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Windows 10's 22H2 Update Might Not Actually Do Much of Anything (arstechnica.com) 35

The Windows 11 22H2 update is working its way through Microsoft's Windows Insider testing channels, and we'd expect it to begin rolling out to Windows 11 PCs at some point in the next few weeks or months. But Microsoft has had almost nothing to say about the next major update to Windows 10 beyond the fact that the operating system will keep getting yearly updates for the foreseeable future. From a report: And the Windows 10 22H2 update is actually already out there for those who know how to install it. Neowin has published a list of commands that can be typed into the Command Prompt or Windows Terminal to turn a fully updated Windows 10 21H2 install into a 22H2 install. The commands use Microsoft's Deployment Image Servicing and Management (DISM) tool to make tweaks to your Windows install and require the optional KB5014666 update for Windows 10 to be installed first. The catch is that enabling Windows 10 22H2 doesn't actually seem to do much beyond incrementing the version number on the "About Windows" screen.
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Windows 10's 22H2 Update Might Not Actually Do Much of Anything

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  • Where any change is bad because it's change for changes sake, the best update is no change at all!
    • Why would they bother to update it once it's on a subscription model?

      They already have your money, so... just go through the motions. Make it look like you're getting updates, reboot, repeat.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Windows 10 isn't in a subscription model.

        This is normally what happens when the next version comes out. They only do security and severe bug fixes, and they tend to be low quality in terms of performance impact.

        • This is normally what happens when the next version comes out. They only do security and severe bug fixes, and they tend to be low quality in terms of performance impact.

          Sure, don't want current users to be so happy they won't want to needlessly "upgrade" to the newer version.

    • Mant changes since Windows 7 haven't been improving the user experience anyway.

  • by trevc ( 1471197 )
    Installing something that is not actually released yet using unsupported methods does nothing!
  • by Shag ( 3737 ) on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @12:54PM (#62659888) Journal

    Sounds like it doesn't brick anything!

  • by MikeDataLink ( 536925 ) on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @12:58PM (#62659912) Homepage Journal

    No changes for change's sake.

    • No changes for change's sake.

      There's no such thing as changes for change's sake. There's only changes which were made for reasons you don't understand.

      Even just rearranging the deck chairs ... I mean updating the UI is done because there's clear evidence that most of the unwashed masses prefer interfaces which are "fresh" and get bored of being stagnant.

      Hint: MBA's don't waste money on changes that don't have an underlying benefit (to them, not necessarily to you).

      • I don't believe it's true that 'the unwashed masses prefer interfaces which are "fresh"'. The "magazine" reviews talk about Fresh And Clean, but I think very few users, washed or otherwise, care.

    • by antdude ( 79039 )

      I miss the old days when minor version changes were just fixes without new features. Major new versions would have new features.

  • Here is the Windows 95 source code that leaked back in the mid-90s: https://web.archive.org/web/20... [archive.org]

    Yeah, I figured that was fake though .. seemed like it would perform a lot better.

  • A true wopr, the only winning update is to not change anything...

  • Really, folks, don't we have anything sensible to discuss?

  • by williamyf ( 227051 ) on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @01:10PM (#62659958)

    What did you all expected?

    The OS has been EoS, and the EoL date for non enterprise support is ~ Oct 2025.

    Unless there is something MS needs to backport from Win11 for one reason or the other, at this stage, the annual Feature update will mostly just mean that you are on a certain patch level, and all the patches you somehow avoided before are now baked in the "new OS version"

    Nothing to see here, move along.

  • If nothing else, it keeps Windows Updates going beyond some yet to be determined date. Patch management systems will stay green when everything is on the latest version. Install a useless update, continue to get patches, and see happy green charts.

  • From what I can tell the last Windows 10 updates were to push functionality to users they did not want. For example, KBKB5005463 [pcmag.com] installed PC Health Check without listing that was the real purpose. I removed PC Health Check and recently an update brought it back. Sneakily the update did not reinstall the app. They just rolled the functionality into Windows, and it does not seem to be able to be removed as a separate app. This new update might add back in unwanted functions like Telemetry and Data harvesting
    • They just rolled the functionality into Windows

      That's what they did with IE a long time ago, you'd think they'd have learned not to do this by now. Oh wait, it's Microsoft, nvm

  • Microsoft adds new features, people complain.
    Microsoft doesn't add new features... people still complain.
    Microsoft doesn't update the OS at all... no prize for guessing what people do.

    • by Voyager529 ( 1363959 ) <voyager529@ya[ ].com ['hoo' in gap]> on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @05:18PM (#62660616)

      Microsoft adds new features, people complain.

      Overly simplistic. Few people complained about the presence of WSL or Hyper-V. Few people have a problem with the ability to run Android apps without Bluestacks. Not many were upset with the improvements to the HAL or UEFI support or TRIM or anything to that effect.

      "Features" aren't the problem. "Problematic Features" are. Every start menu change since Windows 7 has been a regression. Every taskbar change since Windows 7 has been a regression. Microsoft accounts going from 'an option for those who want it' to seeing how close to 'mandatory' they can possibly get is a regression. The sheer volume of notifications the system will give you without users expressly opting out of them is a regression. "Search" going from local-files-only to "wait for me to run a Bing search first, before I show results from the start menu" is a regression.

      Windows is a more-than-usable OS when it gets out of the way and lets users run the other applications they use Windows to make possible. The new features Microsoft keeps adding either end up being regressions, lateral moves, or only available when tied to an MS account. So yes, users complain about THOSE.

      Microsoft doesn't add new features... people still complain.

      Who's complaining about MS not adding features this go-round? MS already indicated that the H2 releases were intended to be more of the service pack / bug fix / security update variety, and they said this years ago. If some random blogger is complaining that there aren't new feature in a service pack, then I'm hard pressed to consider that hot take one to which credence should be lent. Really, MS not-adding features strikes me as a good thing at this point.

      Microsoft doesn't update the OS at all... no prize for guessing what people do.

      Well, they've been providing monthly updates for the better part of 20 years now, so if MS doesn't make updates, odds are good that there will be questions as to whether there's a reason for the misstep in the long-established cadence.

  • They're finally getting some sense.

    It annoyed me to no end that with each update of windows 10, I would get an endless list of new features, introducing new bugs, instead of an update focusing on fixing bugs and security issues.

  • The update includes new tools to annoy you with hints that Windows 11 is better, more secure.

    Uh, yeah.

    Virtualization is where it's at folks. I have to run windoze for clients but it's not my base OS, and all of my Windows Desktops are now virtualized.

  • I wonder, if maybe it's time to shed the operating system in general and replace it with something else.
    In a lot of ways the browser has already done it, but certain restrictions in the structure keep it from operating at operating system level.
    Those restrictions can be worked around using something like nwjs. The browser tech is mature enough that it might not be the worst idea to rebuild the userland with it.
    There used to be some odd ports that were kind of a similar idea. KDE had a Windows version that
    • by xalqor ( 6762950 )

      Replace the OS with a browser? And the browser will run on... Not-an-OS?

      The issue isn't with the concept of an operating system, it's with the endless unwanted features that slow down your system, spy on you, and arbitrarily restrict you from running apps you want because somehow that will make more money for the OS vendor.

    • WHy? Keep an OS

      Yes it is frustrating or great depending on which side of the fence you sit on where we are at. Operating systems for clunky legacy desktops aka the new mainframe as mobile is what is new and exciting to kids today has matured.

      As another commenter said here is simple. People like UEFI, Hyper-V, WSL, extra security, MFA login support, and other nifty new os features but hate the rest like changing a gui etc.

      An OS is just so a programmer can write an app that runs on a computer without dealing

  • I wonder how much GB this update will be...

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