'The Arc Browser is the Chrome Replacement I've Been Waiting For' (theverge.com) 98
The Browser Company's Chromium-based Arc browser "isn't perfect, and it takes some getting used to," writes the Verge. "But it's full of big new ideas about how we should interact with the web — and it's right about most of them."
Arc wants to be the web's operating system. So it built a bunch of tools that make it easier to control apps and content, turned tabs and bookmarks into something more like an app launcher, and built a few platform-wide apps of its own. The app is much more opinionated and much more complicated than your average browser with its row of same-y tabs at the top of the screen. Another way to think about it is that Arc treats the web the way TikTok treats video: not as a fixed thing for you to consume but as a set of endlessly remixable components for you to pull apart, play with, and use to create something of your own. Want something to look better or have an idea for what to do with it? Go for it.
This is a fun moment in the web browser industry. After more than a decade of total Chrome dominance, users are looking elsewhere for more features, more privacy, and better UI. Vivaldi has some really clever features; SigmaOS is also betting on browsers as operating systems; Brave has smart ideas about privacy; even Edge and Firefox are getting better fast. But Arc is the biggest swing of them all: an attempt to not just improve the browser but reinvent it entirely....
Right now, Arc is only available for the Mac, but the company has said it's also working on Windows and mobile versions, both due next year. It's still in a waitlisted beta and is still very much a beta app, with some basic features missing, other features still in flux, and a few deeply annoying bugs. But Arc's big ideas are the right ones. I don't know if The Browser Company is poised to take on giants and win the next generation of the browser wars, but I'd bet that the future of browsers looks a lot like Arc....
In a way, Arc is more like ChromeOS than Chrome. It tries to expand the browser to become the only app you need because, in a world where all your apps are web apps and all your files are URLs, who really needs more than a browser?
The article describes Arc as a power user tool with vertical sidebar combining bookmarks, tabs, and apps. (And sets of these can apparently be combined into different "spaces".) These are enhanced with a hefty set of keyboard shortcuts (including tab searching), along with built-in media controls for Twitch/Spotify/Google Meet (as well as a picture-in-picture mode).
BR. Arc even has a shareable, collaborative whiteboard app "Easel". And it also offers powerful features like the ability to rewrite how your browser displays any site's CSS. ("I have one that removes the Trending sidebar from Twitter and another that cleans up my Gmail page.")
This is a fun moment in the web browser industry. After more than a decade of total Chrome dominance, users are looking elsewhere for more features, more privacy, and better UI. Vivaldi has some really clever features; SigmaOS is also betting on browsers as operating systems; Brave has smart ideas about privacy; even Edge and Firefox are getting better fast. But Arc is the biggest swing of them all: an attempt to not just improve the browser but reinvent it entirely....
Right now, Arc is only available for the Mac, but the company has said it's also working on Windows and mobile versions, both due next year. It's still in a waitlisted beta and is still very much a beta app, with some basic features missing, other features still in flux, and a few deeply annoying bugs. But Arc's big ideas are the right ones. I don't know if The Browser Company is poised to take on giants and win the next generation of the browser wars, but I'd bet that the future of browsers looks a lot like Arc....
In a way, Arc is more like ChromeOS than Chrome. It tries to expand the browser to become the only app you need because, in a world where all your apps are web apps and all your files are URLs, who really needs more than a browser?
The article describes Arc as a power user tool with vertical sidebar combining bookmarks, tabs, and apps. (And sets of these can apparently be combined into different "spaces".) These are enhanced with a hefty set of keyboard shortcuts (including tab searching), along with built-in media controls for Twitch/Spotify/Google Meet (as well as a picture-in-picture mode).
BR. Arc even has a shareable, collaborative whiteboard app "Easel". And it also offers powerful features like the ability to rewrite how your browser displays any site's CSS. ("I have one that removes the Trending sidebar from Twitter and another that cleans up my Gmail page.")
So, a vertical sidebar (Score:1)
But, hey, that button bar is vertical. Vertical I say! Brave new world, man!
MY internet is more than http(s) (Score:2, Insightful)
In a way, Arc is more like ChromeOS than Chrome. It tries to expand the browser to become the only app you need because, in a world where all your apps are web apps and all your files are URLs, who really needs more than a browser?
Said every tool thats a hammer. Good thing cli isnt going away anytime soon.
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And the ability to script.. things which only programmers will ever use.!
So, just because not everyone can or will utilize a feature, that feature shouldn't be included?
Re:So, a vertical sidebar (Score:4, Insightful)
And the ability to script.. things which only programmers will ever use.!
So, just because not everyone can or will utilize a feature, that feature shouldn't be included?
One word: Pocket
Raise your hand if you've disabled that in FF.
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And the ability to script.. things which only programmers will ever use.!
So, just because not everyone can or will utilize a feature, that feature shouldn't be included?
One word: Pocket
Raise your hand if you've disabled that in FF.
It doesn't matter if you or I have disabled it, I'm sure there are some that use and enjoy it.
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It doesn't matter if you or I have disabled it, I'm sure there are some that use and enjoy it.
Sure, that's what extensions are for.
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It doesn't matter if you or I have disabled it, I'm sure there are some that use and enjoy it.
Sure, that's what extensions are for.
But, according to the OP, scripting, which is all an extension is, is only used by programmers, so probably doesn't need to be included in FF.
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No, the scripting they are talking about is not just javascript or extension of the browser, it's the ability to script more stuff on top of the browser. And that functionality isn't in Firefox, it's in extensions. (Same for Chrome, for that matter.)
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Have you never used Greasemonkey?
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Many times I needed to be able to affect what is being shown to me - to filter the content, but there were no easy options - I either had to filter the Internet connection or build my own browser/browser extensions.
Anything that allows me to do this easily is very attractive to me and a good reason to switch browsers.
How much money (Score:5, Interesting)
How much VC money is The Browser Company spending on these advertorials?
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maybe "EditorDavid" can answer...
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"maybe "EditorDavid" can answer..."
Maybe he did because you were downmodded for even asking.
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Click on his moderation score and it says his post was only modded *up* "interesting" one time. Yet it's at zero. It started out at -1. None of his other recent posts started at -1 so his karma isn't that bad. Clearly editor intervention. Come on guys, that's just petty, not to mention obvious. Not cool.
Re:How much money (Score:4, Interesting)
way too much. if they were serious they would be investing it into getting an actual product made and, dunno, maybe making it available on a platform where a considerable audience could actually try it out.
instead, they keep flashing ads of something barely anyone can actually see but still calling it the second coming of the lord. so it's just about the noise, their marketing strategy is so dumb that this can't be anything but smoke from the get go.
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> instead, they keep flashing ads of something barely anyone can actually see but still calling it the second coming of the lord. so it's just about the noise, their marketing strategy is so dumb that this can't be anything but smoke from the get go.
Yes, dumb marketing, here's more:
From the article "The Arc browser is the Chrome replacement I’ve been waiting for" ... "Arc is a power user tool. (One Browser Company employee told me that it’s “for people who make spreadsheets to plan vaca
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way too much. if they were serious they would be investing it into getting an actual product made and, dunno, maybe making it available on a platform where a considerable audience could actually try it out.
instead, they keep flashing ads of something barely anyone can actually see but still calling it the second coming of the lord. so it's just about the noise, their marketing strategy is so dumb that this can't be anything but smoke from the get go.
FWIW, I'm reading this article on Arc. I've been using it for... six months? It's a real product and I love a lot of things about it. Easels and notes built into the browser are great. Split view is clutch. "Spaces" instead of new windows + tab groups is a much better organizational system. Allowing use of different (or any combination of) profiles in every space is really awesome. Their UI also makes bookmarks usable for me again.
From the UI and product side, it's great. A really big improvement over Ch
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that is very informative and doesn't sound bad at all, thank you.
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And leave it to /. to essentially run an ad - but not link to the download page.
"....do not know the past doomed to repeat it" (Score:5, Informative)
"In a way, Arc is more like ChromeOS than Chrome. It tries to expand the browser to become the only app you need because, in a world where all your apps are web apps and all your files are URLs, who really needs more than a browser?"
Oh lawd, not this junk again. As pushed by IE4 and, hilariously, Mozilla/Netscape. People have forgotten the origins of Firefox's creation. It was one guy's "no sod this, I don't want a browser that tries to be everything. Give me a fast browser only please"-response to Mozilla going the 'your browser is everything' route.
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Arc treats the web the way TikTok treats video
My immediate reaction was: Browsing history to China rather than to Google? I wonder how many of the sites I browse are outside their "Great Wall", hell - even Google may be.
More importantly: it is available for the Mac, they are working on Windows and mobile (does that mean Android?) versions. No Linux version so its irrelevant anyway.
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If I want an all-consuming all-encompassing UI, I'll use emacs.
Re:"....do not know the past doomed to repeat it" (Score:5, Funny)
Now if only emacs had a good text editor...
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Re: "....do not know the past doomed to repeat it" (Score:3)
What this guy said ^^^
Speaking as a sysadmin, I bet we'll love this new browser/app infestor as much as we loved IE6 and all the things it could do.
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As someone who once ran Jolicloud [jolicloud.com] on an EEE701, many lols were loled here at this idea. Even there you definitely wound up having to install non-cloud stuff to get stuff done, and fast. I think for about one version they didn't mix the icons in the launcher, and then they gave that up.
Nobody needs another Chrome skin. What we need is a Firefox fork that goes back to roots. And that's super hard, so understandably, nobody but Pale Moon is trying to give it to us. And they don't have the support they need to
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You had a 701? Props to you. I had a 901.
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Yeah, it finally died and I binned it since a low-end phone kicks its ass now, and the screen was so very tiny. If it'd had a full width display I might have tried to resurrect it. Kept the tiny little camera board though, since it's USB.
Re: "....do not know the past doomed to repeat it" (Score:1)
You might as well say fork webassembly, .net, anything ending with .js,.... The web is progressive and pretentious by policy so any empty space on your screen will get a new language to fill it. Browsers for now are just along for the ride. But it is something watching browsers slowly absorb operating systems. Still waiting to see that explorer style drop down, in the browser for local administration.
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While you're on the money about history, you're not so much about the present. Mozilla turned into a dog. IE4+ were fucking atrocious, and people wanted a barebones browser that simply displayed the web.
But that was then. Back when the web was largely server side generated content with very little dynamic interaction. These days people don't want something barebones. They want something standards compliant. That means building something capable to do things such as run full office suites in their browser, p
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They want something standards compliant.
What "standards"? As I understand it, Google and the other MANGAs hijacked the W3's HTML group and now whatever MANGA says is the standard is.
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Your hateboner for people involved in helping write standards doesn't make the standards any less published standards.
Standards are always whatever a group of people say they are. That's literally how standards work.
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Browser wants to be a new OS... But doesn't have an Android version, so it's just for people who don't do much with their phones.
Maybe one is planned. Get that out the door and I might take a look.
useless (Score:2)
yet another chromium based brother... what's the point ?
Who uses Mac? (Score:1)
So it's a Chrome based web browser that only works on Mac? Who cares? When Manifest V3 is out will Arc go that way too? Right now FireFox and Brave is on every OS including Linux, and you have working ad blocker.
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Opera is also on every OS, and it's amazing for Android. Its text rescale engine is a killer feature that makes nearly all web sites comfortable to read. It also lacks Chrome's various little annoyances. I'd recommend it if you like to read online.
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Indeed. Just keep in mind you need to enable text rescale in the preferences, then pinch to zoom. There is also a "text size for non-mobile sites" option, but based on the name, that only covers some sites.
Re: Who uses Mac? (Score:2)
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also lacks Chrome's various little annoyances
It has them. Along with some new fun Opera bits.
Re:Who uses Mac? (Score:5, Funny)
Some Mac users may spend upward of 40% of their lives suffering because of poor task management and the toy-like design of the Dock. It is said that the madness induced by this grief is a major force driving web adoption, because a tab bar reproduces the elementary functions of a taskbar and therefore provides relief from the brain-damaged design that surrounds them. It is an escape they come to fetishize, and it is the reason they think the web is "easy" to use while everything else is "hard."
In their darkest dreams they are often transported to a magical realm where things are named and listed in a coherent manner, but blinded by their unconscious loyalty to the lich of Steve Jobs, they are forbidden from knowingly returning to the waking world with the dark secrets of the Windows taskbar. In times past those who installed Rosetta so they could use Windows on their Macs went into self-exile, never to return to the increasingly toxic and sandboxed ossified/iOS-ified homeland. Those who stayed were told that these people were actually banished for their sins, or perhaps petrified by the Hand of the God. They are now prisoners, terrified of the dangers that lurk outside their brushed aluminium womb. All that remains for them is to chase half-remembered ghosts of the Dreamland, where information is managed efficiently, windows can be tiled, and the Lost City of NeXT is spoken of with hushed reverence, not only as some hollow, shadowy place from whence the Great Lich returned with immense riches and power in his quest to reclaim the Fruit Throne. They are merely shades of the computer users of the past, who were unafraid to utter profane words like 10 PRINT "HELLO": GOTO 10 and A: before the shrieking black mirrors.
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I don't want to hurt your feelings, but Windows has supported virtual desktops since NT 4. I'm not sure if that was part of the original 1996 release, or if it came in a later service pack, but the API was there, and pretty robust. Windows XP PowerToys provided an official front-end in the form of a taskbar widget in 2001, although LiteStep and other custom shells had been emulating it for a year or two before that with somewhat hacky interfaces; these even worked on Windows 98 by manually showing and hidin
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It's hard to consider this anything other than a copy-pasted troll.
The utility of web pages is the "major force driving web adoption", not some straw man UI shortcoming, and it's hysterical that you think that an alleged MacOS usability issue can possibly drive the design of web browsers industry-wide. Tabbed webpages are useful to users REGARDLESS of the functionality that the windowing environment generally provides, as evidenced by their very existence.
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I would be proud if that post became elevated to the status of copypasta. But I think it's probably a little too esoteric. All that you need to understand is as follows:
Gobbledygook (Score:2)
Re: Gobbledygook (Score:1)
Isn't the cloud the web's operating system? Maybe they want to be the web's midnight commander.....you'll need some type of resource management to be the web's os, who is developing the web's systemd?
Hell no! (Score:5, Insightful)
Arc wants to be the web's operating system.
The web is not an operating system. It was never designed to be such and the people who want it to be such should never be allowed near a piece of technology ever again.
So it built a bunch of tools that make it easier to control apps and content,
You mean like Firefox does? Or with extensions, Firefox does?
turned tabs and bookmarks into something more like an app launcher,
Fuck "apps". It's software or programs you cunt-faced twaddle dick.
and built a few platform-wide apps of its own
See the first item.
The app is much more opinionated and much more complicated than your average browser with its row of same-y tabs at the top of the screen.
Because what is needed is something complicated to use to view a web page. Brilliant. Must be from the same people who keep using the letters "app" to describe software.
You want a successful product? Here's what you need it to do. 1) display a web page. 2) display content ONLY when the user authorizes it. 3) End of story.
I am sick to death of going to web sites and having things fly out, fly over, fly under, shift, rotate, drop down, or in any way get in the way of me trying to see what's on the page. If you don't want me to see what you're trying to display, don't put up the page. Nothing should move or start playing unless I explicitly tell it do so.
You get me a browser which does that I will pay you for it.
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Omg this yes 10000000 times!
"Here's what you need it to do. 1) display a web page. 2) display content ONLY when the user authorizes it. 3) End of story.
I am sick to death of going to web sites and having things fly out, fly over, fly under, shift, rotate, drop down, or in any way get in the way of me trying to see what's on the page. If you don't want me to see what you're trying to display, don't put up the page. Nothing should move or start playing unless I explicitly tell it do so.'
Why do they have to cr
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The web is not an operating system.
The web isn't. The browser is. You missed the apostrophe-s on the end of web in the post. And you can ultimately say what you want, but the browser has been the web's operating system since probably about 5 years prior to the take-up of HTML5. I mean what is an operating system?
- A piece of software that provides storage for software running on it?
- A piece of software that executes other software and provides framework for how it renders?
- A piece of software that gives access to hardware such as cameras a
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"But objectively the browser is already an OS and has been for a long time. That ship has sailed."
This is nothing more than an argument over the meaning of terms, and a crappy one at that.
"The web" is a collection of endpoints that support a common set of communication protocols. Originally, those protocols were document-oriented, now they are more UI-oriented. The endpoints use this protocol to present information and interactions to users.
Given that browsers run on top of an OS, they are not an OS. The
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This is nothing more than an argument over the meaning of terms, and a crappy one at that.
No it's an argument over the purpose and capabilities of the browser.
A UI mechanism, which is what a web browser is
Errr no, that is insanely ignorant of how modern browsers work. It's a UI mechanism, it provides storage / I/O, it provides APIs to access hardware, runs all manner of interpreted code, provides ability to isolate said code and processes from each other, provides abilities to override, open and close said processes.
All said and done it doesn't matter what you call it. The browser shares more in common with an OS / VM than anything else. It
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So, no, browsers are not the web's OS.
If you expand the definition to include the programs I have that do tiny, explicit things then you've diluted the word to meaningless.
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I have programs on my PC which access the internet and are not browsers by any commonly accepted definition of "browser".
Yeah and? I have an Oculus Rift. Got any other non-browser things you want to point to in a discussion about browsers? Let's see who can be the most irrelevant.
So, no, browsers are not the web's OS.
Yeah that's not how logic arguments work.
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As an example, the term "API" was first used back then and it's an acronym for "application programming interface" (note the use of the term "application").
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Software has frequently been called applications [...] since sometime in the 50's or 60's.
TRUE!
and shortened as "app" since sometime in the 50's or 60's
NOT TRUE!
Nobody said "app" until the smartphone era.
I've been programming since 1972, and was a hacker at MIT in the 80s, and have been all over. The first time I heard "app" was in the 80's but it referred to "appetizer" on the restaurant menu, not software. If memory serves, "applet" came first, with Java. Then later came "app". But it still did not refer to "real" programs, just browser-based programs. Note that this is before Javascript. Once Javascript was around, and especially with mobile device
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I assume you remember the phrase "killer app" from the 80's? (google it if not, and that was far from the first usage of the term app).
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I [...] worked at a local software company in the 80's, where the term app was used. I assume you remember the phrase "killer app" from the 80's? (google it if not, and that was far from the first usage of the term app).
The term "killer app" was invented long after the concept (ie. of the need for a operating system or language to have a killer app). It dates no earlier the (late) 80s, but the claim I am refuting is about the 1950s and 1960s. Is there some citation of that actual phrase you can point to as he earliest usage?
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1985 Ashton Tate Framework II Menu - "Apps" - here's the link to a screenshot:
https://www.vocabulary.com/art... [vocabulary.com]
That's actually good information.
The claim I am refuting is about the term being in use in the 35 years prior to your example.
(However, the fact that the menu item says "Apps" in no way suggests that people colloquially said "app". Such as "I need an app", "There is an app", "Where is the app?" "Will you write me an app?". Users of this system may likely have said, "It's under Apps", though.)
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So, because you haven't seen it means that it doesn't exist? .
Pretty much, yes (for computer stuff up back then). So tell me what video game "apps" you were developing in say 1963? (The claim was that "apps" in the 1950s and 1960s.)
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I've been programming since 1972, and was a hacker at MIT in the 80s, and have been all over. The first time I heard "app" was in the 80's but it referred to "appetizer" on the restaurant menu, not software. If memory serves, "applet" came first, with Java.
Your memory does not serve. Mac users in particular were calling applications "Apps" years before Java was invented, probably in part because of type codes [byu.edu] — which power users had to know because you often had to edit them to cope with stupid shit the Macintosh did while interfacing with non-Macintosh computers.
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I've been programming since 1972, and was a hacker at MIT in the 80s, and have been all over. The first time I heard "app" was in the 80's but it referred to "appetizer" on the restaurant menu, not software. If memory serves, "applet" came first, with Java.
Your memory does not serve. Mac users in particular were calling applications "Apps" years before Java was invented, probably in part because of type codes [byu.edu] — which power users had to know because you often had to edit them to cope with stupid shit the Macintosh did while interfacing with non-Macintosh computers.
I edited resource forks on the Mac, but never heard anyone refer to the programs as "apps". In any event you're talking about something post-1984. The claim I am refuting is about the 1950s and 1960s.
Mac only.. (Score:1)
Remind me again what the front end of an Electron app runs. Oh, that's right, Chromium. Just let me fire up Inkscape for some icons that aren't FontAwesone knockoffs, grab a few utility repos from GitHub and I'll whip up a cloudbuilt app that can run on all the major desktop OSs at zero cost to me except a wasted weekend. VCs welcome to give money for office space, Delonghi bean to cup coffee maker (plus supplies, naturally) and a pinball machine. I'll make sure to set it to kiosk mode on launch so it's the
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Yet another joke browser (Score:2)
"Arc wants to be the web's operating system. So it built a bunch of tools that make it easier to control apps and content, turned tabs and bookmarks into something more like an app launcher, and built a few platform-wide apps of its own."
Dear lord, that sounds like Microsoft. Or Google. Awful. Let it never happen.
"Right now, Arc is only available for the Mac"
Now I'm certain it's a bad joke.
It's also commercial. It should die a horrible death. An application like a browser should /never/ be commercial.
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I'd pay money for a browser that actually delivered on all the promises, stayed lean and devoted attention to maintaining technical relevancy and didn't change for the sake of change.
Well don't worry, this won't do any of that, because it's based on Chromium.
Spam (Score:1)
I understand the site needs to make money but can they stop placing paid ads and pretending they are submissions?
nobody wants ANOTHER chrome browser use Firefox.
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Nothing will change because either the editors have financial stake in Dicedot or the owners don't care and have a complete hands off attitude.
The editors know they systematically turned this place to shit and they're laughing at those who object. Eternal summer being what it is very few current Slashdot readers ever read the original. Now it's turned into Yahoodot in every way except page layout.
Keep posting because there are so few who here who have ever seen made Slashdot the great site it no longer is.
Everything this browser does (Score:2)
Ivo, is that you? (Score:2)
Was possible with an XUL extendable browser. That's why I will always keep campaigning for the return of XUL.
Just make sure in your code that all the objects have Destructors of the correct form, or you'll get memory bloat (aka Stay Puft syndrome).
Slashdot mods take ad money (Score:2)
Traditional is fine. (Score:2)
Browsers, traditionally, have mostly just tried to show you the web without getting in your way; they provide tabs and a URL bar and maybe a way to add extensions, but not much more.
And that's what I want from a browser. If I wanted something else, I'd use something else. I use the Web to pay bills, read news and research information for things/projects, etc... -- you know regular stuff.
Maybe I'm an outlier, but I don't keep a bunch of tabs open (I've even disabled session restore in FF), I shutdown FF when I'm not using it, I use FF Containers and often browse in Private Mode -- mainly to ease information isolation and cleanup. I don't need "Easels" as I don't need to "r
Another hard no (Score:3)
The entire web, social media, & software industry is a huge grift now. Zuboff was right about "digital colonization". Here's a few shiny objects for the natives, and by-the-way, you won't mind if we take all the gold, because you don't even recognize it's value.
"Legit" software is now a hair's breadth away from the lies of Cryptocurrencies. People piled into "exchanges" because e-wallets are basically too complicated and abstract for chumps to understand, setup, use. By doing so, they forfeited the key benefits of crypto, like decentralization. Also, they handed over the one thing that you mustn't: the keys.
We've reached a plateau of computing power and utility. People have what they want and need, speed, lots of cheap storage, lots of pixels. I don't know anyone who doesn't have a sufficiency of these things. Most of my clients have 80%+ free hard drive/ssd space, for example.
The industry is out of ideas. You don't need anything you don't already have. So
Chumps love brand new, look at what people will pay Apple thousands for that you can buy for hundreds anywhere else (screens are a good example, 5K vs 4K is imperceptible, except to a few trained professionals).
Designers from all angles are trying to capture you and your data. That's why Microsoft killed Java Virtual Machines. Why let your competitor capture that which you already own?
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The industry is out of ideas. You don't need anything you don't already have. So ..... make up some bullshit lingo, like in the crypto world, an spin it as "brand new".
The information economy was nothing more than a bean counter's wetdream: Taking a public good (information) and creating a metric ton of artificial restrictions gated by paywalls. It was never sustainable to begin with, but because it's so cheap to set up and promised a lot of profits, the ruling classes gladly jumped on board. Now the information that was "worth" anything has been sold multiple times over to everyone and the gatekeepers are running out of people to bilk money from. Hence the push to SaaS
Still Chromium... (Score:2)
Soo... It's another bookmark manager. (Score:2)
Users are looking elsewhere? (Score:2)
Are they really? After a decade of web dominance one thing is clear, users are using what they have and barely anyone is bothering to look elsewhere much less make an actual switch.
If you're going to make a statement saying users are looking elsewhere then it better be backed up by evidence rather than just wishful thinking.
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Translation: new media types stranded on the Mac who have never known the basic comforts of a functioning Windows 95 taskbar continue to be amazed at space-efficient, text-oriented enumeration of their workspace. Incidentally, TabCandy/Panorama (perhaps the first incarnation of this idea) was also mainly championed by Mac users.
I have seen "complaints" by some people about the Dock vs. the Taskbar, and I did not understand it until your post.
Your problem is that the Dock has icons (with floating text above them), rather than just a text label.
I use the Mac, Windows, and a variety of Linux desktops, and I never really noticed the difference. Everybody has some kind of start menu (actually, each system has several launchers built-in), there's some kind of taskbar, and you have Alt-Tab. You can't figure out and deal with more than on
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It is not necessary to scrutinize my habits or preferences. Just read the Verge's advertorial [theverge.com]. There is no explanation for such a product to exist (much less have evangelists) other than that it solves a user interface deficiency that only exists for text-oriented people trapped in an icon-oriented (under)world. The proof is entirely in the pudding.
But if I must confess: when I was an undergrad I used to write alternative desktop environments for Windows in my mother language, VB6. Here [deviantart.com] is a screenshot of o
Let's see (Score:4, Informative)
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Goodbye, Arc. You had no reason to exist.
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Goodbye, Arc. You had no reason to exist.
Sorry, I didn't catch it. Exactly which of those extensions funnels idiot VC money into my bank account?
Pretty sure there is a web3 extension that does something kind of like that.
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Goodbye, Arc. You had no reason to exist.
I don't intend to try Arc anytime soon, but can't resist a little devil's advocate here.
If all or even most those features mattered to me, it might be nice to have them built into the core product, instead of needing to round up a bunch of extensions, with all the usual bit rot and instability of that method.
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If all or even most those features mattered to me, it might be nice to have them built into the core product, instead of needing to round up a bunch of extensions, with all the usual bit rot and instability of that method.
There's also a pretty huge chance that this project will tank, and then you'll have to replace the whole browser...
New Rule: (Score:2)
/. is not allowed to make any more posts about ARC until the thing is released GA and nobody has to register and "wait" to get it.
Right now, I see a lot of buzzwords and a big invitation to be voluntarily spammed, nothing more.
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(and this was all i saw the last time an ARC post happened a month ago...and the month before that...)
Chrom* (Score:3)
>"Chromium-based Arc browser"
Like every single other multiplatform browser that is not Firefox. Yawn. Yet another Google-controlled, essentially closed development cog to further what is becoming the monoculture web.
What might be interesting is an actual third multiplatform browser. One that is open source AND yet community-driven. Waterfox Current is close, but still depends on the whims of Mozilla.
Why it isn't yet the year of the Linux desktop? (Score:1)
Give me 10 guys like this one to write an article about Linux's desktop and GNU/Linux becomes the de-facto desktop in the whole world (regardless of the distro!!!.)
Get in line? (Score:2)
Fucking designers (Score:2)