More Than 4 In 10 PCs Still Can't Upgrade To Windows 11 (theregister.com) 219
Nearly 43 percent of millions of devices studied by asset management provider Lansweeper are unable to upgrade to Windows 11 due to the hardware requirements Microsoft set out for the operating system. The Register reports: Lansweeper said 42.76 percent of the estimated 27 million PCs it tested across 60,000 organizations failed the CPU test, albeit better than the 57.26 percent in its last test a year ago. Altogether 71.5 percent of the PCs failed the RAM test and 14.66 percent the TPM test. "We know that those who can't update to Windows 11... will continue to use Windows 10," said Roel Decneut, chief strategy officer at Lansweeper, whose customers include Sony, Pepsico, Cerner, MiT and Hilton hotels. He said that even if enterprises are prepared to upgrade their PC fleet to meet the system requirements of Microsoft's latest OS, there are "broader issues affecting adoption that are out of Microsoft's control." "Global supply chain disruption has created chip a processor shortage, while many are choosing to stick with what hardware they have at the moment due to the global financial uncertainty."
Other findings from Lansweeper show adoption rates for the latest OS are improving, running on 1.44 percent of computers versus 0.52 percent in January. This means the latest incarnation has overtaken Windows 8 in the popularity stakes but remains behind market share for Windows 7, despite that software going end of life in January 2020. Adoption is, unsurprisingly, higher in the consumer space. Some 4.82 percent of the biz devices researched were running an OS that wasn't fully supported and 0.91 percent had servers in their estate that are end of life.
Other findings from Lansweeper show adoption rates for the latest OS are improving, running on 1.44 percent of computers versus 0.52 percent in January. This means the latest incarnation has overtaken Windows 8 in the popularity stakes but remains behind market share for Windows 7, despite that software going end of life in January 2020. Adoption is, unsurprisingly, higher in the consumer space. Some 4.82 percent of the biz devices researched were running an OS that wasn't fully supported and 0.91 percent had servers in their estate that are end of life.
And why would you want to? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re: And why would you want to Tinylimp? (Score:2)
People who have recently left the Tinylimp ecosystem like to wear that as a badge of honour.
"Why do people use Tinylimp when I don't anymore?"
Only once a user or admin is 15-20 years beyond Tinylimp do they begin to not give a fuck about what or why people use this or that.
I still read the news on Windows woes and coming advancements, as I know people that use it. Good luck to them. I tell them about the stuff I do with my systems and their eyes glaze over. It's not for them. They can't imagine a use cas
Turning Secure Boot on and off (Score:5, Informative)
Windows 11 users also get forced into Secure Boot. If a user dual-boots between Windows and a second operating system that does not support Secure Boot, how practical is it for the user to turn Secure Boot on to run Windows and off to run the other operating system each time? Or should each user be responsible for operating a private Secure Boot CA, adding its public key to a machine's UEFI setup, and signing each update to the bootloader or kernel with its private key?
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Or should each user be responsible for operating a private Secure Boot CA, adding its public key to a machine's UEFI setup, and signing each update to the bootloader or kernel with its private key?
Why on earth would the system not do this for you... except entering the key into the BIOS, which I presume it cannot do. I found this to be sufficiently irritating that I skipped it since I didn't have to do it, and I use FDE on Linux and don't expect Windows to be secure anyway. Like I'm no longer even doing banking or entering my google password on Windows, only using low-value passwords like forum accounts and such. If I happen to be booted into Windows and want to eBay or something, if I don't want to
Re: Turning Secure Boot on and off (Score:5, Insightful)
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I get what you're saying, but it's a pretty small hardship to use Windows only for games. If I need Windows for an actual application then I run it in a virtual machine anyway. I would run Windows only this way but then I would have to dick with GPU passthrough.
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I've been thinking about building a shallow half-cab and hanging a display on the wall on a rotating mount. Granted it would only give about half of the experience, but it would take less than half the space so it might be a good trade.
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Are there any operating systems that don't support Secure Boot? Linux and BSD do. FreeDOS maybe? I think even that is supported with the right shim.
I don't know why people hate TPM either, it provides useful security features and has not been abused for DRM thus far. Besides, you can just not use DRMed media. TPM has useful functionality for crypto and for protecting the OS from tampering.
Re:And why would you want to? (Score:5, Interesting)
Sure, as a virus.
TPM hardware is a virus.
It's a direct descendant of what used to be called Palladium, before the entire internet erupted in a brief uproar and the name got dropped in favor of "trusted computing" as an overarching doublespeak name. R&D never stopped. And with windows 11, the war on DRM had its final nail driven into the coffin.
https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja1... [cam.ac.uk]
Why it's bad is better summed up here; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy... [gnu.org]
https://secret.club/2021/06/28... [secret.club]
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The TPM hasn't been employed in any DRM scheme to date, as far as I know.
It's a fairly basic crypto device designed to keep private key material secret, up to and including physical attacks. This allows, for example, firmware progressing through boot to describe how state has been changing through extending values in registers, and when the OS starts, if the firmware progression was the same as a trusted progression, then the OS gets access to the keys to decrypt the drive. User gets to have their drive p
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A trusted credential store. Nothing more, nothing less. What you do with it is what determines whether it is good or bad, and it absolutely had many positive uses regardless of whatever negative ones you mention.
If you could trust it, yes absolutely, it would have many positive uses. But since you can't, because even as the user you are not allowed to see what's in it, you really cannot afford to use it at all if privacy is important to you. And if it isn't, why would you benefit from something like it anyway?
Re:And why would you want to? (Score:5, Funny)
It's for Microsoft to trust, not the end-user, that's why it was put there.
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This is in the same category as "Windows 10 has a built in keylogger"
Not even Microsoft denies that Telemetry is capable of capturing your keystrokes. They deny that they do it, but since Microsoft is a known member of PRISM we know that to be a lie.
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That "S" mode... (Score:3)
Like a sword of Damocles dangling over the Windows eco system. It didn't drop yet because there would be a huge uproar now if Windows can't be made to run regular Windows programs. But sooner or later that sword will drop, when M$ has nudged it's user base enough into thinking "gee wiz, the Store programs are good enough for me!" and it will be Windows S Forever come next release. Corporate users will still get regular Windows, but at a nice 'healthy' markup.
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I really don't understand people's need to bash Windows.
this one should be easy: they are driven by the exact same emotional urge to bash as people who need to bash people who need to bash windows.
btw, lovely how you bash people because of poor criticism and then put up a show of poor criticism of your own, kinda going full circle ;-)
TPM has its uses,
for a domestic user? hardly, unless you count illusion of security as a "use".
and that's the thing i dislike most about w11, that it is forcing a product on the user base than nobody asked for nor wanted, and it is a product that es
Everybody knows old stuff was built better! (Score:5, Funny)
Everybody knows old stuff was built better! Thus, older PCs are much better security wise and they refuse to install compromised software like Windows 11. Good!
I am using older PCs like "Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz" and I am happy to know that Windows 11 probably wouldn't install by mistake on them. Great!
Re: Everybody knows old stuff was built better! (Score:2)
Re: Everybody knows old stuff was built better! (Score:2)
Kaypro II Zilog Z80 2.5 Mhz. Let's see Windows 11 sneak onto that!
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Everybody knows old stuff was built better!
In some ways, a lot of it was. And in other ways, it was junk. But one thing the older hardware didn't have was hardware inside your hardware so we can spy on you while we spy on you, dawg. On the other hand, it didn't have nifty stuff like an IOMMU either. And for maximum security, you arguably need to fit into that very small spot between when CPUs got fast enough to have enough spare cycles to spend on nice UI, and the point where they got to be microcode-based and you have to trust binary blobs.
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I know a couple people that have done it just thinking they were installing a regular Windows update and pressed the upgrade to Windows 11
Re: Everybody knows old stuff was built better! (Score:4, Informative)
Look up "dark patterns".
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Re: Everybody knows old stuff was built better! (Score:3)
Um no. "Dark patterns" is a thing, used to trick users who are trying to do one thing into doing another through tricky or confusing UI design. Basically a scam.
Re: Everybody knows old stuff was built better! (Score:3)
Example:
"Accept all cookies and tracking?"
[Accept] --- huge green red button
decline ---- tiny red hyperlink text
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Microsoft thinks they've figured out when you meant to do something like 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and Windows Update does it for you. You can write a timestamp to the registry to make WU think you already skipped the W11 update, or you can use WSUS and never approve that update.
Windows 10 was installed by mistake (Score:5, Informative)
If you get operating systems "installed by mistake", you might have bigger problems
Windows has a history of being "installed by mistake". Windows Update under Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 automatically installed and executed an application called "Get Windows 10" (GWX), and some versions of GWX were defective enough to consider the close (X) button to constitute consent to upgrade. Even when that was fixed, GWX would occasionally steal focus with the Upgrade button focused, and any press of the space bar or Enter key whilst typing would activate the focused button.
See the following previous stories on Slashdot:
1. "Windows 10 Upgrade Reportedly Starting Automatically On Windows 7 PCs" (2016-03-12) [slashdot.org]
2. "Microsoft Auto-Scheduling Windows 10 Updates" (2016-05-15) [slashdot.org]
3. "Windows 10 Upgrade Activates By Clicking Red X Close Button In Prompt Message" (2016-05-24) [slashdot.org]
4. "Woman Wins $10,000 Lawsuit Against Microsoft Over Windows 10 Upgrades" (2016-06-27) [slashdot.org]
Re: Windows 10 was installed by mistake (Score:2)
And I trashed the computer lab "by mistake".
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The Windows 10 upgrade dialog issue was clearly a design mistake.
Upgrade me harder, daddy!
You are such a noob. Not to computers, but to life. Keep making excuses for corporations which have proven they are run by shitheels.
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K... (Score:2)
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It's a week without someone cheating at chess and no crypto scam surfacing, they have to fill the frontpage with something, cut them some slack.
same here (Score:4, Funny)
I am at a total loss, no idea how to 'upgrade' my System76 to windows 11. Maybe I should try apt full-upgrade instead of apt upgrade? What do you all think, will it work?
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Or you can pay $3000 for a $2000 system without that. Just buy a Mac.
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...which used to be assembled in Sacramento. The colorful iMacs were built there, which explains a lot [nytimes.com].
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Does "too stupid to install it themselves" include happening to own a laptop where things like backlight brightness, WLAN, audio, and suspend don't work outside Windows? This was the case for Bay Trail compact laptops, such as ASUS X205TA and T100TA, for quite a while. Avoiding incompatible hardware is one reason why a lot of people choose System76 laptops. It's also a reason why frugal people like me spring for a used ThinkPad, as ThinkPad laptops tend to work well with Linux.
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Recent versions of Linux behave very nicely on AMD hardware at least, which I understand to be in part because AMD actually has been providing proper support for their hardware lately. I have a HP Ryzen 3 laptop with a 3150U chip in, I'm using it right now because my desktop motherboard went tits up and this is the only machine I've got which has a M.2 slot in it. In recent updates my backlight started turning itself off, and the fan behavior improved slightly (though it was already fairly good.) Frequency
Re: same here (Score:2)
"Assembled in the USA"
With all the actual components "Made in China".
So easy to rook, so hard to make them not drink the Kool-Aid.
Wrong take (Score:3)
Global supply issues won't be a problem for PC makers going forward. Demand for product has more than corrected to meet supply. We're in a global recession. The pain is only just starting for the semiconductor industry.
Most of these non-compliant PCs are aging laptops that orgs haven't replaced yet. And they won't until MS threatens to cut off security patches for Win10 which currently happens Oct. 14th 2025.
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My 2016 that I built myself will turn into a pumpkin on Oct 14, 2025 and I am pretty annoyed about that. The latest one I have, a 2019, says it won't install either, but there's supposedly some hardware I can buy to allow it. I'm not all that motivated to buy the hardware when I'm quite happy with the way 10 is working for me. I just wish the whole issue would go away.
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Most of these non-compliant PCs are aging laptops that orgs haven't replaced yet.
Of course. But don't underestimate the ability for people to not give a shit about upgrading something that works. My daily driver laptop is not capable of running Windows 11 and I will upgrade it for security reasons in 2025 or when it dies. I certainly would not fork out money voluntarily on new hardware in order to get Windows 11. I don't hate Windows 11 and I use it on my desktop. But I don't love it either. In fact I like the overwhelming majority of people in the world feel complete and utter indiffer
Environmental disaster (Score:5, Insightful)
If Microsoft forces the issue by cutting off support for Windows 10, there's going to be a lot of junked hardware full of hazardous waste. Ideally, these would all be upgraded to Linux, but the reality is a lot of them won't.
This is reckless disregard for the environment on the part of Microsoft. Linux, FreeBSD and others manage to come up with new releases that still work OK on old hardware... why can't Microsoft?
Re:Environmental disaster (Score:4, Informative)
Because Microsoft decided to require certain buzzword CPU features that Intel only added in the most recent generations, which probably don't (on their own) provide a compelling reason to upgrade to most users. CPUs too old to make the cut can still be nearly as fast, and sometimes even faster, than those that do.
Re:Environmental disaster (Score:5, Interesting)
The ridiculous thing is, for most of the computers unable to upgrade (by my reckoning, no I dont have evidence, its just annecdote, so treat this with a grain of salt), all thats interfering with their ability to upgrade is frigging TPM.
My game laptop is 1 1/2 a year old, 32gigs of ram, 8 core Ryzen and a 2060. Its *relatively* modern by almost any standard but for some reason Windows 11 doesnt like its TPM (Its supposedly TPM 2.0, but Windows 11 disagrees).
It SHOULD be able to run the shit out of Windows 11, but Microsoft DRMed themselves into a corner with this nonsense.
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My gaming PC is definitely on the older side, an i5 6600k with 32GB of RAM and a 1060 6GB, but throw in a 30-series video card and it'd still run basically anything thrown at it more than fine. Apparently 7th gen (or was it 8th? Can't remember) Core chips came with a firmware TPM, and this motherboard may or may not have a TPM header for a semi-proprietary almost-impossible-to-get TPM chip, but it's questionable whether it'd be able to run Windows 11 even with that. Runs 10 completely perfectly, dual boots
Re: Environmental disaster (Score:3)
The end result will be cracked Windows 11 that does not require TPM, but may have a few hidden 'extras'.
So really, this requirement will do little or nothing to improve overall computer security, and may make things a bit worse.
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When time comes, I will repurpose mine as a second home server. As a matter of fact, I will make it my primary server and repurpose existing one as a secondary, but I digress.
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This is reckless disregard for the environment on the part of Microsoft. Linux, FreeBSD and others manage to come up with new releases that still work OK on old hardware... why can't Microsoft?
This change is explicitly about increasing Microsoft's ability to spy on you, and decreasing your level of control over your PC. The "improvements" aren't for you, they're for Microsoft. Microsoft is part of PRISM. You really don't need to know anything else to understand this.
Re: Environmental disaster (Score:3)
I really wish for the Year of the Linux desktop, but there will have to be some real "Average Joe" thinking and cooperation on the part of Linux devs to make it happen.
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KDE is pretty amazing of late. Now what we need is a distribution that cares. Like basically what Debian would be like if they had the staff to stay more current on packages... and without-systemd by default
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Well, there is Slackware, no systemd, KDE and has everything that the average Joe needs on 1 DVD.
Me, hoping for lots of fairly new systems appearing on the Net for Sale real cheap. :) Or maybe wiil dumpster dive in college towns.
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Slackware has weak package management. It was my first Linux, but I'm not going back.
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One day WINE may be good enough to run 90% of Windows programs. On that day Windows will become irrelevant for most home users as we don't care what O/S we're running. It's all about being able to run the programs we use. For standard day to day stuff like email/web browsing/office stuff Linux already has really good software. It's the specialist stuff that's lacking.
Personally I'm only still using Windows as some of my Audio programs don't run on anything else. Reaper now runs very well on Linux so, i
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No there won't be. The general consumer doesn't give a shit about security updates. The general business / company upgrades hardware on a fixed cadence irrespective of what Microsoft does.
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What is so annoying is this is really easy to foresee and I get MS doesn't want to have to support older stuff forever, but with win 11 being so very picky - it's been clear this is feeling like planned obsolescence...
MS makes the new windows require very new hardware then shuts off support for older ones forcing huge numbers to upgrade or run without updates
I predict that a HUGE number of home users will just say screw it and stick with what is running - and without security updates it's going to become a
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Linux, FreeBSD and others manage to come up with new releases that still work OK on old hardware... why can't Microsoft?
Because Linux and FreeBSD don't rely on OEM's to get most of their operating systems installed. And the OEM's... the HPs and Dells and Acers of the world are still furious about the free Windows 10 upgrades. They lost almost two full upgrade cycles to free Win 10 upgrades when people went "Sure, why not? I like my current PC just fine". Just last night I updated an 11 year old laptop for a relative that had been sitting unused in their closet, still with the Win 7 OS it came with. A cheap SSD, some more mem
Wake me up on Jan 2025 (Score:2)
Win10 will get sec updates until Oct 2025 (even longer if you are a deep pocketed corporate).
By Jan 2025 most corporates and users will have to start their plans to migrate to something that keeps getting security patches, be it Win11, Mac, or Linux.
THEN (not now), and only then, is the time to see what % of hardware supports the new OS...
For the time being, yawn, is 10:50pm in my time zone, time to sleep. Wake me up in Jan 2025
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According to game theory, it is best interest for corporations and users to refuse to buy new computers till the last minute, then there will be government pressure towards Microsoft to keep W10 support, even just for the sake of reducing electronic waste.
There is zero incentive for one to throw away their Skylake / Kaby Lake era PCs as they are more than capable for office work and web browsing. Stuff in a beefy GPU then they are good enough for most gaming too.
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According to game theory, it's also in best interest for users to experiment with Proton on GNU/Linux in case Microsoft calls users' bluff and allows the 10pocalypse to proceed as planned once Mickey Mouse's first speaking role (The Karnival Kid) enters the public domain.
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According to game theory, it is best interest for corporations and users to refuse to buy new computers till the last minute
We used to do that, then the problems associated with ramping up a $20M project every 5 years finally started working its way into the bean counters brains. Now we're on a rolling 5 year refresh cycle and perform all those replacements BAU using in-house support.
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or they let up on the CPU or TPM blocker
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I doubt they will switch it off if only 2% has updated. Instead they will have to face the fact they done goofed up.
Well duh (Score:5, Interesting)
The ability to run an up to date OS on older hardware will only become more popular over time, as hardware continues to become more and more capable. This is where the marketing for OSS needs to go; No old boxes out there can run Windows. Every old box out there is still a very useful computer with something else.
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Why wait?
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The PC I am writing this on will never run Windows 11. Ever.
If you were going to draw a line in the sand, it should have been before Windows 10. You've already chosen to run full-blown spyware. Windows 11 is just full-blown spyware with an even shittier interface.
The ability to run an up to date OS on older hardware will only become more popular over time, as hardware continues to become more and more capable. This is where the marketing for OSS needs to go; No old boxes out there can run Windows. Every old box out there is still a very useful computer with something else.
If the majority of the PC market was made up of end users then that would be useful, but most PCs are sold to businesses (because they tend to upgrade more frequently than when all the PCs fail) and the vast majority of businesses don't give a fuck about secrecy, only liability.
Can't or won't (Score:2)
Many people - even Microsoft fanbois - take a dim view of TPM.
Also, remember: these days, a lot of Microsoft users are simply employees using computers supplied by their employers, and most companies don't give a shit about Microsoft's shenanigans : they need word processors and spreadsheets and they just buy the computers they need. I suspect a lot of those 4 out of 10 PCs are new work machines that get upgraded even if the previous one was still perfectly serviceable.
Means to an end, not a destination (Score:2)
You know the operating system was suppose to be the thing that allowed you to do other things, it was never suppose to be the all consuming destination. Why would you even contemplate installing something so obviously bloated? For Christ's sake, kids these days are using things like javascript and python to do systems programming.
mind will (Score:2)
will the windows server line be the same? (Score:2)
will the windows server line be the same? or will they be more open on some parts like host CPU on an VM host?
Iâ(TM)m in that boat sorta (Score:2)
Iâ(TM)ve got the TPM, I pass every test, but Iâ(TM)m not switching from BIOS to UEFI because Iâ(TM)m not dealing with the headache.
And I only wanted to play Solitaire... (Score:2)
I had hoped a Celeron 3Ghz with 8GB of ram would have been enough.
Easy workaround to bypass the checks (Score:5, Informative)
BypassTPMCheck
BypassSecureBoot
BypassRAMCheck
BypassCPUCheck
This worked on 3 of my machines, including one VirtualBox Windows 11 VM. Windows 11 performance is excellent even on these older machines. Two of the 3 machines dual boot into GNU/Linux.
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This only works for a new installation from an USB stick or similar external medium. How about upgrading your existing installation?
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This only works for a new installation from an USB stick or similar external medium. How about upgrading your existing installation?
No problem, Linux doesn't do any of this shit. Windows 11 is not an upgrade, so you couldn't have been talking about that.
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Congratulations!
In the "trying hard to be offtopic" section, you just won 10 Internetz.
Ridiculous (Score:2)
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Valve has really done a lot of good work on Proton, which you can use for other software easily just by adding the program to Steam. One of the really interesting things about using Wine/Proton is that you can play DX12 games which you can't* do on Windows 7 or 8 only because Microsoft put in checks to prevent it.
* It's possible on Win7 and even possible on Win8 but you have to completely break Metro to do it on 8, which includes the login screen
Lucky escape... (Score:2)
Why would anyone want to upgrade?
If they are using windows 10, there's officially 3 years of support left - but we know microsoft will likely have to extend that.
This is all about PC sales - we all know that.
Sales of new PC's has been in decline for years, for many reasons, the main one, I guess, being they've reached a point where they have more processing power than most people use.
A PC should be capable of at least 10 years of service, if not more.
What microsoft have attempted to do here, is to throw 5 o
Still can't upgrade? (Score:5, Interesting)
"More Than 4 In 10 PCs Still Can't Upgrade To Windows 11 " - are you expecting them to suddenly evolve to meet the spurious requirements? My laptop definitely hasn't changed its CPU to a "supported" version.
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Here we go again (Score:2, Informative)
This is no different from any other major OS release MS has done. They want to improve security which requires increasing system requirements, so they created a new OS major version to make it clear to customers there was a divider (Windows 11 was previously intended to be just another Windows 10 yearly feature update). Windows 10 will continue to be supported with security patches through October 2025. I think that's more than reasonable. If you also want new OS features, you need to upgrade. There's no re
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More Than 4 In 10 PCs Still Can't Upgrade To Windows 11
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Well yes, but that applies to many OSes (Score:2)
You probably have a similar number of PCs unable to run a recent version of OS/2, or SCO-Unix. Incompatibilities exist and are rather common.
Typically the solution is to get some sort of emulator like PCem to emulate whatever obscure hardware that OS needs.
4 in 10 can't (Score:2)
...and 4 of the remaining 6 won't until they can't possibly help it.
I was stupid and let 11 on one of my laptops (Score:3)
The downloading of 11 and the incessant nag screens started to annoy me to the point where I said "Meh, how bad could it be?" and let it go through.
Now whenever 11 boots, the laptop keyboard doesn't work. Works fine in BIOS before 11 boots, works fine if I boot from a jump drive into linux. I've done all the sane things like removing the driver, updating the driver, power cycling, applying updates, etc. There are many pages out there on this problem, too. How does MS break something so fundamental as a laptop keyboard?
Now I'm trying to find the time to revert, if that's even possible.
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What kind of keyboard does it say it is? I don't have any wisdom for you at this time but I'm curious as to WTF. I recently noticed that my laptop's off-brand touchpad (ELAN) is an i2c device...
Linux is always a viable upgrade (Score:2)
My computer doesn't have this TPM 2.0 chip. So, I guess I won't be upgrading to Windows 11, once Windows 10 is EOL.
Luckily there are loads of Linux distributions available which would love another user.
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Spyware as an operating system (Score:3)
Where are the class action lawsuits and federal investigations? An OS designed specifically for personal data collection is a criminal offense that shouldn't be allowed.
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Maybe not, though how hard is it to remotely poll a Windows PC to find out which OS version it's running? Especially if it visits a website you're running, or a website whose operator allows you access to user data?
Re: 42.76 percent (Score:2)
no credibility
They had a number, they divided by another number and gave the result to two superfluous decimal places.
You're such a cynic.
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If they're not quoting which "average" (mean, median, or mode) they're using, and a confidence interval, the data has probably been through the hands of someone statistically illiterate, or dishonest - which in itself is enough to suspect anything beyond the first significant digit.
Remember that your variance and significance of your results varies as the square root of the sample size. So to honestly get
Re: Ban PCs that have hard drives (Score:2)
*without an SSD I mean.
Some SSDs are slower for writing than HDDs (Score:2)
"Well technically..."
If all new computers were required to boot from solid-state storage, you won't necessarily end up with an NVMe or even SATA 6 Gbps SSD as standard equipment. Instead, expect eMMC or microSD soldered to the mainboard. Though these can prove faster for seeking and reading than a spinning-platter HDD, bulk writing can be slower on an inexpensive MMC/SD, especially once it starts to fill up.
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We already know what manufacturers do when they want to put cheap and slow storage on a laptop, they just use a SATA M.2 drive. There are copious examples in the wild. For the ODM, part of the appeal is that no special driver is required, so they don't have to spend any money dealing with a driver at all (since the included one will do.)