? Can we name them Tachikoma?
https://ghostintheshell.fandom... [fandom.com]
Ogre! (Score:2)
Does Steve Jackson Games get credit?
http://www.sjgames.com/ogre/ [sjgames.com]
Get ready for robot jail (Score:1)
And how will they test it? (Score:2)
On Palestinian civilians, of course! The same way they always do. Fire at civilians, deny they did, get caught out, mumble something about being misrepresented, accuse anyone who thinks murdering Palestinian children is bad of being an anti-semite, collect billion dollar cheque from the US.
Coming soon.... (Score:2)
to a local neighborhood near you!
You feel safe yet, citizen? You should. These will be state of the art and protect us...I mean YOU from the 'bad guys' (that are mostly just figments we made up so that we can justify exerting even more control on YOU, not us.)
If you think I'm being paranoid, need I remind you of how many 1-horse towns had a couple of mine-resistant personnel carriers? Only a fool would think they were immune to this crap.
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Attention citizen: you have 5 seconds to comply.
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RoboTank: The Future of War Enforcement. (Score:2)