Microsoft Plans Major Platform Upgrades for 'Windows 12' That Will Modernize the OS With AI and Faster Updates (windowscentral.com) 143
Windows Central reports: According to my sources who are familiar with Microsoft's plans, the company is once again hard at work on a new project internally that's designed to modernize the Windows platform with many of the same innovations it was working on for Windows Core OS, but with a focus on native compatibility for legacy Win32 applications on devices where it makes sense. The project is codenamed CorePC and is designed to be a modular and customizable variant of Windows for Microsoft to leverage different form factors with. Not all Windows PCs need the full breadth of legacy Win32 app support, and CorePC will allow Microsoft to configure "editions" of Windows with varying levels of feature and app compatibility.
The big change with CorePC versus the current shipping version of Windows is that CorePC is state separated, just like Windows Core OS. State separation enables faster updates and a more secure platform via read-only partitions that are inaccessible to the user and third-party apps, just like on iPadOS or Android. [...] CorePC splits up the OS into multiple partitions, which is key to enabling faster OS updates. State separation also enables faster and more reliable system reset functionality, which is important for Chromebook compete devices in the education sector.
[...] My sources tell me CorePC will allow Microsoft to finally deliver a version of Windows that truly competes with Chromebooks in OS footprint, performance, and capabilities. [...] Microsoft is also working on a version of CorePC that meet the current feature set and capabilities of Windows desktop, but with state separation enabled for those faster OS updates and improved security benefits. The company is working on a compatibility layer codenamed Neon for legacy apps that require a shared state OS to function, too. Lastly, I hear that Microsoft is experimenting with a version of CorePC that's "silicon-optimized," designed to reduce legacy overhead, focus on AI capabilities, and vertically optimize hardware and software experiences in a way similar to that of Apple Silicon. Unsurprisingly, AI experiences are a key focus for Windows going into 2024.
The big change with CorePC versus the current shipping version of Windows is that CorePC is state separated, just like Windows Core OS. State separation enables faster updates and a more secure platform via read-only partitions that are inaccessible to the user and third-party apps, just like on iPadOS or Android. [...] CorePC splits up the OS into multiple partitions, which is key to enabling faster OS updates. State separation also enables faster and more reliable system reset functionality, which is important for Chromebook compete devices in the education sector.
[...] My sources tell me CorePC will allow Microsoft to finally deliver a version of Windows that truly competes with Chromebooks in OS footprint, performance, and capabilities. [...] Microsoft is also working on a version of CorePC that meet the current feature set and capabilities of Windows desktop, but with state separation enabled for those faster OS updates and improved security benefits. The company is working on a compatibility layer codenamed Neon for legacy apps that require a shared state OS to function, too. Lastly, I hear that Microsoft is experimenting with a version of CorePC that's "silicon-optimized," designed to reduce legacy overhead, focus on AI capabilities, and vertically optimize hardware and software experiences in a way similar to that of Apple Silicon. Unsurprisingly, AI experiences are a key focus for Windows going into 2024.
"Partitions inaccessible to the user" (Score:5, Insightful)
"State separation enables faster updates and a more secure platform via read-only partitions that are inaccessible to the user and third-party apps, just like on iPadOS or Android."
You mean the devices that don't actually let you control your devices because the OS is locked off in a part of storage that you can't access without root, which you can't get without probably bricking the device?
You are not doing a goddamn thing to my box that makes part of it inaccessible to me. Hard no.
After 25 years of being strictly a Windows user, my last MS OS was Win7 and now it's going to stay that way even if you put a gun to my head. I don't even like my Android phone at this point because of the hard partition setup. Once it's a little more mature I'm probably going PinePhone.
wait for dell to say system 3 year old = no update (Score:2)
wait for dell to say system 3 year old = no more core updates
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wait for dell to say system 3 year old = no more core updates
A Dell that lasts 3 years? LOL.
No thank you. PLEASE! (Score:3)
Just trying to make the obligatory joke, but it does intersect with this FP thread, even considering the change of Subject.
As regards the first Subject, I really miss the days of feeling like I really owned the computer I purchased. Long time ago...
These days there is almost nothing in the new cruft that I want. Especially not the eye candy.
Now on the brand topic of the second Subject... My primary machine is sick and it's time to buy a new one while the old data is still accessible (and yes, I just freshen
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I haven't explored Linux compatibility in detail on these machines yet, but the hardware has been solid. I will probably be looking at Linux again soon, however, considering how Windows continues to increasingly piss me off. If all goes well there I would be happy to make an ASUS my last machine.
On the subject of Windows, I'm just so tired of basic function
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As an example, I had a Dell Alienware laptop a few years back. There was a bios update involving Intel ME, related to spectre, They botched the update, rolling back wouldn't resolve because it was related to the management engine. I think they finally released a working update, months later. I'm not certain if it fixed those that were affected, as I replaced the computer
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I supported >100 Dell Latitude 7300/7400s from 2020-2022. The things were pieces of junk. Can't believe they market them as business devices.
After 2 years almost all of them had their batteries degrade to less than 70% of designed capacity (and battery life was mediocre to start with). The fans would go like jet engines and they still ran hot. I ballpark 5-10% of them had an issue where if you picked up the laptop from the lefthand side, it'd cause the system board to flex and the system to crash.
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I pulled a cheap Dell i3 laptop from the recycling bin at work. The only problem it had was a failed slow platter drive. A $20 SSD and it’s been running fine since. Stop abusing things and they will last.
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My last two Dells lasted 10+ years each, easily outlasting several Windows versions.
Re: wait for dell to say system 3 year old = no up (Score:2)
If it's a laptip with user replaceable batteries or a high-end desktop you'll have a chance.
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It's four years on Apple's machines. Then two more years of "We'll fix it if we think it's important."
That's barely acceptable on a laptop, not at all for a desktop.
Re: "Partitions inaccessible to the user" (Score:2)
Theyâ(TM)ve been talking about making âoeoneâ Windows for all platforms for over ten years. Thatâ(TM)s why the Xbox One was named as such. And yet still x86 Windows is still 99% off the usage of the OS.
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You mean the devices that don't actually let you control your devices because the OS is locked off in a part of storage that you can't access without root, which you can't get without probably bricking the device?
You are not doing a goddamn thing to my box that makes part of it inaccessible to me. Hard no.
No. He means the same thing as every Linux partition which mounts /boot as read only after system start.
You're still in control of your device. Wipe the spittle from your mouth. No one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to use Windows.
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If your OS fails to load then the device isn’t bricked.
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It should also mean that if you need to move all your stuff to something new, you just copy
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IT's also making Windows applications fully containerized. No more twiddling with the registry for one. Also application specific data like configuration is in the container, not a AppData/local/wherever/whatever. This it's very similar to MacOS apps which try to put everything in a single directory, only containerized.
Now making the OS in a "read only" partition might worry some people but consider that this is not declared to be mandatory for all Windows and instead feels like an option for some platfo
Re: "Partitions inaccessible to the user" (Score:2)
It do make sense to containerize, but that must apply to each part of the office system too in order to block weird things propagating.
However it must be possible for the user to select this high level of security or opt out of it even if it may require a reboot into a maintenance mode or something similar where the protected partitions can be accessed.
Dear 1999 (Score:2)
Are you still laughing at us now when we warned you about "trusted computing"?
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"Every time someone talks about "modernizing" a piece of software all they actually do is make it 10 times worse."
Do you mean to tell me that you aren't excited about rounded corners? Can you say "refreshed", "clean", or any of the other buzzwords? No? Neither can I.
Re: "Partitions inaccessible to the user" (Score:2)
The more rounded the corners, the more patronizing and restrictive in terms of the user having control over things.
Seriously, they think that their entire user base are toddlers and I noticed this was increasingly so as the corners became more rounded.
Oh. Yay..... (Score:2)
More crap almost nobody needs.
More bloat.
Shittier interface.
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The start screen is gone. You boot directly to desktop as an option in W8.1, and always to desktop in W10. Now the start button opens up a windows, with extra junk you don't necessarily want, with declining levels of customization, and W11 is backsliding yet again, but it's not what you see on bootup. Ignore the "frequently used" stuff to the right, the left side still acts like a verticle list of applications.
Re: Oh. Yay..... (Score:2)
The terrible start that originated in Win8 I assume.
Before then it was OK. Better than the Program Manager that preceded it.
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Modular bloat is a start. Bloat that is only loaded into RAM if you open older software.
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Does anyone want to send them the obligatory telegram:
Dear Microsoft, stop.
Please please please please
Stop.
and how new does the computer need to be? (Score:4, Insightful)
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So they can pull all the "your current machine doesn't meet the minimum specs for Windows 12" like they did with Win11? No thanks.
No why would they? They already got their wish, and by the time Windows 11 goes EOL your old TPM free computer will have been melted in toxic sludge pit to recover metals in Bangalore.
Re: and how new does the computer need to be? (Score:2)
By which time Bangalore is no more due to Global Warming.
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No why would they? They already got their wish,
Microsoft: "We've got our wish. Pray we won't ask for it again."
How high are the barriers with separation? (Score:4, Interesting)
I remember MS doing this, where code in Windows is separated via some kernel level permission, then it gets slammed in the field, repeat. Even Windows XP would quietly replace system files with ones out of a cache directory if they were corrupted.
How is this different from what we have now, other than going to something similar to MacOS and an immutable core OS filesystem? Will Secure UEFI be able to deter bootkits or something that is RAM resident and not disk based, similar to how Magisk works on Android stuff to allow rooting but not touch the core immutable image (and this render the system unable to receive updates?)
MS could use this concept to do some security improvements. Everything from having the desktop OS in a seamless VM, ensuring that malware in that can't get to hardware for rogue firmware attacks, to easy backups of user data via snapshots, to easy erasing/resetting of a machine without a full reinstall.
However, it will take a few revs of this for me to become convinced this is something that is going to be an enhancement, as opposed to something that adds complexity and administration overhead, perhaps something that can cause security nightmares, especially if there is a remote root hole found in the immutable OS which only can be fixed via unplugging the machine from the network.
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Do you really need to ask? It is Microsoft. They are only interested in money. They will do this the cheapest way they can and the only reason they are doing it at all is customer pressure and the need to fake progress. So, as usual, you can expect this to make your work harder but to not actually give any material benefits.
Microsoft is now well on the way that whatever they do, it will make their sorry excuse for an OS slower, more bloated, more complex, harder to use and less secure. If they were interest
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I remember MS doing this,
They had good company back then . . .
https://tedium.co/2019/02/28/i... [tedium.co]
Re:How high are the barriers with separation? (Score:5, Insightful)
Not without either kludging together some backwards-compatible translation service from whatever new form of settings storage they come up with, as there's thousands of apps and such that are expecting a registry to exist.
So sure, you've gotten rid of the "registry" but everything requires the registry, so you just are inserting more CPU cycles between getting your setting and doing something with it, until literally every application is updated to use the new thing, which will then undoubtedly suck just as much as the Windows Registry.
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Having a registry is fine. But have you ever heard of any other database that gets corrupted so easily? Can't run any utilities on it. Can't roll back changes - Microsoft even decided to disable System Restore, thinking that DISM/SFC would be enough as if they completely forgot about it.
What they need to do is just port the whole registry to a new database engine. Granted, I'm only familiar with relational databases and not sure what would take its place. They don't even have repair/cleanup utilities f
Re: How high are the barriers with separation? (Score:2)
System Restore never worked in any of the cases I needed it, it only made things worse.
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For everything that people love to complain about the Windows Registry, it did solve one major problem: Giving a centralized, consistent, configuration interface. There are some things that could be done better, but I'd take the Registry and all of it's issues over needing
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Systemd is one step from implementing that exact feature. No more plain text files in /etc because it’s all moved to a flat database.
Systemd, the system that is very much configured using files in /etc is removing files from /etc? Yeah I'm with you bro, they too legalised weed in my state.
Chromebooks don't work for FAT apps or high end ga (Score:2)
Chromebooks don't work for FAT apps or high end gaming.
1st is MS going to write good and fast video drivers with rapid updates? Will there be an way for ATI / nvidia to have installers that can update the drivers in the core OS?
Will there be sand boxing that will kill steam? (BIG ANTITRUST ISSUES)
Will this kill game mods.
Maybe some enterprises can get away with the limited app setup of an Chromebook but ones with lot's of in house or 3rd party apps not so much.
Re:Chromebooks don't work for FAT apps or high end (Score:5, Funny)
Chromebooks don't work for FAT apps
So use NTFS.
*runs away*
That headline is nightmare fuel. (Score:5, Insightful)
Microsoft Plans Major Platform Upgrades for 'Windows 12' That Will Modernize the OS With AI and Faster Updates
Microsoft = OK
Major platform upgrades = typically this is market-speak for rug-pull
Windows 12 = Windows 10 is the last windows ever.
Modernize the OS = ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT. Wasn't the last "modernization" the "everything's a tablet" BS in Windows 8?
With AI = GTFO. It's an operating system. If it needs AI to access files, fire up a network stack and get the hell out of the way? You failed.
Faster updates = NOW WE CAN RESET ALL YOUR PREFERENCES BEFORE YOU EVEN FINISH SAVING THEM!
And then the summary makes the nightmare much more terrifying for somebody that likes an OS to just be an OS and stay out of the way of the real work.
What's the real goal with Windows? It's clearly not meant to be an operating system in the traditional sense any longer. And while I get that they want to push their subscription forever bullshit on everybody, most of this doesn't even have anything to do with that. It's once again mostly about locking the end-user out of control, forcing more updates, and throwing a few buzzwords in just for good measure, whether those buzzwords are labels for tech that's ready for prime-time or alpha/beta software that the entire world gets to test for them.
I also don't get pushing the idea that every OS needs to be like an iPad OS. That's a way to retain power users and developers. "We'll lock you out of doing anything powerful, for your own safety." The levels of WTF in this announcement can't be overstated.
But the AI ... (Score:2)
... is needed so that there's something "smart enough" to handle the rapid updates.
Something "intelligent" has to handle updates, because users are too stupid to. Like users that install this new system.
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All the "tech leaders" say that AI progress keeps them up at night, then they go to work and add vision, hearing, robots, etc. to the AI. So, now, Microsoft is going to add a bunch of AI in the OS. Before long, during the day at work, they will say it only makes sense for all the OS installations to talk to each other and help humanity solve difficult problems, but after work, they do interviews and say that AI is scaring them to
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Let's be honest though. Deep down. Way deep down in our blackened coding hearts, didn't we all know Microsoft would be the cause of the ultimate failure of humanity?
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Updates are an issue. I could install Linux in the time it takes Windows to apply updates. How Windows makes an SSD feel like a 5400 rpm drive I’ll never know.
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Updates are an issue. I could install Linux in the time it takes Windows to apply updates. How Windows makes an SSD feel like a 5400 rpm drive I’ll never know.
Indeed. I think they have specific "minimum install" times the developers have to meet. The observable behavior is so bad that mere, old-fashioned incompetence cannot explain it anymore. This has to be by intent.
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> That's a way to retain power users and developers.
Power users and developers are a measurement error in the number of users. The days of developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers are gone.
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"Wasn't the last "modernization" the "everything's a tablet" BS in Windows 8?"
Heavens no! The last modernization was rounded corners in Windows 11.
Re: That headline is nightmare fuel. (Score:2)
MacOS 7.5.3 under Basilisk][. I can get all the rounded corners I want. I can use Resedit to make all my applications have round corners.
And the applications are still good enough for typical office work and it's a joy that it only does what I need it to do without "assistants", "updates", and other crap to get in the way.
People need to get an emulator and fire up an OS from 20 or 30 years ago just to try it. You will be amazed at just how damn pleasant they are to use compared to the ones today.
The simple
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I still bust out my old blue and white copy of Appleworks on my Apple IIgs from time to time. The "get out of the way and let me do what I need to" factor is off the charts.
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Modernize the OS = ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT. Wasn't the last "modernization" the "everything's a tablet" BS in Windows 8?
Sadly, we all know Microsoft never hits abort when they should, retries multiple times, and ultimately fails. :P
And while I get that they want to push their subscription forever bullshit on everybody, most of this doesn't even have anything to do with that.
Of course it is. OS subscriptions only work if the OS refuses to do anything without the OK from the Mothership, and that only works if the end-user cannot alter the OS itself to skip such checks. Creating an OS partition that is immutable is the second step towards that. The first step is locking out the ability to change the OS entirely. (I.e. Install Linux, or an older version of Windows, etc
When it comes to Microsoft anything! (Score:2)
Just hop off the ride (Score:2)
Hopefully, the hardware vendors don't play along and make it difficult/impossible to repurpose "windows laptops" by completely paving over the storage an installing something more functional that will be supported for a longer time without excreting a subscription payment. I do like the idea of periodically getting new/shiny gear with additional features I may want if the factory-installed OS is disposable.
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Hopefully, the hardware vendors don't play along and make it difficult/impossible to repurpose "windows laptops" by completely paving over the storage
You will be hoping for a long time. That won't force anyone to buy a new system. Why only get sub fee when you can collect hardware margins as well.
Containerize / VM isolate the system! (Score:3)
If Microsoft built in hard isolation, to the point that “accidents” like Session Hijacking were essentially impossible – Linus Tech Tips – (forgoing being careless and stupid), they might become an attractive platform. I'll ignore that “locking parts of the OS” is scary from a control standpoint, because even if they go ahead with that, without isolation, what security minded power user is going to care?
Use a system like Qubes OS for a week or month, and you'll realize it's benefits. Yes, it's a hog on system resources, but that massive increase in resources gives a massive payback in security, one that is justified.
PLEASE send me windows 12 ASAP! (Score:2)
I just finished getting all my drivers updated to keep windows 11 happy and I want to do some more troubleshooting and waiting on vendors!
Maybe 12 would suck less than 11? Maybe it wouldn't involve more privacy invasion than 11? probably no forward progress but maybe it will not be worse... and the other bits get better?
So now we get a faster update cycle?! Well, I shouldn't socializing or resting so much anyway I need more time working on incompatibilities, conflicts, 3rd party updates... and now likely d
Re: PLEASE send me windows 12 ASAP! (Score:2)
Wait until that nice big thunderstorm rolls in and you can't unplug your PC because Windows is doing an hour plus automatic update for the millionth time.
Marketed to idiots? (Score:5, Insightful)
Who wants faster updates? I want no updates. I want shit to work without updates. I don't update any of my devices automatically. I update them once a month, or as needed/desired. I certainly don't let big data update whenever the fuck they want.
These posts are just another reminder I need to spend more time in my linux desktop to get myself off the comfort of windows.
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Mod parent sadly insightful.
focus on AI capabilities (Score:2)
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Just GPG sign your Git commits. Instant blockchain developer.
Re: focus on AI capabilities (Score:2)
Get with the program. Blockchain was last months marketdroid buzzword BS. AI is where it's at now, and its only 2 letters - much easier for the plebs to spell!
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I'm hoping that the month after next, the buzzword will be down to 0 letters.
They're idiots. (Score:3, Insightful)
Windows doesn't need *faster* updates, for example. It needs less intrusive updates, updates that don't constantly screw with the user's ability to, you know, use the computer. It doesn't need to be easier for Microsoft to customize for different form factors, it just needs to be easier for the user to customize to meet the user's needs. Instead of read-only partitions that are inaccessible to the user, what it actually needs is to close the door on privilege escalation attacks and block anything stored in user-writeable locations from automatically executing at system start or login; THAT would make the platform more secure (against things like trojans and ransomware). Windows doesn't need *faster* OS updates, it needs a filesystem with proper separation of directory entries from inodes, which would enable OS updates that can happen while the system is up and running, like on every Linux distribution since packages that specify their dependencies were invented. If installing updates didn't mean you pretty much can't use your computer at all for two days solid, maybe people would spend less time searching the internet for ways to stop it from happening. Other platforms solved this problem in the late nineties.
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Indeed. Or in other words, Windows needs to finally be brought up to the state-of-the-art in OS design and implementation and needs to stop lagging 20 years behind and being an insecure, slow, bloated mess.
But MS is not really interested in improving anything. All they care about is money. The only reason for Win12 is to get more money and hence they simulate innovation and pretend they are improving some things, when in actual reality they are making things even worse. Instead of at least trying to remove
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state-of-the-art in OS design
In other words, it needs more gratuitous interface changes, like randomly reshuffling the control panel.
Hmm, "modular" you say. (Score:2)
The project is codenamed CorePC and is designed to be a modular and customizable variant of Windows for Microsoft to leverage different form factors with.
Guessing this will allow them to easily split things up and offer parts as "extras" and/or by subscriptions -- like automakers are doing. For example, basic mouse functionality will be included in the Core, but the scroll-wheel only as a paid subscription -- you know, in case you don't need it every month.
Clippy 2024 (Score:2)
I don't need a virtual assistant, no matter what you call it and no matter how well you claim it can understand me.
HAL and Clippy, everything that is old is new again.
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> The project is codenamed CorePC and is designed to be a modular and customizable variant of Windows
Hardware Abstraction Layer
Point being on some level it already is modular. Now with more modules.
But I see where you'd think 2001 Hal, but that has nothing to do with Microsoft.
Again... (Score:2)
Not all Windows PCs need the full breadth of legacy Win32 app support
Ah, they are back to thinking that people want Windows but don't care about running Windows applications, which is pretty much the *only* thing Windows has going for it.
finally deliver a version of Windows that truly competes with Chromebooks
Though there is more to it, *giving* away the OS would be a required part of that. While some use cases like the disposable locked down behavior of ChromeOS, device vendors largely latched onto it as a path to reduce software cost. This path of trying to compete with ChromeOS leaves little room for differentiation. "OS that just runs a web
That's a hard "NO" (Score:2)
But any AI reporting back to Microsoft or any other organization is an obscenely hard "HELL NO!"
I DO NOT want to log into a Microsoft account to use the computer. They don't have any of my personal interests at heart. I want to log into a secure completely locally controlled account and that won't change.
And while they are at it: There is no reason to change features in the middle of a version. And there is no reason they need to force a billion+ peo
Linux mint xfce (Score:2)
Works fabulously well and runs every Steam game I have tried so far, not to mention dosbox and emulators etc
Microsoft keeps flip-flopping on this (Score:3)
Microsoft has been flip-flopping on embedded for 30 years.
They had Windows CE, which was a severely cut-down Windows. They turned that into Windows phone then abandoned it.
For Windows XP and 7, they had "Windows Embedded Standard" which shipped with an "Image Configuration Editor" which let you remove large swaths of the system like printing, networking, audio, fonts. You could drill-down and remove things selectively. It could run in a read-only mode too. The problem is that you might turn on one feature, and then a huge chain of things had to be added. Ex: You want the event viewer? Add several GB to your nicely trimmed-down image. And weird behaviors would creep in if an application indirectly referenced some feature that was removed.
Then they gave-up with Windows 10. The "IoT" version is actually the full Windows Server edition! It could barely run on a Raspberry Pi.
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They had Windows CE, which was a severely cut-down Windows.
Windows CE was its own beast, and it had more features than Windows 9x did. It wasn't cut-down from anything.
Windows 10 is the last version of Windows... (Score:2)
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It was a direct lie. You know, the level of honesty and integrity you should have come to expect from MS. The only reason they lied about it is because they wanted more win10 adoption, but convincing people that this would be the last MS "OS" upgrade shitshow. It was pretty clear back then that it would not be.
Hey! It looks like you're trying to write a letter (Score:2)
I still have a trauma from Clippy. Please, please, don't put it in control of my OS.
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will AI figure out how to install it on old PC? (Score:2)
Lucky 13 (Score:2)
I will skip Windows 12 as I skipped Windows 11.
Putting my hopes in for Windows 13 Witchcraft/Demon Edition.
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Is that why they skipped Windows 9 and went from 8 to 10?
Windows 12: The Return of Clippy (Score:2)
Windows Updates + AI (Score:2)
What can go wrong?
Windows needs one thing: A new file system (Score:2)
Windows doesn't need tabs in File Explorer / a shifted Task Bar / a new Night Mode.
Windows needs a new file system.
SkyNet 0.9 (Score:2)
Deja Vu (Score:2)
The first time I heard Microsoft declare that "modernization" was the goal of a particular OS upgrade, we got Windows Vista. The next time we got Windows 8. I'll likely skip Windows 12 because, ironically, I think we'll all have better luck with Windows 13.
Don't any of you kids know what FUD means ? (Score:2)
For decades, MS has been releasing news about amazing new features that will be in the next gen product
and 9 times out of ten, it is just vaporware
FUD means Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
It comes from the pre Google/FB era, when MS ruled the roost and it was thought that MS deliberately announced new features that were never intended to be real, just to scare competitors
Enjoy your "Device" (Score:2)
It's going to get a lot harder to get broadcast media and the like without "TV Provider." Why support if you are not using Device? You must use Device through Provider.
Real nice. Thanks everyone! Great job. Minting crimes for non-participants. Guess I won't be participating more. That day that you w
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Re: might reallllly be time for a move to linux (Score:4, Interesting)
Agreed. With this announcement, I will be looking into which flavor of Linux to switch my company to.
What MS fails to grasp is that I am the God of my machines / network, and I like it that way. Got a MCSE from back when that was worth something (go ahead and laugh), with Gates's e-sig scrawled on it, that specifically says I know wtf I'm doing. I know what they're lying about when they advertise new 'features,' I know how to fix the problems that they swear can never occur (shut the f*ck up MS Support, you're useless, all you do is recommend running sfc /scannow, then bounce), I'm the one who actually uses their 'car accidents' in a real world scenario.
AI in the OS...wtf are they thinking? It will get in my way, and confuse the users -> the same people who can't find a network-mapped drive if prompted a dozen times.
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Agreed. With this announcement, I will be looking into which flavor of Linux to switch my company to.
I like Kubuntu, but other distributions with KDE might also be worth looking at it. KDE is generally more Windows-like in terms of the UI, so it should be less new learning for the users.
Re: might reallllly be time for a move to linux (Score:2)
FVWM3 would be a choice.
Re: might reallllly be time for a move to linux (Score:2)
I'm kind of partial to Cinnamon.
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Pretty sure they are too busy RAMMING their customers.