Musk Says Looking Ahead To Tesla and Starlink India Debut

Tesla chief executive Elon Musk says the firm is looking to invest in India and bring the electric carmaker to the country "as soon as humanly possible." From a report: Musk said he had a "very good" conversation with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Tuesday and is hopeful that they will be able to "announce something in the not too distant future." The dialog comes at a time when Tesla and New Delhi have revived talks about incentives to bring the carmaker to the South Asian market. SpaceX representatives have also revived conversations with the telecom ministry in India in recent weeks for setting up satellite internet service Starlink in the country, according to a person familiar with the matter.

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[backslashdot]

He's also dialed up the islamophobia, some say to pander to Modi .. but that I dunno (reference: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/s... [twitter.com]). By selectively retweeting and promoting right-wing ideology and cherry picked incidents, dude's succeeded in turning Twitter into right-wing only website.

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[byronivs]

I avoid twitter and any website I don't require that makes me turn out my pockets just to visit. It's fucked up and you wouldn't put up with it in real life.

Trolls are people too!

[GreaterTroll]

They’re great places to be a troll!

However I can’t imagine why a human would go there. Humans have a penchant for foolish adventures that always end in getting eaten by trolls.

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[backslashdot]

Note: In spite of Sweden letting in thousands of unvetted muslim immigrants, the homicide rate has not really changed since 1990. Reference: https://www.macrotrends.net/co... [macrotrends.net]
However selectively broadcasting cherry picked incidents that fit your narrative make it look like homicide has gone up 100x and that only non-Swedes are capable of homicide. Same tactic was used by to denigrate Mexican immigrants. Every time an immigrant does a crime, right wing media broadcast it .. but if a non-immigrant does one .. they suppress reports. If you check the homicide rate of the US, and in major cities there is less homicide today than 30 years ago in spite of a large number of Mexican immigrants.

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[greytree]

To be clear: I have no knowledge of the stats.

But the problem with your comment is that the reason Musk's tweet might worry normal people is not some straw men problems "homicide has gone up 100x and that only non-Swedes are capable of homicide", but rather that the people they let into their country *are more likely to commit crimes* than Swedish ( or American ) natives.
That would be a reason to oppose admitting them.

So: Is *that* a realistic concern, or can it be easily disproven ?

e.g. Some people support

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[backslashdot]

Is *that* a realistic concern, or can it be easily disproven ?

This article should answer that: https://www.americanimmigratio... [americanim...ouncil.org]

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[greytree]

Thank you.
Looks like it's disproved by various methods, too ( for the American question ).

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[bushesman]

Still talking like it's 2015?
https://www.reuters.com/world/... [reuters.com]

This crime's category is very new in Sweden and was not even logged prior to 2017..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

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[bushesman]

Lying with statistics.
The refugess make up 2% of the population:
https://www.macrotrends.net/co... [macrotrends.net]
They're such a small group they don't tilt the very broad category of "crime rate". Wonder if we looked at "violent crime instead"?
What about the post 2014 rise in rape?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
You've got 58% of rapes in Sweeden committed by a tiny 2% of the population? Very nice

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[bushesman]

Hellhole:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne... [dailymail.co.uk]

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[backslashdot]

Cherry picking.

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[bushesman]

Absolutely, I'm just being a shit now.
But you can't ignore the Reuters article or the rape states.

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[93 Escort Wagon]

A single Daily Mail story about a single criminal incident in Sweden makes the country a "hellhole"?

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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[greytree]

"You've got 58% of rapes in Sweden committed by a tiny 2% of the population"

Your comment does not address this, or the whole paragraph on the Wiki page which should concern anyone:

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In 2018, Swedish Television investigative journalism show Uppdrag Granskning analysed the total of 843 district court cases from the five preceding years and found that 58% of all convicted of rape and attempted rape had a foreign background.[22][31] 40% were immigrants born in the Middle East and Africa, with young men from Afgh

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[1s44c]

I'm not trying to claim that Mexican immigrants affect homicide rates, I don't know. But there are many other factors that could be affecting these rates so that any effect from Mexican immigrants is hidden. The real answer is we can't prove or disprove this effect with the information we have.

Politics overrides rational thought though so people will claim all kinds of things that can't be proven.

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[Twinbee]

Rape's increased apparently though. Out of around 3000 offenders in the period 2000-2015, around half of them were immigrants born outside of Sweden (source [nih.gov]). The demographics of such immigrants are as follows:

- Eastern Europe: 15.0%
- Western countries: 7.3%
- Middle East/North Africa: 34.5%
- Africa (excluding North Africa): 19.1%
- Asia (excluding Middle East) and Oceania: 14.4%
- Latin America and the Caribbean: 9.7%

I'll leave the reader to make their own conclusions.

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[dawg1234]

Why would India want Tesla? It's got lower ESG score than Chevron and Philip Morris. It is not sustainable.

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[Comboman]

Promoting Islamophobia is something Musk probably would have done anyway, but censoring negative tweets about Modi and his government [theguardian.com] (even those from outside India) was definitely an attempt to grease the wheels for this deal. Twitter is a haven for free speech... except when it gets in the way of Musk's business interests (or is making fun of him).

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[Shugart]

Elon probably did more harm to his companies by buying Twitter. It was inevitable accusations like this would be made. For all I know, however, it is true. I like what his companies have accomplished, minus Twitter, but decry some of his opinions. He should keep his trap shut and focus on Engineering.

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[account_deleted]

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[Twinbee]

AFAIK, it was either that or Twitter would have been blocked from India or faced heavy fines at least. They have to follow the rules of the land.

Should Elon have showed some spine and ignored the government anyway? Maybe. Alternatively, India could vote in someone else. There's a lot of countries where Twitter has to similarly abide by the rules or face a block.

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[Minus 1 Republican]

(reference: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/s [twitter.com]... [twitter.com]).

Which part is islamiphobic?
The rando posting a link to a news story about a HORRIFIC crime?
Or Elon posting "!"...?

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[backslashdot]

Look at the broader context and his pattern. He doesn't just "!" randomly or retweet every tweet. He's always 1. Cherry-picking right-wing narratives. 99% of the time. (The occasional 1% is done so he can falsely proclaim "I'm a centrist!") 2. Cherry-picking incidents of muslim and minority based violent crime to drive a false narrative and create apprehension towards them. He's not just decided to take up a career in news broadcast, he's motivated to drive a narrative.

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[Minus 1 Republican]

I was following Musk up until I quit twitter a few months back. I haven't seen any pattern of him cherry-picking incidents of muslim and minority based violent crime. I did see a pattern of anti-woke / anti-SJW shit posts, and the occasional doge coin shilling.

But, as usual, when leftists don't like what someone says, but can't argue against it (either because they are stupid, or because it is true), they just play the race card.
For example, quote me something racist Trump has said. You won't. #1 bec

Twitter is a Nazi bar now

[rsilvergun]

the blue checks are only being bought by right wing extremists, but their posts display 1st. So the comments under every post on Twitter are a parade of racism, violence and bigotry. Very advertiser friendly...

It's clear the plan is for Twitter to be Fox News for the Internet. Maybe that'll work. I don't think advertising will be enough to keep it going, but billionaires like right wing propaganda (it lets them lobby for tax cuts, regulation cuts and lower pay for employees) so they might fund the entir

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[bushesman]

Ban everyone I don't like!!

Better Internet for India

[Applehu Akbar]

This will make it easier to order from my "Canadian" pharmacy.