Samsung Ditches Samsung? New Team Formed for Building Its Own Chipsets (hothardware.com) 12
"Samsung's Mobile Experience (MX) Business has formed a completely new team for designing and developing its own chipsets," reports the Business Standard, citing media reports. "The company has formed an application processor (AP) solution development team within the business."
A similar position already exists with Samsung System LSI, which designs logic chips such as Exynos, which MX uses in its Galaxy phones. According to sources, the MX Business is forming its own identical team either to optimise these Exynos chips for its Galaxy line or, more likely, to entirely develop its own processors in the future, said the report.
Slashdot reader joshuark describes it as "Samsung ditching Samsung." Some context from Hot Hardware: Samsung's fancy phones sold in the U.S. use powerful Qualcomm Snapdragon SoCs that may not always outrun Apple's bespoke processors, but they're pretty darn fast. Overseas, though, Samsung uses its own home-grown Exynos chips, and they don't typically compete as well in terms of performance or efficiency.
It could be for this reason that the company has allegedly formed a new "application processor solution development team." This information comes from Korean tech and electronics site The Elec.... The average smartphone user doesn't obsess much about smartphone speed, but the gap between Apple's finest and even the best Exynos SoCs is a yawning chasm. Rumor has it that the Galaxy S23 will be the first to use Snapdragon processors around the world. If that's true, then Samsung is definitely concerned about performance, and it may well be the case that [team leader] Choi Won-joon wants Samsung's mobile unit to start building its own processors.
A similar position already exists with Samsung System LSI, which designs logic chips such as Exynos, which MX uses in its Galaxy phones. According to sources, the MX Business is forming its own identical team either to optimise these Exynos chips for its Galaxy line or, more likely, to entirely develop its own processors in the future, said the report.
Slashdot reader joshuark describes it as "Samsung ditching Samsung." Some context from Hot Hardware: Samsung's fancy phones sold in the U.S. use powerful Qualcomm Snapdragon SoCs that may not always outrun Apple's bespoke processors, but they're pretty darn fast. Overseas, though, Samsung uses its own home-grown Exynos chips, and they don't typically compete as well in terms of performance or efficiency.
It could be for this reason that the company has allegedly formed a new "application processor solution development team." This information comes from Korean tech and electronics site The Elec.... The average smartphone user doesn't obsess much about smartphone speed, but the gap between Apple's finest and even the best Exynos SoCs is a yawning chasm. Rumor has it that the Galaxy S23 will be the first to use Snapdragon processors around the world. If that's true, then Samsung is definitely concerned about performance, and it may well be the case that [team leader] Choi Won-joon wants Samsung's mobile unit to start building its own processors.
S23 Qualcomm (Score:2)
It is not rumor:
"During their Q4 earnings call (transcript in the source link) Qualcomm CFO Akash Palkhiwala confirmed expectations for a strong second half of the March quarter (Q1) 2023 which likely coincides with the first months of sales for the Galaxy S23 series phones. He also confirmed Qualcomm has moved from a 75% share (of chipsets) in the Galaxy S22 series to a global share - meaning Qualcomm chipsets for all models of the S23 series."
https://www.gsmarena.com/qualc... [gsmarena.com]
CPU is less important nowadays (Score:2)
They ought instead to pump resources into working on totally eliminating the crease from the Galaxy Z Fold. Maybe use LG's stretchable display tech? Foldables are the future, especially if the crease can be eliminated (and the costs can drop to mainstream.) .. not that it isn't important at all.
Note, I said CPU is less important
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Done.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S22 and there's no crease at all.
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Yeah honestly I couldn't give a rat's ass about the CPU in the phone. I have the EU market S22 Ultra with an Exynos and it's fine. Whatever. It can last two day's if I'm not using it constantly and everything runs smoothly. How many geekbenches it gets is like the important metric.
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Samsung ditched their Exynos team (Score:2)
Exynos is nothing but bog standard ARM cores now. At one point, the Exynos line of Arm SoCs were designed in house:
https://www.androidauthority.c... [androidauthority.com]
Mongoose was the last iteration of that product line. Exynos struggles because it uses Samsung's nodes which are inferior to those of TSMC. Qualcomm has gone back to TSMC, leaving a large performance gap between their latest SoCs and Samsung's Exynos. At this point, Exynos is in fourth place behind Apple's A-series, Qualcomm's Snapdragon, and Mediatek's Dime
Still No Team For Fixes? (Score:2)
A fix to the #GSOD [youtube.com] is long due, but @Samsung @SamsungMobile is not giving a thought at all to past customers. That makes sense, past customers won't buy Samsung any more. So they have to find new ones
I care less about chipsets (Score:2)