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Safari Beats Edge as Second-Most Used Browser in April (bgr.com) 49

An anonymous reader shared this report from BGR: Last year, Microsoft Edge surpassed Safari as the second most popular desktop browser. Now, new data from Statcounter shows that Apple's browser has finally regained second place.

The full ranking shows that Google Chrome remains the most used browser... It's also interesting to note that after Firefox almost surpassed Safari in February of 2022, the browser is still losing its base to Microsoft Edge and Safari... Even the all-mighty Google Chrome has lost a bit of userbase, as it had 66.64% of users last April and now has 66.13%.

The final rankings (with data from April 2023):
  • Google Chrome: 66.13%
  • Safari: 11.87%
  • Microsoft Edge: 11%
  • Firefox: 5.65%
  • Opera 3.09%
  • Internet Explorer: 0.55%

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Safari Beats Edge as Second-Most Used Browser in April

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  • On iPhones and iPads MacOS dosen't have the market share alone to beat Edge and most MacOS users choose different browsers.
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    • I recently (as in a week or so ago) got a Mac. I held off for decades but I get people asking me to fix stuff all the time. Figured it was time.

      I ditched Safari pretty quickly as adblockers didn't seem to work well (or at all on some sites.)

      Using Firefox with ublock now.

  • by backslashdot ( 95548 ) on Saturday May 06, 2023 @03:04PM (#63502623)

    .55 percent. Jesus man, that is millions. Just ban them off the internet, with a heavy fine and fuck it, some jail time too. Switch every website to TLS 1.3 so IE cannot access it.

    • This is outrageous. Where are the armed men that come in to take the users away? Where are they?! This kind of behavior is never tolerated in Boraqua. You do that, they put you in jail. Right away. No trial. No nothing. We have the best user base in the world because of jail.
      • by Anonymous Coward

        Where are the armed men that come in to take the users away?

        They're coming to take me away, ha-ha
        They're coming to take me away
        Ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-ha, to the funny farm
        Where life is beautiful all the time
        And I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats
        And they're coming to take me away, ha-ha

    • The stats are apparently "worldwide". In China, Internet Explorer was popular for a lot longer than it was in the US. Older operating systems such as XP were also more popular for a lot longer in China. In the latest version of Windows 11 you don't even have the option to use Internet Explorer anymore.

      In the US I'd bet that the only people still "using" internet explorer are business computers (probably on Windows 10 LTSC) using IE to run some 10+ year old business app/program that relies on IE, and ev

      • using IE to run some 10+ year old business app/program that relies on IE, and even then, they probably use IE for that only, not for their normal browsing.

        Aren't these kinds of browser usage stats derived from various web server logs? IE wouldn't be showing up in this data if it were being used exclusively for legacy business applications.

    • Dunno arrival, me robotics, mutest hi shark tati!

    • No, that's great news! Firefox has literally ten times the market share of Internet explorer now! It's finally beaten Microsoft. Way to go!
    • Hah. We still have to use IE at work as our payroll system requires it. We don't use IE for anything else though.

      Switching payroll systems isn't as easy as you think.

  • by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Saturday May 06, 2023 @03:10PM (#63502635)

    The final rankings (with data from April 2023):

            66.13% of users' privacy invaded by Google
            11.87% of users' privacy invaded by Apple
            11.55% of users' privacy invaded by Microsoft
            5.65% of users' privacy not yet invaded by Mozilla
            3.09% of users' privacy presumably not invaded by Opera Software

    • 5.65% of users' privacy not yet invaded by Mozilla

      Mostly they send users over to have their privacy invaded by google, but also Pocket.

      • Re:Slight correction (Score:4, Interesting)

        by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Saturday May 06, 2023 @03:54PM (#63502719)

        First thing I do when setting up Firefox is turn off as much of the "Pocket" crap that I can.

        Second thing is to set DuckDuckGo as my default search engine.

        (Third thing is, of course, to install uBlock Origin.)

        • Those are the exact same things I do first....

          Install Firefox
          Turn off Pocket
          Install Ublock Origin
          Change search to DDG

          And then:

          Turn on menu bar
          Turn on full URLs
          Turn off metrics
          Turn off smooth scrolling
          Tighten autoplay blocking
          Turn off animations
          Install Global Speed addon
          And install my own userchrome to put tabs back on bottom, where they belong.

          • Have they finally decided to ditch userchrome entirely? All of the features I used to use have been removed, even though the documentation for the removed features is sill online.

            One of many reasons I switched to a Firefox fork.

            • >"Have they finally decided to ditch userchrome entirely?"

              Not that I have heard of. And I certainly hope not. I use it to control several aspects of the UI with great success. This project makes it even easier, and is constantly updated:

              https://github.com/Aris-t2/Cus... [github.com]

        • Puss, first thing I do is set search to Bing, allow all cookies and turn off that infernal virus scanner thingy, just slows down my vb3 hardcore Uber coding. It sucks.

      • >"Mostly they send users over to have their privacy invaded by google, but also Pocket."

        Nope.

        1) Pocket is a one-click turnoff and doesn't "do" anything even if not turned off. You would have to sign up to use it.

        2) Google has no access to anything in Firefox unless you leave the default search to be Google. And if you do that, it is your own silliness.

        • Nope.

          Yep.

          1) Pocket is a one-click turnoff and doesn't "do" anything even if not turned off. You would have to sign up to use it.

          Pocket is a two-click turnoff and before spending $20M of donation money on it, they removed Firefox add-ons' ability to write to the filesystem that many of us were using with the extension Scrapbook+. So they destroyed your ability to save webpages as displayed without going to a server, then they introduced a server-based system which does it. And you think that's not an attack on your privacy? You total noob.

          2) Google has no access to anything in Firefox unless you leave the default search to be Google. And if you do that, it is your own silliness.

          So you're confirming what I said in the name of denying it? What a dildo move. Show me on th

          • >"Pocket is a two-click turnoff and before spending $20M of donation money on it, they removed Firefox add-ons' ability to write to the filesystem that many of us were using with the extension Scrapbook+. So they destroyed your ability to save webpages as displayed without going to a server, then they introduced a server-based system which does it. And you think that's not an attack on your privacy?"

            It isn't. Not "writing to the filesystem" isn't about privacy. Might be about control, though.

            >"You t

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Apple don't invade privacy. One of the joys of buying from the worlds richest tech company and paying a decent amount of money for the device you use is that they don't need to subsidise the price by bundling software and selling your data to third parties.
      • by znrt ( 2424692 )

        fool me twice ...

      • by leonbev ( 111395 )

        The privacy protections for most of Apple's software are OK, but the "free" offerings in their App Store are filled with just almost as much adware infested garbage as the Google Play Store. There is definitely still some work to be done here.

      • Also, despite common belief around here, Apple being a PR-addicted company has some perks. They really don't want Microsoft's reputation.

      • That's what Apple would like you to think.

        Apple now rakes in $4 billion a year from ads placed within its products. https://www.wired.com/story/ap... [wired.com]
        And at least one class action lawsuit is underway, in which plaintiffs allege that apple is targeting ads, despite privacy settings. https://gizmodo.com/apple-ipho... [gizmodo.com]

      • by Anonymous Coward
        WTF? are you an idiot or just obviously to their multiple privacy failures such as selling your data?
      • Apple don't invade privacy. One of the joys of buying from the worlds richest tech company and paying a decent amount of money for the device you use is that they don't need to subsidise the price by bundling software and selling your data to third parties.

        Exactly!

    • And the handful users of Pale Moon like me are happy to use a browser for everyday that doesn't choke the PC when it has more than a couple of websites open.

  • A few days ago a friend reported that uploading his CV to an agency did not work and due to the GDPR they would not accept it in mail.
    I went over, had a look and tried the upload from Chrome which went fine.
    This is on a Win10 computer of a guy too thick to change anything to the default settings...

    Personally I am a Firefox user (on Kubuntu) and hardly ever encounter issues.
  • by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Saturday May 06, 2023 @03:43PM (#63502705)

    Safari: 11.87%
    Microsoft Edge: 11%

    Better headline: Safari Edges Out Edge ...

    [Maxwell Smart: Edge missed Safari by *that* much.]

  • Most browsers are glorified Chromium skins, with Firefox and Safari being the outliers. A healthy Safari means a healthy WebKit and a safe Firefox means a safe Gecko. Without these, we would be stuck in a monoculture more dangerous than the one Internet Explorer threatened us with. In the late 90s there was far less to implement with websites being simpler. I doubt a from-scratch effort to compete would even get off the ground these days.
  • Meh. John Q. Public also has bad taste in music, beer, politics, clothes. Color me surprised. Firefox seems to be the least offensive, regardless of what people who post selfies and take pictures of their food think.

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