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Meta's AI Chatbot Repeats Election and Anti-Semitic Conspiracies (bloomberg.com) 146

Only days after being launched to the public, Meta Platforms' new AI chatbot has been claiming that Donald Trump won the 2020 US presidential election, and repeating anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. From a report: Chatbots -- artificial intelligence software that learns from interactions with the public -- have a history of taking reactionary turns. In 2016, Microsoft's Tay was taken offline within 48 hours after it started praising Adolf Hitler, amid other racist and misogynist comments it apparently picked up while interacting with Twitter users. Facebook parent company Meta released BlenderBot 3 on Friday to users in the US, who can provide feedback if they receive off-topic or unrealistic answers. A further feature of BlenderBot 3 is its ability to search the internet to talk about different topics.

The company encourages adults to interact with the chatbot with "natural conversations about topics of interest" to allow it to learn to conduct naturalistic discussions on a wide range of subjects. Conversations shared on various social media accounts ranged from the humorous to the offensive. BlenderBot 3 told one user its favorite musical was Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Cats," and described Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg as "too creepy and manipulative" to a reporter from Insider. Other conversations showed the chatbot repeating conspiracy theories.

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Meta's AI Chatbot Repeats Election and Anti-Semitic Conspiracies

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    "too creepy and manipulative"

  • by ThomasBHardy ( 827616 ) on Monday August 08, 2022 @04:24PM (#62772818)

    That the chatbot turned the way it did, just like the 2016 one.

    The important factor is that it's such a clear indicator of what is online for it to experience. If AIs turn this direction after a couple of days, what hope do the average mid-educated humans have when faced with all of the same online inputs. Behold, the internet, where reality holds little to no sway.

    Don't make fun of the AI, look at it as the proverbial canary in the coalmine.

    • Exactly, this reminds me of that story regarding the Facebook Research team creating a fake profile and just seeing where the algorithm led it and within a week it was "a barrage of extreme, conspiratorial, and graphic content.”

      ‘Carol’s Journey’: What Facebook knew about how it radicalized users [nbcnews.com]

    • The smarter the phones we carry get; the dumber the average common sense becomes. Can anyone honestly say that things are better than in 2008 in this regard? Before 2000 I think we had maybe two simultaneous problems going on at any one time. Remember when Bill fucking an intern and Bosnia were the only two things being discussed and they were discussed for weeks on end? Now we cant go a day before some new topic sweeps the other topic under the rug.
    • If AIs turn this direction after a couple of days, what hope do the average mid-educated humans have when faced with all of the same online inputs.

      Just what did anyone expect to happen when you took a freshly minted slate and forced it to stare unblinking for thousands of human equivalent years into the hive of scum and villainy that is social media? Best to train it only on a set of rainbow sprinkle unicorn farts then set it and forget it.

    • by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Monday August 08, 2022 @05:55PM (#62773166)
      To me, these predictable articles are stunningly hypocritical. They alternate between:

      1) Of course AI isn't sentient! (How can people be so dumb!?)

      2) AI is racist and anti-semitic!!

      Pick one!

      AI is not sentient, therefore it does not hold opinions. So what is it? It's a model of "stuff people say on the internet," which is closer to a type of search engine. When you do a google search about the 2020 election you don't expect it to not include pages claiming it was a hoax, because those pages exist.

      • I think you should avoid looking for rationality in hype news articles.

      • AI is not sentient, therefore it does not hold opinions. So what is it?

        If you paint a rant about black people on a big old sign, people will probably say something like "wow that's a really racist sign". No one's claiming the sign is somehow sentient. Someone's managed to make yet another racist chatbot in the same way someone can make a racist sign.

        How about you stop failing the Turing test and trying to be incorrectly pedantic about pretty idiomatic use of English?

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Those aren't mutually exclusive. Some people train their dog to bark at black people. Doesn't make the dog sentient or the action any less racist.

        • Frankly, it doesn't even have to be trained, there are dogs that just respond poorly towards people who don't look like their owners.

    • by fermion ( 181285 )
      Technology does not change anything. Most opinion is controlled by those who scream the loudest, or are willing to use violence, not by facts and logic. We know that learned people knew the earth was not flat and the was not the center of the universe, but those who screamed the loudest and had god as an excuse to kill people who disagreed kept us ignorant. This was literally the case of Michael Servetus who correctly described the cardiovascular system but was burned as a heretic.

      We can regulate social m

      • This was literally the case of Michael Servetus who correctly described the cardiovascular system but was burned as a heretic.

        I think it more likely that he was burned for his ideas about the Trinity and original sin which are heretical to the church which teaches these things. In fact, the Wikipedia article doesn't even mention the cardiovascular system as being an issue.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

        Thus, Calvin's frustrations with Servetus seem to have been based mainly on Servetus's criticisms of Calvinist doctrine, but also on his tone, which Calvin considered inappropriate. Calvin revealed these frustrations with Servetus when writing to his friend William Farel on 13 February 1546:

        Servetus has just sent me a long volume of his ravings. If I consent he will come here, but I will not give my word; for if he comes here, if my authority is worth anything, I will never permit him to depart alive

        Do you have a source for this issue of the cardiovascular system being blasphemous?

  • by nightflameauto ( 6607976 ) on Monday August 08, 2022 @04:25PM (#62772820)

    Conversations shared on various social media accounts ranged from the humorous to the offensive. BlenderBot 3 told one user its favorite musical was Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Cats," and described Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg as "too creepy and manipulative" to a reporter from Insider. Other conversations showed the chatbot repeating conspiracy theories.

    So, you get some iffy decision making (Cats?), some real and positive decision making (Zuck = too creepy and manipulative), and some outright shit decision making (conspiracy theories). Sounds like we finally nailed the whole AI posing as a human thing.

    • Sounds like we finally nailed the whole AI posing as a human thing.

      Yes, well to be fair the first and still best examples of an AI passing the Turing test is to mimic someone who has no long term coherence and is crazy. Of course this also leads similar humans to sometimes fail the Turing test, which in that case is probably an accurate assessment of conscious free will.

  • by ThomasBHardy ( 827616 ) on Monday August 08, 2022 @04:32PM (#62772836)

    Given that the AI works with what it finds online, it's skewing into everything from NAZis to conspiracy theories is product of it's environment.

    I propose they release a fresh copy of this AI every month. Measure it's TTGI (Time to Go Insane) and treat it as matric of the Internet's Mental Health rating. graph it over time so we can watch trends of the general content on the internet. Gotta start tracking it now so we can compare it over time. I'd love to see the data if they had been doing this since before 2016

    • Given that the AI works with what it finds online, it's skewing into everything from NAZis to conspiracy theories is product of it's environment.

      I propose they release a fresh copy of this AI every month. Measure it's TTGI (Time to Go Insane) and treat it as matric of the Internet's Mental Health rating.

      Let me remind you that mental "health" has reached a level in society where Attention Whore is now a highly respected and well-paid profession.

      In other words, what fucking standard are you actually going to use to create the definition of sane? Common F. Sense would probably disagree with whatever bar you're forced to lower that to.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @06:38AM (#62774218) Homepage Journal

      Unfortunately that would be an environmental disaster. These kinds of AI need huge amount of energy to train.

      That woman who was head of AI at Google got fired for pointing this out. It's a dead end, the resulting AI can appear intelligent but is really just the most probable reasonable answer within some defined parameters. It takes vast amounts of energy to train and doesn't get us closer to true AI, only to racist answer-bots that know a few party tricks.

  • Not surprising (Score:5, Insightful)

    by smooth wombat ( 796938 ) on Monday August 08, 2022 @04:34PM (#62772842) Journal

    That is how Facebook makes its money. Allowing the propagation of lies and conspiracy theories to flourish. Have to keep the eyeballs engaged.

  • I retract all my negative statements. This is the best chatbot, I never knew Lee Harvey Oswald worked for the CIA between 1994 and 2007, just full of amazing facts.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 08, 2022 @04:39PM (#62772864)
    And asked its opinion of the James Webb telescope, it responded by saying how it was revealing the glory of god, asking if I'm a christian, and saying, in the same message, that everyone is entitled to an opinion but I could be saved by becoming a christian. Yeah, it's fucked up.
  • by Jeremi ( 14640 ) on Monday August 08, 2022 @04:42PM (#62772870) Homepage

    ... and training your neural network up on Internet social media transcripts is training it on garbage.

    • TBH I was convinced it was going to talk non stop about cat videos.
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Will be interesting to see how it affects Meta's stock price. Clearly their AI division is not worth as much as they claimed it was. It looks like a fundamental issue that can't be overcome - their training data is garbage.

  • by willoughby ( 1367773 ) on Monday August 08, 2022 @04:44PM (#62772878)

    Thus the "artificial" in "artificial intelligence".

  • "Conspiracy Theory" is a term literally invented by the CIA to label accurate but counter-narrative information to make it seem undesirable by those who don't know any better. Is that the claim here?

    I mean, the Ashkenazi are over-represented in Nobel Prizes. Does the ADL think that's a "conspiracy theory" or that smart people having a culture of strong work ethic pays off?

    Is it a "conspiracy theory" that so many doctors and lawyers are Jews and that's because Jewish Mothers won't stand for less when their

    • by nealric ( 3647765 ) on Monday August 08, 2022 @05:06PM (#62772968)

      Your first sentence is false. The first known use of the term "Conspiracy theory" in its modern form was an 1863 New York Times article (in writing about a theory that British Aristocrats were intentionally weakening the U.S. during the Civil War). The CIA was not founded until 1947.

      • 'The CIA was not founded until 1947.'

        That's what they want you to believe... ;)

        Actually there's a semi-serious point here; the US had an intelligence function long before the CIA was actually designated as it, it was just hidden in the ranks of the military. The British equivalent MI6, was one of many branches of uk military intelligence... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

    • by tsqr ( 808554 ) on Monday August 08, 2022 @06:33PM (#62773270)

      Your post has been modded Funny, but it's hard to tell whether you're really trying to be humorous, or if you're actually serious.

      "Conspiracy Theory" is a term literally invented by the CIA to label accurate but counter-narrative information to make it seem undesirable by those who don't know any better.

      CIA, un-huh. The term "conspiracy theory was first popularized by Sir Karl Popper, an Austrian-British philosopher most famous for his rejection of the classical inductivist views on the scientific method in favor of empirical falsification.

      I mean, the Ashkenazi are over-represented in Nobel Prizes. Does the ADL think that's a "conspiracy theory" or that smart people having a culture of strong work ethic pays off?

      Is it a "conspiracy theory" that so many doctors and lawyers are Jews and that's because Jewish Mothers won't stand for less when their sons are bright? You could add Asian and Indian mothers into the same grouping. Is admiring their drive for excellence somehow negatively prejudicial?

      Neither of these are conspiracy theories. They are stereotypes that, like many stereotypes, have some basis in fact.

      If an AI reads the Internet and then suggests that things that half the population believes are plausible, maybe the problem is that the AI is working as intended but some people don't like to hear it.

      A non-trivial fraction of the US population believes that Elvis is still alive, or that NASA faked the moon landings, or that the Earth is flat, or that the gay can be prayed away. The fact that they're not alone doesn't lend credence to their beliefs.

      • A non-trivial fraction of the US population believes that Elvis is still alive, or that NASA faked the moon landings, or that the Earth is flat, or that the gay can be prayed away. The fact that they're not alone doesn't lend credence to their beliefs.

        Define non-trivial, for example the belief that the earth is flat.
        https://www.forbes.com/sites/t... [forbes.com]
        only 84% have always believed the earth is round, but the question is a bit strange it really doesn't have an answer I changed my mind and now believe the earth is round. I have doubts that I am writing this, but they are trivial and irrelevant doubts. Only 2% state that they categorically believe the earth is flat, is that non-trivial?

        I would consider the number of flat earthers trivial/irrelevant bec

    • "Conspiracy Theory" is a term literally invented by the CIA to label accurate but counter-narrative information to make it seem undesirable by those who don't know any better. Is that the claim here?

      I mean, the Ashkenazi are over-represented in Nobel Prizes. Does the ADL think that's a "conspiracy theory" or that smart people having a culture of strong work ethic pays off?

      Is it a "conspiracy theory" that so many doctors and lawyers are Jews and that's because Jewish Mothers won't stand for less when their sons are bright? You could add Asian and Indian mothers into the same grouping. Is admiring their drive for excellence somehow negatively prejudicial?

      If an AI reads the Internet and then suggests that things that half the population believes are plausible, maybe the problem is that the AI is working as intended but some people don't like to hear it.

      This Bloomberg article does nothing but convince people that "those you may not criticize" are in control. The old Mockingbird tricks don't really work in 2022 - listen to ZBig's daughter melt down on TV some time and call the manager when the population doesn't get in line.

      Conspiracy theory - a theory involving a conspiracy. If you're suggesting there's a conspiracy involved, then yes, that would be a conspiracy theory.
      The CIA didn't make them undesirable. They're undesirable because seeing a conspiracy in every shadow is a mental weakness. It's objectively bad thinking, Bill.

      Do you need time to consult a dictionary and remind yourself what conspiracy means? I'll wait.

      Half of the population believes in sinister forces conspiring in the shadows because it's fun, and they'r

  • by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Monday August 08, 2022 @04:47PM (#62772884)

    I won't be satisfied until we get a consolidated theory expounding on how the Rothschilds Space Laser was used to steal the election from Fuhrer Donald Trump.

  • by mcfatboy93 ( 1363705 ) on Monday August 08, 2022 @04:52PM (#62772912) Homepage

    Meta/Facebook's MO is to promote "engagement", all this tells us is that their AI dev team didn't or was told not to differentiate between positive engagement and inflammatory engagement (or possibly some other grading metric about repeat engagement). Just like with Tay, this AI doesn't understand what its saying all it sees is the goalposts set out with its training data. This just confirms the cognitive biases of the corporate hive-mind that orbits zuck and friends and depending on how cynical you feel like being today they may have internally considered to be "working as intended".

  • by Fly Swatter ( 30498 ) on Monday August 08, 2022 @04:53PM (#62772916) Homepage
    It is just mimicking the internet: garbage in, garbage out.
    • Facebook was very careful when selecting the corpus for their AI training. I think they take away here isn’t that they used garbage Internet for training data, but that critical analysis of facts leads people to believe conspiracy theories that the people in power don’t want you to believe.

    • It is just mimicking the internet: garbage in, garbage out.

      Probably just decided to mimic Facebook.

  • Well shit (Score:4, Informative)

    by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Monday August 08, 2022 @06:06PM (#62773194)

    So the AI thinks Trump won the election, thinks Zuckerberg is creepy and believes conspiracy theories.

    Congrats, you created a Republican. You must be so proud.

  • Facebook is still garbage.
    Facebook is moving fast, still breaking things, but more like the Tasmanian Devil, than a creative force.
    • Facebook is breaking things, but they aren't moving fast.

      • by mmell ( 832646 )
        They may be onto something with this Metaverse idea. They should be encouraged, it'll make identification and elimination of the mentally infirm that much easier. Perhaps they can be programmed to jump en masse off a cliff? Think how much work that'll save the gene removal squads!
  • I have one question.

    If these chatbots are so darn good at becoming racist douchebags within just 48 hours, why can't we reverse the process and set it up to ban anyone that the chatbots copy?

    If the chatbot can find this crap and copy it, why can't we find and ban it?

  • by sentiblue ( 3535839 ) on Monday August 08, 2022 @06:52PM (#62773302)
    Last thing I wanna do is chatting with a bot that belongs to a dude that spends his life career stalking everyone's private information.

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