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Bitcoin Hashrate Drops Nearly 40% as Deadly US Storm Unplugs Miners (yahoo.com) 140

The Bitcoin network hashrate has dropped by more than 38.8% from its peak, as many U.S.-based miners have been forced to switch down their facilities due to deadly blizzards. From a report: Bitcoin hashrate, the level of computing power used for mining and processing transactions, came in at 155.28 exahashes per second on Saturday, down from 253.88 exahashes on Wednesday, according to data from IntoTheBlock. A winter storm has claimed at least 32 lives across the U.S., as of Monday morning in Hong Kong, according to media reports.
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Bitcoin Hashrate Drops Nearly 40% as Deadly US Storm Unplugs Miners

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  • by OrangAsm ( 678078 ) on Monday December 26, 2022 @08:34PM (#63160040)
    The smokin' hash rate is up though.
  • snow cup half full (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymouse Cowtard ( 6211666 ) on Monday December 26, 2022 @08:47PM (#63160082) Homepage
    If not for the power cuts, this could be considered an innovative thermal solution for all those overclocked miners.
    • by OzPeter ( 195038 )

      If not for the power cuts, this could be considered an innovative thermal solution for all those overclocked miners.

      I saw an advertisement video on TicTok this week for a mining rig that was being positioned as a combined heater and a bitcoin miner. I think the ad suggested 1300W of heating power. It was an interesting pitch, but not something I'd ever consider doing, and that's not even considering how the bitcoin price has been dropping in recent times.

      • by fuzzyfuzzyfungus ( 1223518 ) on Monday December 26, 2022 @09:44PM (#63160216) Journal
        Bitcoin is about a degenerate a use case as one can devise; but it is the case that (minus certain power factor related quirks that can become an issue in larger applications) using a computer to generate heat is pretty much the same as using a resistive heater to generate heat; except you get some computation out of it.
        • by OzPeter ( 195038 ) on Monday December 26, 2022 @10:02PM (#63160262)

          Bitcoin is about a degenerate a use case as one can devise; but it is the case that (minus certain power factor related quirks that can become an issue in larger applications) using a computer to generate heat is pretty much the same as using a resistive heater to generate heat; except you get some computation out of it.

          I never said it was a good idea .. lol

        • Re: (Score:2, Offtopic)

          Bitcoin is about a degenerate a use case as one can devise; but it is the case that (minus certain power factor related quirks that can become an issue in larger applications) using a computer to generate heat is pretty much the same as using a resistive heater to generate heat; except you get some computation out of it.

          What bitcoin hashing rate would be required for bitcoin to be able to cope with the volume of transfers that credit cards handle?
          My guess is it'd melt the planet.

      • It would be the same as a resistance heater, with half the efficiency of a gas furnace or a heat pump.

        • by OzPeter ( 195038 )

          It would be the same as a resistance heater, with half the efficiency of a gas furnace or a heat pump.

          I never said it was a good idea .. lol

        • by mysidia ( 191772 )

          with half the efficiency of a gas furnace or a heat pump.
          But near 100% efficiency in regards to the conversion of electricity to heat. You just need a renewable source of electricity (such as Solar) that doesn't come from burning fossils in an inefficient manner to generate.

          • by Bert64 ( 520050 )

            Solar isn't a good option in this case, it tends to be warm when the sun is shining and cold when it's not. Guess when you need heating?

            • by Shaitan ( 22585 )

              Wind, Hydroelectric, etc... he just said a renewable source of electricity. Solar was just an example.

            • by mysidia ( 191772 )

              Solar isn't a good option in this case, it tends to be warm when the sun is shining and cold when it's not.

              Not when there's a massive winter surge coming through.. it tends to become stormy only at the point where cold air mass and a warm air mass first collide. The past few days here have been a perfect example; the sky was completely clear, bright, and sunny, but the temperature stayed well below freezing. Solar would have been fine, but solar power generation is still possible even when the sk

              • Storms tend to bring a lot of wind.

                But there still are times and places where wind and/or solar aren't present, or aren't sufficient to meet current demand, and for that reason, there needs to be sufficient base load capacity. That could be solar or wind IF we had efficient ways of storing that power when they are present, but, since we currently don't, and since it's agreed by nearly everyone that coal should not be used unless absolutely necessary, nuclear fission seems like the best of several imperfect

                • by mysidia ( 191772 )

                  That could be solar or wind IF we had efficient ways of storing that power when they are present

                  That absolutely can be Solar or Wind; and Good enough ways of storing do exist. For example: Pumped hydro. Saltwater lakes already exist.... You just need to dig a pit at a high elevation to create a brand new lake. Same as methods used to create the massive reservoirs used for drinking water, except it doesn't need to be drinkable.
                  Build some long aqueducts and use Solar power to pump seawater up into

          • by jtara ( 133429 )

            So, use renewable energy resources to further heat the planet.

            Music to the ears of Buffolonians.

          • You just need a renewable source of electricity

            No, you need a cheap source of electricity. Whether something is renewable or not doesn't come into the equation on the cost of mining.

            And in any case the renewable angle is stupid. The US grid is interconnected, that means that anyone mining from green energy is keeping a non green power plant somewhere else on, powering a house. This is a zero sum game. The only way that bitcoin mining can be considered green is if it off the grid or connected to an area where transmission capacity prevents that energy be

          • If you buy a single machine, with heating cost it is surely better to run it in your home in the eintet instead of your garden shed.
      • by fazig ( 2909523 )
        It's been a sales pitch for a very long time with that misleading 100% efficiency notion, suggesting to the average person that doesn't understand what efficiency means within this context, that it's as good as it's going to get.

        Been a critic of that entire notion as well for a long time and even some morons here on Slashdot arguing that the 100% is "technically correct". Maybe now that crypto bros are using the same rhetoric more people will realize how fucking stupid raising that point actually is, desp
      • by jtara ( 133429 )

        I briefly tried to mine Bitcoin in like 2010. On some motherboard I got at Fry's, with a honking PC Power & Cooling power supply. (San Diego native company, went there to get the PS.) I got my 5 free Bitcoin (Which old hard drive is the wallet on, I wonder, I wonder... which password-safe software did I stuff the private key in, and what's the password to the password-safe?)

        I thought I was going to add some coin to the free coins I had in the wallet.

        Well, it was summer, and San Diego, and though we hav

        • ... tried to mine Bitcoin in like 2010 ... I got my 5 free Bitcoin

          If you mean you mined 5 blocks back in 2010, that would be 250 free bitcoin, which has a market price of over $4,000,000 today.
          I suggest you spend some serious effort trying to find your bitcoin wallet.
          Think of it as punishing the people who are stupid enough believe in bitcoin by taking their money.

      • by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

        It's not that great, considering tumbling price of bitcoin and the fact that a typical geothermal heat pump will be around 500% efficient for heating even in very cold climates.

        For warmer ones, you don't even need geothermal. You can just do ambient air.

    • Resistive heating has 100% efficiency. In comparison, the typical heat pump yields ~300% peak efficiency (3x heat/cold output per input unit of energy) and the maximum theoretical peak efficiency is ~450%. There are ground-loop heat pumps which yield near ~400% efficiency and these are likely to be the ideal air conditioning solution for humanity in the future.

      An ordinary heat pump uses normal air surrounding its coil external to transfer heat from the source to destination. Air is a good insulator, so this

      • In addition, seasonal variations in air temperature below the freezing point of water and above human body temperature make the atmosphere a poor heat source/sink for air conditioning.

        This makes NO sense at all, a heat pump isn't just a pipe that loops through a wall to the outdoors. There is a compressor.

        For heating, the ambient temperate has to be warmer than the temperatures the coils get to, and I don't know if you've every operated a refrigerator before, but compressors can chill something far below freezing.

        For cooling, the air temp has to be lower than how hot the compressor can make the coils. Again, I don't know if you've ever touched a refrigerator before in your life, but co

  • by quonset ( 4839537 ) on Monday December 26, 2022 @08:52PM (#63160092)

    Only the best, handcrafted bitcoin [imgur.com] will do in these trying times.

    • Hmm, I once optimized a data encoder/decoder by going through the algorithms with graph paper, pencil and eraser. My eventual solution was 10,000 times faster and fitted in the available memory. Someone should try that with Bitcoin!
  • With all the uses of bitcoin how will we survive... Oh wait, never mind... nothing of value was lost.
    • A lower hashrate doesn't mean fewer bitcoins. Well, it does in the short run, but in the long run, the system adapts to the number of miners.

      • A lower hashrate doesn't mean fewer bitcoins. Well, it does in the short run, but in the long run, the system adapts to the number of miners.

        Actually, the network adapts the difficulty in real time. What does potentially change is mining profitability, since there's less people competing for the same pie, your slice gets bigger. Coinwarz.com tracks this sort of stuff [coinwarz.com], and it looks like the economics side has already reached equilibrium. As usual, it's not really profitable to mine BTC unless you've stolen the mining equipment and have access to really cheap electricity.

  • All this cold weather would make the cooling costs less. I guess power outages have taken their toll.

  • Good (Score:4, Insightful)

    by wakeboarder ( 2695839 ) on Monday December 26, 2022 @09:11PM (#63160126)
    Hopefully they never come back online again to senselessly waste energy
    • As opposed to insane trolls on dilapidated tech sites, now ran by trolls?
    • Unplug all the shitcoins and there would be enough electricity for Ukraine.
      • by Shaitan ( 22585 )

        You could probably just burn all the money we've been sending to Ukraine to heat the entire nation through the winter if it weren't all funnelling back to the corrupt interests pushing us to send it there.

  • Imagine the global economy crashing because of a couple day weather event in a local area of a single country. Yeah, solid currency.

    • Despite the brief hashrate reduction, the network still mined blocks with a marginal slowdown.

      You should not let your imagination get the best of you.

      • Imagine if that happened with real currency that people actually depend on. Holiday season, when demand is the highest. Crypto would bring everything to a halt.

        • Did you notice the storm that halted travel and shopping nationwide? The network still produced blocks despite that storm, so it seems like your imagination continues to get the best of you.
    • by Shaitan ( 22585 )

      The bitcoin economy didn't crash. The mining hashrate crashed.

  • What is needed is to have bit miners buying from the nuclear power plants, unless that are needed by the rest of society. At that point, have them cut way back.
  • Canâ(TM)t we just unplug these miners permanently? I mean they will go bankrupt soon anyway, why not force them out now?
    • The shitcoins will not be unplugged, as American politicians do not want to be seen to follow the lead of China.
    • by Shaitan ( 22585 )

      Solution for what? If you unplug them then the 40% of US bitcoin energy consumption they made available when they shut down goes away with them. These miners are what pay for that additional capacity on the grid.

  • Someone clue me in, what does it mean to the world that bitcoin hashrate has dropped? All crypto are purely speculative assets, but is this going to raise or lower the price of bincoin until the hashrate is restored to previous levels? Will that effect be even perceivable given the bitcoin drop in value this year? Or is this going to be something like "bincoin prices up by $1 due to reduced of hashrate but down by $1,000 due to lack of more speculators wanting to buy it"?
  • "Proof of work" cryptocurrencies should be banned outright. Such a sickening waste of energy.
    • by Shaitan ( 22585 )

      Right, everyone should embrace the proof-of-stake ponzi schemes you early adopted instead ;)

      • by DrXym ( 126579 )
        I haven't early adopted anything. But if someone is stupid enough to "invest" in crypto currency it might as well be something which is more energy efficient.
        • by Shaitan ( 22585 )

          I didn't say 'invested' I said adopted. There is a difference between using crypto and investing in it. Investment is for gamblers whereas Bitcoin is a tool. Do you know which disorganized individual who didn't track expenses but sold net loss custom crafts won't have insult added to injury by tacking in the backdoor from the IRS this year? Those who took payment in Bitcoin.

          As for proof of stake, of course it is more energy efficient; it completely skips the fundamental algorithm that provides integrity to

          • by DrXym ( 126579 )
            Thanks for the clarification since I could have sworn I said "I haven't early adopted anything". And your justifications for why proof of stake is somehow inferior are just horseshit posthoc justification for something which has ALWAYS been a ponzi regardless of the form it takes.

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