Tesla Plans Gigafactory In First Mexico Investment

Tesla announced plans to open a gigafactory in Mexico as it pushes to expand its global output. Reuters reports: Mexico on Tuesday said Tesla had chosen the northern border state of Nuevo Leon for a new factory worth more than $5 billion, calling it the "the biggest electric vehicle plant in the world." Tesla will ramp up output at all of its gigafactories, Musk said at an Investor Day event Austin, Texas. The company laid out plans to cut assembly costs by half in future generations of cars and discussed its innovation in managing operations from manufacturing to service.

The plant near the city of Monterrey "will be supplemental to the output of all the other factories," Musk said at the end of the more than 3-hour long presentation, calling it "probably the most significant announcement of the day." Tesla's global capacity was 2 million vehicles a year, Tom Zhu, the new global production chief, said at the event. Musk did not provide details of how many vehicles the factory would produce in a year and Tesla's investment in it.

Re:Typical corporatist

[Chuq]

1) They haven't accepted billions in subsidies, they got a government loan and paid it all back, with interest
2) There were other subsidies and programs but these were general offers by state governments etc. that all manufacturers were eligible for.
3) They already are creating jobs in the US, with factories in California, Nevada, Texas and New York.
4) The US Government expanded the manufacturing locations that were eligible for subsidies to include Mexico; specifically because Ford, GM and others already had manufacturing facilities there. The US Govt wanted to give them advantage over Tesla, who spun this around by opening a location there.
5) Mexico has free-trade agreements with several other South American countries, opening up export potential to those areas

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[Chuq]

In both cases they were market mechanisms that any manufacturer could have taken advantage of. Not giant cheques that the government wrote and handed to Tesla.

The carbon credits - all manufacturers had to either make EVs, or pay another company that did make them. All manufacturers could have started building EVs, but some didn't. Entirely up to them.

$7500 tax credit subsidy wasn't given to automakers, it was given to people buying the cars. And it was capped per manufacturer, so for the last couple of ye

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[stabiesoft]

Ah, good to see my faith in musk cultists was valid. Thanks for the downvotes.

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[Chuq]

Did it occur to you that you're getting downvoted because you're talking shit?

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[stabiesoft]

Nope, I stand by my original comment. REBATES ARE SUBSIDIES. Get over it. I posted a FACT and the musk lubbers downvoted me. Whop de doo. Don't disappoint me musk lubber.

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[WankerWeasel]

Tesla PR going hard in here.

Re:Typical corporatist

[Joce640k]

Damn those pesky facts.

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[aaarrrgggh]

And likely most important... the Mexico factory is (apparently) not intended for US sales. It is intended for their next-generation vehicle sales in new markets.

I'm sure eventually some of the products could make their way to the US, but every indication from Tesla so far is that it will address Latin America and potentially Africa with lower cost vehicles.

Re:Typical corporatist

[jellomizer]

Tesla did just open a Giant Gigafactory in Texas.
Their original one one California is still going and doing most of the orders.
There is one in Navada and New York as well, doing batteries and solar cells.
Tesla cars are also rated rather high with US based sourced materials.

A lot of our international trade relationships had hit some major problems, with nearly all countries demanding that goods are made in their country or face some sort of penalties.

Re:Typical corporatist

[Joce640k]

You accepted billions in taxpayer subsidies, how about creating those jobs in the US instead of Germany, China and Mexico?

Yeah, just like Ford, GM, etc.

Make America great? Also fired 30 workers for uni

[tekram]

for unionizing. 'Tesla workers at the Gigafactory 2 in Buffalo, New York, allege over 30 workers were fired on 14 February in response to the announcement of a union organizing drive at the 1,000-worker... just one day after workers there made public their plans to form a union, .

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[jfdavis668]

or, did they announce a plan to unionize knowing they were about to be fired?

Re:Make America great? Also fired 30 workers for u

[mrclevesque]

> or, did they announce a plan to unionize knowing they were about to be fired?

Feb 14th 2023 "Tesla fires more than 30 workers after union drive announcement" - https://www.theguardian.com/te... [theguardian.com]

"The union, if successful, would be a first at Tesla"

"Workers attempted to organize a union at the Fremont, California, production plant in 2017 with the United Auto Workers before several employees involved in the union campaign were also terminated. The NLRB ordered the reinstatement of one fired worker from that campaign, Richard Ortiz"

"in 2021, and Tesla has also faced other allegations of firing workers in retaliation for organizing efforts at the company’s solar plant in Buffalo, New York"

"Tesla has not commented in response to the firings and disbanded its US media relations team in 2020"

Re:Make America great? Also fired 30 workers for u

[bgarcia]

"Tesla has not commented in response to the firings...

It's amazing that the Guardian article you quoted simply... lied.

That article was written on Feb 17.
Tesla responded on Feb 16.
In Response to False Allegations [tesla.com]

There is a false allegation that Tesla terminated employees in response to a new union campaign. These are the facts behind the event:

• Tesla conducts performance review cycles every six months. Employees receive a performance rating from 1 to 5 in each cycle that helps them calibrate their work with the expectations of their job. In the worst case, if an employee fails to meet their performance expectations they will be let go.
• This review process takes place globally, including in North America, Europe, China, etc. It is not localized to Buffalo.
• The most recent performance review cycle was from July 2022 through December 2022. On December 13th, 2022, managers across the company received a communication regarding the review schedule. This included information noting that exits for low performers would start the week of February 12, 2023.
• Approximately 4% of the employees on the Autopilot labeling team in Buffalo were exited as a result of this performance review cycle. The employees let go as part of this process received prior feedback on their poor performance from their managers over the course of the review period. Despite feedback, they did not demonstrate sufficient improvement.
• The impacted employees were identified on February 3, 2023, which was well before the union campaign was announced. We became aware of organizing activities approximately 10 days later. We learned in hindsight that one out of the 27 impacted employees officially identified as part of the union campaign. This exercise pre-dated any union campaign.
• The labeling team in Buffalo, NY has been growing over the last several months at an average rate of around 10 employees a week. Over the last 6 months, the department's employee base has grown 54%, from 437 employees to 675 employees as of the beginning of this week.
• The reason there is time monitoring for image labeling is to improve the ease of use of our labeling software. Since its purpose is to calculate how long it takes to label an image, there is nothing to be gained by delaying bathroom breaks. The claim that Tesla pressures employees to do so is categorically false.

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Our employees in Buffalo are core to our mission of accelerating the world’s transition to sustainable energy, helping to build Superchargers, Solar Roof and power electronics for many applications.

Re: Make America great? Also fired 30 workers for

[Type44Q]

So only one of twenty-five were worthless, goldbricking fucks.

Tesla sounds overly charitable.

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[mrclevesque]

"Tesla has not commented in response to the firings...

It's amazing that the Guardian article you quoted simply... lied.

That article was written on Feb 17.
Tesla responded on Feb 16.

No, I think it's accurate, Tesla didn't respond to the 2021 firing incident at the solar plant.

The following quotes are from your link.

"Approximately 4% of the employees on the Autopilot labeling team in Buffalo were exited"

Not really relevant but I find the use of the the word exited instead of fired really weird.

"The impacted employees were identified on February 3, 2023 ... We became aware of organizing activities approximately 10 days later"

I don't think no one higher up at Tesla knew about the union ca

Joined Party So That Mexicans Can Make His Cars

[BrendaEM]

You must stay in Mexico, and make my cars!

India really screwed up

[WindBourne]

This would likely have been an Indian plant, but now is coming to North America. Sad that Indian leaders care so little for their citizens.