Safari Beats Edge as Second-Most Used Browser in April (bgr.com) 49
An anonymous reader shared this report from BGR:
Last year, Microsoft Edge surpassed Safari as the second most popular desktop browser. Now, new data from Statcounter shows that Apple's browser has finally regained second place.
The full ranking shows that Google Chrome remains the most used browser... It's also interesting to note that after Firefox almost surpassed Safari in February of 2022, the browser is still losing its base to Microsoft Edge and Safari... Even the all-mighty Google Chrome has lost a bit of userbase, as it had 66.64% of users last April and now has 66.13%.
The final rankings (with data from April 2023):
The full ranking shows that Google Chrome remains the most used browser... It's also interesting to note that after Firefox almost surpassed Safari in February of 2022, the browser is still losing its base to Microsoft Edge and Safari... Even the all-mighty Google Chrome has lost a bit of userbase, as it had 66.64% of users last April and now has 66.13%.
The final rankings (with data from April 2023):
- Google Chrome: 66.13%
- Safari: 11.87%
- Microsoft Edge: 11%
- Firefox: 5.65%
- Opera 3.09%
- Internet Explorer: 0.55%
How much is "request desktop site"? (Score:2)
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I recently (as in a week or so ago) got a Mac. I held off for decades but I get people asking me to fix stuff all the time. Figured it was time.
I ditched Safari pretty quickly as adblockers didn't seem to work well (or at all on some sites.)
Using Firefox with ublock now.
Internet Explorer (Score:3, Funny)
.55 percent. Jesus man, that is millions. Just ban them off the internet, with a heavy fine and fuck it, some jail time too. Switch every website to TLS 1.3 so IE cannot access it.
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Where are the armed men that come in to take the users away?
They're coming to take me away, ha-ha
They're coming to take me away
Ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-ha, to the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats
And they're coming to take me away, ha-ha
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Pretty white coats.
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The stats are apparently "worldwide". In China, Internet Explorer was popular for a lot longer than it was in the US. Older operating systems such as XP were also more popular for a lot longer in China. In the latest version of Windows 11 you don't even have the option to use Internet Explorer anymore.
In the US I'd bet that the only people still "using" internet explorer are business computers (probably on Windows 10 LTSC) using IE to run some 10+ year old business app/program that relies on IE, and ev
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using IE to run some 10+ year old business app/program that relies on IE, and even then, they probably use IE for that only, not for their normal browsing.
Aren't these kinds of browser usage stats derived from various web server logs? IE wouldn't be showing up in this data if it were being used exclusively for legacy business applications.
Re: Internet Explorer (Score:2)
Dunno arrival, me robotics, mutest hi shark tati!
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Hah. We still have to use IE at work as our payroll system requires it. We don't use IE for anything else though.
Switching payroll systems isn't as easy as you think.
Slight correction (Score:5, Funny)
The final rankings (with data from April 2023):
66.13% of users' privacy invaded by Google
11.87% of users' privacy invaded by Apple
11.55% of users' privacy invaded by Microsoft
5.65% of users' privacy not yet invaded by Mozilla
3.09% of users' privacy presumably not invaded by Opera Software
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5.65% of users' privacy not yet invaded by Mozilla
Mostly they send users over to have their privacy invaded by google, but also Pocket.
Re:Slight correction (Score:4, Interesting)
First thing I do when setting up Firefox is turn off as much of the "Pocket" crap that I can.
Second thing is to set DuckDuckGo as my default search engine.
(Third thing is, of course, to install uBlock Origin.)
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Those are the exact same things I do first....
Install Firefox
Turn off Pocket
Install Ublock Origin
Change search to DDG
And then:
Turn on menu bar
Turn on full URLs
Turn off metrics
Turn off smooth scrolling
Tighten autoplay blocking
Turn off animations
Install Global Speed addon
And install my own userchrome to put tabs back on bottom, where they belong.
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Have they finally decided to ditch userchrome entirely? All of the features I used to use have been removed, even though the documentation for the removed features is sill online.
One of many reasons I switched to a Firefox fork.
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>"Have they finally decided to ditch userchrome entirely?"
Not that I have heard of. And I certainly hope not. I use it to control several aspects of the UI with great success. This project makes it even easier, and is constantly updated:
https://github.com/Aris-t2/Cus... [github.com]
Re: Slight correction (Score:3)
Puss, first thing I do is set search to Bing, allow all cookies and turn off that infernal virus scanner thingy, just slows down my vb3 hardcore Uber coding. It sucks.
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Bah. Yandex. Putin don't give two shits what I do.
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>"Mostly they send users over to have their privacy invaded by google, but also Pocket."
Nope.
1) Pocket is a one-click turnoff and doesn't "do" anything even if not turned off. You would have to sign up to use it.
2) Google has no access to anything in Firefox unless you leave the default search to be Google. And if you do that, it is your own silliness.
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Nope.
Yep.
1) Pocket is a one-click turnoff and doesn't "do" anything even if not turned off. You would have to sign up to use it.
Pocket is a two-click turnoff and before spending $20M of donation money on it, they removed Firefox add-ons' ability to write to the filesystem that many of us were using with the extension Scrapbook+. So they destroyed your ability to save webpages as displayed without going to a server, then they introduced a server-based system which does it. And you think that's not an attack on your privacy? You total noob.
2) Google has no access to anything in Firefox unless you leave the default search to be Google. And if you do that, it is your own silliness.
So you're confirming what I said in the name of denying it? What a dildo move. Show me on th
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>"Pocket is a two-click turnoff and before spending $20M of donation money on it, they removed Firefox add-ons' ability to write to the filesystem that many of us were using with the extension Scrapbook+. So they destroyed your ability to save webpages as displayed without going to a server, then they introduced a server-based system which does it. And you think that's not an attack on your privacy?"
It isn't. Not "writing to the filesystem" isn't about privacy. Might be about control, though.
>"You t
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fool me twice ...
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Lol. Gullible.
LOL. mindless naysayer.
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The privacy protections for most of Apple's software are OK, but the "free" offerings in their App Store are filled with just almost as much adware infested garbage as the Google Play Store. There is definitely still some work to be done here.
Re: Slight correction (Score:3)
Also, despite common belief around here, Apple being a PR-addicted company has some perks. They really don't want Microsoft's reputation.
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That's what Apple would like you to think.
Apple now rakes in $4 billion a year from ads placed within its products. https://www.wired.com/story/ap... [wired.com]
And at least one class action lawsuit is underway, in which plaintiffs allege that apple is targeting ads, despite privacy settings. https://gizmodo.com/apple-ipho... [gizmodo.com]
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Apple don't invade privacy. One of the joys of buying from the worlds richest tech company and paying a decent amount of money for the device you use is that they don't need to subsidise the price by bundling software and selling your data to third parties.
Exactly!
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And the handful users of Pale Moon like me are happy to use a browser for everyday that doesn't choke the PC when it has more than a couple of websites open.
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Performance has something to do with it's decline. Although I never had a problem with pre-quantum performance, I remember that was a common complaint from others.
The post quantum causes of Firefox's fall were were the nonsensical, illogical, unintuitive tinkering changes and locking down of the UI with every other build, removing options (update settings, UI customizations settings), other UI changes like stupid flat wireframe monochrome icons, nerfing addons, and the cancel-culture mentality of the woke m
Re:Let me fix that for you. (Score:4, Informative)
>"It amazes me how far Mozilla Firefox has fallen. My suspicion is that the relatively poor performance of the pre-quantum versions of Firefox as Chrome increased were a big factor in losing users."
It was mostly marketing. Google just bombarded everyone with ads about Chrome. They had a window of performance edge over Firefox that wasn't too long before it was closed again (it wasn't easy on Mozilla, since they had to overhaul some stuff). But Mozilla didn't do any of its loyal users any favors by forcing Firefox to look/act more like Chrome, which many users hated. In any case, the damage was done and people still thought Chrom* was better, when it wasn't. It earned marketshare it really didn't deserve.
There is almost ZERO reason to use Chrom* over Firefox now (on the desktop), and hasn't been for years. Chrom* is not faster (overall), it uses MORE resources, it has fewer protections for privacy, it is not more secure, it has fewer customizations, and, most importantly, it is gives WAY too much power to Google.
Progress Delayed Is Progress Denied (Score:2)
Since when is Safari "Chromium based"? Last I checked, Apple WebKit was missing a lot of key things added to Blink after the fork, such as the Push API. What has changed in the two years since "Progress Delayed Is Progress Denied" by Alex Russell [infrequently.org] was published?
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He means webkit based, but can't bring himself to say it.
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Chromium is a problem, but Safari is actually the new IE. Just like IE, it's old, outdated, crappy, with poor support for modern web standards, but most web developers are stuck supporting it because the iOS market is just too big to ignore. In many ways it's worse with Safari, as Windows users were never blocked from installing another browser, but in Apple's walled garden Safari is your only choice.
Only true in iOS.
Edge has it's problems (Score:2)
I went over, had a look and tried the upload from Chrome which went fine.
This is on a Win10 computer of a guy too thick to change anything to the default settings...
Personally I am a Firefox user (on Kubuntu) and hardly ever encounter issues.
Not by much (Score:3)
Safari: 11.87%
Microsoft Edge: 11%
Better headline: Safari Edges Out Edge ...
[Maxwell Smart: Edge missed Safari by *that* much.]
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[Maxwell Smart: Edge missed Safari by *that* much.]
That's the second-biggest browser I've ever seen!
Safari and Firefox must stay strong (Score:2)
the choice of "Joe Sixpack" (Score:1)