Windows 11 Runs on Fewer Than 1 in 6 PCs (theregister.com) 265
Much of the Windows world has yet to adopt Microsoft's latest desktop operating system more than a year after it launched, according to figures for October collated by Statcounter. From a report: Just 15.44 percent of PCs across the globe have installed Windows 11, meaning it gained 1.83 percentage points in a month. This compares to the 71.29 percent running Windows 10, which fell marginally from 71.88 percent in September. Windows 7 is still hanging on with a tenuous grip, in third place with 9.61 percent, Windows 8.1 in fourth with 2.45 percent, plain old Windows 8 with 0.69 percent, and bless its heart, Windows XP with 0.39 percent because of your extended family. In total, Windows has almost 76 percent of the global desktop OS market followed by OS X with 15.7 percent and Linux with 2.6 percent. Android comprised 42.37 percent of total operating system market share, with Windows trailing on 30.11 percent, iOS on 17.6 percent, OS X on 6.24 percent, and Linux on 1.04 percent.
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TPM is a huge reason
When you require hardware signatures to save *subscription* operating systems from piracy, you're doing something wrong.
Re:it's a skip addition (Score:5, Insightful)
At least for me, it's not a "skip edition", in that it doesn't perform badly like Vista or whose UI took a massive usability hit like Windows 8. It's just that there's no real reason I can see to get Windows 11 unless you're buying a new PC like I did, or are unusually sensitive to some minor changes in the UI. Between that and the hardware requirements which excludes a lot of relatively modern PCs, there's no real surprise it's got fairly modest adoption numbers. But it'll slowly gobble up more and more marketshare over the next few years, like most Windows OSes do. Well except for Windows 8, which many people tried and immediately reinstalled Windows 7, or just avoided altogether..
Also, although MS gets disparaged for this, I consider it a very positive thing that there aren't any radical changes in 11. The last radical UI change was Windows 8, which was absolutely atrocious to use for traditional desktops without a touchscreen. I got used to 11 in fairly short order, and it feels pretty comfortable now.
Re:it's a skip addition (Score:5, Funny)
"They could just keep selling Windows 7, patched and updated to fix bugs and support newer hardware, and everyone would be fine with that."
They do, it's called Windows 11.
Except it isn't... (Score:5, Insightful)
But it doesn't. Windows 11 requires laptops to have webcams, and all machines to have a comparatively recent CPU, for no reason other than "because we say so."
Re:Except it isn't... (Score:5, Informative)
Windows 11 doesn't require laptops to have webcams. It requires, from a licensing perspective, OEMs to put webcams on new laptop designs going forward if they wish to ship with Windows 11. If you purchase Windows 11, it will and will continue to install just fine on a laptop that doesn't have a webcam.
Thanks for playing.
Re:Except it isn't... (Score:5, Insightful)
You just encapsulated one of the worst aspects of new software: writing sloppy framework laden shit and using more powerful hardware to cover the crap you call modern coding.
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"They could just keep selling Windows 7, patched and updated to fix bugs and support newer hardware, and everyone would be fine with that."
They do, it's called Windows 11.
Wrong answer. Windows 11 is significantly different, the entire UI is different, and 99% of the difference is stupid and pointless -- literally just changing things for the sake of change.
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Actually, Windows 8 was better in many ways, but the horrid UI distracted a lot of people. It had smaller RAM usage on the same machine as Windows 7, and faster boot up times, even doing a full boot rather than it's hybrid kernel-only hibernation. Windows 7 wasn't all its fans claim either, I did not like the UI there and prefer more minimalism. But at the same time, they could have put the improvements from Windows 8 into Windows 7 if they had wanted to, although some of them were large enough that they d
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OpenBSD isn't 'needed' for security by a longshot.
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inadvisable to advertise your lack of technical acumen like that
Re:it's a skip addition (Score:4, Funny)
This is no true. Windows 10/11 is great (11 is just a service pack update to 10). It's easily the best consumer level OS today. That's saying a lot because I definitely remember when Windows seemed like it would perpetually always be years and years behind OSX and Linux.
Now, Apple barely cares about developing OSX and Linux hasn't improved much on the consumer side since 2010.
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An OS that tracks a user can't be considered "the best consumer level OS today".
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But windows 11 is also badly behind windows 10 in terms of usability(using 11 at work). And windows 10 is badly behind windows 7 and only a bit better than windows 8.
I use/troubleshoot/configure all of those except win 8 at least a few times a month.
As for MacOS 13: it is definitely badly behind win 7, slightly behind win 10, and a bit better than win 11.
Re:it's a skip addition (Score:5, Insightful)
The control panel thing is one issue.
The new versions have do not have all the functionality of the old ones and the need to more and more launch the old version tool from win+r as the settings app does not contain any way to do things.
A simple example is any advanced user setting:
In win 7 about : control panel->users/groups->advanced
In win 10: you have to remember that the command is: lusrmgr.msc
If Microsoft wants people to go over to use the settings, they should make it as powerful as the old tools and not only 10% as powerful.
Other things in windows 10 are the "Opps we lost all our open windows and tabs overnight" thing..
And the search not finding local files, instead returning random bing results that have nothing to do with the search..
Then we have the tablet features like snapping of windows being on by default in a desktop win 10.
Then we have the difficulty of making local users with the push to use Microsoft account.
Then we have all the silly "attention needed" in windows 10... Like currently the win 10 computer suggests that I log in to onedrive to back up my desktop and documents when I am logged in to onedrive with the backup set up..
Windows 10 showing some things in languages based on you location not your language setting.
And many more things like that. Most are as a single thing not a big issue but dozens or hundreds of small things like that and the total is MUCH worse.
I am not saying that everything about win10 is worse than win7. Things like printer adding is a lot more reliable in win 10 and so on. But the balance is clear.
Re:it's a skip addition (Score:5, Insightful)
This is no true. Windows 10/11 is great (11 is just a service pack update to 10). It's easily the best consumer level OS today. That's saying a lot because I definitely remember when Windows seemed like it would perpetually always be years and years behind OSX and Linux.
Now, Apple barely cares about developing OSX and Linux hasn't improved much on the consumer side since 2010.
Christ, were you paid to say that? Moving all manner of controls around and killing the muscle memory that we cultivated on W1, is nothing more than a service pack?
Microsoft is still stuck in the concept that th most important thing the only reason a computer exists it to run an operating system.
In fact, the most important thing on a computer is the programs that people use to do their work.
The purpose of an operating system is twofold. To start the computer, enable programs to work, and then get the hell out of the way.
And Microsoft fails utterly. It's not like W11 won't work. It's just that it gets in the way.
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Microsoft fails utterly. Wrong. Is there any chance anyone can speak accurately? How about you. I want to apologize to you for Microsoft. While they fill swimming pools with money from their "utter failures," I'll send you some money so you can dry your tears.
As long as thy have people like you who will accept anything they do and prance around like a little cockawhoop, braying about the installed user base, as if eating shit is great - 5 billion flys can't be wrong, My tears are for you ultra fanboi, you suffer from Stockholm syndrome, but at least you love the boning you are getting.
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Even if Windows 11 is "the best consumer level OS today" I still don't like it. I don't like the way it spies on me, uses dark UI patterns to make it hard to turn most of the spying off and impossible to turn it all off, advertises at me (with similar difficulties turning that off), and pushes me around. I also don't like the hefty price tag for a license, nor its lack of support for some of my old hardware.
Linux, by comparison, is free, runs on all my old hardware, does not spy on me, does not advertise
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Linux hasn't improved much on the consumer side since 2010.
Perhaps you haven't looked at it through KDE-glasses. I switched over to Linux (KDE Neon) full-time earlier this year and it has been fantastic. Much, much better than when I tried to do this about 5 years ago.
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In some ways yes, Microsoft has a split personality where one half is actively working against its customers and the other half try to do good things. For instance, Window 10/11 have WSL with a a great thing for developers, and even more so now that most development work is no longer Windows-only desktop applications. The new Terminal is great, only about 20 years late to update the aging console. But simultaneously there are bizarre things going on that just make no sense for the enterprise, the insist
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The sad thing is that your joke is actually true.
Linux desktops have been trying for years, and never took off until Google replaced the desktop part with a web browser and called it ChromeOS.
MacOS has its fans but over the decades hasn't made much progress, probably because it doesn't integrate well into business networks.
Which leaves us with Windows. The worst, except for all the other ones. I haven't used 11 but it seems like they haven't fixed a lot of basic stuff that was broken in 10, like Windows Sea
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What update is that? Windows 11 still has the Control Panel - it's just not directly linked from the main menu. And it still has settings you can't access anywhere else. This is about the slowest rollout of a replacement feature Microsoft has ever done.
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0 PC's Here (Score:2)
Windows 11 runs on 0/11 PC's here
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Statistics are no substitute for judgment. - Henry Clay
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My Windows 10 system (the only computer I have with MS's malware and only used for one thing... video editing) keeps threatening to up upgrade itself to Windows 11 on a regular basis. Fortunately I've caught it just in time but I have friends who've left their PC on (with unsaved data), only to come back and find that the system as updated itself without expressed permission -- and they've lost their unsaved work in the process.
I know that I have had my Windows system "update and restart" while in the midd
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My Windows 10 system (the only computer I have with MS's malware and only used for one thing... video editing) keeps threatening to up upgrade itself to Windows 11 on a regular basis. Fortunately I've caught it just in time but I have friends who've left their PC on (with unsaved data), only to come back and find that the system as updated itself without expressed permission -- and they've lost their unsaved work in the process.
I know that I have had my Windows system "update and restart" while in the middle of an unattended total system backup as well. Who the hell writes an OS that will interrupt a mission-critcal task such as a backup to update and reboot itself?????
While I agree that this is really terrible, shitty behavior that shouldn't exist, you *CAN* prevent it from happening, and it is not terribly difficult. If I can figure it out, anyone can.
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While I agree that this is really terrible, shitty behavior that shouldn't exist, you *CAN* prevent it from happening, and it is not terribly difficult. If I can figure it out, anyone can
Nope. I've tried all the registry hacks and things I can find online to disable the feature-updates and version-updates but nothing works for long. When a security update comes along it seems to reset those registry entries and bingo... it starts doing its own thing automatically again.
It's like playing whackamole.
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The problem is that you can only stop it from happening for a brief moment. I had 10 PRO on a workstation, turned off all the automated shit, and somehow, miraculously, it kept getting turned back on seemingly at random. Seems the only way to TRULY lock it down is to keep it off the network entirely, which is really shitty for a workstation in 2022.
I've found 11 isn't that much different from 10 other than the "change for the sake of change" UI updates. Well, that's after turning off S mode, upgrading to PR
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Just disable the TPM functionality in the EFI settings. But make sure you apply all firmware updates first in case one of those flips the setting. Then you are "ineligible" for Windows 11 and you won't have to worry about an update.
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Who the hell writes an OS that will interrupt a mission-critcal task such as a backup to update and reboot itself?????
Someone who suspects that the OS they wrote is so insecure that, if left unpatched for long enough to complete a backup, it might be taken over by black hats.
And this 37 years after it was released, and 29 years after it was relaunched with a cosmetic user interface on top of a clone of VMS - a proper OS.
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I got the Pro version and it doens't do that, you can delay your updates for quite some time. I got Windows 8 pro for $14.95, then upgraded eventually to Windows 10 (so that I could support my mother's computer over the phone I needed to have something similar in style to where she says "the blob in the corner" I would understand what she meant). Last month I upgraded to Widnows 11 on a new computer, because Windows 11 is what came with it (building my own from scratch it painful and more expensive). The
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Windows 11 runs on 0/11 PC's here
Same. While I'm not sure about the benefit of "upgrading" from Windows 10 to 11, I'd be willing to do so, but none of my PCs meet the hardware "requirements" Microsoft has (arbitrarily) imposed. All my systems are too old CPU-wise and don't have TPMs so I can't put a supported install of Windows 11 on either of my 2 physical Windows systems or the VM on my Linux system.
From what I've read, they *could* run Windows 11, but they wouldn't receive updates, etc... so what's the point? I'm not spending $$$
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It's not so much the age of the cpu but the tpm support. I have one of the few laptop sku's in my processor generation which didn't include tpm, so while it outperforms almost all the others It's not eligible for win 11.
Thanks. I was a little overly general. My Dell T110 -- with a Xeon X3470 and 32GB ECC RAM, running Ubuntu 18.04 -- actually has a TPM but it's version 1.2. Windows 11 "requires" TPM 2.0 or higher.
It was never intended for every computer to run 11 (Score:5, Insightful)
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For the iPhone, I'd imagine that most of the ones still in use are running iOS 15 or 16 right now. iOS 16 offers backward compatibility all the way back to the iPhone 8, and iOS 15 offers support for the iPhone 6S or newer.
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Most iDevices are running "iOS 16". Meaning, sure, if you go to your "about this phone" it will say "iOS 16", but the newest features of iOS 16 aren't being ported to older phones.
Frankly, that's okay. There really hasn't been all that much developed in phone OS's in the past 5 years anyway that is really a new killer feature. All the significant advances have been on the hardware side.
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Well, you also don't want all those features clogging your phone and making it slow. There have been numerous lawsuits wher
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2 years and 11 months - can't you just round it to 3?
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It works good, but uses more RAM. Honestly, a pretty nice version from my perspective.
Yea, the point of Windows 11 is to push you (Score:2)
fully in to where you don't own or control anything, and they want your computer to be a phone - i.e. a completely walled garden from which they can extract rent, like Apple. Way to inadvertently point out the main issue.
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Right, but Microsoft no doubt also intended that people would buy new computers that could run it, so they could sell them a new version of Windows. This is of course not happening, because of the stupid economy.
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With Windows 7 it was partially true too, but they pre-installed Widnows 7 on a ton of cheap PCs that really were too small for it and didn't meet the minimum requirements. It was getting a bad name for awhile because of that, with defenders of Windows XP claiming they'd never upgrade...
Unsupported CPU (Score:2, Interesting)
I have a laptop that has been out of warranty for about a year with a Ryzen 2200u and it is not supported by the OS.
Windows 11 isn't THAT bad, really (Score:2)
I just got a new laptop with Windows 11, and it's honestly no worse to use than Windows 10. Most of the same application and desktop shortcuts that worked in Windows 10 still work.
Yes, the constant advertising for things like OneDrive, Edge, and Office 365 are annoying. That said, most of that same garbage was backported to Windows 10 in the most recent feature updates.
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yeah it's totally fine
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im a c++ programmer. I spend lots of time in terminals, in debuggers, etc.
but you wierdos are fucking dramatic. windows 11 is fine. it does not kick you in the dick unless you have such a hardon for any vendor hate such that you find ways of making it kick you in the dick. or to put it another way, I love Linux and use it a lot, and it also kicks me in the dick all the time. There isn't an OS on the planet that doesn't
Re:Windows 11 isn't THAT bad, really (Score:5, Insightful)
To me the big frustration with Windows is that as an interface it peaked in 7 just before they killed desktop gadgets for security reasons, and ever since then they've made performance improvements yes, but the UI has only gotten worse. If they could just not ruin things, that would be great. This doesn't make Microsoft unique, everything but KDE seems to have gotten worse or at best stagnated. Sometimes stagnant is what you want, but I can't remember ever wanting a UI to go to crap.
Iâ(TM)m running Windows 3.1 (Score:2)
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Iâ(TM)ve told Microsoft multiple times to add my % to their list.
Apparently I& you're #226 using to post this % message. :-)
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So Windows 3.1 is what's inserting the ’ in UTF-8 in your post? Maybe Microsoft can't hear you because your message was sent from your iPhone.
Oh no (Score:2)
Anyways
Windows 10 was supposed to be the last Windows (Score:2)
And it should have been.
MS should have just called Windows 11 "Windows" and not pretended it was all that big of an update. Then everyone would have installed it.
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And it should have been.
MS should have just called Windows 11 "Windows" and not pretended it was all that big of an update. Then everyone would have installed it.
I think it's more a case of people *can't* install Windows 11 because their current PCs don't meet the arbitrary and, apparently, unnecessary hardware requirements -- like latest CPU and TPM 2.0. (I have 5 PCs and only the Dell T110 has a TPM and it's version 1.2 -- and that system has a Xeon CPU and 32GB of ECC RAM. It's running Linux though -- really well, I might add.)
Technically, it seems that most older PCs could run Windows 11, with a few hacks to bypass the install checks, but MS won't support the
Re:Windows 10 was supposed to be the last Windows (Score:5, Interesting)
And it should have been.
MS should have just called Windows 11 "Windows" and not pretended it was all that big of an update. Then everyone would have installed it.
I think it's more a case of people *can't* install Windows 11 because their current PCs don't meet the arbitrary and, apparently, unnecessary hardware requirements -- like latest CPU and TPM 2.0. (I have 5 PCs and only the Dell T110 has a TPM and it's version 1.2 -- and that system has a Xeon CPU and 32GB of ECC RAM. It's running Linux though -- really well, I might add.)
Technically, it seems that most older PCs could run Windows 11, with a few hacks to bypass the install checks, but MS won't support them with updates, etc... So the only way to "upgrade" would be to spend $$$ on a new(er) system. I know I'm not doing that.
I suspect MS set the upgrade requirements at the behest of OEMs, who howled angrily when MS basically decided to give Win10 away for free, thus bypassing the new hardware upgrade cycle for much of the non-business public. I suspect most people that had been running Windows 7 found that 10 ran just fine on their current machines and had no desire to spend money on a new computer, when their current one ran as they liked and had Microsoft's latest and greatest for free. I'd be willing to bet money that you'll never again see MS issue a new OS that will run on PC's up to 10 years old the way Win10 did, and that MS will continue to set arbitrary limits on what hardware can be upgraded. Future Windows will be "free upgrades" only if your hardware is less than 2 years old or so.
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Good points. I hadn't considered the hardware OEM angle, but make sense.
I'd be willing to bet money that you'll never again see MS issue a new OS that will run on PC's up to 10 years old the way Win10 did, and that MS will continue to set arbitrary limits on what hardware can be upgraded. Future Windows will be "free upgrades" only if your hardware is less than 2 years old or so.
Well, I won't see that 'cause I'm betting all my systems going forward will be running Linux or BSD ... :-)
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Personally, I would rather a computer or phone just NOT update at all (except security updates of course). Just build the best system you can with all the features it's gonna have and sell that thing. Apple kind of broke that with iOS by pushing the update for free to every phone existing iPhone. This was super cool the first time it happened on my iPhone 3G, then the second time they did that their update bricked the phone. I switched to Android after that.
Re: Windows 10 was supposed to be the last Windows (Score:2)
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Yes, you could install Win11 on an old clunker but it will be unusably slow.
They all run Windows 10 acceptably for what I do, general personal and light business applications --- browsing, email, editing (document, spreadsheets, cards and images w/GIMP), etc... I'm not a gamer. Would Windows 11 really impose that much more on the HW?
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Re:Windows 10 was supposed to be the last Windows (Score:5, Informative)
The rumor about unsupported systems not receiving updates was based on an unsubstantiated click-bait article from almost a year ago. Unfortunately, people like you who have probably never even tried running Win11 on an unsupported system decided to take it as gospel since it aligned with your anti-windows bias.
It's actually based on articles from Microsoft, like Installing Windows 11 on devices that don't meet minimum system requirements [microsoft.com]:
Devices that do not meet these system requirements will no longer be guaranteed to receive updates, including but not limited to security updates.
The following disclaimer applies if you install Windows 11 on a device that doesn't meet the minimum system requirements:
This PC doesn't meet the minimum system requirements for running Windows 11 - these requirements help ensure a more reliable and higher quality experience. Installing Windows 11 on this PC is not recommended and may result in compatibility issues. If you proceed with installing Windows 11, your PC will no longer be supported and won't be entitled to receive updates. Damages to your PC due to lack of compatibility aren't covered under the manufacturer warranty.
So, you're wrong. You might be getting updates now, but that's not a given going forward.
Many other articles note that Microsoft says you *can* install Windows 11 on non-compliant hardware (as I noted), but those systems will be not be officially supported.
Windows 11 broke the taskbar. (Score:5, Interesting)
In my opinion the taskbar is the single most important element of the desktop user experience. I'm not going to repeat my rant from 9 months ago on why I think Win11 cemented its status as a useless screen real estate hog (you can read it at https://slashdot.org/comments.... [slashdot.org] ).
As far as I can see none of these issues have been addressed in any recent update, so it looks like I'm sticking with Win10 for as long as possible.
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" so it looks like I'm sticking with Win10 for as long as possible"
Resistance is futile, prepare to be assimilated!
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I absolutely agree, and so would most technical people. But that doesn't account for the other 4.9 out of the 5 out of 6 PCs that don't run Windows 11.
Most people don't make active decisions on the usability of their OS. They get an update, whine for 30 seconds that the task bar is centered and move on without ever realising what they are missing. Remember Microsoft have the telemetry. They pushed a taskbar out lacking features because telemetry told them that most people don't actually use features.
Yeah Wi
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so it looks like I'm sticking with Win10 for as long as possible.
Have you started planning your move away from Windows entirely?
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What do you mean? I love that there's hidden registry hacks for resetting the size of the taskbar to something reasonable...
...that then makes the clock half-unreadable because it cuts of the bottom line with the date.
NAILED IT! TOTALLY NAILED IT!
MANUFACTURED OUTRAGE (Score:2)
Apparently not just for politics anymore.
There is no way Linux is just 1% of total OS (Score:2)
Nevermind that Android is Linux. Linux is on most home routers and lots of IoT-devices, IP cameras, etc. And I'm supposed to believe that people have 30 times as many Windows PCs?
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It's clearly stated that they're discussing desktop operating systems.
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Android is the leading desktop OS? Please explain this excerpt: "Windows has almost 76 percent of the global desktop OS market [...] Android comprised 42.37 percent of total operating system market share". Notice that one is "global desktop OS market" and the other is "total operating system market". What they probably mean though is operating systems which are used to browse the web, specifically web sites which collect user agent data for them, or "desktop and mobile". Large parts of the internet run on L
Doesn't help their update tool stops many upgrades (Score:2, Informative)
We have several pretty decent laptops and desktops in our house running 10, oddly the 11 update tool tells us our machines can't be updated -- so, there you go, I'm not going to battle with it. 10 is fine for us anyway, so thanks MS.
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Windows 11 Blights Fewer Than 1 in 6 PCs (Score:2)
There, FTFY.
Irrelevant metric (Score:2)
In the past when upgrades didn't require an insanely recent minimum system configuration the numbers of PC running an OS actually reflected whether people wanted to use the OS. Nowadays it more reflects that no one would buy a new PC just for an OS upgrade.
I frankly don't care about Windows 11 vs 10. Yeah taskbar is shit, but otherwise it's just fine. I upgraded the PCs that could run it in the house. All one of them. Funny enough, we have 6 PCs in the house.
Why would people downgrade to Windows 11? (Score:2)
A lot of people need to buy a new computer to get Windows 11. Why would they if their current computer still functions perfectly?
Microsoft should be more considerate towards older hardware.
If MS didn't artificially limit who CAN run it (Score:2)
...then it would probably have larger take-up.
But no, MS decided my Dell XPS 9560 with 32Gb RAM can't run it. No, not because I don't have a TPM - I do - but because the CPU, for some reason that has never been adequately explained, isn't supported. It's more than adequate to run Win11 well, but for some reason they decided that no, they wouldn't support it.
And sure, I can force-install anyway, but then I gotta worry about not getting updates? Not an option.
Nobody is complaining about RAM require
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But no, MS decided my Dell XPS 9560 with 32Gb RAM can't run it. No, not because I don't have a TPM - I do - but because the CPU, for some reason that has never been adequately explained, isn't supported. It's more than adequate to run Win11 well, but for some reason they decided that no, they wouldn't support it.
Same. I have 5 old PCs, 2 currently running Windows 10 just fine and 2 running Ubuntu 18.04 fine, one with a Windows 10 VM that runs fine. None meet the hardware requirements for Windows 11 -- not even the Dell T110 with Xeon X3470 and 32 GB ECC RAM or ASRock Z77 system with i7-3770 and 32 GB RAM -- both currently running Linux. The 2 Windows 10 systems are a Dell XPS 420 and Inspiron 530. Ya, they're all *really* old, but all work well and run things fine for what I need. (I inherited them from friends
Re:If MS didn't artificially limit who CAN run it (Score:5, Informative)
The reason for the CPU restrictions is the Windows 11 core isolation feature, which uses hypervisor features to protect the memory of key processes.
This feature relies on mode-based execution control hardware features to provide acceptable performance. While there is a software-based fallback, the overall hit on performance can so bad that they didn't officially support CPUs that don't support MBEC and related virtualization features.
Of course, there was a workaround for upgrading Win10 on unsupported machines, but they made it clear that it was for power users only as the performance hit could be major.
No idea (Score:2)
It a tug of war between MSFT and OEMs (Score:2)
Every major version of Windows has a constituency that drives it's reason for being. In most years new PC OEMs are pushing Microsoft to issue a new Windows as a way to push new PCs and create the impression their old one is obsolete. Win 10 was a bit of an exception as Microsoft worked to try to make as much old hardware viable so gather up that huge existing Win 7 (and smaller Win 8.x) install base by making upgrades doable and giving better perf than those old OSes. And Microsoft was still trying conver
When you are a monopoly (Score:2)
correcting "total numbers" (Score:2)
> Android comprised 42.37 percent of total operating system market share, with Windows trailing on 30.11 percent, iOS on 17.6 percent, OS X on 6.24 percent, and Linux on 1.04 percent.
So basically LINUX has 44.10 percent of the total OS share :)
Or, to put it another way... (Score:2)
In one year since release, Windows 11 has seen it's market share become 5 times greater than linux has managed to achieve. Frankly, almost 16% of the market seems pretty good, since there are tons of organizations comprising vast numbers of PCs that are not yet ready to make the jump.
Artificial Obsolescence (Score:2)
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Can't wait for the E-waste mountain (Score:2)
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I can't wait either, an event like that is often where I get my PCs. I got a Gateway dual athlon 64 running Vista for $25 a while back, for example. It ran Linux nicely.
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That's good news (Score:2)
So it's less than 20% chance that you become the victim of the same drive-by infection that turned Win7 machines into Win10 machines.
10 is the new 7 (Score:2)
I upgraded an old laptop from 7 to 10 recently. It's actually pretty nice...bootup is significantly faster, and it has support for modern features that W7 simply lacks. One example is emojis...I don't use them but many people do, and I would rather see them than unicode character squares. The support for SSD's is nice as well.
The telemetry stuff isn't that bad and is well understood and easily disabled at this point. Installing openshell, turning off a ton of shit and just in general configuring it only too
Re:it'll never beat 10, or linux (Score:5, Informative)
One of my friends was just talking about how much he likes his steam deck, and I responded by saying how much I enjoyed all the dividends it's paying in Proton. That thing has immensely magnified the number of people motivated to figure out how to get Windows games to work properly on on Linux, both commercially and among the users.
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Ah, that makes me smile. Brings me back. :)
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Vista was a misstep, but people who simply ignored it were able to upgrade their machines that wouldn't run it properly anyway to Windows 7 in many cases — it was tolerable on systems down to 512MB, at least in earlier service versions.
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